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:00:19. > :00:23.Hello and welcome to the One Show with Matt Baker. And Alex starts

:00:23. > :00:27.rehearsals, just for tonight and joined by Anita Rani. Lucky for us,

:00:27. > :00:35.we are in the presence of a home- grown screen goddess and Hollywood

:00:35. > :00:39.legend. It is Joan Collins! lovely to see you again! You look

:00:39. > :00:44.amazing. Thinking back to the last time we saw you, you were about to

:00:44. > :00:52.throw yourself into the world of pantomime. How was it? It was

:00:52. > :00:56.absolutely fantastic, I loved it. Oh, my God! I got swine flu! Just

:00:56. > :01:02.before Christmas, yes, and I was staggering around and trying to do

:01:02. > :01:07.my number and feeling really ill. I had to take five performance as off,

:01:07. > :01:13.which was for all. Now I know what swine flu is, it is not something

:01:13. > :01:16.you want to get! Do not shake hands with anyone! You mention that in a

:01:16. > :01:20.book. We'll be talking about that in a moment, we cannot wait to talk

:01:20. > :01:26.to you about it, but members of the public will be tapping into your

:01:26. > :01:30.wisdom. Yes? All this week on the One Show, we are keeping tabs on

:01:30. > :01:35.David Walliams as his wins the Thames. As we are finding out,

:01:35. > :01:38.things are going from bad to worse. Pretty rough. Before we get that

:01:38. > :01:41.progress report from the man himself, this is what happened when

:01:41. > :01:49.Matt Allwright went to the River Dart in Devon to meet one man who

:01:49. > :01:51.likes to take a dip on the wild The River Dart in Devon. Throughout

:01:51. > :01:56.history, its unpredictable rapids and currents have claimed many

:01:56. > :02:01.lives. Given the nature of the raging river, not necessarily the

:02:01. > :02:05.best place, you might think, is to stage a 10 kilometre river swimming

:02:05. > :02:09.marathon, but that is exactly what they are doing down there in Totnes,

:02:09. > :02:14.where the river becomes tidal, all the way down to where the waters

:02:14. > :02:17.are much deeper. The challenge for one of the younger swimmers,

:02:17. > :02:20.sending old Toby, is quite different. Struck down with chronic

:02:20. > :02:26.fatigue syndrome, he is worried the condition will stop him finishing

:02:26. > :02:30.at all. I was hit by glandular fever when I was 15. From then on,

:02:30. > :02:35.my training declined. I used to train up to 16 hours per week. It

:02:35. > :02:39.slowed me down, made me feel lethargic. Running upstairs send my

:02:39. > :02:44.heart rate through the ceiling. I still am somebody who really likes

:02:44. > :02:50.to go for it, give everything my best shot. It became more difficult

:02:50. > :02:53.psychologically because I felt I could do less and less physically.

:02:54. > :03:03.The start his moments away. Under the rubber caps, there are worried

:03:03. > :03:06.looking faces. Toby is in the white My greatest fear swimming the

:03:06. > :03:11.marathon was that I would hit a wall and not physically be able to

:03:11. > :03:18.go on. I want to competed. If I do not, I think it will send me into a

:03:18. > :03:22.downward spiral. -- complete it. are at the three, to mark, and you

:03:22. > :03:29.can see the first feeding station behind me. -- three kilometre mark.

:03:29. > :03:33.How is it going? It is going OK. You took off at quite a pace.

:03:33. > :03:36.just wanted to get going and then working to a pace from there.

:03:36. > :03:42.have got the ferry coming down, what does that mean for the

:03:42. > :03:45.swimmers? Because the river is narrow, it is forcing the swimmers

:03:45. > :03:51.closer to the bank. The wake of the boat will have some sort of pushing

:03:51. > :03:55.against them. There is quite a lot of stuff to avoid. There is. There

:03:55. > :03:59.are things that come loose, like that long whistle. There is other

:03:59. > :04:06.debris floating, underwater and time comment. It poses big problems.

:04:06. > :04:11.You can see the estuary is opening rider, and they are facing a strong

:04:11. > :04:16.wind now, as well as the tide, which is why you have got these

:04:16. > :04:23.waves. How is it going? It is getting more difficult to get the

:04:23. > :04:27.arms above the water. I am barely kicking any more, which isn't great.

:04:28. > :04:37.There is only two kilometres left. Now Toby is absolutely cream

:04:38. > :04:39.

:04:39. > :04:43.Congratulations, mate. As you came round, you put a little sprint on.

:04:43. > :04:48.I was going on adrenalin and determination. I will let you go

:04:48. > :04:53.and get warmed up. Thanks a lot. Thank you.

:04:53. > :04:57.As fun as that looks, remember that while swimming is dangerous, and

:04:57. > :05:02.you should seek expert advice. we said, David Walliams is on day

:05:02. > :05:10.three of his win down the Thames for Big Splash to raise money for

:05:10. > :05:13.Sport Relief. He gave us an update at lunchtime it. I have had the

:05:13. > :05:19.darkest time on the swim so far. I was quite surprised they let me

:05:19. > :05:24.going, because I am not well. Just very odd to move your body through

:05:24. > :05:30.the water when you feel like you're going to throw up. I just do not

:05:30. > :05:35.want to give up. Well, I sort of do. If there were no consequences, if I

:05:35. > :05:41.could just stop and nobody would mind, I would. But I would be

:05:41. > :05:46.letting people down. Oh, dear! a trouper. It is not just about

:05:46. > :05:50.physical endurance, it is mental endurance as well. He is still

:05:50. > :05:55.going for it. He started this morning in Abingdon, and the latest

:05:55. > :05:59.is that his team has reached Wallingford. So he is still going,

:05:59. > :06:03.doing very well. Please show all the support you can. I will be down

:06:03. > :06:10.there tomorrow. You are welcome to join us on the writ and give him

:06:10. > :06:15.support. There is a number you can texts to give a donation. How does

:06:15. > :06:21.the thought of swimming 140 miles down the 10 is a strike you? Well,

:06:21. > :06:27.first of all, you are swimming in sludge. That is correct. I would

:06:27. > :06:31.rather eat tones! Well, we will move on to chicken! Although the

:06:31. > :06:35.number of free range eggs purchased in the UK is on the rise, there are

:06:35. > :06:39.still an estimated 6 million battery hens in cramped conditions.

:06:39. > :06:49.And don't I know about it! Thanks to new EU legislation, their cages

:06:49. > :06:54.are about to get bigger, but not Scrambled, boiled, fried or poached,

:06:54. > :06:57.we love eggs, and while free range is growing in popularity, around

:06:57. > :07:03.half of the 11 billion that the aplastic came from battery farm

:07:03. > :07:07.hens. -- that we ate last year. By the end of next year, traditional

:07:07. > :07:12.battery cages like these will be illegal under European law. And

:07:12. > :07:17.that means big changes for many British poultry farmers. Duncan is

:07:17. > :07:22.currently moving 120,000 hens on his Cheshire farm out of the old-

:07:22. > :07:29.style battery cages. This is quite a sight, how many chickens have you

:07:29. > :07:35.got? In this particular shed, 25,000. So this is a battery cage.

:07:35. > :07:40.Yes, they are 60 centimetres wide. Every bird has 10 centimetres. They

:07:40. > :07:44.have 550 square centimetres inside the cage. They have access to two

:07:44. > :07:48.water points, so they have continual water. All the eggs roll

:07:48. > :07:54.forward on to these belts. If we go to the far end of the shed, they go

:07:54. > :07:58.down into the grading room. Next stop, a shed filled with pens in

:07:58. > :08:04.brand new cages. There are now 60 rather than six per cage. It may

:08:04. > :08:11.look cramped, but each bird has twice as much space and access to

:08:11. > :08:15.Stepping into here, I did initially think, it looks very similar, but I

:08:15. > :08:20.can say that they are moving around a lot more, they have got more

:08:20. > :08:26.space. They can all move about, they can flap their wings, as they

:08:26. > :08:31.showed. The hens are a lot happier in there. All in all, I think it is

:08:31. > :08:35.a far better system. Animal welfare organisations say the new cages,

:08:35. > :08:40.known as enriched colony systems car and an improvement but only a

:08:41. > :08:44.marginal one. The confinement is less extreme, there is

:08:44. > :08:48.consideration for the needs of the hens, but it is still a cage. We

:08:48. > :08:51.always urge consumers to look out for free range for organic. If you

:08:51. > :08:58.want to be sure the hens have had the kind of life that they should

:08:58. > :09:03.have, that is what you should do. According to compassion in World

:09:03. > :09:07.farming, this would only add two pens under the cost of each egg,

:09:07. > :09:12.but farmers say they are struggling to meet the expense of the new

:09:12. > :09:15.cages. It is estimated that it will cost the industry around �400

:09:15. > :09:19.million to convert from the old battery system to the new enriched

:09:19. > :09:23.colonies system in order to meet the EU deadline. Given the huge

:09:23. > :09:29.costs involved, it is no surprise that some European countries are

:09:29. > :09:32.lagging behind. The fear is that in some parts of Europe, illegal egg

:09:32. > :09:37.production in a old-style battery cages will continue after the

:09:37. > :09:39.deadline, putting British farmers at a disadvantage. While boxes of

:09:39. > :09:42.these eggs are highly unlikely to end up on our supermarket shelves,

:09:43. > :09:47.the worry is that they could find their way into Britain through

:09:47. > :09:52.other routes. There is a particular concern about the eggs that are

:09:52. > :09:55.used in manufacturing are things like cakes and in catering. Our

:09:55. > :09:59.government has a responsibility to ensure that these products are not

:09:59. > :10:04.important. Duncan fears that an influx of cheap continental eggs

:10:04. > :10:07.could force British poultry farmers out of business. A my concern is

:10:07. > :10:11.that if illegal eggs come from abroad, they will undercut our

:10:11. > :10:16.market. We just cannot afford to allow the price to be pushed down

:10:16. > :10:21.by illegal eggs coming in. Farmers here won the European Commission to

:10:21. > :10:26.introduce a European ban preventing eggs produced in battery cages

:10:26. > :10:30.being traded across national boundaries.

:10:30. > :10:34.Joan, the EU making life as good as they can for battery hens, but

:10:34. > :10:39.there is other legislation that you are concerned about, the world of

:10:39. > :10:42.light bolts. Can you and light and as? Well, the EU has said they want

:10:42. > :10:47.to get rid of the 60 watt and 100 watt light bulbs that you just

:10:47. > :10:50.screw in. You have got a little thing that goes in like that. They

:10:50. > :10:56.want to replace them with these twisty ones, whatever they are

:10:56. > :10:59.called. That is right. They are filled with mercury, if they break.

:10:59. > :11:03.They are difficult to get rid of, and the light is appalling, I

:11:03. > :11:08.cannot read by them. If I go to a hotel and they have those, because

:11:08. > :11:12.a lot of them have them, you cannot read. I do not understand why we

:11:12. > :11:16.have to go along with everything the EU says, because some of their

:11:16. > :11:20.rules and regulations, like bananas have to be a certain shape,

:11:20. > :11:25.cucumbers have to be a certain length... Don't get me started on

:11:25. > :11:30.that! We could be here for hours, it is a big deal for me. I love

:11:30. > :11:35.wonky vegetables. It is nice. Your book is full of opinions along

:11:35. > :11:39.those lines, but it is not a novel, A Biography, not a self-help book.

:11:39. > :11:43.How would you describe it? It is a light-hearted look as the way the

:11:43. > :11:47.world is today, according to me and my opinions about a lot of things

:11:47. > :11:51.that bother me at that I do not like, and a lot of things I do like.

:11:51. > :11:56.It has quite a few anecdotes and amusing stories about people I have

:11:56. > :12:03.met. It is not the story of my life at all. I touched on things like

:12:03. > :12:09.make-up and men and morals and manners and values. Airports and

:12:09. > :12:13.hotels! We love that side of you, the honesty. Do you? It is clear

:12:13. > :12:17.that you have a lot of wisdom to share. So we have been out and

:12:17. > :12:27.about, talking to members of the public who need your help, so for

:12:27. > :12:29.

:12:29. > :12:39.one night only, it is time to moan Hello, John, how are you doing,

:12:39. > :12:40.

:12:40. > :12:45.love? Troubles with rioting, how do we stop it? I think it is a very

:12:45. > :12:50.tricky question. I think that the riots, although our lot of the kids

:12:50. > :12:55.that were riding were like feral you this, there were a lot of

:12:55. > :12:58.criminals involved, and apparently at the end of a lot of streets

:12:58. > :13:04.there were people who were receiving television sets and

:13:04. > :13:11.clothes and all kinds of things. I do not know how to stop the rioting.

:13:11. > :13:14.Hopefully it has stopped. What I say in my book is that these kids

:13:14. > :13:19.today have so much more than my generation had. We did not have

:13:19. > :13:24.anything. We did not have television, we had record players

:13:24. > :13:28.and radios, but we amused ourselves. To hear children from 11 up to 18

:13:28. > :13:33.saying, we are bored, we do not have anything to do. They have more

:13:33. > :13:37.things to amuse themselves today, with things like that, the internet

:13:37. > :13:44.and the television and videos and DVDs and everything. We have

:13:44. > :13:47.another question for you. This is Annabel. Some thing that really

:13:47. > :13:51.annoys me is when I'm walking down the street and I smile at somebody

:13:51. > :13:54.and they do not smile back. What has happened to manners in his day

:13:54. > :13:58.and age? The she wants to know about Mahler's Fourth of it

:13:58. > :14:05.happened to me today. I was walking around the park. I smiled at a

:14:05. > :14:13.gentleman who had a dog, and he did not smile back. Who was that man?!

:14:13. > :14:18.I cannot believe it! Maybe men are a bit short-sighted! Yes, manners,

:14:18. > :14:23.I do have a long chapter about manners in my book. I think mothers

:14:23. > :14:28.do not seem to exist any more. When I go to a talk, I expect a man to

:14:28. > :14:33.open it for me. My husband always does and always would. If I open it

:14:33. > :14:37.myself, he gets cross. And I expect somebody to carry my bags if I am

:14:37. > :14:43.at the airport. And I just think the whole thing has just turned

:14:43. > :14:53.into a mess, a mess, really. Quickly to Sarah in a charity

:14:53. > :14:53.

:14:53. > :14:59.Hello, Joan. I have a nine-year-old daughter. How do I teach her to be

:14:59. > :15:02.glamourous without being unnecessarily sexy? That is a very

:15:02. > :15:08.interesting point up, because I know a lot of little girls want to

:15:08. > :15:12.look sexy. She should not wear anything too short. When I say

:15:12. > :15:20.short, I'm in thigh-length. And she should not wear anything too low or

:15:20. > :15:24.with slogans on that's a "I and sexy" or "I want a boyfriend".

:15:25. > :15:28.moment to, we will make Rav's dreams come true and let her -- him

:15:28. > :15:31.sit very close to Joan. Be for that, he takes us back to a

:15:32. > :15:37.time when a particular scientific breakthrough changed modern

:15:37. > :15:42.policing forever. Twenty-five years ago, a double

:15:42. > :15:45.murder case had Leicestershire police stumped. 15-year-old Dawn

:15:45. > :15:48.Ashworth had been raped and murdered in the village of Enderby.

:15:48. > :15:53.Police believed it was linked to Lynda Mann's murder three years

:15:53. > :15:57.earlier. A young local man had confessed to dawn's murder, but he

:15:57. > :16:03.had no link to the earlier case. A confession alone was not enough to

:16:03. > :16:07.secure a conviction. Police needed corroborating evidence, but after

:16:07. > :16:12.months of painstaking investigation, they had drawn a blank. In the end,

:16:12. > :16:15.it was not traditional detective work that identified Dawn's killer.

:16:15. > :16:19.A new scientific technique gave them their breakthrough, a

:16:19. > :16:24.technique which would change the way we fight crime forever. It

:16:24. > :16:28.would come to be known as DNA fingerprinting or profiling. It was

:16:28. > :16:31.the brainchild of Alec Jeffreys, who at the time of the

:16:32. > :16:38.investigation was researching how DNA, the molecule that makes up our

:16:38. > :16:44.genes, varies from one person to another. In 1984, we discovered a

:16:45. > :16:48.way of getting variable bits of DNA, which by accident provided the

:16:48. > :16:53.technology of DNA fingerprinting and opened a fantastic door on the

:16:53. > :16:56.world of human DNA identification. Be in a is a long string of code.

:16:56. > :17:03.Jefferies found a way to identify parts of the code that are unique

:17:03. > :17:07.to an individual. He used X-rays to visualise the results. These are

:17:07. > :17:12.DNA fingerprints from the very first case in the world to be

:17:12. > :17:17.tackled at this level. On this X- ray, each column represents one

:17:17. > :17:21.person's DNA. It is their DNA fingerprint. None of the columns

:17:21. > :17:26.match completely, showing that samples have been taken from

:17:26. > :17:30.different individuals. When I first came up with this technology in

:17:30. > :17:35.1984, I said, maybe we could use these front edification. At that

:17:35. > :17:39.point, about half the audience thought I had lost the plot. In a

:17:39. > :17:43.surely, his breakthrough was used to resolve paternity and

:17:43. > :17:48.immigration cases. Its crime solving potential was spotted by

:17:48. > :17:54.David Baker, the man leading the Leicestershire murder investigation.

:17:54. > :17:59.He recruited Mr Jefferies and sent him DNA samples from both cases

:17:59. > :18:03.along with that of the man who had confessed to one of the murders.

:18:03. > :18:08.established that Buckland was not the guilty party. What did that

:18:08. > :18:12.mean to you? Did it throw you, or was what you expected? Be it was

:18:12. > :18:17.not what we expected. There was a lot of heart-searching when we

:18:17. > :18:22.thought we had got a confession from Buckland. Our first task was

:18:22. > :18:27.to get him released. This was an important result, but it left the

:18:27. > :18:31.case without a single suspect. There was no such thing as a DNA

:18:31. > :18:35.database in the 1990s, so in another pioneering move, the police

:18:35. > :18:40.carried out the first mass DNA screening. All local miles between

:18:40. > :18:44.16 and that five were called upon to give a sample. It we had sent

:18:44. > :18:50.them a letter inviting them to come in, and asked them to bring some

:18:50. > :18:53.form of identification so that we could check firstly to the

:18:54. > :18:59.identification and the invitation and then take the blood sample.

:18:59. > :19:03.end police got a lucky break. In this pub, a local was overheard

:19:03. > :19:08.bragging that a man called Colin pitchfork had paid him to take his

:19:08. > :19:14.ID and give a sample on his behalf. Police arrested Colin Pitchfork.

:19:14. > :19:18.His DNA sample was taken, and they got a result. A pitchfork's unique

:19:18. > :19:23.DNA profile matched that taken from the murder scene. It proved beyond

:19:23. > :19:29.all doubt that Colin Pitchfork was the culprit. He became the first

:19:29. > :19:32.man to be convicted on the basis of DNA evidence. You pretty much

:19:33. > :19:38.single-handedly changed worldwide policing. You must be so proud.

:19:38. > :19:42.am, but if I had not done this, I was just the lucky guy who was in

:19:42. > :19:46.the right place at the right time with the right idea. Since the

:19:46. > :19:50.conviction of Colin Pitchfork, major cases like the sewer murders

:19:50. > :19:55.and the abduction of shown Matthews have been solved with the help of

:19:55. > :19:59.DNA. And millions of DNA profiles have been created to settle

:19:59. > :20:04.paternity and immigration disputes as well as to identify victims of

:20:04. > :20:07.war. But as a former police officer, I know the impact that DNA

:20:07. > :20:14.profiling and the national DNA database has on fighting crime. It

:20:14. > :20:18.is now a frontline tool relied on by police all over the world.

:20:18. > :20:23.Professor Sir Alec Jeffreys was playing down his discovery somewhat.

:20:23. > :20:27.I know! I said, you have revolutionised policing, and he

:20:27. > :20:31.said, someone else would have done it. It changed the world. I and it

:20:31. > :20:35.only happened in the '80s. You would think it had been around for

:20:35. > :20:39.ages. Now we are on the verge of another breakthrough? A very

:20:39. > :20:44.exciting one. When I joined the police, it would take weeks to get

:20:45. > :20:50.a DNA result back. Now I have heard we could have results within an

:20:50. > :20:55.hour, which would really change policing. How? If you take a

:20:55. > :21:00.burglary. You might find blood left behind by the burglar, who has

:21:00. > :21:05.stolen the property. If you can get to that burglar's house within an

:21:05. > :21:09.hour, with the property that would be sold on, that is fantastic.

:21:09. > :21:15.to make his work, there will need to be a massive database of DNA.

:21:15. > :21:21.How do you feel about this, Joan? It is a tricky subject. Could they

:21:21. > :21:31.do other things with that DNA? Could it be stolen and cloned? They

:21:31. > :21:33.

:21:33. > :21:36.might be able to make another Matt Baker. Is that such a bad thing?

:21:36. > :21:41.Maybe it is like babies having to be inoculated. They could do it

:21:41. > :21:47.when a baby is born. It is one of the ideas that has been bounced

:21:47. > :21:53.around. Saliva is one of the best body fluids. But it would be very

:21:53. > :21:59.expensive. But if the EU say we have got to do it... Don't get has

:21:59. > :22:02.started on that! But Joan, you are no stranger to databases. You are

:22:02. > :22:08.probably on a customs list somewhere, because you get into

:22:08. > :22:13.other. I once got into trouble with Customs. I had been in Paris,

:22:13. > :22:17.making a movie. I had been there for three months and came back with

:22:17. > :22:22.my 11-month-old daughter, and her nanny and her sister, and I had

:22:22. > :22:26.lots of suitcases. Valentino had made need lots of dresses. As it to

:22:26. > :22:30.the concierge, please send these to my house in the south of France. He

:22:30. > :22:36.did not, and the next thing that happened was that the customs man

:22:36. > :22:40.opened it and found all these beautiful dresses. He said, what is

:22:40. > :22:45.this? I said, this is a mistake. And I went bright red and felt

:22:45. > :22:48.guilty. He started taking out everything - my underwear,

:22:48. > :22:52.stockings... And there were people going by with cameras. Luckily,

:22:52. > :22:57.this was before cellphones, but they took pictures. I was there for

:22:57. > :23:00.two hours and they put me on a database for about four years.

:23:00. > :23:05.Talking of taking photos, all week Jamie Crawford has been inspiring

:23:05. > :23:13.viewers to get out with their cameras. These have been sent to us

:23:13. > :23:19.without asking for them. I love this photograph. This is a

:23:19. > :23:23.beautiful one of a robin red breast from Jess Stuart Smith. And this is

:23:23. > :23:28.from Mike Davies. Jamie Crawford would be proud.

:23:28. > :23:32.Tonight, he is off in search of the dragonfly.

:23:32. > :23:39.Some of the most amazing sights in nature are so tiny that they can

:23:39. > :23:45.barely be seen by the naked eye. Like the intense colours on a

:23:45. > :23:51.butterfly wing. All the fine hairs on a spider. But I want to get some

:23:51. > :23:57.of the most amazing eyes in nature. Almost as big as their heads,

:23:57. > :24:03.dragonflies have up to 30,000 lenses, so they can see 360 degrees

:24:03. > :24:10.at the same time. Macro photography is like looking through the world

:24:10. > :24:15.through a microscope in tiny detail. You need to get up close. And

:24:15. > :24:21.personal. It will not be easy, as dragonflies can wash by at around

:24:21. > :24:25.15 miles an hour. So I have drafted in wildlife photographer Ross

:24:25. > :24:31.Hoddinott, who specialises in macro and dragonflies. When are they up

:24:31. > :24:35.to? As soon as the sun warms up. Once their bodies are warm, there

:24:35. > :24:40.are active. Then it is a lottery whether you can get close enough.

:24:40. > :24:45.If you fancy having a go, flowers are a great thing to practise on,

:24:45. > :24:49.as they don't fly away.... Photography of flowers is not

:24:49. > :24:53.without its difficulties. biggest challenge is the shallow

:24:53. > :25:01.depth of field you have to work with when you shoot I magnification

:25:02. > :25:09.so. It means it is hard to get the whole subject in focus, so a tripod

:25:09. > :25:17.is useful, but not always practical. It is such a tiny focus, that you

:25:17. > :25:21.just have to hold your breath. A standard 50 mm lenses find the

:25:21. > :25:31.things you can get close to, but the dragonflies, it is good to have

:25:31. > :25:31.

:25:31. > :25:37.a bit more oomph. It is 6:30am, and today I have the real deal. It is a

:25:37. > :25:41.180 mm lens, which means I can get about a metre away from them, but

:25:41. > :25:44.still take close-up photographs without disturbing them.

:25:44. > :25:51.Dragonflies are cold-blooded, which is why they slow down at night.

:25:51. > :25:55.They had for long weeds and grass is to hide from predators. With his

:25:55. > :26:02.eagle-eyed, boss finds a close relative of the dragonfly, A damsel

:26:02. > :26:07.fly. It is important that your camera is parallel to the subject.

:26:07. > :26:11.Keep the insect in focus. Dragonflies perch with their wings

:26:11. > :26:15.outstretched, while the dainty red damselfly tucks them back at rest.

:26:15. > :26:21.I am pleased with these shots and more that determined than ever to

:26:21. > :26:31.find a dragonfly. There the next hour, although we see plenty of

:26:31. > :26:34.

:26:34. > :26:42.wildlife, it is not the right sort. Or it is too fast. A flying

:26:42. > :26:47.dragonfly, not a stationary one. It is really warm now, and active. But

:26:47. > :26:57.I am finding them easier to spot, especially as they seem to like the

:26:57. > :26:57.

:26:57. > :27:06.warmth of this fence. I have to be stealthy. Look at that. That is

:27:06. > :27:13.good. This is exciting. That is an amazing bright red. Or it was

:27:13. > :27:21.amazingly bright red. But then I spot one landing. And with Ross's

:27:21. > :27:31.tips in mind, I am getting level with the subject. Please don't

:27:31. > :27:34.

:27:34. > :27:39.flyaway. Wow. This is amazing. I am really happy with that photograph.

:27:39. > :27:49.Great tips. Even Joan was getting tips. Can we just look at the last

:27:49. > :27:53.frame? That dragonfly seems to be smiling! Pappy to be on the Cher.

:27:53. > :27:59.Joan, you have been on the front cover of over 700 magazines?

:27:59. > :28:03.first one was when I was 17, a long time ago. And when I was doing

:28:04. > :28:08.Dynasty, I was on magazine covers constantly. I did a couple only

:28:08. > :28:15.last month. Talking of a Dynasty, we know Dallas is being remade with

:28:15. > :28:19.some of the original cast members. Will Dynasty come backwards fact --

:28:19. > :28:23.will it come back? Unfortunately, John Forsythe, who played Blake, is

:28:23. > :28:30.dead. You would have wanted the three of us. They have been talking

:28:30. > :28:35.about it, but they are waiting to see how the public received Dallas.

:28:35. > :28:38.It has been a pleasure to have you on. That is all for tonight. Thanks

:28:38. > :28:44.again to Joan. Her book, The World According To Joan, is available to

:28:44. > :28:47.buy exclusively at Sainsbury's. Thank you also to Anita. Tomorrow,