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:00:17. > :00:27.# But don't you step on my blue suede shoes

:00:28. > :00:46.# You can do anything but lay off of my Blue suede shoes

:00:47. > :00:54.# You can do anything but lay off of my blue suede shoes #.

:00:55. > :01:02.CHEERING AND APPLAUSE. Hello and welcome to the One Show with Matt

:01:03. > :01:05.Baker And Alex Jones. This is the sound of course of Elvis Presley,

:01:06. > :01:10.Johnny Cash, Jerry Lee Lewis and Carl Perkins together they are the

:01:11. > :01:13.four legends that up the Million Dollar Quartet. They will be back

:01:14. > :01:17.for us singing live a little bit later on. Indeed. As we are et going

:01:18. > :01:21.into the rock-and-roll spirit tonight, we would like to see your

:01:22. > :01:27.photos. If you were a teddy boy, a rocker, or maybe you could carry off

:01:28. > :01:32.a ra-ra skirt in the 50s. Or maybe you're somebody who still loves to

:01:33. > :01:36.rock the 50s look today. Email us your photos and we will show some of

:01:37. > :01:41.them later. Lovely music. How do we top this for the next hour? What are

:01:42. > :01:47.we going to do? We will introe deuce our sofa line-up. One was conquering

:01:48. > :01:54.the charts in the 80s with Spandau Ballet, the other was mistaken for

:01:55. > :01:59.an 80s popstar in Singapore. Please welcome Martin Kemp and Alan Davies.

:02:00. > :02:01.Welcome, lads. Thanks to you over there, as well.

:02:02. > :02:11.Spandau Ballet Who on earth were you being mistaken for. Have a guess?

:02:12. > :02:21.No-one is there? No-one. We have Rick Astley. Is it him? Yeah. Rick

:02:22. > :02:27.Astley. To be fair. Striking. This was in Singapore? I was on my way

:02:28. > :02:32.to... I was on my Wembley Stadium home, anyway, we have receiptist in

:02:33. > :02:38.Australia. Me and my sister were in a shopping centre in Singapore.

:02:39. > :02:41.These schoolgirls and one schoolboy were adamant, despite denials, I was

:02:42. > :02:52.Rick Astley, now I would have signed and moved on. He is back, brace

:02:53. > :02:57.yourself. Love Rick. Martin, how about your self. Me and Gary live

:02:58. > :03:05.together. Someone comes up to me every day and says, it's Gary Kemt.

:03:06. > :03:13.No, it's Martin. You are identical. We are only two years apart. Two

:03:14. > :03:20.hotties. We played famous twins, the Ray Twins. We lookalike. You have

:03:21. > :03:27.seen Alan many times at the Arsenal match? Yeah waiting outside. You

:03:28. > :03:34.have never seen Martin. I try to sneak in. Alan is completely on

:03:35. > :03:37.show. Were you aware. When he goes by he is always humming a Spandau

:03:38. > :03:44.Ballet tune. You always know he's coming. You could meet up and go

:03:45. > :03:51.together. I'm in the cheep seats. Alan has... Nonsense. I won't have

:03:52. > :03:54.that. We will chat to you more before 8.00pm.

:03:55. > :03:57.If we told you prisoners in the UK were being given

:03:58. > :03:59.ladders and scaffolding, you might start to worry that

:04:00. > :04:02.they're plotting their escape, but it's all part of a scheme

:04:03. > :04:04.to tackle the number of re-offenders in British prisons.

:04:05. > :04:05.Raphael Rowe, former prisoner turned reporter,

:04:06. > :04:19.Prison, it's meant to stop criminals re-offending as well as punish them

:04:20. > :04:23.for their crimes, but in the UK we're failing and we're failing

:04:24. > :04:26.quite badly. Nearly half of all adult prisoners in England and Wales

:04:27. > :04:31.will be back behind bars within a year of their release. The rates are

:04:32. > :04:37.similar in Scotland and Northern Ireland, too. Re-offending is an

:04:38. > :04:41.expensive business, costing society around ?15 billion a year. Here in

:04:42. > :04:48.Brixton Prison, they are trying to turn that around. I spent time in

:04:49. > :04:53.Brixton Prison, in fact on this wing, A Wing, I used to come down

:04:54. > :04:57.these stairs and go into a caged exercise yard. It was all about

:04:58. > :05:02.punishment. What they are offering now is rehabilitation. Prisoners

:05:03. > :05:07.here are offered the chance to train as scaffolders on the outside newly

:05:08. > :05:14.trained scaffolders are paid around 80 to ?90 a day, an incentive to

:05:15. > :05:18.stay on the straight and narrow. We met one prisoner hoping to make the

:05:19. > :05:24.grade. He was given a two-year sentence last year for handling

:05:25. > :05:26.stolen goods. I'm using my time constructively. It's nice to be

:05:27. > :05:30.around good people you can learn off. We are not all bad people. We

:05:31. > :05:34.all work as a team when we're working. How can we be sure you're

:05:35. > :05:38.not coming back to prison again? Now I have my skills in scaffolding, I

:05:39. > :05:46.think I would like to put them into practice. Funded by property company

:05:47. > :05:51.Land Securities. It's a UK first. It's run by a charity called Bounce

:05:52. > :05:54.Back. They specialise in helping prisoners train for and find work.

:05:55. > :06:00.They have to be changed over to a three meter. Trainer, Mark, known as

:06:01. > :06:04.Scaff, has 25 years experience as a scoff folder and comes in five days

:06:05. > :06:08.a week. The route we are taking here is no different to how it is outside

:06:09. > :06:13.on a construction site. We show them the same way, we talk to them the

:06:14. > :06:18.same way. If it's raining we ask them to work through the rain. On

:06:19. > :06:21.site you do the same thing. What is the incentive, apart from getting

:06:22. > :06:24.out of the cells? The odd one that will be their incentive. Most of the

:06:25. > :06:28.guys come through because they know there are pros spenths at the end of

:06:29. > :06:33.it. There is a shortage of scaffolders. If these guys complete

:06:34. > :06:36.this course, not only will they be guaranteed a job when they get out

:06:37. > :06:40.of prison, they will earn a decent wage. It reduces the risk of them

:06:41. > :06:44.going out and committing further offences. The scheme is not immune

:06:45. > :06:50.to the problems facing prisons across the UK. We have to have an

:06:51. > :06:53.officer with us. If they have short staffed or not enough staff for the

:06:54. > :07:00.wing, we don't get our staff member to sit with us. If that's the case,

:07:01. > :07:04.these guys have to go back and they lose out on a day's training. It's

:07:05. > :07:14.not just a pipe dream, the jobs are real. I came to meet one of

:07:15. > :07:17.Brixton's graduates. Guess where he is putting up scaffolding, here at

:07:18. > :07:23.Scotland Yard. You just couldn't make this up. Jason. Good to meet

:07:24. > :07:28.you. You have been given an opportunity. How has it changed your

:07:29. > :07:32.life? Well, I mean before I was, even though I would come out, I

:07:33. > :07:36.would try and get work, it was few and far between. When I wasn't in

:07:37. > :07:41.work is when I got into crime, do a little bit of dodgy things and by

:07:42. > :07:44.coming out and doing this I've been given the opportunity to support my

:07:45. > :07:48.family. Actually be a provider. Get up for work every day and know my

:07:49. > :07:53.job is stable and long-term. The project can only work if employers

:07:54. > :07:57.are willing to take a punt on ex-offenders. The statistics show

:07:58. > :08:02.that six out of ten employers automatically exclude anyone with a

:08:03. > :08:08.criminal record. For Managing Director of Scaffolding Company,

:08:09. > :08:12.Matthew Warner, the new recruits are filling a skill shortage. There is

:08:13. > :08:16.lots of work. There is a shortage of good staff. We expect the same from

:08:17. > :08:21.everyone. They have to work the same, turn up on time and work

:08:22. > :08:25.safely or they haven't a job got. Is the pay good, they are not being

:08:26. > :08:29.exploited? They get paid the same as everyone else. This scheme can't

:08:30. > :08:33.solve our high re-offending rates on its own, Matthew is certain it's

:08:34. > :08:36.making a difference. There is another four or five that should

:08:37. > :08:42.come out after Christmas. That will be ten. We hope next year it could

:08:43. > :08:45.be 20, 30, 40, I don't think they will go back into re-offending.

:08:46. > :08:49.Jason too is certain his life has changed for good. Do you think you

:08:50. > :08:52.will ever go back to committing crime now you have been gin this

:08:53. > :08:56.opportunity? Absolutely never. Hand on my heart, nothing will make me go

:08:57. > :09:03.back. I love my job, I love my family, I love the person who I am

:09:04. > :09:08.now, not the person I was. Raphael is here now. What we heard there,

:09:09. > :09:12.the scheme in Brixton, it has been a roaring success, hasn't it. Are

:09:13. > :09:16.there similar schemes in other parts of the can country? It makes a

:09:17. > :09:20.difference. Jason cede said it makes a difference. There are schemes all

:09:21. > :09:23.over the country for male and female prisoners. Some are not all to do

:09:24. > :09:28.with scaffolding and the construction industry. There is a

:09:29. > :09:31.skill shortage in the construction industry. The companies that have

:09:32. > :09:37.gone into Brixton specifically to set up this scaffolding scheme was

:09:38. > :09:49.because there is this shortage. What's really interesting, what is

:09:50. > :10:00.really interesting is M, Gregg and the co-op employ ex-offenders.

:10:01. > :10:07.Ex-offenders. They go into prisons and run workshops to train

:10:08. > :10:12.prisoners. Virgin have employed people to work on their West Coast

:10:13. > :10:15.trains. They go into prisons and actively recruit every few months

:10:16. > :10:20.prisoners who are about to be released to work with them. A really

:10:21. > :10:24.good scheme. Do you see it as a game-changer? It's about businesses

:10:25. > :10:27.going in, it's not a Government scheme? It's not. The Government

:10:28. > :10:34.have a role, of course. They have to allow the companies to go in. Yes,

:10:35. > :10:37.that is the game-changer. When M invest in training prisoners and

:10:38. > :10:42.give them a job. That is what it's about. Guaranteed job when they come

:10:43. > :10:48.out of prison. You can train as many prisoners, if you don't give them a

:10:49. > :10:53.job they can go back to square one. Conviction rate, 60% of prisoners

:10:54. > :10:56.reconvict two years after being released. Those who have jobs, that

:10:57. > :11:02.reduces to half. That is significant. It is a good statistic.

:11:03. > :11:07.It's a big figure. You have seen the news headlines and heard what has

:11:08. > :11:10.been going on in the prisons recently. Bad press, overstretched

:11:11. > :11:14.to their limits. Threats within prisons. Are our Justice Department

:11:15. > :11:21.doing enough at the moment to cover this and address these issues? It's

:11:22. > :11:26.difficult. They have announced these game changing reforms. They talked

:11:27. > :11:29.about introducing an extra 2,500 prison officers. Why are they

:11:30. > :11:34.needed? More and more prisoners are being locked up. There is not enough

:11:35. > :11:38.staff to I a allow them out of their cells to do meaningful work and

:11:39. > :11:43.activities. It's key to rehabilitating prisoners. What is

:11:44. > :11:49.the most important change is giving governors of prisoners, who run

:11:50. > :11:53.these establishments, to spend their finances how they want. Previously

:11:54. > :11:58.they were restricted on what they spend the finances to run their

:11:59. > :12:01.prisons on. They can invest in education and training programmes

:12:02. > :12:04.that change the lives of prisoners. That is a big, big difference. It

:12:05. > :12:08.makes a big change to prisoners when they come out of prison. It gives

:12:09. > :12:12.the guys something to work towards, doesn't it? It does. It's a change.

:12:13. > :12:16.It's all about the big businesses. They are starting to buy in. When

:12:17. > :12:21.you talk about Virgin going in and recruiting prisoners, they do it on

:12:22. > :12:26.the outside for the unemployed, ex-military who come back from where

:12:27. > :12:31.they served end in prison. They need help. The Ministry of justice offer

:12:32. > :12:35.a service. It's no the near what these companies and big business do,

:12:36. > :12:41.they offer a job at the end of the day. Do you think this white paper

:12:42. > :12:45.covers enough? It... I spoke to the Prison Reform Trust who are big on

:12:46. > :12:48.issues to do... They think too many people are being sent to prison in

:12:49. > :12:52.the first place. Prisons are overcrowded. That needs to be done

:12:53. > :12:56.to stabilise a break in the system. The system is broken. We have seen,

:12:57. > :13:00.it the riots you mentioned, inmates, violence, that stuff. For me, I go

:13:01. > :13:07.back to that point - it's about big businesses. They have to work. These

:13:08. > :13:10.schemes will be successful when they go and offer people real jobs. I

:13:11. > :13:14.think that's where the change comes. It's a no brainer, isn't it? If it's

:13:15. > :13:22.as simple as that it would be already achievable. We have 80,000,

:13:23. > :13:26.85,000 prisoners in our system. It's offering jobs to five, ten, 12

:13:27. > :13:31.there. You need thousands to come out with jobs. It's paving the way.

:13:32. > :13:37.It is. Thank you. We will stay on the subject of crime fighting now.

:13:38. > :13:43.The fictional time. Jonathan Creek. Alan you are back in a Christmas

:13:44. > :13:50.special playing the crime-solving conjurer. Who is desperate to be

:13:51. > :13:54.your sidekick this year. Let's look. What are you up to at the moment,

:13:55. > :13:58.Jonathan, anything exciting on the horizon. Any juicy locked room

:13:59. > :14:04.mysteries I should know about? It's quiet. It was a classic, Satan's

:14:05. > :14:08.chimney, spoiler alert. The descending ceiling. You don't get

:14:09. > :14:14.cases like that any more. What would actually be your personal favourite

:14:15. > :14:19.then? The corpse that climbed up the cellar steps, the vanishing Skelton

:14:20. > :14:28.was top of my list. Anything with an empty tomb you can't go wrong...

:14:29. > :14:34.APPLAUS. That's Warwick Davies. What is Jonathan Creek investigating then

:14:35. > :14:44.in this special? Set the scene. A spooky house. Good. Mysterious

:14:45. > :14:51.disappearances. Yes. And... But this one there is someone who has come

:14:52. > :14:58.out of prison... Oh, right. Fitting into our last item. Jonathan Creek

:14:59. > :15:03.finds himself in danger. Always. Real peril. Leave it. There we don't

:15:04. > :15:07.want to destroy it. You can't talk about it without giving giving it

:15:08. > :15:09.away. The writer has an old fashioned idea about what a

:15:10. > :15:16.Christmas special is. That means more of everything. More plots, more

:15:17. > :15:21.jokes, more guess guest stars. A bumper edition. Do you get excited,

:15:22. > :15:25.it's 20 years ago. There is a flashback sequence in this. Oh,

:15:26. > :15:28.right. Is that in the flashback sequence. Look at that! Who is that.

:15:29. > :15:43.Rick Astley! I sprayed my hair brown. It is

:15:44. > :15:49.making me a bit emotional. Can you believe it? Is it right that on your

:15:50. > :15:55.first day 20 years ago the crew did not realise you were in it? I had

:15:56. > :16:00.never been on a film set before and I sat on a chair talking to the only

:16:01. > :16:07.person I knew, Ashley, waited for ten hours and got sent home. The

:16:08. > :16:14.next day, Pete Robinson, our gap, said he thought I was a lazy problem

:16:15. > :16:24.by chatting up the make-up girl. I said, how did you know I was not an

:16:25. > :16:27.actor? You make an appearance in Birds Of A Feather. Last time we saw

:16:28. > :16:35.you in it you were getting quite cosy with Dorien. Very cosy. As the

:16:36. > :16:43.relationship blossomed? What is going on? No, it is the same. Dorien

:16:44. > :16:50.is Dorien, but it is the loveliest show to be in. We recorded with an

:16:51. > :16:53.audience and there are little kids. It was the strangest thing because

:16:54. > :16:57.going back working with them was like working with your family,

:16:58. > :17:05.people you have known since you have grown up. It is a funny show to be

:17:06. > :17:11.on. It is something like Steptoe and son, seaside postcard stuff. Alan,

:17:12. > :17:16.you are very busy this Christmas because you have got this DVD out,

:17:17. > :17:20.Little Victories, where you talk openly about the joys of raising

:17:21. > :17:28.children and being a parent. This is the perils of soft play. You go down

:17:29. > :17:34.the slide and I will see you in the ball pit if you can work out how to

:17:35. > :17:45.get down. It is not frightening. It is just a slide, darling. Come back

:17:46. > :17:56.through! By the time I got my face through it I was like Jack Nicholson

:17:57. > :18:03.in The Shining. Here is daddy! All the parents are going, we know that

:18:04. > :18:08.moment. You have it all to come. You will be going down that slide. Belly

:18:09. > :18:16.first. Any Little Victories for you Martin? I was trying to think of it.

:18:17. > :18:25.I have been working on mice and to eat fruit since he was a tiny baby

:18:26. > :18:31.and he has never even eaten a grape. Every time I come round the door and

:18:32. > :18:35.show him a grade I say 100 quid, 200 quid. Last week it went up to ten

:18:36. > :18:45.ground and he still has not eaten it. No way! I know he is not going

:18:46. > :18:50.to eat it. You have got to work it into the stuffing on Christmas Day.

:18:51. > :18:55.You need to watch the DVD and get all the tips. You get very personal

:18:56. > :19:00.with it. Is this the most personal stand up to you have done? It is and

:19:01. > :19:05.I am 50 now and when you stand that you have got to have something to

:19:06. > :19:10.say. You cannot do something about buying a pair of shoes. You have to

:19:11. > :19:15.have a point of view. I talk about being a parent, my elderly father,

:19:16. > :19:21.my wife, never having any intimate relations ever again. Loving the

:19:22. > :19:24.children but wanting to kill them, all the normal things. The audience

:19:25. > :19:31.is laughing and nodding at the same time. If you are telling the truth

:19:32. > :19:41.about your day-to-day life, it raises a laugh. Is it quite hard on

:19:42. > :19:48.your family? Oh, they do not know. It was recorded in New Zealand,

:19:49. > :19:52.quite far away. Yes, it was. Alan's DVDs, Little Victories are out now.

:19:53. > :19:54.What links Elvis Presley, The St Winifred's School Choir,

:19:55. > :19:57.The Lewisham Greenwich NHS Choir, The Beatles, Benny Hill

:19:58. > :20:02.They've all had a Christmas Number One.

:20:03. > :20:07.And, who knows, maybe this year they could be joined by this lot.

:20:08. > :20:17.# Last Christmas I give you my hard... We all know the classics but

:20:18. > :20:22.every now and then a wild card Christmas song takes the music

:20:23. > :20:26.industry by surprise and a group of villagers from Chelsfield have

:20:27. > :20:32.uniquely created their own by working together from here, their

:20:33. > :20:35.local pub. Musicians Dave and Leicester are among the regulars and

:20:36. > :20:42.they are hoping their festive effort will be the latest in a long line of

:20:43. > :20:47.seasonal, novelty hits. So, with the idea in place, people needed to be

:20:48. > :20:53.recruited and the pub again proved vital. They come up with these

:20:54. > :20:57.wonderful schemes. These things do not happen just like that. There are

:20:58. > :21:03.a lot of musicians around here and everyone is up for it. Leicester has

:21:04. > :21:07.got one of your's biggest synthesisers in his shed and he has

:21:08. > :21:10.not just Britain for films and television. Have you secretly

:21:11. > :21:17.harboured a desire to make the Christmas record? No, not at all.

:21:18. > :21:22.How did you recruit people for this? The pub regulars would have a party

:21:23. > :21:25.here and a party there and we said, as we are all together, why don't

:21:26. > :21:32.you come along and we can sing together. Did you audition anyone?

:21:33. > :21:38.No, the whole idea was to do it and no matter what, we would find a way

:21:39. > :21:43.of getting everyone included. Even the vicar is in on the act and the

:21:44. > :21:48.church is just a short way away from the boozer. When it was time to do a

:21:49. > :21:53.Christmas song and they invited me to take part, I thought, why not.

:21:54. > :21:59.Dave has done the lyrics and there is not much that has not been said,

:22:00. > :22:04.so what did he come up with? I tried to find a topic that was funny, a

:22:05. > :22:11.cynical view of Christmas. In the village as long as it is silly we

:22:12. > :22:15.will do it. Any Christmas song needs and memorable chorus and what a

:22:16. > :22:20.better way to hear it with a rousing rendition of it in the plays were we

:22:21. > :22:43.first heard it. # Mary neighbours, it is just another

:22:44. > :22:52.Christmas. # It is just another Christmas.

:22:53. > :22:59.# Who cares? This is just another Christmas.

:23:00. > :23:06.Who cares? This is just another Christmas.

:23:07. > :23:13.# This is just another Christmas song.

:23:14. > :23:26.APPLAUSE . The BBC Music Awards happen on

:23:27. > :23:31.Monday. All-day listeners and viewers have been voting for their

:23:32. > :23:38.song of the year. Les top Christmas number ones. Usually it is extract,

:23:39. > :23:50.sometimes a good cause. But there are outsiders. Boo. We have got

:23:51. > :24:04.three brilliant outsiders. First up is Independent Arts with Nobody

:24:05. > :24:11.Should Be Alone. Listen To This. # It Is Time To Sing, Never Alone...

:24:12. > :24:17.There Is A Story Behind This. This Is 400 Elderly People From The Eye

:24:18. > :24:24.Of White. It is probably the entire population. It is about never being

:24:25. > :24:34.alone at Christmas. You have to buy it, it is charity. We have a school

:24:35. > :24:39.with What Are We Going To Do For Christmas? # What are we going to do

:24:40. > :24:50.for Christmas? # We are only six years old.

:24:51. > :24:54.# I want a galactic spaceship... They have got the big band sound and

:24:55. > :25:01.apparently Julian Lloyd Webber is involved in that. And then we have

:25:02. > :25:11.got, I love this one, Southend News network and Annie Humphrey with

:25:12. > :25:18.Dartford tolls. # I left home Tuesday lunch and now

:25:19. > :25:25.it's Saturday. Dartford tolls... You could do a

:25:26. > :25:31.potential cover of that. That is perfect, I love that trap. It is the

:25:32. > :25:37.perfect protest song. It costs ?2 50 to get through and we are still

:25:38. > :25:44.paying it. I went through there yesterday. If anyone wants to get to

:25:45. > :25:52.number on based on last year's statistics, how much do they have to

:25:53. > :25:59.sell? The NHS choir last year, 120 7000. It is not that many. If all

:26:00. > :26:07.the people of the Isle of White bought the first single we heard...

:26:08. > :26:11.We would be number one. Back in my day it would have been at least a

:26:12. > :26:15.couple of million. When you think of all the different platforms that

:26:16. > :26:25.people are listening on, it is surprising. It is surprising. The

:26:26. > :26:27.Isle of White only have vinyl. Every dad will be getting a vinyl record

:26:28. > :26:38.player this year. The BBC Music Awards are celebrating

:26:39. > :26:44.the last year. But there have been loads of comebacks. Rick Astley with

:26:45. > :27:00.his album went straight to number one. And I almost didn't know, back

:27:01. > :27:07.from 19 1987. Rick Astley, that man can do it on stage. I absolutely

:27:08. > :27:13.love it. I saw him in Newport ages ago and he was amazing. On your show

:27:14. > :27:16.you have had Busted and All Saints, they have got good albums and they

:27:17. > :27:25.are both touring next year. Some good comebacks. There have also been

:27:26. > :27:30.some sad losses and quite a few. In our industry and all the arts. We

:27:31. > :27:36.started the year with David Bowie's death at the age of 69. That was

:27:37. > :27:45.followed by the Beatles producer Sir George Martin. Prince, Pete Burns.

:27:46. > :27:54.Also Bobby Vee, do you remember messy-mac and last month we lost

:27:55. > :27:59.Leonard Cohen. A lot of loss. If there was one to vote for, how would

:28:00. > :28:03.You have until 8.00pm tonight to vote.

:28:04. > :28:06.You can vote for your favourite Song of the Year online for free

:28:07. > :28:09.by registering at bbc.co.uk/music or via SMS by texting the word SONG

:28:10. > :28:11.followed by the number of your favourite track to 84400.

:28:12. > :29:46.There are terms and conditions.Texts will be charged at your

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:29:48. > :29:50.Voting is limited to one vote per mobile number.

:29:51. > :29:56.Voting closes at 8.00pm tonight, 7th December 2016.

:29:57. > :29:58.For terms and conditions go to bbc.co.uk/music.

:29:59. > :30:05.And, please, don't vote if you're watching on demand.

:30:06. > :30:12.For people screaming - why is that song not there? How have they made

:30:13. > :30:19.the shortlist The most radio and TV plays throughout the year. Ah. OK,

:30:20. > :30:25.thattic has sense. Thank you. You can tune into the awards on Monday

:30:26. > :30:26.at 8. 30pm on BBC One. We will be behind-the-scenes of the show on

:30:27. > :30:29.Monday evening. Next week the darts world

:30:30. > :30:32.are having their own big event, the PDC World Championships,

:30:33. > :30:34.and this is the award they're vying for -

:30:35. > :30:36.the Sid Waddell Trophy. Here's his son fondly remembering

:30:37. > :30:50.what it was like to be raised On the wire, as my dad would have

:30:51. > :30:56.said. He was the voice of darts, Sid Waddell, known for his accent, his

:30:57. > :31:02.quick wit and sharp humour. There was less noise when Pompey was

:31:03. > :31:08.swamped in lava. Put him on the Starship Enterprise he would be

:31:09. > :31:12.captain. This is my hometown with Sid lived and I grew up. This was

:31:13. > :31:15.his local. I always said - can I go to the darts, dad.

:31:16. > :31:20.I would watch the World Championships on TV. It looked

:31:21. > :31:23.really exotic. Larger than life characters dripping with bling. I

:31:24. > :31:29.was made to wait until I was 12 years old and went to Jolleys for

:31:30. > :31:35.the 1985 fineam with my friend, Glenn. We were taken to the

:31:36. > :31:40.commentary box. There is Sid in there, it was like a performance.

:31:41. > :31:46.The whole body went into it. The scoreline looks like an a lafrnl. He

:31:47. > :31:49.came from a traditional working-class community outside

:31:50. > :31:53.Newcastle. A pit village where the pubs were the life and soul of the

:31:54. > :31:56.community. In every pub in the north-east then then there was a

:31:57. > :31:59.dartboard. That is when he fell in love with pub games.

:32:00. > :32:02.He vowed never to go down a mine and it, has to be said shall he was not

:32:03. > :32:07.suited to mining. It was just as well that he had this ability, this

:32:08. > :32:12.fierce intelligence which allowed him to escape that background. My

:32:13. > :32:16.dad stumbled into darts commentary. He was a terrible darts player, it

:32:17. > :32:26.has to be said. He waxed lyrical about darts. Word got around at the

:32:27. > :32:32.BBC, where he was working. When they were looking for a commentator they

:32:33. > :32:36.took a chance. My up m and dad met when she was 18. They got married

:32:37. > :32:46.and had four kids. It happened very quickly. My mum and dad split up and

:32:47. > :32:54.we ended up moving with my dad to Pudsey and moved in with Irene. Our

:32:55. > :33:00.step-mother and her son, Nicholas. There were five kids. Nick, my

:33:01. > :33:04.stepbrother, the eldest. He is studious, he is introverted. Quite

:33:05. > :33:09.like Sid, though they are not related. Me and my three sisters,

:33:10. > :33:14.Lucy, Emma, Charlotte, I'm the youngsters. We are kite quite

:33:15. > :33:20.extroverted characters. We like to talk. We like to drink. We grew up

:33:21. > :33:25.in a noisy household. Three things that Sid couldn't walk past - a pub,

:33:26. > :33:33.a shop selling Cornish pasties or sausage rolls, and a mirror. None of

:33:34. > :33:40.us can walk past a mirror. He used to call us a right burn of posse is.

:33:41. > :33:44.He could go live on air, you would think they would have confidence. He

:33:45. > :33:48.wasn't. He could get worked up. He would doubt what he had done. He

:33:49. > :33:53.wasn't around that much. When he was around the role he played was

:33:54. > :33:56.entertainment dad. Entertaining in the car, singing songs, leading

:33:57. > :34:11.songs. Changing the words. He could make up a song about anything. He

:34:12. > :34:16.loved songs. He was an convention al father. I was sat by his bed side

:34:17. > :34:21.and he said to me, we had some laughs, didn't we? I said, you know,

:34:22. > :34:32.did we ever. Because we did. That's the thing about Sid, we laughed a

:34:33. > :34:38.lot. Barry Hearne said they would name the trophy after my dad. Proud

:34:39. > :34:43.moment for us. Whatever happens, that trophy will have Sid Waddell's

:34:44. > :34:48.name on it from now on. It's there forever. He is a legend. Have you

:34:49. > :34:57.been to the darts? No. It's brilliant. I've got a foam finger!

:34:58. > :34:58.That's the thing. I never saw you as excited as a morning after the

:34:59. > :35:12.darts. It's brilliant. Let's talk about Martin's new

:35:13. > :35:15.musical, Million Dollar Quartet. It's on at the Royal Festival Hall

:35:16. > :35:20.for three weeks. Three weeks. It's based on the other hand this very,

:35:21. > :35:24.very famous recording session that all took part in a day, really, by

:35:25. > :35:32.accident. We heard the band earlier on. Set the scene for us. One day in

:35:33. > :35:36.Sun Records. Sam Phillips, who ran the studio, he got together, Carl

:35:37. > :35:42.Perkins, Jerry Lee Lewis, Elvis Presley and Johnny Cash all on one

:35:43. > :35:45.night for one jam session - only. Sam Phillips was bright enough at

:35:46. > :35:48.the time to record the session. You can hear the whole thing and hear

:35:49. > :35:54.them talking to each other. Playing jams. It was by accident? Well, it

:35:55. > :36:01.was Christmas time and the boys were getting together for a drink. It's

:36:02. > :36:05.such a wonderful story. It's a story I've known growing up, most of my

:36:06. > :36:11.life. It's a story I always wanted to be there as a fly-on-the-wall.

:36:12. > :36:14.Actually doing this musical was an opportunity.

:36:15. > :36:21.I can live out this thing I always wanted. What age were they when it

:36:22. > :36:29.happened? Starting out. Elvis was early 20s. Jerry Lee must have been

:36:30. > :36:34.17, 18. It was really early days. I read something interesting, in the

:36:35. > :36:37.jam session it was Elvis sat on the piano the whole night because he

:36:38. > :36:45.knew that Gerry Lee was better than him. Is that true? We heard the band

:36:46. > :36:49.earlier on. With this musical, it's the real sound on stage played by

:36:50. > :36:52.those that are in it. It's not like there is an orchestra in the pit.

:36:53. > :36:56.It's music all night long. Absolutely. It the's strange, you

:36:57. > :37:00.get an orchestra in the pit, most people come to the show don't know

:37:01. > :37:05.they are down there. You might as well play a tape. These guys are the

:37:06. > :37:10.real thing. It's so nice. For me, I've got two of my favourite things

:37:11. > :37:14.going on, acting on stage and band rehearsing. Playing at the same

:37:15. > :37:19.time. Two of my favourite things, hobbies, put together. Is it hard

:37:20. > :37:26.for you not singing or getting involved? Do you get involved at

:37:27. > :37:29.all? No, I have enough to do. You said when you read it, it was

:37:30. > :37:34.overwhelming. You were in two minds whether to take it? Absolutely. A

:37:35. > :37:39.lot of lines to learn. Listen, I do so much where it's just kind of

:37:40. > :37:43.celebrity based you sit around talking, chatting, like we are

:37:44. > :37:47.today. It was nice over the last few months to get my brain to work and

:37:48. > :37:54.learn stuff. I didn't mind. It was a challenge. A test. A lot of work for

:37:55. > :38:01.three weeks? It's three weeks, three weeks, like I say, something that I

:38:02. > :38:05.knew about the story. I always wanted wished to be there. It's an

:38:06. > :38:09.opportunity. You nearly got into a musical, once, Alan, we hear I did.

:38:10. > :38:13.I was nearly in Chitty Chitty Bang Bang. I told my dad about. It I've

:38:14. > :38:25.been asked to do, Chitty Chitty Bang Bang, I'm in two minds, I can't sing

:38:26. > :38:30.or dance. He looked at me and goes - theVan Dyke part. I said yes. He

:38:31. > :38:39.said,was marvellous. He said it three times. I did it. I really

:38:40. > :38:44.enjoyed it. I did it as well. You did. The old Child Catcher. You

:38:45. > :38:47.heard that story when you were growing up. Which one of those

:38:48. > :38:52.people would you have liked to have played? Listen. I can guess. When I

:38:53. > :38:58.grew up it was All about Ellis Elvis. Ist advice. I remember

:38:59. > :39:05.sitting a Christmas dinner when I was a kid... Please, look at Elvis!

:39:06. > :39:09.Christmas dinner when I was a kid and Jail House Rock was on the

:39:10. > :39:13.television. By the end of the day my collars were turned up and my lip

:39:14. > :39:21.was turned up as well. I loved Elvis growing up. What about you Alan?

:39:22. > :39:29.Johnny Cash. Walk kn the Line. McMy name is Sue, how do you do... #

:39:30. > :39:33.Johnny Cash is the real King. Million Dollar Quartet will be on at

:39:34. > :39:35.London's Royal Festival Hall from 17th December for three weeks. Go

:39:36. > :39:40.and see it if you can. Yes. Every so often we show a film that

:39:41. > :39:43.demands your full attention and, Here's a truly inspiring

:39:44. > :39:47.woman who has managed to conquer her silence by throwing

:39:48. > :43:30.herself into her lifelong passion. Doreen and two of her

:43:31. > :43:34.granddaughters, Nel and Connie join us now. Welcome. Great to have you

:43:35. > :43:38.on the show. So your grandma, Connie, writes things down so

:43:39. > :43:42.everybody can understand. You two, you have different ways of

:43:43. > :43:48.understanding what she says? I'm so close to grandma. I've known her my

:43:49. > :43:52.whole life I why just understand her through the little things she does.

:43:53. > :43:58.If she doesn't like something. We get each other. Doreen, everybody

:43:59. > :44:03.will be watching this how to get their hand on your art. Wandering if

:44:04. > :44:09.it's for sale. It's a hobby, isn't it? It's about expressing yourself

:44:10. > :44:15.and you learnt a lot from your father? What do you like to pass on

:44:16. > :44:28.to your grandchildren, what sort of art do you like to do with them?

:44:29. > :44:35.The sewing side of things. You must love going to grandma's house. We

:44:36. > :44:41.saw it in the film it's bursting with colour. It's lovely. What do

:44:42. > :44:50.you like to get involved with. A variety of stuff, there sewing and

:44:51. > :44:59.painting. When I was younger I enjoyed playing with the doll house

:45:00. > :45:05.she made from scratch. I used to sew little clothes for my dals.s do

:45:06. > :45:08.colouring. She had a huge box of colouring pencils. We would draw

:45:09. > :45:13.pictures together. It was really How would you good. Describe grandma's

:45:14. > :45:20.house as somebody who has never been round? Probably be like falling down

:45:21. > :45:24.a rabbit hole and falling out somewhere with all these magical

:45:25. > :45:28.creatures, dolls and eggs. It's amazing. Full of colour. The best

:45:29. > :45:33.person to go to for art homework. Yeah. No doubt about it! Lots of

:45:34. > :45:37.people will have watched that film and found it hugely inspiring. What

:45:38. > :45:44.message then would you give to some people at home who are looking at

:45:45. > :45:46.you think - how did she move her life on. Could you write that down

:45:47. > :46:45.for us. Brilliant. Be happy for the life you

:46:46. > :46:50.still have. Thank you for basically showing as your home. If you ever

:46:51. > :46:55.change your mind about selling theirs, you have got two buyers

:46:56. > :47:05.here. These eggs, goodness me, have you seen these? Be careful. They are

:47:06. > :47:11.ostrich eggs. They are beautiful. It moved. Thank you once again to all

:47:12. > :47:17.of the family. APPLAUSE

:47:18. > :47:23.. We are moving on to a bit of a dilemma. How do you express

:47:24. > :47:30.gratitude to somebody's thinking the same bus from disaster? We have got

:47:31. > :47:38.our way of showing gratitude and it involves a lot of cake from are

:47:39. > :47:43.favourites Bake Of winner. Last May it was an ordinary school day and

:47:44. > :47:46.children caught their usual bus home, little knowing an ordinary day

:47:47. > :47:54.was about to take an extraordinary turn. When we got near to the

:47:55. > :47:59.bridge, I saw a huge splash in the river. The breach was rapidly

:48:00. > :48:07.crumbling away just feet ahead of them. The bricks were big and heavy

:48:08. > :48:13.and they were splashing in. Luckily for the children, their school bus

:48:14. > :48:19.driver, Derrick trolled, was quick to react. As I turned into the

:48:20. > :48:25.bridge I noticed the side wall was missing. Straightaway the alarm

:48:26. > :48:32.bells rang. I stopped the bus and I could see some of the road on the

:48:33. > :48:37.other side had gone. I read first. The second part of the bridge had

:48:38. > :48:46.dropped, the lot went. It was pretty scary really. Derek is a master of

:48:47. > :48:51.understatement. Without his quick thinking the bus with him and the

:48:52. > :48:55.children on board could easily have fallen into the river with the

:48:56. > :49:01.collapsing bridge. I know how grateful the children, their parents

:49:02. > :49:04.and the teachers are to him. I want to help the children say a massive

:49:05. > :49:10.thank you to their bus driver in the best way I know. Through cake. The

:49:11. > :49:15.children want to surprise Derek with a special treat when he picks them

:49:16. > :49:21.up, so they set about making a tribute to his heroics with cake.

:49:22. > :49:27.Shall I do the splashes that came up? Maybe we should do like people

:49:28. > :49:37.in the windows looking out shocked at what is happening. Are you colour

:49:38. > :49:45.in in the whole bus? Yes. Good on you. Is that how close it was to the

:49:46. > :49:52.edge? Yes. Wow. Where is Derek? In there. Being a hero. The design is

:49:53. > :49:57.coming on beautifully and at play time I caught up with the

:49:58. > :50:01.headmistress, Julie Page. The thought of the bus going down with

:50:02. > :50:06.the bridge is just unthinkable and we are so thankful our children are

:50:07. > :50:12.all safe. He said he was just doing his job, but thank God he did. In

:50:13. > :50:21.the kitchen there is just about time to make some gingerbread bus

:50:22. > :50:29.drivers. Derek has a moustache. Does he? This is like he is wearing

:50:30. > :50:39.lipstick! Do you think Derek were like these biscuits? What a lovely

:50:40. > :50:44.way to say thank you. Wright, a bit of detail. And we are in time

:50:45. > :50:51.because the driver has arrived for the home bus run and he is in for a

:50:52. > :50:56.surprise. Hello. Nice to meet you. The kids have been decorating cake

:50:57. > :51:02.and making you biscuits to say thank you for what you did for them. He

:51:03. > :51:08.very much, kids. I was speaking to you this morning and you kept all

:51:09. > :51:16.that choir. We have got gingerbread men in Derek forms. It is an easy

:51:17. > :51:22.shape! Very nice. I am overwhelmed. I did not expect that at all. Thank

:51:23. > :51:29.you very much. All that is left is for Derek to collect all his thank

:51:30. > :51:39.you cards. Thank you, Derek. And then it is back to the day job. He

:51:40. > :51:48.rode bus driver. Well done, Derek. Thank you.

:51:49. > :51:52.Brilliant. We have been talking about growing up and you have both

:51:53. > :52:03.got something in common, you work in a greengrocer's. What was your

:52:04. > :52:14.speciality? Apricots. Doing what? Any fruit or veg? I put up all the

:52:15. > :52:18.pyramids that you used to get. Not a tangerine pyramid? I can say that

:52:19. > :52:32.because we have got a crate of tangerines here. And apricots. What

:52:33. > :52:36.did you do with the apricots? I had a lot of complaints and there was

:52:37. > :52:43.only one customer who complained that I used to give her the hard

:52:44. > :52:48.ones. Ideally what I need is a bag. I only worked there for two weeks. I

:52:49. > :53:00.was always in the cold store getting cabbages! You have to go like that.

:53:01. > :53:06.I loved doing that. Can you rattle out a tangerine pyramid? I will give

:53:07. > :53:16.it a go. You need the little tissues that go in between. They hold it all

:53:17. > :53:26.together, but we can try. Just give it a go. Let's have a chat about QI.

:53:27. > :53:34.Yes, it is on. Sandi Toksvig is at the helm. How is life without

:53:35. > :53:38.Stephen Fry? Well, she is much smaller, literally on a platform.

:53:39. > :53:44.But we are very lucky to have her. It continues on Fridays. There we

:53:45. > :53:52.are, the pyramid has been formed. How did you do that? Sorry, that

:53:53. > :54:03.does not deserve a round of applause. I never said it did! I

:54:04. > :54:19.would do anything for a round of applause. And you have got the show

:54:20. > :54:23.coming out? Yes, Let It Shine. It is trying to find five kids who can be

:54:24. > :54:30.part of a band in a musical with the music from take that. That is up my

:54:31. > :54:37.street. How did you enjoy the judging? What kind of judge are you?

:54:38. > :54:42.I have always been somebody who hated stealing somebody's

:54:43. > :54:45.confidence. If somebody goes on stage the best is to leave them with

:54:46. > :54:52.something that they can take away from it, something constructive, so

:54:53. > :54:56.they take something away even if they are not that good and they do

:54:57. > :55:06.not pass the audition. I am that kind of judge. We are starting with

:55:07. > :55:16.people's pictures of the 50s theme. This is on the Ark Royal in the 50s.

:55:17. > :55:22.These girls meet up in Canterbury. Marjorie sent this in of her and her

:55:23. > :55:28.husband then with an old American pick-up. That is straight out of

:55:29. > :55:35.Greece. This is JoAnn in Kent. She looks gorgeous. Sandra sent in a

:55:36. > :55:46.photo of her husband David taken in 1973 with Jerry Lee Lewis himself.

:55:47. > :55:54.We have got time for one more. This is a band. This is from the 80s, but

:55:55. > :56:00.they look like they are in the 50s. It has been lovely to see you both.

:56:01. > :56:01.Thanks to Alan and Martin for joining us.

:56:02. > :56:04.Alan's DVD 'Little Victories' is out now, and Martin can be seen

:56:05. > :56:06.in 'Million Dollar Quartet' from the 17th December

:56:07. > :56:13.We'll be back tomorrow with Philip Schofield.

:56:14. > :56:19.They have spoken to graduates who have paid thousands of pounds to

:56:20. > :56:24.companies and they have not got their loans.

:56:25. > :56:27.# You shake my nerves and you rattle my brain

:56:28. > :56:29.# Too much love drives a man insane

:56:30. > :56:31.# You broke my will, oh what a thrill

:56:32. > :56:36.# Goodness gracious great balls of fire

:56:37. > :56:39.# You kissed me baby, woo, it feels good

:56:40. > :56:42.# Hold me baby, learn to let me love

:56:43. > :56:50.# I'm a nervous world that your mine, mine, mine, mine

:56:51. > :56:53.# I cut my nails and I twiddle my thumbs

:56:54. > :56:56.# I'm really nervous but it sure is fun

:56:57. > :56:58.# Come on baby, you drive me crazy

:56:59. > :57:02.# Goodness gracious great balls of fire.

:57:03. > :57:12.# You ain't nothin' but a hound dog # Cryin' all the time

:57:13. > :57:14.# Well, you ain't never caught a rabbit and you

:57:15. > :57:19.# Well they said you was high-classed

:57:20. > :57:25.# Yeah they said you was high-classed

:57:26. > :57:30.# Well, you ain't never caught a rabbit

:57:31. > :57:53.# And I ain't seen the sunshine since I don't know when

:57:54. > :57:59.# I'm stuck in Folsom Prison and time keeps draggin' on

:58:00. > :58:17.# But that train keeps a-rollin' on down to San Antone

:58:18. > :58:21.# Come on over baby, whole lotta shakin' goin' on

:58:22. > :58:28.# Yes, I said come on over, baby, baby, you can't go wrong

:58:29. > :58:31.# We anin't fakin' a whole lotta shakin' goin' on

:58:32. > :58:37.# Well, I said come on over, baby, we got chicken in the barn

:58:38. > :58:42.# Come on over, baby, I got the bull by the horns

:58:43. > :59:02.# We ain't fakin, a whole lotta shakin' goin' on

:59:03. > :59:14.# Well shake, baby, shake I said shake, baby, shake

:59:15. > :59:23.# Come on over whole lot of shakin goin' on