:00:20. > :00:23.Hello and welcome to The One Show, with Matt Baker. And Alex Jones.
:00:24. > :00:33.And we're back in the studio after last night's special show from
:00:34. > :00:35.
:00:35. > :00:40.Buckingham Palace. Where did you get that? Nowhere. LAUGHTER A big
:00:40. > :00:44.thank you to everyone who sent messages. And di buy it from a shop.
:00:44. > :00:46.Just to clarify. If you had problems last night registering on
:00:47. > :00:49.the website for the ballot for tickets to the Diamond Jubilee
:00:50. > :00:54.concert, don't worry. There was a huge amount of people doing the
:00:54. > :00:57.same and it caused some congestion on the site. Everything is back up
:00:57. > :01:01.and running today, and don't forget - the tickets are not first come
:01:01. > :01:03.first served and you have until 2nd March to apply, so there's still
:01:03. > :01:06.plenty of time. Back to tonight, and we're talking
:01:06. > :01:09.about one of the funniest bridges in Scotland. The Forth Bridge?
:01:09. > :01:12.funny. The Tay Bridge? Couldn't crack a joke if it tried. OK. What
:01:12. > :01:18.about the man who's been called the best Scottish stand-up of his
:01:18. > :01:24.generation? Now you're talking. It's Kevin Bridges!
:01:24. > :01:27.CHEERING Good to see you, Kevin. As we were saying, we were in the
:01:27. > :01:33.Palace yesterday. Such a shame you couldn't have been our guest then.
:01:33. > :01:37.I would have loved that. Have you met the Queen? No, never. This
:01:37. > :01:45.year? No, I've never bumped into the Queen. You don't bump into the
:01:45. > :01:51.Queen. Not really. I haven't done the Royal Variety Show. So far you
:01:51. > :01:56.have had an incredible career for such a young lad. We'll get to that
:01:56. > :02:01.later. And Superintendent Brandreth of the Yard will be opening a case
:02:01. > :02:03.file on a murder which scared a whole village into silence.
:02:03. > :02:05.The current housing crisis has meant that a growing number of
:02:05. > :02:08.landlords are cashing in by cramming tenants into dangerous
:02:08. > :02:15.properties. Even garden sheds. Anita Rani has been out on patrol
:02:15. > :02:18.in one of the worst-hit areas to see just how bad it can get. 21st
:02:18. > :02:22.century Britain. Shocking images of the conditions in which some people
:02:22. > :02:26.are living. All of these pictures were taken in the borough of Newham,
:02:26. > :02:32.East London. Newham is one of the most deprived boroughs in England
:02:32. > :02:37.and the council here have seen a huge rise in slum conditions in
:02:37. > :02:41.rental properties. Much of the accommodation is made up of so-
:02:41. > :02:47.called supersheds, small outbuildings which unscrupulous
:02:47. > :02:53.landlords build without planning permission. This one was rented to
:02:53. > :02:56.four adults, netting the landlord an astounding �12,000 a year. The
:02:56. > :03:02.planning enforcement team are expecting the incidences of problem
:03:02. > :03:07.rental properties to more than double in the coming year. The
:03:07. > :03:11.council uses aerial photography to track down landlords who risk the
:03:11. > :03:15.wellbeing of their taents by renting illegal accommodation.
:03:15. > :03:21.Newham Council officers have been tipped off that there's a property
:03:21. > :03:24.that's potentially being rebted out illegally. -- rented out illegally.
:03:25. > :03:34.The biggest problem the team face is getting into the houses to
:03:35. > :03:35.
:03:35. > :03:39.inspect them. Eventually their persistence pays off. Inside we
:03:39. > :03:46.find a tenant whose room seems to have been created from part of what
:03:47. > :03:56.was once the kitchen. Did you speak Hindi? Yes. He tells me that he
:03:57. > :04:01.
:04:01. > :04:07.shares the room with his wife who is studying in the UK. This chaps
:04:08. > :04:12.is from Gujarat and pays �60 a week. The room is cramped and the doorway
:04:12. > :04:17.opens directly into the communal kitchen. This is typical of the
:04:17. > :04:20.conditions that Christine sees every day. The tenants renting here
:04:20. > :04:26.are not doing anything wrong. Christine's team finds seven other
:04:26. > :04:30.rooms in the house, one of which is crammed with beds for four people.
:04:30. > :04:36.There is no telling how many people use this extremely basic condition
:04:36. > :04:39.and outside toilet, and at the back of the house we discover a newly
:04:39. > :04:43.built shed. More room that could potential I will be filled with
:04:43. > :04:48.future tenants. We've just seen a building being erected at the back.
:04:48. > :04:53.We've come into the property and found one of the rooms occupied by
:04:53. > :04:58.a gentleman and his wife. The front room has two bunk beds, four beds
:04:58. > :05:02.in there. Upstairs there are three further rooms being represented out.
:05:02. > :05:06.We couldn't get in there. And there's a room in the roof being
:05:06. > :05:09.rented out. What's problem of that man having that room for his wife?
:05:09. > :05:13.From a planning point of view, anything more than six people
:05:13. > :05:20.sharing a house requires planning permission. So there is a problem
:05:20. > :05:24.there. And this poor chap with his bedroom off the kitchen, if the
:05:24. > :05:28.kitchen catches fire, he can't go anywhere. It's lethal, that
:05:28. > :05:34.property. The problem isn't just confined to this section of the
:05:34. > :05:36.country. Across the UK complaints about serious and potentially life-
:05:36. > :05:42.threatening hazards such as gas and electricity connections have gone
:05:42. > :05:47.up by 25% Some cases the rent for these slums can coming out of your
:05:47. > :05:52.pocket. One survey showed �3.5 billion of taxpayers' money is
:05:52. > :05:58.being paid to effectful landlords who fail to repair properties,
:05:58. > :06:02.harass and illegally evict tenants. Christine's team have plans to use
:06:02. > :06:06.thermal images of the area to zero in on outbuildings that could
:06:06. > :06:10.potential I will be used as rental accommodation. We are dealing with
:06:10. > :06:14.properties that are under the radar. They are living in squalor. This
:06:14. > :06:19.council is trying to ensure that everybody lives in a properly-
:06:19. > :06:22.created dwelling house and has a proper life. Unscrupulous landlords
:06:22. > :06:26.are notoriously difficult to police. Newham Council is planning to force
:06:26. > :06:29.landlords to register before they can rents out a property. If they
:06:29. > :06:33.don't register, they'll be breaking the law.
:06:33. > :06:38.Anita is here. As bleak as it seems this is the only type of property
:06:39. > :06:43.that some people can get into isn't it? These landlords are exploiting
:06:43. > :06:47.vulnerable section of society which for whatever reason can't get
:06:47. > :06:53.social housing, and charging them extortionate amounts of money.
:06:53. > :06:59.Three people died last year in this type of accommodation. You said
:06:59. > :07:03.that Newham are planning on getting landlords to register. Which will
:07:03. > :07:06.be rolled out across the country? In Scotland, if you are a landlord
:07:06. > :07:11.you have to be registered full stop. Northern Ireland, it looks like
:07:11. > :07:15.they are going the same way This country, in England, different
:07:15. > :07:19.councils can do it their own way, depending on their situation.
:07:19. > :07:25.Newham wants to roll out to say if you are a landlord you have to
:07:25. > :07:29.register with them by 2013. But in Oxford and Sheffield, they have a
:07:29. > :07:35.voluntary accreditation system for landlords. You can go and check. If
:07:35. > :07:41.you are a landlord and you own a property and are unsure what to do,
:07:41. > :07:46.ask your council. Kevin you have moved out of your house. I'm not
:07:46. > :07:53.suggesting that it is anything like that! On the topic of sheds... I
:07:53. > :07:58.have a mattress in my mum and dad's garden hut! No, I have a nice gaffe
:07:58. > :08:05.in the nice bit of Glasgow. Does your mum do the housework? My mum
:08:05. > :08:11.has a job as a home help, so she has spare time, as I see it, so I
:08:11. > :08:15.employed her to come up and clean my house. I'm 25 and I have a home
:08:15. > :08:21.help. She's probably watching now and cleaning. There's a KitKat
:08:21. > :08:27.wrapper under the couch. A couple of socks. She comes up. She's good.
:08:27. > :08:32.Only when I'm away. I never go shopping. That's every guy's dream.
:08:32. > :08:36.Get your mum to come round and clean up. You are spoilt, Kevin.
:08:36. > :08:38.Barack Obama could soon be looking for a new house if he loses the US
:08:38. > :08:41.Presidential elections later this year. One of the frontrunners
:08:41. > :08:44.hoping to get into the White House is particualrly in the spotlight
:08:44. > :08:53.because of his Mormon faith. Simon Boazman thinks we should all
:08:53. > :08:57.learn a little more about Mormons. Brace yourself for some terrible
:08:57. > :09:00.singing. # America, God shed his grace on
:09:00. > :09:05.thee, stkwhrrks US presidential hopeful Mitt Romney is not only the
:09:05. > :09:09.Republican front run ir but he's a devout member of the Church of
:09:09. > :09:13.Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, meaning he could be the first ever
:09:13. > :09:16.Mormon President. But although it's a fast-growing religion, claiming
:09:16. > :09:21.800 new converts every day around the world, it would seem that the
:09:21. > :09:28.people in the UK don't know a great deal about it. I think they are
:09:28. > :09:34.allowed to have quite a few wife es. You give them half your wages.
:09:34. > :09:41.Lake City in America, a kind of cult. I don't know anything about
:09:41. > :09:48.Mormons. These young men should have the answers. All young single
:09:48. > :09:52.Mormons are encouraged to become missionaries, so for these elders
:09:52. > :09:58.that means two years devoted to spreading the Mormon word, when
:09:58. > :10:04.they can persuade people to listen. Excuse me? My friend and I share a
:10:04. > :10:10.message on how families can be together forever. This book talks
:10:10. > :10:15.of Jesus Christ. Despite the brush- offs they are still smiling and
:10:15. > :10:20.agreed to tell me anything about Mormonism. Two guys in your early
:10:20. > :10:23.20s, why are you called elders? means teacher or missionary. That's
:10:23. > :10:27.our title. You seem to be rolling up to people in the street. What
:10:27. > :10:31.are you saying to them We are hoping to help others understand
:10:31. > :10:37.our beliefs better and then set a time that we can go and see them
:10:37. > :10:42.and teach them more. We could give you our number and if you are
:10:42. > :10:47.interested, give us a call. I know you are not that far from home. You
:10:47. > :10:51.are not allowed to see your family for two years, how tough is that?
:10:51. > :10:55.It is just two years. I know that through this my family gets blessed,
:10:55. > :10:59.so I would city here for the two years knowing that they are going
:11:00. > :11:04.to get blessed in return. Do you ring her up and make sure she is
:11:04. > :11:09.alright, your mum? No, I speak to her at Christmas and on Mother's
:11:09. > :11:15.Day. She's doing fantastic. normal 21 and 22-year-old, what are
:11:15. > :11:21.the restrictions you are under? don't smoke, we don't drink alcohol
:11:21. > :11:25.and we don't partake of illegal drugs. I don't view them as
:11:25. > :11:30.restrictions, but as a blessing, to allow us the opportunity to keep
:11:30. > :11:34.our bodies clean so the spirit can be with us more. Mormonism was
:11:34. > :11:39.founded in 180 in America and its headquarters are in Salt Lake City,
:11:39. > :11:46.Utah. They identify as Christians, but there are some differences
:11:46. > :11:49.between their beliefs and mainstream Christianity. They
:11:49. > :11:56.believe Christ's modern church has been restored by apostles. The
:11:56. > :12:03.first Mormons came to the UK in 1837 and now Bishop Turner preachs
:12:03. > :12:09.to 200 in Chorley, Lancashire. Family is important to all Mormons,
:12:09. > :12:17.so Bishop Turner spends at least one it in a week reading, playing
:12:17. > :12:21.and -- praying and playing games. have heard that everyone in the
:12:21. > :12:28.Mormon faith has to hand over a proportion of their salary? That's
:12:28. > :12:33.true. I have never failed to give 10% of my income to the Church.
:12:33. > :12:39.people in the Mormon church can have many wives, is that true?
:12:39. > :12:44.That's not true, but I'm sure it is a common misconception. It is not
:12:44. > :12:50.something the Church practises. It is against civil and Church law.
:12:50. > :12:57.Where does that belief come from? small percentage of the Church
:12:57. > :13:07.practised polygamy and it was outlawed. It is not something we
:13:07. > :13:09.
:13:09. > :13:14.You have to look at the name of the church. It's the Church of Jesus
:13:14. > :13:16.Christ of Latter-day Saints. There is nothing cultish about the Church
:13:16. > :13:21.of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. We invite everybody to come
:13:21. > :13:25.and find out more about the church and examine for themselves. With
:13:25. > :13:29.more than 2,000 members here in the UK and Mitt Romney's beliefs likely
:13:29. > :13:39.to become an election issue in America we could be hearing a lot
:13:39. > :13:43.
:13:43. > :13:49.And, as if this was pre-planned, you actually -- you actually went
:13:49. > :13:54.to a party hosted by a Mormon, didn't you? It was all right. They
:13:54. > :13:58.do not drink, so it was just drinking Red Bull and getting sober.
:13:58. > :14:03.Did you have a good time? It was good, there was a lot of energy in
:14:03. > :14:09.the party, because alcohol makes you a bit lethargic. Loads of Red
:14:09. > :14:14.Bull and all of that. The idea is, you're going in search of material.
:14:14. > :14:18.Yes, you will see some stand-up footage from Glasgow, and then me
:14:18. > :14:22.going behind the routine. I did a routine about American house
:14:22. > :14:27.parties, compared to the parties that we would be used to. That was
:14:27. > :14:32.only because I had used this particular name, doing my stand-up
:14:32. > :14:38.stuff, this guy, who got bombarded on Facebook, and it turned out to
:14:38. > :14:44.be a real guy. He e-mailed me, telling me he has got 15,000 new
:14:44. > :14:49.Facebook mates, all from Glasgow. It gave me this idea for the series,
:14:49. > :14:52.we flew over and met the guy. We were hoping it was going to be a
:14:52. > :14:58.New York was something, and we found out that it was the home of
:14:58. > :15:04.the Mormon church. Amazing, really friendly people. In every episode,
:15:04. > :15:12.you met a comedian, did you? Yes, Frank Skinner is on tonight. And in
:15:12. > :15:17.a couple of weeks, you meet James Corden, don't you? Yes, I went back
:15:17. > :15:22.to do a show in my old school. It was all about school memories.
:15:22. > :15:27.you were talking about changing for physical education. Yes, we were
:15:27. > :15:32.both the fat guys at school. I used to just embrace the fact that I was
:15:32. > :15:38.big. At any point you're about to be told off, you do that, everybody
:15:39. > :15:44.thinks it's funny. And then it's, can I get dressed now? But were you
:15:44. > :15:48.dying inside? Of course, it is the worst time to tell people to get
:15:48. > :15:55.changed in front of each other. There is no good time, when you're
:15:55. > :16:02.13, 14, 15, it is so cruel that twice a week you make kids going to
:16:02. > :16:07.a room and take their clothes off. That was cut out just in time, it
:16:07. > :16:12.was going to go a bit post- watershed. It is on at 10:45pm,
:16:12. > :16:17.tonight. It is a big night for you. Yes, I hope it is good, it has been
:16:17. > :16:21.done now, so you can just forget about it and hope people enjoy it.
:16:21. > :16:25.You were talking about getting changed and things, one thing you
:16:25. > :16:35.do not want is communal changing rooms, and you did work in a shop
:16:35. > :16:41.
:16:41. > :16:47.before, didn't you? I worked in TK Maxx. You did not tell anybody
:16:47. > :16:52.about your stand-up comedy duo, originally? No. But why keep it
:16:52. > :16:56.from your friends, when you were doing stand-up? I just gave it a go,
:16:56. > :17:01.it was a one-off thing, I always got in trouble in school for being
:17:01. > :17:05.funny, so I tried to make it something positive, go and give
:17:05. > :17:10.stand-up comedy a go. The gig went well, they phoned me, and I thought,
:17:10. > :17:14.all right, we are on to something here. It was something me and my
:17:14. > :17:19.dad did. I never played football and all of that kind of stuff. My
:17:19. > :17:24.dad doesn't drink, so we never went down the pub for a pint. And then I
:17:24. > :17:28.thought, if my mates showed up, they would win it. And also,
:17:28. > :17:32.because everyone on the bill, they were all drama students with
:17:32. > :17:36.degrees and stuff, and I was worried that my mates would think,
:17:36. > :17:40.these guys were mental. So I thought I would just keep them to
:17:40. > :17:46.one side. Then I got a review, and one of my old teachers brought it
:17:46. > :17:52.into the school. And then my friends sussed out it was me. And
:17:52. > :18:01.the next gig was a sell-out, I knew everybody in the audience. That's
:18:01. > :18:06.on tonight at 10:40pm, Kevin Bridges - What's The Story?. In
:18:06. > :18:10.case you did not know, next Tuesday is Valentine's Day. We want you to
:18:11. > :18:15.write a poem for your loved one. And we want you to send it into us.
:18:15. > :18:21.Six lines or less, keep it clean, and make it really good - or really,
:18:21. > :18:25.really bad. And you can send it to this address... We are looking
:18:25. > :18:28.forward to reading them. Now, Valentine's Day is particularly
:18:28. > :18:38.well remembered in one English village for a bizarre crime which
:18:38. > :18:39.
:18:39. > :18:44.took place 67 years ago. Yes, Inspector Gyles has reopened the
:18:44. > :18:48.very strange case of Charles Walton. In 1964, a revolutionary new crime
:18:48. > :18:53.drama was opened by the BBC, based on the real-life investigations of
:18:53. > :18:57.this man, legendary detective Robert Fabian. He was famous for
:18:57. > :19:00.his thoroughness, tenacity, and for embracing the new techniques of
:19:00. > :19:04.forensic science. But this was a case he would never crack, and
:19:04. > :19:11.which would haunt him for years to come. It is a tale of murder and
:19:11. > :19:17.witchcraft, set in the sleepy village of Lower Quinton in
:19:17. > :19:25.Warwickshire. On the evening of St Valentine's Day 1945, the local
:19:25. > :19:31.constabulary was called to a murder scene. In a field near Meon Hill
:19:32. > :19:36.lay the body of a 74-year-old man, his body was found pinned to the
:19:36. > :19:41.ground with a pitchfork, and he had been slashed to death with this
:19:41. > :19:46.instrument. Immediately, rumours began of ritual sacrifice. The
:19:46. > :19:51.victim's name was Charles Walton, a farmhand from the village. His
:19:51. > :19:57.macabre murder made headlines, and the Warwickshire Constabulary asked
:19:57. > :20:02.Scotland Yard for assistance. They sent their best man, Fabian, hoping
:20:02. > :20:06.his advanced crime-fighting techniques would crack the case.
:20:06. > :20:10.When Fabian arrived, what were his initial thoughts? Initially thought
:20:11. > :20:17.it was a simple robbery, and a murder, obviously. His money belt
:20:17. > :20:21.had gone, his watch had gone, there was a motive for theft. What about
:20:21. > :20:25.the nature of the killings? He was murdered in exactly the same way as
:20:25. > :20:29.somebody who had been murdered many years before, which was believed to
:20:29. > :20:35.be a ritualistic killing, all the signs of a witchcraft murder, to
:20:35. > :20:39.appease the local gods and feed the earth. So, Fabian was wrestling
:20:39. > :20:45.with two strike for possibilities - a straightforward murder, or a
:20:45. > :20:49.murder motivated by witchcraft? Absolutely. By mid-afternoon the
:20:49. > :20:54.next day, Detective Inspector Fabian had brought the 20th century
:20:54. > :20:58.to the village, an RAF surveillance plane shot across the countryside,
:20:58. > :21:02.providing high resolution photographs of the surrounding area.
:21:03. > :21:07.The images were so detailed, they even picked out the bloodstains on
:21:07. > :21:11.the trampled grass. Fabian's detectives began to plot the
:21:11. > :21:15.movements over the previous 24 hours of every last resident in the
:21:15. > :21:19.surrounding area. But this was where Fabian's cutting-edge
:21:19. > :21:25.technology was brought to its knees by a village determined to keep a
:21:25. > :21:28.secret. By the end of the week, Fabian had interviewed all 493
:21:28. > :21:38.villagers. He was troubled by their reluctance to talk, except about
:21:38. > :21:41.
:21:41. > :21:47.the failure of that year's harvest. He was also met by a collective
:21:47. > :21:53.silence when he entered the local pub. But 66 years on, people are
:21:53. > :21:59.still talking about why Fabian was stonewalled by the entire village.
:21:59. > :22:03.Graham Saunders was a child at the time. I remember groups of men
:22:03. > :22:10.going from house to house in the village, with clipboards, wearing
:22:10. > :22:18.long, dark overcoats and trilby hats. Why do you think people said
:22:18. > :22:21.nothing? The people of Lower Quinton did not like to think that
:22:21. > :22:26.this could happen in the village, and I think that is the reason why
:22:26. > :22:33.they just shut up. Why do you think this happened? I believe that it
:22:33. > :22:37.was an outsider. There's little to remember Charles Walton by today.
:22:37. > :22:40.Even his headstone is missing from the graveyard. But it was a case
:22:40. > :22:46.which Fabian could not forget, because modern forensics had failed
:22:46. > :22:50.him. Fabian was convinced that the villagers knew the answer, but
:22:50. > :23:00.would take it to their graves. These are the last words in his
:23:00. > :23:07.
:23:07. > :23:15.The case is not yet closed. A remarkable story, I'm delighted to
:23:15. > :23:24.say that the grandson of Fabian has joined us in the studio. Now, he
:23:24. > :23:32.was a remarkable policeman. Yes, when I was a boy, he was the first
:23:32. > :23:34.TV detective, a national hero. Back in 1939, Fabian of the Yard was at
:23:34. > :23:40.a police station in the West End and there was an explosion at
:23:40. > :23:44.Piccadilly. It was an IRA bomb that had detonated. He went into it, he
:23:44. > :23:49.defused the bomb himself, single- handedly, and became a national
:23:49. > :23:54.hero. Robert Fabian received two awards, the King's Medal for
:23:54. > :23:59.gallantry, the other, an intriguing award, where he got a note saying,
:23:59. > :24:04.please come to this pub. He turned up at a pub, and there were
:24:04. > :24:11.London's underworld, saying, or we would like to salute you for the or
:24:11. > :24:15.bravery, this is from the boys. And he got this cheque. This cheque was
:24:15. > :24:24.given to my grandfather by the police reward for an for this
:24:24. > :24:28.wonderful gallantry for �15. He did not cash it? No, he put it in the
:24:28. > :24:32.book. Because he felt it was part of his line of duty, he was doing
:24:32. > :24:37.this because that is what a copper should do. He was a really famous
:24:37. > :24:42.copper. He had two maxims. What was his favourite? To be a good copper,
:24:42. > :24:46.you have got to think like a criminal. And he did know the
:24:46. > :24:50.underworld. What was the second one? I don't know, what was the
:24:50. > :24:55.second one? To be a successful copper, you have got to be married
:24:55. > :25:01.to the job. Yes, and unfortunately, that meant that his marriage was
:25:01. > :25:08.not all that successful, either. One of those things. Thanks over so
:25:08. > :25:11.much for coming in. Another great Scottish comedian, Billy Connolly,
:25:11. > :25:20.walked off stage after being heckled recently. So, Kevin, just
:25:20. > :25:30.for you, we have come up with this... Get on with it! All right,
:25:30. > :25:38.calm down, here it comes. You will have to heckle better than that,
:25:38. > :25:43.mace, or your face is going to be settled. What was that? Well, that
:25:43. > :25:53.was the joke, but... But obviously, I did not know I was in a double
:25:53. > :25:56.
:25:56. > :26:00.act. Life as a stand-up comedian is not always funny... Rubbish! In
:26:00. > :26:09.alone on stage in front of an audience leaves you open to abuse.
:26:09. > :26:16.Get on with it? But is heckling all pot of the job? Do we do what Billy,
:26:16. > :26:22.he did recently, and just enjoy routine early? Get off! There's a
:26:22. > :26:27.lot of stupid people in the world - you're all of them. You look at
:26:27. > :26:32.someone, they're all going, off, off. Then you look at someone else,
:26:32. > :26:38.doing the same thing. Then I looked at the back, and my wife was going,
:26:38. > :26:42.off, off. She was trying to get me off, because I was dying. I started
:26:42. > :26:46.doing some stuff which people had been laughing at, I was told, in
:26:46. > :26:51.the dressing room. One girl at the front whispered to her friend, he
:26:51. > :26:56.has lost it. And I heard that, that's how quiet it was in the room,
:26:56. > :27:01.and all my confidence left me. should something be done about
:27:01. > :27:05.hecklers? This man runs a successful comedy club in Scotland.
:27:05. > :27:11.How do you feel about Billy Connolly? There is a world of
:27:11. > :27:17.difference between audience interaction, a bit of report, and
:27:17. > :27:22.on the other hand, somebody setting out to just interrupt and be
:27:22. > :27:27.abusive and disruptive, which is what heckling is, so I think Billy
:27:27. > :27:35.Connolly has got a fur point. worst ever one I had was from my
:27:35. > :27:40.aunty. Up in Scotland, I got heckled by a dog. You could just
:27:40. > :27:45.put your hand up and go, you're rubbish. As long as you engage with
:27:45. > :27:51.him, and make out that he's the idiot, not you, then you're going
:27:51. > :27:59.to win. I love the way you say that. I think it can be good, heckling,
:27:59. > :28:08.because it can tighten up your material. You hear a heckler, is it
:28:08. > :28:12.a good thing? No, it puts it down on their Act. It puts them off.
:28:12. > :28:16.have to be honest with you, I am genuinely staggered by what
:28:16. > :28:22.happened in there, because the majority of comedy fans, paying
:28:22. > :28:28.punters, actually want to see comedians being heckled, and
:28:28. > :28:34.they're quite disappointed if they do not deal with it. So, Kevin,
:28:34. > :28:38.what's your process, have you got lines ready just in case? No, I
:28:38. > :28:44.always try and take it as an individual. It is a bit of a myth
:28:44. > :28:49.that you get a funny heckles, it is always just a drunk guy. One guy,
:28:49. > :28:54.as soon as I walked on stage and he found out I was Scottish, he called
:28:55. > :29:01.me a porridge Goblin. That made me laugh. Just something to break it
:29:01. > :29:07.down and make it part of my act. So I asked him basically what it meant.