:00:15. > :00:17.Hello and welcome to The One Show with Matt Baker...
:00:18. > :00:22.Tonight's show is full of people not afraid to ask the tough questions.
:00:23. > :00:24.For instance, here's what Christine Walkden
:00:25. > :00:41.Now, you have had... Lots of affairs and three marriages. Yes. What have
:00:42. > :00:44.you learned from that? That's a good question! She does not pull any
:00:45. > :00:47.punches, Christine! And our guests tonight are a man
:00:48. > :00:50.who puts tough questions to politicians every
:00:51. > :00:51.week on Question Time. And a woman who gets tough
:00:52. > :00:54.with countryside criminals as TV Please welcome
:00:55. > :00:57.David Dimbleby and Ashley Jensen! The nation woke up to some
:00:58. > :01:10.surprising news this morning. The Queen is a massive
:01:11. > :01:12.George Formby fan. She's word-perfect on all his songs
:01:13. > :01:22.apparently, and this # I'm leaning on the lamp post at
:01:23. > :01:25.the corner of the street # In case a certain little lady
:01:26. > :01:32.comes by # O me, oh my. #
:01:33. > :01:36.There was a list of all her favourites. Are there any songs that
:01:37. > :01:41.you two are WordPerfect in that would surprise your friends and
:01:42. > :01:48.family? You first. Not really but I used to have a ukelele. That's a bit
:01:49. > :01:52.of a tangent and we like it. And I played the ukelele onto all, the
:01:53. > :01:55.first job I did, a Christmas show that did not mention Christmas so
:01:56. > :01:59.they could stretch it out until March. It was a very long job and I
:02:00. > :02:02.thought I fancied learning the ukelele because it was little and it
:02:03. > :02:06.was the one that George Formby played, not the one like a child's
:02:07. > :02:12.guitar because they are all the rage now and apparently it is quite hip
:02:13. > :02:21.now, like clogs. Icing bits of Mozart opera but I always forget the
:02:22. > :02:24.lines halfway through and then I hum songs by Andrew Trevor that my
:02:25. > :02:27.daughter has some. I won't say what they are called but they are great.
:02:28. > :02:31.This morning I found myself whistling, it was very sunny, and
:02:32. > :02:34.I've found myself whistling Summertime and my son was doing it
:02:35. > :02:37.with me. He came downstairs whistling and I picked it up and he
:02:38. > :02:42.took no notice and slammed the door and went on doing his homework. We
:02:43. > :02:44.are going to move on from that thought, now.
:02:45. > :02:47.Now if you lose money to a fraudster, should the banks
:02:48. > :02:49.have to refund it if they think you haven't protected
:02:50. > :03:00.Some senior police officers think they should not. They think you
:03:01. > :03:06.should have taken steps to protect yourself properly. So where do we
:03:07. > :03:08.draw the line between buying a fraudster and protecting ourselves
:03:09. > :03:09.Buster Moxey what you think after hearing the story of a couple who
:03:10. > :03:18.lost everything due to one text. Bees days, it is perfectly normal to
:03:19. > :03:22.receive text messages from banks updating our accounts or checking
:03:23. > :03:25.unusual transactions. But the texts we get from banks alerting us to
:03:26. > :03:30.potential fraud are now themselves being hijacked by scammers,
:03:31. > :03:34.determine to relieve us of our cash. As Bedfordshire couple David and
:03:35. > :03:39.Jackie Groves found out. Earlier this year, they received a text that
:03:40. > :03:43.appeared to be from their bank. It says there has been some unusual
:03:44. > :03:48.activity on your online banking. If this was not you, please call the
:03:49. > :03:53.fraud team. It has come from RBS and you have no reason to doubt it is
:03:54. > :03:58.not genuine. Not at all, I dialled the number and got through to the
:03:59. > :04:03.person. Over several calls, Jackie was convinced she was talking to a
:04:04. > :04:05.Royal Bank of Scotland fraud investigator. He warned her that
:04:06. > :04:12.their mortgage account was being targeted by criminals who were bank
:04:13. > :04:18.employees. We had some money in the account but we had a facility for a
:04:19. > :04:27.minus number, a big minus number, 130 5000. That amount represented
:04:28. > :04:30.their life savings of nearly ?18,000, and a ?117,000 of potential
:04:31. > :04:35.borrowing allowed against their mortgage. The bogus investigators
:04:36. > :04:40.said it all needed to be transferred to a secure account to protect it
:04:41. > :04:46.while the internal investigation continued. At once Jackie made the
:04:47. > :04:52.transfer, the beef proudly boasted of his success. -- the thief. He
:04:53. > :04:57.said, "I've got all of your money. Your wife has just hate me over
:04:58. > :05:01.130,000. There's no way you're going to get it back, it's gone, I've got
:05:02. > :05:06.it out of the country, you will never see it again". Then he started
:05:07. > :05:10.laughing hysterically down the phone like a madman. Every time you think
:05:11. > :05:19.about it, it is shocking. I'm responsible for having no...
:05:20. > :05:21.Retirement, future, effectively. They have gone from having paid off
:05:22. > :05:31.their mortgage with money in the bank to being saddled with debt of
:05:32. > :05:34.?117,000. And no savings. The Coble say that if it had not been for that
:05:35. > :05:39.first text message, they would never have fallen for the scam. Financial
:05:40. > :05:46.fraud action UK was set up by the banks and card payment industry will
:05:47. > :05:50.stop Tony Blake is a senior fraud prevention officer and he says
:05:51. > :05:53.so-called text spoofing is on the right, with criminals using simple
:05:54. > :05:59.devices like this to send text messages that replicate genuine bank
:06:00. > :06:03.messages. This device will allow me to send a text and completely mask
:06:04. > :06:07.where it has come from. It will attach itself to a thread of other
:06:08. > :06:13.text messages that the person has received from the banks so it looks
:06:14. > :06:17.like it is coming from a bank. Using his spoofing kit, Tony can send me
:06:18. > :06:22.the exact same message the Groves received. This is Tony's text from
:06:23. > :06:27.his phone but it looks as though it has come from RBS so I've got to
:06:28. > :06:34.call the number. And that official looking number won't put you through
:06:35. > :06:38.to your bank. Hello? That is very, very worrying. You have just sent me
:06:39. > :06:42.a text purporting to be from RBS and now I've called you back and I could
:06:43. > :06:47.be completely in your hands. It is precisely what happened to Jackie
:06:48. > :06:52.and David. RBS has since paid them nearly ?34,000 as a goodwill
:06:53. > :06:56.gesture. But it insists the Groves are liable for the remaining ?83,000
:06:57. > :07:02.debt theft on their mortgage account after that fateful transfer. They
:07:03. > :07:08.were not interested in the fact that we had been robbed. They just wanted
:07:09. > :07:11.to make it crystal clear that it was our responsibility to pay them their
:07:12. > :07:17.money back which I thought was a bit heartless. So how can we be certain
:07:18. > :07:22.that text messages and even phone calls from our bank are genuine?
:07:23. > :07:27.Chief Executive of the British bankers Association, Anthony Brown
:07:28. > :07:29.has clearer advice. A bank would never ask you to transfer money out
:07:30. > :07:33.of your account into another account. They would never do that.
:07:34. > :07:38.If someone is asking you to do that, don't do it, they are conmen.
:07:39. > :07:44.Meanwhile, Jackie and David face the prospect of paying for their home
:07:45. > :07:47.all over again. I don't think I'm a stupid person. As far as I was
:07:48. > :07:51.concerned, I was securing our money and now we are in that position
:07:52. > :07:55.where, in our working lifetime, we would be paying it off. Their
:07:56. > :08:01.retirement plans in ruins because of a single text message.
:08:02. > :08:07.Chris is the national coordinator for economic crime. Welcome to the
:08:08. > :08:11.show. You can't help, your heart breaks for them, this is such an
:08:12. > :08:14.unfortunate situation. You know, my parents would react straightaway if
:08:15. > :08:19.they saw a text like that, they would panic and phoned the number. I
:08:20. > :08:22.do react to any of them which is probably the wrong way. What do
:08:23. > :08:27.people do if they get these text messages? Is there anything in it to
:08:28. > :08:32.give a clue as to the fact it is a fraud and you should not be
:08:33. > :08:36.responding to it? That story is a really sad tale, isn't it and I see
:08:37. > :08:39.too many of those, sadly. They have been tricked to believe that some
:08:40. > :08:43.thing they have been sent on a text is real and it is not. Someone else
:08:44. > :08:46.is sending an e-mail purporting to be from the bank and they believed
:08:47. > :08:49.it and why wouldn't you? It's a normal human reaction to believe
:08:50. > :08:51.things easy and they have been caught in the trap of the fraudster
:08:52. > :08:56.stealing their money. It's an absolute tragedy. It is quite
:08:57. > :09:00.obvious you are losing the battle against these nasty people who are
:09:01. > :09:06.taking people's naivete for granted. Is it in the last 12 months, 3
:09:07. > :09:11.million cases and there were 9000 convictions? There were 5.2 million
:09:12. > :09:17.cases believed to be fraud from the crime survey of England and Wales
:09:18. > :09:19.and two point 2 million of cybercrime and 750,000 reported by
:09:20. > :09:25.businesses. Convictions is not the only measure of success. Last year,
:09:26. > :09:28.we took down nearly 180,000 websites, e-mails and phone numbers
:09:29. > :09:32.to prevent fraud as it was happening. If 50% of the fraudsters,
:09:33. > :09:37.and lots of the frauds we see emanate from outside the UK, we
:09:38. > :09:41.can't get all of them. How can't you trace the money when it has left the
:09:42. > :09:44.bank account? It has to leave some kind of trial. It will and often it
:09:45. > :09:49.goes to another country through five or six different bank accounts, what
:09:50. > :09:52.we call new accounts, other people's accounts being used by criminal
:09:53. > :10:01.fraudsters who cash out in another country and the money is gone but we
:10:02. > :10:04.have a lot of success in arresting fraudsters and taking their money
:10:05. > :10:07.and putting them in prison. I would not say we are losing the battle but
:10:08. > :10:09.it is a difficult battle ground. Now you are saying customers need to
:10:10. > :10:11.shoulder the blame themselves and protect their recounts but lots of
:10:12. > :10:14.people are not proficient with Internet banking. It is difficult if
:10:15. > :10:19.you don't know what you are doing and some people don't have tablets,
:10:20. > :10:24.iPads or laptops. What happens then? At what point is it your job to
:10:25. > :10:28.protect these people? First of all, I'm not saying anyone should
:10:29. > :10:31.shoulder the blame. Whether or not someone gets their money back from
:10:32. > :10:35.the bank is between them and because it is not my role as the police. We
:10:36. > :10:39.have to investigate the crime and where possible, get hands on the
:10:40. > :10:43.criminal, take money off them or remove their assets. It is difficult
:10:44. > :10:48.because this kind of platform that is being created, banks are off the
:10:49. > :10:52.high Street and people... It's going to get worse. They have to go online
:10:53. > :10:56.and it is a world, if you can't catch these people it's a dangerous
:10:57. > :11:01.game, do you just tell the banks not to communicate by text? I don't
:11:02. > :11:04.think you do but looking at the physical world, like burglary and
:11:05. > :11:08.car theft, we do things to protect ourselves, not our cars and doors
:11:09. > :11:11.and check they are safe. You need to transpose the physical world to the
:11:12. > :11:21.virtual. Don't believe everything you see online and don't believe
:11:22. > :11:24.everything you see in a text. If you get a text like that from a bank,
:11:25. > :11:27.don't phone that number, go to the bank's online fraud number or from
:11:28. > :11:29.the bank statement and then phoned them back from a different number so
:11:30. > :11:32.you break the cycle. Tee things will happen, either the bank will say you
:11:33. > :11:36.ask victims of a suspected fraud and that is where you can do with it or
:11:37. > :11:42.they will say they don't know and that is when you can report it to
:11:43. > :11:47.us, Action Fraud, which can help you. How safe are you when you get
:11:48. > :11:51.online to your own bank using their code, your password? From what you
:11:52. > :11:57.say, even that can be hijacked. You move money, you pay the builder Au
:11:58. > :12:02.grocery bill or something online. -- or a grocery bill. That comes down
:12:03. > :12:08.to the security of the individual bank. It does. I hate all those
:12:09. > :12:14.numbers! Matt keeps it under the mattress! I feel too slow. It is
:12:15. > :12:20.with finished. Your time has expired! And you can't go to the
:12:21. > :12:23.bank because there are any. That's not my fault! Thank you.
:12:24. > :12:25.Now David, June's a busy month for you,
:12:26. > :12:28.but before we talk about that, let's go back 22 years,
:12:29. > :12:30.to a spoof news show which ran a trail for a far-fetched
:12:31. > :12:47.And at ten past ten, it is Question Time live from Wembley Stadium.
:12:48. > :12:52.Let's hear from the questioner, sorry... That's Question Time
:12:53. > :12:56.tonight at ten past ten, on the panel, Virginia Bottomley, Tony
:12:57. > :13:03.Banks, Sir William we smoke and Nik Kershaw. -- William Regal mock.
:13:04. > :13:10.Back in 1994, knowable there would be a TV debate at Wembley but it is
:13:11. > :13:15.happening in 2016. It is. What was your reaction when you first had the
:13:16. > :13:20.idea? I thought it was Wembley Stadium which is bigger than Wembley
:13:21. > :13:25.Arena! It is still massive. 6000 but the best picture I had, from the
:13:26. > :13:28.person who told me it was Wembley that I had to come in a football
:13:29. > :13:35.strip. Then I thought I would come on and do a com "Hallo, Wembley!"
:13:36. > :13:44.LAUGHTER You should definitely do that. We
:13:45. > :13:49.have 6000 people coming, half and half, Brexit and Remain. I think it
:13:50. > :13:57.will be like, not like a normal Question Time, I can't say, "You in
:13:58. > :14:02.row 175, 15 in, no, not you, the one with the glasses," it is much more
:14:03. > :14:05.like going to one of the great Victorian debates, Gladstone or
:14:06. > :14:10.Lloyd George and they spoke to thousands and TV just happens to be
:14:11. > :14:15.there. That is how I'm seeing it. It will be quite different. How can you
:14:16. > :14:19.keep order? If one side starts heckling the other it's going to be
:14:20. > :14:24.incredible in noisy. How would you keep order? I don't know. You say,
:14:25. > :14:31."Come on, you're not doing yourself any good by doing that". We have got
:14:32. > :14:38.the Prime Minister by himself, Michael Gove by himself on Question
:14:39. > :14:42.Time. Yes, the specials. And then Eddie Izzard and Nigel Farage on
:14:43. > :14:48.Thursday, the Day after tomorrow. It is a raft of staff at Wembley, it is
:14:49. > :14:52.very exciting. Are you looking forward to it? I really am.
:14:53. > :14:57.Once-in-a-lifetime. I'm going to sing... LAUGHTER
:14:58. > :15:01.It is very interesting, the way that debate has evolved through the
:15:02. > :15:05.years, certainly through your career as well, I do think back in 1975, we
:15:06. > :15:13.have some wonderful footage of the last referendum... A lovely colour
:15:14. > :15:20.palette you have got on as well, David. It is the bonnet, you know, I
:15:21. > :15:23.have come from the hairdresser. You have seen so many years, how has it
:15:24. > :15:35.changed for you? That was an interesting debate, that
:15:36. > :15:40.was Tony Benn and Roy Jenkins, I virtually did not speak, they were
:15:41. > :15:44.so skilled and they took points one after the other, and at 1.I
:15:45. > :15:50.interrupted and Tony Benn said this was going very well until you
:15:51. > :15:53.interrupted. The real change is, like it is all the time from
:15:54. > :15:58.Question Time, we give much more room the voter to meet the
:15:59. > :16:05.politician, it has become less elitist. It is not me questioning
:16:06. > :16:11.the politician, it is the audience of 150 and the politicians are quite
:16:12. > :16:15.nervous of that. It is much easier, however tough an interviewer, it is
:16:16. > :16:21.much easier to deal with one person than 150 people and you never know
:16:22. > :16:26.what is coming. It is opening up of political debate. That has happened
:16:27. > :16:31.and I find it very exciting. It is a good thing. It is, you walk around
:16:32. > :16:36.on the straight, and people say, thanks for that programme, they
:16:37. > :16:43.watch it every week, and I find that very exhilarating. We were talking
:16:44. > :16:45.downstairs, people feel a bit all at sea with the referendum and they
:16:46. > :16:50.don't know the facts and which way to go. How important is a television
:16:51. > :16:53.debate like this? All the issues will come up and maybe this will
:16:54. > :16:57.help people gain a better understanding. It is of utmost
:16:58. > :17:03.importance, the campaign has been very much out in the open and people
:17:04. > :17:07.are having their opinion and people are shouting back their opinion, it
:17:08. > :17:12.is very open and I think that is a good way for it to go. There are
:17:13. > :17:16.people I'm speaking to who are saying, I don't know what I'm doing,
:17:17. > :17:23.and they are a bit nervous. I have that sort of feeling. You have got
:17:24. > :17:25.to divided into three, people who are persuaded by the economic
:17:26. > :17:31.argument, people who are most concerned about immigration, and in
:17:32. > :17:33.the middle of a chunk of people who really aren't listening to the
:17:34. > :17:38.arguments and don't know which way they are going to go and I suspect
:17:39. > :17:42.many of those people will vote by a kind of instinct about whether they
:17:43. > :17:48.think Britain should be in Europe or on its own, so you have declared
:17:49. > :17:54.interests on both sides. I meet people with firm views taken on what
:17:55. > :17:57.they are going to do. It is getting people talking, they are having an
:17:58. > :18:05.opinion. Going back to Question Time with Michael Gove and David Cameron,
:18:06. > :18:10.you will get more out of it, with the public asking questions. I think
:18:11. > :18:17.that is probably true. We always want to have... We would like to
:18:18. > :18:25.have David Cameron and Michael Gove, two clever men, arguing. But they
:18:26. > :18:31.won't do it. They can't be seen to be divided. Not publicly, anyway, of
:18:32. > :18:40.course they are divided on the issue. Yeah, Tony Blair was good,
:18:41. > :18:43.when he was Prime Minister, used to come once a year to Question Time
:18:44. > :18:49.and he would take anything that came at him. Including once a ham
:18:50. > :18:51.sandwich thrown at him. Going back to what David was saying, the
:18:52. > :18:53.Question Time special. David chairs Question Time Specials
:18:54. > :18:55.on June 15th and 19th, plus The Great Debate on June 21st,
:18:56. > :18:59.all on BBC 1. Remember you can still register
:19:00. > :19:15.to vote until 11.59 tonight. And the results programme, as well.
:19:16. > :19:20.We start at five to ten and then after 11 we get the first results
:19:21. > :19:22.and then maybe by 3- for we know. What a night that is going to be.
:19:23. > :19:28.The most exciting in a long time. It's not just David who can ask
:19:29. > :19:30.the tough questions. You may think that Christine Walkden
:19:31. > :19:33.is a happy go lucky gardener, but she's just as happy digging
:19:34. > :19:45.deep in interviews - It is not everyday you get invited
:19:46. > :19:51.for afternoon tea with Havers. We are in Norfolk, where Nigel used to
:19:52. > :19:56.say on his childhood holidays in the 1950s. What are your memories? We
:19:57. > :20:03.did not have anything like this in 1957. The food was terrible. The
:20:04. > :20:10.starter was tomato soup or grilled grapefruit. Nigel comes from posh
:20:11. > :20:14.stock, his grandfather was a High Court judge, and his father Michael
:20:15. > :20:21.was the QC who prosecuted the Yorkshire Ripper. I went to court
:20:22. > :20:27.that day and there was my father, he stood up, he did not speak for about
:20:28. > :20:33.a minute, I thought, is everything all right? He said, how do you spell
:20:34. > :20:39.your name? Peter Sutcliffe spelt his name. My father said he had several
:20:40. > :20:45.different spellings. He said, did you enjoy killing these women?
:20:46. > :20:52.Terrifying. I'm beginning to see where Nigel gets his acting skills
:20:53. > :20:58.and sense of timing. I said, that was great, although you were
:20:59. > :21:02.slightly Hani, dad. He loved that. On a summers day you will find
:21:03. > :21:13.hundreds of kids are long blatantly key on Bihar and for local --
:21:14. > :21:18.Blakeney on the hunt for crabs. I used to come here all the time with
:21:19. > :21:21.my brother, we were inseparable. Nigel broke with family tradition
:21:22. > :21:27.and shows a school for the performing arts rather than eaten.
:21:28. > :21:30.It was all to do with my mum and dad taking me to the theatre when I was
:21:31. > :21:37.very young, I thought, this is amazing. Once I said that, they
:21:38. > :21:43.said, really? They were supportive? Yes, amazingly supportive. Have you
:21:44. > :21:50.caught anything? No, you haven't either. I think we should go and
:21:51. > :22:02.have a pint. Oh! You have got one! Well done. With victory ringing in
:22:03. > :22:05.my is, it was time to get warm. Reintroduce Nigel with a Jaguar just
:22:06. > :22:10.like his dad had when they used to come on holiday. It is a special
:22:11. > :22:16.smell that I remember, carbon monoxide, fuel. And now I have got
:22:17. > :22:21.him trapped, I can get down to the nitty-gritty. You are known as a
:22:22. > :22:27.charmer and you have had a remarkable charms lie. You are
:22:28. > :22:31.right. I can't believe it has all been like that, what is the other
:22:32. > :22:36.side of you? I never dwell on tragedy, no. You are not telling me
:22:37. > :22:44.you have sailed right through life? No, of course. There have been
:22:45. > :22:49.deaths in the family and all sorts of things that go wrong. How would
:22:50. > :22:57.you deal with that? I only ever think that the glass is half full.
:22:58. > :23:02.You are a glass half full man? I certainly am. You have had many
:23:03. > :23:09.affairs and three marriages, what have you learned from that? That is
:23:10. > :23:18.a good question. Do you have regrets? Or things in the past. No,
:23:19. > :23:23.I don't, really. Europe happy man? I'm having an affair at the moment
:23:24. > :23:29.with my wife, how about that? Sound is pretty good to me. Just as Nigel
:23:30. > :23:33.was winning the Jaguar to break down, she did, and I was just
:23:34. > :23:44.getting to the tough questions -- willing. We rose like Lord Lindy in
:23:45. > :23:48.chariots of Fire, Nigel has made a long and successful career by
:23:49. > :23:52.playing the English upper-class smoothie -- with roles like Lord
:23:53. > :23:57.Lindley in chariots of Fire. Would you have preferred to have not had
:23:58. > :24:01.that stereotypical role? No, I don't mind, I don't mind any label at all,
:24:02. > :24:10.as long as I'm working. The charm has won me over, sign me up for the
:24:11. > :24:13.Nigel Havers Fanclub. STUDIO: I can't believe that. What about the
:24:14. > :24:24.line of questioning wretched Mark very good. -- questioning? He seemed
:24:25. > :24:32.a bit uncomfortable. It was like, what first attracted you to the
:24:33. > :24:36.millionaire... Remember that? Yes. Someone trying to get some questions
:24:37. > :24:41.is you, in your brand-new series, this is Agatha Raisin. She is a PR
:24:42. > :24:50.Guru mixed in with an amateur sleuth, how does this meld? She
:24:51. > :24:53.throws the towel into go to the countryside to live in The Cotswolds
:24:54. > :25:01.and she ingratiated herself within the countryside to try and fit in
:25:02. > :25:07.and in the pilot she made a quiche... LAUGHTER
:25:08. > :25:11.Actually, she bought one, to enter a competition, basically she cheated,
:25:12. > :25:17.and she did not win and then someone dies and she is accused of murder.
:25:18. > :25:22.She then gets accused of murdering and she has to prove her innocence,
:25:23. > :25:26.and then we have eight episodes of her becoming an amateur sleuth.
:25:27. > :25:32.Trying to solve murders which happen all the time in these tiny villages
:25:33. > :25:40.in The Cotswolds. It is one of them. Incredibly dangerous places to live.
:25:41. > :25:52.This is you, breaking down tonight's case in a Wendy house.
:25:53. > :26:03.This is cosy. We have got suspects with real motives. Jess made a pass
:26:04. > :26:08.at Kirsty. Really? Yes, this place is a hotbed of seething sexuality,
:26:09. > :26:13.clearly I'm living in the wrong village. Anyway, I despise this
:26:14. > :26:19.would have pleased any of the partners. -- I don't think this
:26:20. > :26:26.would have pleased any of the partners. The writer is on set? MC
:26:27. > :26:30.Beaton, one of the most borrowed authors from British libraries,
:26:31. > :26:36.she's a real character, a firecracker, and there is more than
:26:37. > :26:41.a little of Agatha in her. She would come to the read-through 's and she
:26:42. > :26:44.would come on set and we got the seal of approval from her, she was
:26:45. > :26:50.really pleased with how it has turned out. We have seen you in
:26:51. > :26:55.Extras we have spoken about Ugly Betty. But this is the first time
:26:56. > :27:02.you have taken the lead in a drama. Yes. With that came a certain sense
:27:03. > :27:08.of responsibility, you felt? Towards the rest of the cast. Maybe because
:27:09. > :27:13.I'm a bit older and I'm someone's mum but I felt a bit matriarchal. I
:27:14. > :27:18.wanted to make sure everyone was having a good time. I've done jobs
:27:19. > :27:21.at the beginning of my career where I would come on for a day and that
:27:22. > :27:25.is nerve wracking, to do a scene with the main character and you
:27:26. > :27:29.don't know if to look them in the icon and you don't know how to be
:27:30. > :27:36.and where to sit at lunchtime -- to look them in the eye. We made sure
:27:37. > :27:42.it was a very nice atmosphere on set and there were no egos. Sometimes
:27:43. > :27:46.the sound guy would say, when you said that line, it was a bit better
:27:47. > :27:53.when you did it a different way. How many weeks shooting? About five
:27:54. > :27:59.months, eight episodes, each is a self-contained story, with a thread
:28:00. > :28:03.running through all her on of love for Captain James Lacey, who was in
:28:04. > :28:10.the Wendy house with her. It seems to be going very well in the Wendy
:28:11. > :28:19.house. It starts tonight? Yes, sky one. The same time that ITV have got
:28:20. > :28:28.the Prime Minister and Nigel Farage so I won't be able to watch it. You
:28:29. > :28:31.can record it. We started on a musical note, we're going to finish
:28:32. > :28:35.on a musical note. We are not them to ask you to dance, but after this,
:28:36. > :28:44.you will wonder why -- we are not going to ask you to dance. It looks
:28:45. > :28:54.like you are having a little dance and then it goes up a gear,
:28:55. > :29:01.unbelievable. LAUGHTER The many sides of David Dimbleby.
:29:02. > :29:06.That was on Facebook. We do these live things on Facebook, remember
:29:07. > :29:13.the policemen had been dancing, I saw that on the news, and I like
:29:14. > :29:19.that song, and I love dancing. It is practised for Wembley.
:29:20. > :29:22.Agatha Raisin begins tonight at 9pm on Sky One.
:29:23. > :29:25.And David chairs Question Time Specials on June 15th and 19th,
:29:26. > :29:28.plus The Great Debate on June 21st, all on BBC One.
:29:29. > :29:31.Tomorrow Cameron from Modern Family, Eric Stonestreet, will be here,