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:00:20. > :00:30.Are you happy with this one? It has been one of those nights! Welcome

:00:30. > :00:30.

:00:30. > :00:34.to The One Show with Chris Evans... And Alex Jones. Tonight, we are

:00:34. > :00:44.welcoming the victims of the big fish fight. In the blue corner, the

:00:44. > :00:54.EU. In the red corner, a man named Hugh. Guess he would won? He did! -

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:01:00. > :01:05.Lovely, lovely. Horsemeat, big news story. Almost unbelievable.

:01:05. > :01:10.Astonishing. What other suspicions do you harbour when it comes to

:01:10. > :01:14.mass produced food? Well, what this shows is that the supermarkets just

:01:14. > :01:17.have not got it under control when it comes to sourcing. They spend a

:01:17. > :01:22.lot of time and money telling us that they know where everything

:01:22. > :01:27.comes from, that tracing it is important, but it comes on the back

:01:27. > :01:31.of a story that fish were being mislabelled, one species for

:01:31. > :01:35.another. There is clearly a lot of work to be done. How can you not

:01:35. > :01:38.know that your lasagne is 100% of something other than you are

:01:38. > :01:42.telling people? How can you not know that? You would think,

:01:42. > :01:46.wouldn't he? The answer is that they are buying it from someone

:01:46. > :01:52.else that is making it for them, and they don't have a full control

:01:52. > :01:56.over that third party. If they are starting to sneak stuff in, it gets

:01:56. > :02:03.lost. Did you have any horsemeat in your freezer you did not know

:02:04. > :02:07.about? No. We didn't think that you would. What do you think about the

:02:07. > :02:11.hypocrisy of meat-eaters? Either you are vegetarian or eat meat.

:02:11. > :02:14.Saying that you just don't eat that kind of meat, it's quite

:02:14. > :02:19.hypocritical? The question of whether or not we should consider

:02:19. > :02:23.eating horsemeat is not what is being debated. Let's be given food

:02:23. > :02:29.that is clearly labelled and know what is in it. You could make a

:02:29. > :02:33.case for eating horsemeat, if the horse was well looked after. That

:02:33. > :02:36.comes first and foremost, higher animal welfare. It is outside our

:02:36. > :02:42.cultural register, but I would not condemn it out of hand. What I

:02:42. > :02:47.would condemn is selling one kind of meat as another. We had a case

:02:47. > :02:52.where how products were being served in prison, they had Paul Le

:02:52. > :02:58.Guen them. Unacceptable. It's having the choice? Knowing what is

:02:58. > :03:02.in the food. Is it calories or horse power? The news today is that

:03:02. > :03:07.400,000 frozen lasagnes have been recalled. But there must be tens of

:03:08. > :03:14.thousands still in people's freezers. We are asking who has got

:03:14. > :03:21.the most potential horse in their fridge tonight. Pile-up your

:03:21. > :03:25.lasagne and take a picture. It's the great UK Frozen lasagne amnesty.

:03:25. > :03:31.Are you going to keep them, returned them, put them on eBay?

:03:31. > :03:35.What are you going to do? Lots of options. It's not often a seven-

:03:35. > :03:41.year-old managers to clean out his mum's bank account in minutes. But

:03:41. > :03:44.these days, all it takes is one little finger.

:03:44. > :03:49.Imagine if your child managed to spend more than �1,000 of your

:03:49. > :03:54.money in less than one hour, just by playing a video game. It is a

:03:54. > :03:57.scary thought, but it can happen. There was a time when the idea of

:03:58. > :04:04.playing a video games on your phone would have seemed like the stuff of

:04:04. > :04:10.science fiction. But with 39% of us now owning a smartphone, and 11% of

:04:10. > :04:16.UK households owning a tablet computer, downloading games from

:04:16. > :04:22.an' store is starting to become second nature. -- and app store.

:04:22. > :04:32.And many can be downloaded for free. But you do have to be careful.

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:04:33. > :04:39.Because there are sometimes very It was one of these free apps, a

:04:39. > :04:44.game called Monster Story, that allowed seven-year-old George to

:04:44. > :04:49.run up a monster bill on his mum's iPad. It looked like a young

:04:49. > :04:53.children's game. I put my password in, handed him the iPad and he was

:04:53. > :05:01.quiet. It wasn't until the next morning when I locked into my e-

:05:01. > :05:07.mail, the first thing I noticed was 34 e mails, invoices for �34.99

:05:07. > :05:14.each time. Forgive my maths, how much was that? Somewhere in the

:05:14. > :05:20.region of over �1,000. �1,000?! felt sick. What was he doing?

:05:20. > :05:26.said, can you show me again, what did he do? Did you buy anything? He

:05:26. > :05:30.started to say, yes, I got cold, I bought some monsters. It dawned on

:05:30. > :05:35.me. When you went to your password, you have a 15 minute window before

:05:35. > :05:42.you asked for it again. That is when he was clicking, by gold, by

:05:42. > :05:47.gold. Did he know it was real money? No. I bet that was a

:05:47. > :05:52.surprise? How much problem did that cause? I had my mortgage going out

:05:52. > :05:57.of the account. I had the council tax bill. They bounced instantly.

:05:57. > :06:01.The extra features that you can buy during the games are called in app

:06:01. > :06:09.purposes. They are very common. They often appear within the game,

:06:09. > :06:13.allowing you to unlock special powers or gain extra wards. --

:06:13. > :06:19.Awards. It may not be here when you are playing, especially if you are

:06:19. > :06:23.a child, that they cost real money. So, is it really fair for a game

:06:23. > :06:28.aimed at children to include the facility to buy extra features for

:06:28. > :06:35.real money? I am here at the guys who represent the UK gaming

:06:35. > :06:39.industry to see if they think this is above board. Why to so many of

:06:39. > :06:44.them have these purchases? Making the game is a real craft, somebody

:06:44. > :06:47.has to pay for that scale. A isn't it's just about making money?

:06:47. > :06:52.of people enjoy playing games so much that they want extra content

:06:52. > :06:56.and they are willing to pay for it. It is a consumer choice. Is it fair

:06:56. > :06:59.to have these purchases in games that are targeted at children?

:06:59. > :07:05.industry takes its responsibility towards children very seriously.

:07:05. > :07:10.All devices have parental controls. On some, you can say no to any such

:07:10. > :07:14.purchases that your child might make. Luckily for Clare, Apple

:07:15. > :07:19.agreed to a fund the deal that George racked up, as a goodwill

:07:19. > :07:27.gesture. She has taken steps to make sure that he cannot do it

:07:27. > :07:32.again. I now have my restrictions in place a very tightly. He cannot

:07:32. > :07:39.buy anything. What do you think of the ability to rack up that amount

:07:39. > :07:44.of money in a children's game? shocked that it is legal. There is

:07:44. > :07:48.no kind of cap on it, there is no warning. This game is not based on

:07:48. > :07:52.skill, to make any progress. It is based on how much money you are

:07:52. > :08:02.prepared to spend. The fact it is aimed at children is what makes me

:08:02. > :08:06.

:08:06. > :08:11.Game over, indeed. Have any of your kids done anything similar? They

:08:11. > :08:15.have been reasonably sensible, up until now. The thing about kids and

:08:15. > :08:20.smart phones, they are as smart as the phones, as adults, we are not

:08:20. > :08:29.smart enough to use them. My one- year-old nephew can use my iPhone.

:08:29. > :08:35.Who called you on your phone when this happened? I was on a boat in

:08:35. > :08:40.the South Atlantic, making the new series of Hugh's Fish Fight. I got

:08:40. > :08:44.a call from the office. My partner told me that we had had the fire

:08:44. > :08:48.the night before. Absolutely devastating. I was halfway around

:08:48. > :08:52.the world and there was nothing I could do. They at is the River

:08:52. > :08:57.Cottage? That is our main cooking area, the demonstration thing where

:08:57. > :09:04.we render the cookery courses. year on, where are you at? We are

:09:04. > :09:08.well on the way we do rebuild. -- with the rebuilt. We only lost a

:09:08. > :09:13.couple of weeks of business. We created a tented site. We have read

:09:13. > :09:20.everything we do, full on, in the normal way from a fantastic sight.

:09:21. > :09:25.In a way, that is more fun? It has given us a whole new dimension.

:09:25. > :09:29.it a grease fire? They call it the perfect fire, don't they? We think

:09:29. > :09:34.it was started by an electric spark. But it was so hot that there was

:09:34. > :09:38.little left to show what caused it. You get the grill, you get some oil

:09:38. > :09:45.on the flames, it shoots up and the extractor fan pulls the flame

:09:45. > :09:47.through. Because that is covered in grease, 15 seconds, it goes up.

:09:47. > :09:53.Hugh is about to pick another fight with the British government. But

:09:53. > :09:57.he's not the only one. We I in a fish war with Iceland and the Faroe

:09:57. > :10:01.Islands. Sarah Mack has been to the front line.

:10:01. > :10:05.The UK fishing fleet catches more mackerel than any other species.

:10:05. > :10:10.But a bitter international disagreement over quotas has meant

:10:10. > :10:14.it losing its place on the list of sustainable fish. It's a decision

:10:14. > :10:20.with potentially huge consequences for both the fishing industry and

:10:20. > :10:24.consumers. Cheap, tasty, sustainable and very good for you.

:10:24. > :10:31.Until recently, mackerel was the ideal fish to eat regularly. But is

:10:31. > :10:35.it now off the menu? In the last few weeks, the Marine Conservation

:10:35. > :10:41.Society downgraded mackerel from its fish to eat list, saying it

:10:41. > :10:45.should now only be consumed occasionally. Two significant blows

:10:45. > :10:48.to the Scottish mackerel industry in recent times. The Marine

:10:48. > :10:54.stewardship Council have taken away their sustainable accreditation,

:10:55. > :11:01.the sustainable take, and yourselves have taken it off the

:11:02. > :11:06.fish to eat list. Why did you do that? Since 2009, too many are

:11:06. > :11:09.being taken out of the north-east Atlantic stock. A lot of the reason

:11:09. > :11:15.is that the stock has moved north and west into Icelandic waters and

:11:15. > :11:18.those parties are removing too much mackerel. How seriously is this

:11:18. > :11:24.going to affect the consumer? consumer can still eat mackerel.

:11:24. > :11:29.Just occasionally, we are advising. There was also a stock of

:11:29. > :11:33.accredited mackerel still available on the shells for some time to come.

:11:33. > :11:37.But the advice has angered some people, especially here in Scotland.

:11:37. > :11:45.This processing plant is one of the biggest in Peterhead. Bosses here

:11:45. > :11:48.are concerned. That's a devastating message, for us. We are

:11:48. > :11:53.disappointed, because it is no fault of our own that we are being

:11:53. > :11:59.affected by this crisis. Who is to blame? Iceland and the Faroe

:11:59. > :12:03.Islands. Because they are out of control in terms of fishing, it is

:12:03. > :12:07.putting Howard Dobbs and the public, able to eat the fish, in jeopardy.

:12:07. > :12:11.-- putting our jobs and the public in jeopardy. We are worried that

:12:11. > :12:14.jobs are going to be affected, and if it becomes unsustainable, if

:12:14. > :12:20.that happens, supermarkets decide they cannot sell it, what will

:12:20. > :12:26.happen is that we will lose market. The Faroe Islands and Iceland will

:12:26. > :12:30.not. Trade sanctions are now on the table. But A war war might backfire.

:12:30. > :12:37.Much of the Icelandic and Faroe Islands catch of other fish is

:12:37. > :12:41.actually landed and processed in Britain. It's vitally important to

:12:41. > :12:45.towns like this. North-east Atlantic mackerel is hardly the

:12:45. > :12:49.first fish to show worrying signs of overfishing. It has now joined

:12:49. > :12:55.the three-quarters of worldwide stocks that either declining or

:12:55. > :13:01.being fished beyond sustainable level. We have concerns with other

:13:01. > :13:04.stocks and still do. Some, such as haddock, still concerns about

:13:04. > :13:09.stocks of cod. We have a range of fish we advise people avoid. There

:13:09. > :13:16.is good news as well, many stocks are healthy such as North Sea

:13:17. > :13:21.herring and sardines. North Sea haddock is healthy. There are lots

:13:21. > :13:31.of fish still on the list to week. We would ask consumers to look at

:13:31. > :13:31.

:13:31. > :13:36.our good fish list. That must have made you furious? Very frustrating.

:13:36. > :13:40.A few years ago we were saying we should ask people to eat more

:13:40. > :13:44.mackerel. You were telling us! Exactly. And it is a solvable

:13:44. > :13:48.problem. It is a political problem. It's not that people eating too

:13:48. > :13:53.much, it's that the politicians cannot agree the quotas. This is

:13:53. > :13:56.the beginning of a campaign. Delia Smith said in the paper that she is

:13:57. > :14:03.retiring from television, she will go online because she is fed up

:14:03. > :14:08.with a lot of chefs on television. All this campaigning, get back in

:14:08. > :14:13.the kitchen and start cooking. How do you react? I began life as a

:14:13. > :14:18.journalist, really. I'm not really from the kitchen. I have never been

:14:18. > :14:24.a restaurant chef. Campaigning is what interested me. As long as...

:14:24. > :14:28.Delia Smith has done a wonderful job of educating the nation how to

:14:28. > :14:37.Cook. But there is more to food than how you put it together. There

:14:37. > :14:41.are consequences in how you shot and what you eat. That fascinates

:14:41. > :14:45.made. It's almost celebrity campaigners? I guess you are

:14:45. > :14:51.looking at one. You are on the trail a brand new campaign, that

:14:51. > :14:55.starts Thursday on Channel 4. it is Hugh's Fish Fight again. A

:14:55. > :14:58.brand new campaign, three completely new shows. What we are

:14:58. > :15:02.focusing on is the need for more marine protected areas. At the

:15:02. > :15:07.moment, just a tiny fraction of the sea around the UK is fully

:15:07. > :15:11.protected from all forms of fishing. Not very match is protected from

:15:11. > :15:14.the most damaging forms of fishing. We have made a bunch of films about

:15:14. > :15:19.this. Both about the UK and about marine conservation issues around

:15:19. > :15:29.the world. We can see you looking at a healthy sea bed? This is you,

:15:29. > :15:44.

:15:44. > :15:49.This is me diving. All the little indents on the

:15:49. > :15:53.seabed, they are done by scallops. Some are almost dinner plate sized.

:15:53. > :16:01.Where was that and tell us what you found around the corner? Well, that

:16:01. > :16:07.was in the Isle of Man. That's what a healthy seabed is meant to look

:16:07. > :16:12.like. I dived on a piece of ground which had been scallop dredged and

:16:12. > :16:16.there is nothing there for scallops. It is like a desert under the

:16:16. > :16:21.water? That's the only word you can think of. How long does it take for

:16:21. > :16:25.that to happen? Not long. It might take a year or two of regular

:16:25. > :16:27.dredging, but the main damage is done quickly and if it happens

:16:27. > :16:32.repeatedly that's what you are left with.

:16:32. > :16:36.And this is the dredger here. This is the destroyer as it were? Yes,

:16:36. > :16:39.that's the piece of kit that's used to dredge for scallops that does so

:16:39. > :16:45.much damage. It is so basic and horrible. There

:16:45. > :16:49.is millions of years of nature being wiped by away by a horrible

:16:49. > :16:54.piece of metal? We are not campaigning to ban scallop dredging.

:16:54. > :16:58.We want sensible zoning. Areas that are protected and what we found out

:16:58. > :17:02.in this film in the Isle of Man, they have got one of the best

:17:02. > :17:08.scallop fisheries in the UK because they protect certain areas and

:17:08. > :17:10.leave them off limits. It is like crop rotation? Yes.

:17:10. > :17:13.Hugh, good luck with the new campaign.

:17:13. > :17:19.Thank you very much. Hugh is the only celebrity chef.

:17:19. > :17:28.May we ask you to help us launch our next cook-off? Of course.

:17:28. > :17:36.Here is one of our fish people! APPLAUSE

:17:36. > :17:41.We are looking for the best chilli in the UK. We are. Will it be meat,

:17:41. > :17:46.veggy, and we want it to be unbeatable... And horse free.

:17:46. > :17:51.Tell us about your tips? Well, a couple of tips if you are making a

:17:51. > :17:55.good chilli, get a little bit of pork as well as the beef, not

:17:55. > :18:05.horse! And fresh spices if you can chop a

:18:05. > :18:05.

:18:05. > :18:12.fresh green chinly that has sweetness and aroma. This is one of

:18:12. > :18:18.recipes. You were too ill to make it. That's beautiful.

:18:18. > :18:25.One of the kids took the morning off to make it. Well done, Luky.

:18:25. > :18:30.you think your res your recipe is unbeatable, tell us why at

:18:30. > :18:34.oneshowfood@bbc.co.uk. Send us a picture of yourself by

:18:34. > :18:44.Wednesday, 13th February. The terms and conditions are on the website.

:18:44. > :18:44.

:18:44. > :18:54.A good good chilli corn con Carney is hard to beat. When it was

:18:54. > :18:57.launched in 2004, The Queen Mary 2 was the most expensive passenger

:18:57. > :19:02.liner built. Today I have been invited on board by the crew as

:19:02. > :19:07.they honour a man who played a huge role in the life of Cunard's luxury

:19:07. > :19:15.liners and there is a culinary treat lined up for him to help him

:19:15. > :19:20.relive his ocean going German chancellorries.

:19:20. > :19:24.Commodore Ron Warwick has captained this ship and The Queen Mary 2. His

:19:24. > :19:29.father Bill had been the first captain of the QE2 when it launched

:19:29. > :19:34.in 1969. My father was in command and he

:19:34. > :19:38.invited me aboard for lunch and I went on board this great, new ship.

:19:38. > :19:41.It was only in service a few months. I thought well, if you have got to

:19:41. > :19:47.go to sea, the QE2 is the ship to go on.

:19:47. > :19:52.Now, you had a very important guest the first time you took command of

:19:53. > :19:55.the QE2? Yes, I did indeed, that was Her Majesty the Queen and The

:19:55. > :20:01.Duke of Edinburgh. Was that a nerve-wracking

:20:01. > :20:07.experience? I didn't have time to think about it. My focus was on the

:20:07. > :20:12.ship and the safety of it and the dock operations when we came in to

:20:12. > :20:19.Southampton. Commodore Warwick was chief officer

:20:19. > :20:23.of the QE2 when it had to be converted into a troop ship for

:20:23. > :20:29.transporting British forces to the Falklands. We had been in a refit.

:20:29. > :20:35.We spent a vast amount of money updating and all of a sudden these

:20:35. > :20:42.chaps came aboard with metal cutters and cut bits away. It was,

:20:42. > :20:49."What is happening to our ship? ". It took eight day to say con --

:20:49. > :20:54.days to convert the ship and that's the hardest hours I worked. Those

:20:55. > :20:58.eight days, we had to convert the rooms to accommodate the troops.

:20:58. > :21:05.They took the artwork off and the valuable paintings. They took

:21:05. > :21:10.things like caviar off which was unkind of them, I thought!

:21:10. > :21:14.While the troops on the QE2 may have missed out on luxuries, on its

:21:14. > :21:18.replacement, the QM 2, 3,000 paying passengers demand the highest

:21:18. > :21:21.standards. How different is it cooking on a

:21:21. > :21:25.liner as opposed to a high end restaurant off shore? If you look

:21:25. > :21:30.at where you are, you are based in one mini city or mini town and

:21:30. > :21:34.everything that you need is on board, but the logistics of getting

:21:35. > :21:38.the the items on board to make sure we have enough food.

:21:38. > :21:44.Because you can't just pop down to the shop.

:21:44. > :21:47.They are re-creating the menu from when the QM 2 first launched

:21:48. > :21:51.especially for Commodore Warwick, his wife and invited friends. You

:21:51. > :21:57.would always eat with the passengers? Most nights on the

:21:57. > :22:03.trance attic, except the first night. You would have different

:22:03. > :22:07.guests each dinnerpm. What sorts of guests? Lots of regular passengers.

:22:07. > :22:11.Sometimes you would get a message from a friend who had a friend

:22:11. > :22:21.coming. We have four courses, including

:22:21. > :22:26.

:22:27. > :22:31.duck, pheasant, lobster and loin of beef and this muse fondant -- --

:22:31. > :22:35.moose fondant. What sort of memories does this meal bring for

:22:35. > :22:41.you? The grandeur of it, really. To know that people are still

:22:41. > :22:46.enjoying this type of occasion. Yes.

:22:46. > :22:53.Sadly for me, my my cruise is over before we have left the docks side,

:22:53. > :23:02.but it has been great to be aboard for the tribute to Commodore

:23:02. > :23:06.That was one of the best TV shots of a a salt and pepper set.

:23:06. > :23:14.A lovely meal. Commodore Warwick is a lovely man.

:23:14. > :23:19.I love him to to bits. He might be catching! The QE2 was sold to Dubai,

:23:19. > :23:23.but there has been bids to bring her back? Yes. We want to talk

:23:23. > :23:30.about the QE2 London bid. There are a business consortium, they are

:23:30. > :23:35.investors and they want to bring her back to London and dock her by

:23:35. > :23:40.The O2. Could she be a hotel? yes. It would make sense being

:23:40. > :23:45.close to The O2. Go and have a fun night out.

:23:45. > :23:51.Back to the bid. Weddings. Entertainment. That's all

:23:51. > :24:01.great and interesting, but none of this is as important as Angellica

:24:01. > :24:02.

:24:02. > :24:04.Bell, she is having another one, everybody!

:24:04. > :24:14.APPLAUSE I am here to pro dust the --

:24:14. > :24:14.

:24:14. > :24:20.produce The One Show babies! Michael Douglas' cunning interview

:24:20. > :24:27.technique. Ah, seagulls, when I hear their call, I think of donkey

:24:27. > :24:32.rides, ice creams and sanny beaches -- sandy beaches, but I'm not at

:24:32. > :24:36.the seaside and I'm not Hague a paddle -- I'm not having a paddle

:24:36. > :24:40.in this. Today I'm enjoying the delights of a landfill site in

:24:40. > :24:43.Ipswich. And the brave souls who work here deal with all this

:24:44. > :24:48.horrible stuff we don't even want to think about. I have come to give

:24:48. > :24:55.them a treat. This is Steve and he works here in amongst all of this

:24:55. > :25:02.stuff. My main role is driving the bulldozer. Have you got CB radios

:25:02. > :25:05.and you talk to each other, "I just found a seagull.". Yes. We have got

:25:05. > :25:09.CBs. How much bigger will have hill get?

:25:09. > :25:12.Another two or three meters. And then what happens? We have to

:25:12. > :25:16.cap it off. And it rots away, does it? That's

:25:16. > :25:22.right. We take the gas out as well because landfill produces gas.

:25:22. > :25:25.What's the weirdest thing you found here then, Steve? We have had like

:25:25. > :25:30.a little cat or something come out of the bin.

:25:30. > :25:34.An alive cat? Yes. You never had your haircut here before?

:25:34. > :25:43.definitely not. Take a look. Excellent. Very good.

:25:43. > :25:46.He said excellent. It is not rubbish is it? Definitely not!

:25:46. > :25:50.You know those people who have picnics in a nice park and leave

:25:50. > :25:54.their rubbish everywhere, they should be forced to come and have a

:25:54. > :25:58.picnic up here, shouldn't they? The last time anybody worked it out, it

:25:58. > :26:04.was estimated across the UK a combined area the size of Warwick

:26:04. > :26:11.was given over to landfill, but we are becoming more aware of our

:26:11. > :26:16.rubbish problem. Karen is a busy mum who blogs about reducing

:26:16. > :26:20.household waste. Give us some tips. Choose the top five things that

:26:20. > :26:25.fill your bin and see if you can find alternatives to slim that down.

:26:25. > :26:28.My problem was food waste. So we reduced the portions. It is all

:26:29. > :26:35.about you know thinking about when you buy something, how much rubbish

:26:35. > :26:43.is this going to create? I always think how good is this going to

:26:43. > :26:45.taste? LAUGHTER

:26:45. > :26:48.We used to throw away a full typical average sized wheelie win

:26:48. > :26:52.every two weeks. We got down to about a carry bag's worth of

:26:52. > :26:56.rubbish every month. You are joking! I don't believe

:26:56. > :26:59.that! It took me by surprise.

:26:59. > :27:08.Take a look. My god that is brilliant. It really

:27:08. > :27:12.is. Thank you. There is a lot going on to try and

:27:12. > :27:16.reduce the amount of waste that goes into land fill. So many

:27:16. > :27:21.landfill sites in the UK now have recycling centres as well. I can't

:27:21. > :27:28.believe the size of it in here, it is massive. And just how fast they

:27:28. > :27:33.are working. It is like a sushi restaurant, but dirty!

:27:33. > :27:37.Danny works in the recycling plant. How many weeks worth of stuff is

:27:38. > :27:42.behind me? Four or five days worth. You are joking?

:27:42. > :27:49.Really? Yeah. Blimey! This has got to be sorted

:27:49. > :27:54.out? Yes, it goes through the machinery and into the cabins where

:27:54. > :27:58.the staff sort it by hand. The amount of material coming in is

:27:58. > :28:01.unbelievable. We recycling more material than we are sending to the

:28:01. > :28:03.landfill. That's a success story, is it?

:28:03. > :28:07.it is. I'm going to show you this and then

:28:07. > :28:11.you can put a hat on it. It will break my heart, but I will get over

:28:11. > :28:21.it! Take a look. How is that? fine.

:28:21. > :28:28.

:28:28. > :28:33.It's fine. He said it was fine. Thank you, Michael. The UK frozen

:28:33. > :28:39.lasagne amnesty. She has eaten and she has gone to bed.

:28:39. > :28:44.Ian has given it to the spaniel. Lisa Smith's colleague Nick, here

:28:44. > :28:51.she is horsing around with her lunch!