:00:22. > :00:31.Ignore the editor, he has been out all afternoon. Anyway, welcome to
:00:32. > :00:39.The One Show with Alex Jones and Chris Evans. We have the on-screen
:00:40. > :00:46.pair who occupy a world of grisly American politics. You may say that,
:00:47. > :01:04.I cannot possibly comment. That is good. I wish things were that
:01:05. > :01:11.fictional. If I was Kevin Spacey I would be getting a lot of stuff
:01:12. > :01:21.done. Please welcome two stars from the hit TV series, Kate Mara and
:01:22. > :01:26.Kevin Spacey. How do you get Barack Obama to be part of your promotion
:01:27. > :01:31.for the House of Cards? I did not even know he watched the show until
:01:32. > :01:35.I saw that clip. In some ways I feel a bit sorry for him because clearly
:01:36. > :01:41.we are getting more done on our fictional show. You have got better
:01:42. > :01:52.writers! We have heard a little rumour... That you are pregnant? No!
:01:53. > :01:58.That you used the image of President Obama to try and make Kevin laugh in
:01:59. > :02:05.a certain scene? Is it true can you explain the back story? We shot the
:02:06. > :02:09.on election day. I had to go topless which is always fun. And so I
:02:10. > :02:15.thought to make Kevin laugh or try and make him laugh because it never
:02:16. > :02:25.works, I would print out some pictures of Obama's face and use
:02:26. > :02:31.those as... Let my telly this, she got both my votes. We will be
:02:32. > :02:39.hearing more about their version of House of Cards later. But first, as
:02:40. > :02:42.Gordon Correra reveals, when it comes to intrigue and treachery, it
:02:43. > :02:49.is often the case that fact can be as dramatic as fiction.
:02:50. > :02:52.He was a war hero and a top ranking MI6 officer, but he has been
:02:53. > :02:58.described as the greatest traitor this country has ever had. This is
:02:59. > :03:03.the extraordinary story of British spy George Blake. George Blake was
:03:04. > :03:08.not an ordinary spy. He was a double agent passing secrets to the soviet
:03:09. > :03:13.union, doing significant damage to Britain during the Cold War. He
:03:14. > :03:22.would zip around London passing confidential files to his handlers.
:03:23. > :03:28.George Blake betrayed hundreds of agents. He was a very damaging man
:03:29. > :03:31.in the context of the Cold War. On the visible front line of the Cold
:03:32. > :03:38.War which is how it was bought in those days. He was exposed by an
:03:39. > :03:43.Eastern European defector as a double agent. He was sentenced to a
:03:44. > :03:48.maximum of 14 years on each of three counts of spying, totalling a record
:03:49. > :03:57.42 year sentence. Blake's British spying career ended here at Wormwood
:03:58. > :04:00.Scrubs prison in London. Within five years he would scale these very
:04:01. > :04:05.walls and make an incredible escape to the east. The escape was
:04:06. > :04:11.orchestrated by a collection of fellow inmates. One of them was
:04:12. > :04:16.antinuclear campaigner Michael Randle. Did you have a sense then
:04:17. > :04:22.that he wanted to escape? I did not but my colleague was in at the same
:04:23. > :04:28.time, they were at the Rhino is together and Pat said to him, did
:04:29. > :04:33.you ever think of escaping and George said, I never think of
:04:34. > :04:39.anything else. Blake established a collection of supportive fellow
:04:40. > :04:44.inmates. After his release, Randle communicated with Blake via a fellow
:04:45. > :04:49.inmate and the plan was hatched to lower him through a tiny window
:04:50. > :04:54.frame. How did he get over this high wall? That was with a rope ladder
:04:55. > :05:00.and the rungs were reinforced with knitting needles. That was the idea
:05:01. > :05:06.of my wife. If it had just been rope, the uprights would have come
:05:07. > :05:12.together. George got to the top of the wall and then jumped down. It is
:05:13. > :05:16.a long way and he actually broke his wrist. While the alarm was raised at
:05:17. > :05:25.Wormwood Scrubs, Blake was on his way to a safe house just around the
:05:26. > :05:32.corner. Once he was over, all hell was let loose. The whole country was
:05:33. > :05:38.scoured. Ports, airfields, Special Branch were sent hither and thither.
:05:39. > :05:43.But Blake remained elusive. He was moved around safe houses in the
:05:44. > :05:52.capital. Then having adapted his van to hide Blake under the seats, he
:05:53. > :05:58.set off -- Michael set off to Berlin. We looked like a normal
:05:59. > :06:03.family, my wife and myself and the children in the back. And George
:06:04. > :06:06.Blake and Denise. The camper van made it through countless
:06:07. > :06:10.checkpoints across Europe and finally got to the board of
:06:11. > :06:16.communist East Berlin. We could see the lights and he said, I will get
:06:17. > :06:22.out here. That was the last use or of him? Blake travelled on to Moscow
:06:23. > :06:29.where he was welcomed as a hero and still lives there today aged 90.
:06:30. > :06:34.Randle was tried at the Old Bailey for aiding and abetting his escape.
:06:35. > :06:39.His defence was he was acting out of necessity believing Blake's 42 year
:06:40. > :06:44.sentence was in human. The jury found him not guilty. No one found
:06:45. > :06:50.it more surprising than Blake himself, seen on BBC news footage
:06:51. > :06:54.congratulating Randle from Moscow. I never thought you would get off
:06:55. > :07:00.altogether and I am absolutely flabbergasted and I cannot find
:07:01. > :07:05.enough words. People might say you helped a traitor, a KGB spy escape
:07:06. > :07:11.from the country? Not really because his usefulness as a spy had expired.
:07:12. > :07:19.The motivation was we felt it was an unjust and inhuman sentence and on
:07:20. > :07:24.that basis, we were prepared to help. George Blake may have been our
:07:25. > :07:28.greatest traitor, but thanks to Michael Randle's van and some
:07:29. > :07:37.knitting needles, he remains a free man today. What a brilliant story.
:07:38. > :07:45.Gordon is here now. George Blake gets 40 years, Randle smuggles him
:07:46. > :07:49.out of prison, then smuggles him across many different countries to
:07:50. > :07:54.East Berlin and does not get anything? It took 25 years to put
:07:55. > :07:58.Michael Randle on trial and by the time they put him on trial the Cold
:07:59. > :08:03.War was over an times had changed. He managed to convince a jury he had
:08:04. > :08:07.done it out of humanitarian reasons and he had not been helping a
:08:08. > :08:11.traitor. Even though the evidence was pretty clear, he got off and he
:08:12. > :08:21.is still unrepentant at helping George Blake get out of prison.
:08:22. > :08:33.E looks quite chipper in that film. They did not realise he was an MI6
:08:34. > :08:37.officer. And he said it was his wife's idea about the knitting
:08:38. > :08:43.needles and the kids had a man underneath them in a van going to
:08:44. > :08:46.Berlin. The spy stories always have a mundane element. George Blake is
:08:47. > :08:53.still alive in Moscow today thanks to Michael Randle. I tried to get in
:08:54. > :08:57.touch with him. One day I had any mail from a KGB spy and he said, I
:08:58. > :09:03.am afraid I do not want to talk to you. Even to this day, he does not
:09:04. > :09:08.want to get into why he was a spy. He is in Moscow. Vladimir Putin, who
:09:09. > :09:15.was an ex-KGB man himself, gave him a medal. Ex-KGB. George Blake is
:09:16. > :09:20.still there in Moscow. And is his wife still knitting? That is the
:09:21. > :09:25.most important thing! Knitting but not helping spies escape from
:09:26. > :09:29.prison. Kate and Kevin, in your best English
:09:30. > :09:39.accents could you read the next bit for us please? Viewers please watch
:09:40. > :09:46.this next film. Alistair McGowan has discovered it might be RIP for RP,
:09:47. > :09:49.that is received pronunciation. Good evening, we are beginning this
:09:50. > :09:56.evening by giving half an hour for what I might call you bigger
:09:57. > :10:00.children. The cut glass accent. The sound of the aristocracy, talking
:10:01. > :10:06.posh to you and me. But the most enduring sound and symbol of Britain
:10:07. > :10:15.is changing. Prince Charles may sound like a member of the Royal
:10:16. > :10:19.family but his son, Prince William, is very different altogether. The
:10:20. > :10:23.monarchy helped create the posh accent. From the earliest 16th
:10:24. > :10:28.century, the wealthy and privileged were encouraged to copy the speech
:10:29. > :10:32.used in the Royal Court. This new copycat accent was spoken in country
:10:33. > :10:37.houses and great estates all over the land. However, it was not
:10:38. > :10:46.regional. It became accent purely of social class. Mrs Veronica Munster
:10:47. > :10:51.was born and raised in Wales, but because it was expected of someone
:10:52. > :10:58.of her social class, she's still developed a cut glass accent. And
:10:59. > :11:04.accent which language experts call received pronunciation or RP for
:11:05. > :11:14.short. I spent 15 years in Germany. Very cold winters. We can still hear
:11:15. > :11:20.some very traditional RP sounds? The very is distinctive of RP. For
:11:21. > :11:23.generations, traditional RP was protected from change because the
:11:24. > :11:27.social elite who spoke it pretty much kept themselves to themselves.
:11:28. > :11:32.When you grew up did you associate with people who spoke like you? I
:11:33. > :11:41.had three older brothers and I spent my entire time in the stables. The
:11:42. > :11:47.post-war period ushered in a new a rear -- era of social mobility,
:11:48. > :11:50.crossing class boundaries. Traditional RP speakers were being
:11:51. > :11:54.exposed to some new and influential sounds. But the posh accent would
:11:55. > :12:00.not give up without a jolly good fight. Despite social change in the
:12:01. > :12:03.50s, broadcasters, politicians and the Royal family made sure posh was
:12:04. > :12:08.still the sound of the British establishment. That is the end of
:12:09. > :12:15.the announcement from Buckingham Palace. And it remained an
:12:16. > :12:25.advantageous accent to have, even into the 1960s when Gigi Salamon was
:12:26. > :12:29.targeted for a job because of the way she spoke. I was in the drama
:12:30. > :12:37.department when the announcer came in and he heard my voice and said,
:12:38. > :12:45.come and do a trial. If I can get in an eight hour day, eight hours, is
:12:46. > :12:52.that what you do? I was hoping you would say ours. I was led up that
:12:53. > :12:59.garden path. But now the posh accent is losing its grip. Broadcasters
:13:00. > :13:03.have embraced regional accents. Having a traditional RP accent is no
:13:04. > :13:08.longer seen as advantageous. Even the Chancellor George Osborne has
:13:09. > :13:13.been accused of downgrading his natural accent by dropping his
:13:14. > :13:20.teas. And the next generation of the upper class do not need to pretend,
:13:21. > :13:25.their accents really have changed. Gigi's daughter, Bettina, has grown
:13:26. > :13:34.up in London inspired by a number of different accents. I heard myself on
:13:35. > :13:40.a voice now the other day and I did not realise I sounded posh. It is
:13:41. > :13:48.interesting that she said posh but she sounds different to how her
:13:49. > :13:54.mother and Mrs Munster speaks. There is using a got. At the back of the
:13:55. > :14:06.throat. What would I be holding at the stumps? Cricket bat. Cricket
:14:07. > :14:10.bat. The posh accent has been biting off allcomers for decades but it
:14:11. > :14:18.seems it is now finally changing. Go on then. What? It is annoying
:14:19. > :14:23.when sometimes Americans come here... Yes, they annoy us. I mean
:14:24. > :14:33.they play British roles and you cannot tell. We cannot tell because
:14:34. > :14:42.we are British. I had to, when I played Richard II, I had to sound
:14:43. > :14:48.like a British king. Can you tell when people put on American accents?
:14:49. > :14:54.Sometimes when it is not done well. I still prayed to the god of Danny
:14:55. > :15:01.Kaye for getting it wrong bit but you have to win Paltrow in Sliding
:15:02. > :15:12.cat macro doors and she was perfect. Well done. I thank you for all of
:15:13. > :15:24.us. House of cards now. -- House Of Cards 's. It used to be and -- a UK
:15:25. > :15:30.programme. Kate, you play very, a young journalist. But you had to get
:15:31. > :15:41.the nod from Kevin to get the role. The I did. This is it! I auditioned
:15:42. > :15:46.with David Fincher, and then he said, we have to wait for Kevin to
:15:47. > :15:52.have a look at your tape. So I waited a really long time, and then
:15:53. > :15:58.I heard that you watched the tape and said, she seems really cold and
:15:59. > :16:05.driven. In a negative way! But that's what you want it! This is a
:16:06. > :16:11.great example of why you should never believe anything anyone tells
:16:12. > :16:17.you. How close did Kate come to not getting the role? Not at all. First
:16:18. > :16:21.of all, she is remarkable in the role, and we have had a really,
:16:22. > :16:26.really great time working together. But also, there's so much about the
:16:27. > :16:31.story as it evolves, it's not about dialogue and what people say, but
:16:32. > :16:39.about behaviour. The way we have worked together has been such a
:16:40. > :16:44.pleasure. She's very intriguing. In the first series, Kate, you play
:16:45. > :16:49.almost a super fan to Kevin's character. Stalker, another, then
:16:50. > :16:55.would-be nemesis. What do you have in store for his character in the
:16:56. > :17:01.second series? You bring champagne and some heels. You bring the most
:17:02. > :17:08.expensive bottle of champagne, and you'll have to watch to see the
:17:09. > :17:12.rest. You can see the second series starting on Friday, and you can see
:17:13. > :17:19.how the dynamic between you has changed a bit. I am just asking
:17:20. > :17:26.questions. You are connecting dots that don't exist. Should I just act
:17:27. > :17:31.as if I don't know anything? Yes, I got Peter out, but beyond that,
:17:32. > :17:37.there's nothing to know. Trust me or not, I'm about to be confirmed as
:17:38. > :17:41.the Vice President, and our relationship extends to the oval
:17:42. > :17:52.office now. Don't step out of the sunlight for no reason. Now that is
:17:53. > :17:57.cold and driven! You are the same! For people who don't know about
:17:58. > :18:01.Netflix, tell them what it is and how it works, and also why this
:18:02. > :18:06.series is so important for the future of how we watch TV
:18:07. > :18:12.entertainment. Will Netflix is a streaming service. You can watch all
:18:13. > :18:16.the movies and television series they are able to stream and show.
:18:17. > :18:21.This is one of the reasons that Breaking Bad became such a big hit.
:18:22. > :18:27.More people saw it on Netflix than on its original network. There's
:18:28. > :18:30.great documentaries on it, incredible stuff, and you can watch
:18:31. > :18:37.it as many times as you want. You can watch the season premiere, and
:18:38. > :18:44.also every episode that night if you wanted, which some of us do. We are
:18:45. > :18:49.the first television show in history that has released its entire first
:18:50. > :18:55.season in one go. That shows that in the same way as people are in love
:18:56. > :19:00.with box sets, and they used to stay home and watched the whole season
:19:01. > :19:04.over the weekend, it is showing that we have learnt the lesson that the
:19:05. > :19:09.music industry didn't learn - give people what they want, when they
:19:10. > :19:14.want it, and they probably will not steal it. It also gives the audience
:19:15. > :19:18.control of when they watch their entertainment. You can pick it up
:19:19. > :19:26.when you want, and put it down when you one. It's definitely a trend
:19:27. > :19:33.that has caught on. Why did you choose to do House Of Cards, because
:19:34. > :19:39.as Chris said, this was massively pioneering, a big series for
:19:40. > :19:45.Netflix. Why choose one that was made by the BBC so many years ago? I
:19:46. > :19:52.was in something that David Fincher directed, and we were talking about
:19:53. > :19:54.working together again. He then heard that the rights to the
:19:55. > :19:59.original House Of Cards were available. I had never heard of it.
:20:00. > :20:03.But then we looked at it and we thought it would translate to the
:20:04. > :20:09.US. From the beginning, I thought it was an incredible premise, it was
:20:10. > :20:15.very successful here in the UK, and much beloved. For me, it was a
:20:16. > :20:19.fantastic role, and it was the opportunity to do something that was
:20:20. > :20:24.revolutionary, changing the paradigms of the show, in which
:20:25. > :20:30.Netflix did an incredible risk. 26 shows, right off the bat. And we
:20:31. > :20:35.didn't have to do a pilot. Often, networks insist you do a pilot. So
:20:36. > :20:40.we had to establish all of the characters and come up with
:20:41. > :20:46.cliffhangers. We wanted to start the story when we wanted, and we have
:20:47. > :20:52.just picked up the third season. Was working with Kevin as you imagined,
:20:53. > :21:01.Kate? He's a lot less serious than I imagined. And he's a lot more
:21:02. > :21:04.immature. Sorry to call you out! The second series of House Of Cards is
:21:05. > :21:10.available on Netflix from next Friday, and if you haven't seen the
:21:11. > :21:13.first, it's there for you. After all the fuss about sugar being bad for
:21:14. > :21:22.us, new research is now saying that low-fat yoghurt can help counter
:21:23. > :21:29.Type 2 diabetes. Wrote a discovery that isn't exactly bad news for an
:21:30. > :21:34.already booming business. The market is worth ?1.4 billion every year.
:21:35. > :21:39.You'll get is an ancient food around the world, but until 50 years ago,
:21:40. > :21:46.many people in Britain hadn't even heard of it. Look at it today.
:21:47. > :21:52.Low-fat, no fact, Greek, Swiss, fruity, bio, for drinking or
:21:53. > :21:57.pouring. Here is the main ingredient being pumped into a family run dairy
:21:58. > :22:04.in the Chilterns. You can make it at home, but on a smaller scale. You
:22:05. > :22:08.ferment the milk, add a culture of bacteria that gets the process
:22:09. > :22:15.going, and some dried milk powder, and leave it overnight. Simple. But
:22:16. > :22:19.it took us a long time to find out. Before the Second World War, you
:22:20. > :22:24.couldn't really get yoghurt in Britain. There was a chap who run a
:22:25. > :22:29.dairy in north London, and he won a competition during the war to rescue
:22:30. > :22:33.milk from bombed out trains. He discovered the milk had started to
:22:34. > :22:37.go off, and he knew enough to realise this was the start of
:22:38. > :22:42.yoghurt. The clever man started to market it as this new wonder
:22:43. > :22:49.ingredient, and before long, shops were taking yoghurt. It was the 60s
:22:50. > :22:53.before Britain got a taste for it, and that was because it was
:22:54. > :23:00.deliberately made sweeter and fruitier. It was given a huge
:23:01. > :23:05.publicity drive. It has become what the food industry called a contrived
:23:06. > :23:09.product. In other words, added ingredients made it more sellable,
:23:10. > :23:15.and producers could increase the price. Food companies realise that
:23:16. > :23:20.the Holy Grail was to add value to a product. You can put sugar in it,
:23:21. > :23:25.fruit in it, package and market it in inventive ways, and then charge a
:23:26. > :23:31.real premium. In the last ten years, sales of yoghurt and yoghurt style
:23:32. > :23:35.products have gone up 30%. This company makes what they have to call
:23:36. > :23:40.Greek style yoghurt. It's made in the UK so cannot be called Greek.
:23:41. > :23:47.The irony is, the people who make it our Greek secrets. -- Greek
:23:48. > :23:55.Cypriots. How long to shift? 64,000 pots of yoghurt? Eight hours. It
:23:56. > :24:01.isn't just sugar and fruit. Some brand leaders have jumped on the
:24:02. > :24:05.health food bandwagon. They have been adding bacteria to their
:24:06. > :24:14.yoghurt and saying that the so-called probiotics are good. You
:24:15. > :24:18.need to take all these claims with some scepticism, because the
:24:19. > :24:21.European Food Safety Authority, in charge of all food labelling in
:24:22. > :24:27.Britain, have checked out all of these claims, and hardly any have
:24:28. > :24:31.stood up to proper scrutiny. Most yoghurt manufacturers are indeed not
:24:32. > :24:37.allowed to advertise their products and claim that they do you tonnes of
:24:38. > :24:41.good. In 50 years, yoghurt has gone from hippy health food to a family
:24:42. > :24:49.staple in a business worth millions of pounds the year. But it is also a
:24:50. > :24:52.great cooking ingredient! That was a yoghurt kind of thing. We
:24:53. > :24:58.have been going Welsh while that film was on! We were discussing
:24:59. > :25:02.whether you could have a Welsh cake with yoghurt. Because Kate was
:25:03. > :25:11.saying that she likes Welsh cakes. But I don't like yoghurt. And then
:25:12. > :25:23.my new friend Kevin said that you've actually got Welsh relatives. Spacey
:25:24. > :25:28.is a Welsh name, but without the E. And I am told there is actually a
:25:29. > :25:34.graveyard - where I am not going to end up, by the way! The Old Vic went
:25:35. > :25:39.very well for you. Thank you so much for what you have done for it over
:25:40. > :25:44.the last eight years. We know what you have given the Old Vic. What has
:25:45. > :25:49.it given new? It's been the best decision I've ever made. To be able
:25:50. > :25:55.to work on such an extraordinary stage, with the greatest luminaries
:25:56. > :26:00.of the stage, really creating a company with a remarkable staff... I
:26:01. > :26:05.have to say that my thanks really go out to the British public. They came
:26:06. > :26:10.early, they came often, they told their friends, and they have really
:26:11. > :26:14.helped us make the Old Vic a destination for theatre. In the next
:26:15. > :26:17.18 months we have to raise a lot of money from the endowment and also
:26:18. > :26:23.renovate the building from top to bottom. It has never been
:26:24. > :26:28.renovated. The roof still leaks from World War Two. It is a historic
:26:29. > :26:33.building. Some incredible institutions came out of the Old
:26:34. > :26:38.Vic, such as the National Symphony and the National Opera. It holds
:26:39. > :26:44.quite a special place in the hearts of the British public. Kevin, you
:26:45. > :26:48.don't want to run the BBC, do you, by any chance? Will I have to sign
:26:49. > :27:03.that form that says no naughty words? We are going to go outside
:27:04. > :27:09.now. Let's go. Thank you! We have some keen people outside. They are
:27:10. > :27:13.performing in Fame - The Musical, and they are going to showcase some
:27:14. > :27:19.songs for us. We hear that you do some singing on the side! When I was
:27:20. > :27:25.younger, I was in musical theatre nerd, so I am excited about this.
:27:26. > :27:29.Thank you to Kevin and Kate, and the new series of House Of Cards is
:27:30. > :27:34.available on Netflix from next Friday. We leave you from -- we
:27:35. > :27:37.leave you with the kids from Fame - The Musical. On tour from February
:27:38. > :27:49.the 20th. Come on!