0:00:18 > 0:00:20Hello and welcome to The One Show with Matt Baker.
0:00:20 > 0:00:22And Alex Jones.
0:00:22 > 0:00:24Tonight's guest isn't just a great actor, he's
0:00:24 > 0:00:26a pretty handy musician too.
0:00:26 > 0:00:30He plays the drums, the piano and even the vibraphone.
0:00:30 > 0:00:38But, as they say, everyone's got their critics.
0:00:39 > 0:00:46Why not?
0:00:51 > 0:00:55He's still music to our ears, please welcome Max Beesley.
0:00:55 > 0:01:00APPLAUSE
0:01:02 > 0:01:07Very nice, much little girl telling me I'm not very good!How little is
0:01:07 > 0:01:13she?She is four, she is amazing, beautiful, diamond in my eyes!She
0:01:13 > 0:01:20does not like your piano playing! She is big on Mozart.It was a bit
0:01:20 > 0:01:28basic for her?I bet she loves the drums.She does, she is very good.
0:01:28 > 0:01:30Whatever she wants to get into, I will back it.
0:01:30 > 0:01:32Your daughter's not the only woman in charge, Max.
0:01:32 > 0:01:34Also joining us tonight is Lieutenant Colonel Lucy Giles,
0:01:34 > 0:01:38the first female commander at Sandhurst.
0:01:38 > 0:01:44And we'll be meeting someone whose life was transformed by this.
0:01:44 > 0:01:48Your daughter might like this. You can find out how later.
0:01:48 > 0:01:53First, tosomething that affects us all -
0:01:53 > 0:01:58how to care for loved ones in later life.
0:01:58 > 0:02:01It's a difficult issue, with reports today of understaffing
0:02:01 > 0:02:02in social care services across the country.
0:02:02 > 0:02:04Negotiating this complex system can be draining and expensive.
0:02:04 > 0:02:07We asked broadcaster Iain Lee, and his mum Linda,
0:02:07 > 0:02:07to share their story.
0:02:09 > 0:02:13I'm the first to admit that in my job I have a reputation for being a
0:02:13 > 0:02:19bit gobby but one that I have in common with a lot of people is the
0:02:19 > 0:02:24struggle I face trying to sort out care for a close relative full in my
0:02:24 > 0:02:29case, Mike 67-year-old mum Linda. I'm off to up might mum, she had
0:02:29 > 0:02:34been living in this care home for 11 or 12 years and they look after her
0:02:34 > 0:02:38really well but recently we were faced with the issue that because of
0:02:38 > 0:02:43funding and money, she might have to move somewhere else which would have
0:02:43 > 0:02:51been a disaster. Say cheese. Mum was just 14 when she was diagnosed with
0:02:51 > 0:02:55MS. Up until then she had been a sharp-witted, loving mum who looked
0:02:55 > 0:03:02after us all her life.You were so sweet, what happened?!Munda does
0:03:02 > 0:03:06not qualify for continuing health care funding is under the social
0:03:06 > 0:03:09care system rules, as she owned her own house and had savings she had
0:03:09 > 0:03:15been paying to live in the home. You are brilliant at saving, you saved
0:03:15 > 0:03:24£100,000. You would squirrel it away.I know.Over the past 11 years
0:03:24 > 0:03:29she has spent a little under £350,000 on her care and last
0:03:29 > 0:03:34September her savings had gone down to just under £24,000. We had always
0:03:34 > 0:03:38been told that when she crossed that financial threshold, the council
0:03:38 > 0:03:42would step in and take over the payments and we believed that was
0:03:42 > 0:03:47what would happen. I think we were a bit naive. Look at those. I will
0:03:47 > 0:03:51never forget the moment the council called, telling me they would not be
0:03:51 > 0:03:55able to cover the cost of the home and would look to move mum to
0:03:55 > 0:04:00alternative, more affordable accommodation. I put the phone down
0:04:00 > 0:04:04and burst into tears and didn't have a clue what to do or who to turn to.
0:04:04 > 0:04:07I soon found out that the only person who's going to fight for
0:04:07 > 0:04:13month to stay at the home she loved was me. I basically had to act as
0:04:13 > 0:04:17the middleman between the Counsel and care home. It took a few weeks
0:04:17 > 0:04:21but eventually we all came to an agreement which meant mum could
0:04:21 > 0:04:25state. If I had not got involved, she would automatically have been
0:04:25 > 0:04:32moved out so my advice is, don't take it lying down. I really want to
0:04:32 > 0:04:35go and share my story and my experience with people and who
0:04:35 > 0:04:41knows, maybe even help one or two going through a similar thing. Today
0:04:41 > 0:04:46I have invited some experts to Reading's biggest shopping centre to
0:04:46 > 0:04:49help others facing similar challenges. Before we start I have
0:04:49 > 0:04:55some questions of my own. Explain this threshold and what it means.
0:04:55 > 0:05:03There is a financial threshold which is £23,250 which takes into account
0:05:03 > 0:05:08your property any capital savings you have and any income you have.
0:05:08 > 0:05:12When you hit that, the council will step in and take over responsibility
0:05:12 > 0:05:16but there is also an assessment of need, because if the council
0:05:16 > 0:05:21believes that another home can meet her needs safely for less money,
0:05:21 > 0:05:24they will offer to move her pulse if you live in Northern Ireland the
0:05:24 > 0:05:30threshold is the same but in the Scotland it is for the £6,000 and in
0:05:30 > 0:05:36Wales it is £30,000 -- 20 £6,000. Are they allowed to take in to
0:05:36 > 0:05:41account the savings of family members?Not at all, it would just
0:05:41 > 0:05:46be based on your mother's situation, her income and savings.And I are
0:05:46 > 0:05:50not the only one with questions. Martin is worried about his dad.If
0:05:50 > 0:05:55my mother needs care but my father doesn't, can the house disappear
0:05:55 > 0:05:58under father?They will only be based her charges on income and
0:05:58 > 0:06:05capital savings. If he goes into care, they will take the house into
0:06:05 > 0:06:09account.As for Katie Bond grandparents, they went into care
0:06:09 > 0:06:12together but after 60 years of marriage they found themselves
0:06:12 > 0:06:16having to live apart when a grandad's health deteriorated. Was
0:06:16 > 0:06:22there any offer, moving the wife in as well?Because the other home was
0:06:22 > 0:06:28a nursing home and my Nan did not meet the threshold for that.I am
0:06:28 > 0:06:32sure it was your responsibility, you put another bed in the room, don't
0:06:32 > 0:06:36you?If you're Nan needed to be with her husband, if that was something
0:06:36 > 0:06:39really important and it's difficult to imagine it wasn't, that is part
0:06:39 > 0:06:43of her care needs, she needed to be in the same place as him physically
0:06:43 > 0:06:46and if that meant there was a bit more cost involved, it should have
0:06:46 > 0:06:51been paid for.As the day draws to a close, what should we all be
0:06:51 > 0:06:58thinking about? Any tips?I would say to plan and it's never too early
0:06:58 > 0:07:03to start.I would seek advice, go to special adviser and make an informed
0:07:03 > 0:07:07decision.Talking to someone and planning ahead, advice I wish I had
0:07:07 > 0:07:10followed when mum first became ill, things that would have saved us a
0:07:10 > 0:07:13lot of heartache. Can you drive me into a pub?
0:07:13 > 0:07:16Thank you to Iain and Linda.
0:07:16 > 0:07:19We're keen to hear your stories too, so please get in touch
0:07:19 > 0:07:22if this issue affects you.
0:07:22 > 0:07:26The Department of Health and Social Care has told us
0:07:26 > 0:07:28they're investing more money and the government
0:07:28 > 0:07:31will soon propose changes to social care "to ensure it is
0:07:31 > 0:07:34sustainable for the future".
0:07:34 > 0:07:41Permaul information that is help on our website -- for more information.
0:07:41 > 0:07:47It is something you have talked about?It should be spoken about,
0:07:47 > 0:07:53morbid as it might sound, but funeral plans.Your will, all of
0:07:53 > 0:08:00that.We do think we're in fallible but were not, as we have seen. We
0:08:00 > 0:08:04speak about it, I speak about it and make sure the children are looked
0:08:04 > 0:08:08after and what I would like to happen to me if I passed away.It is
0:08:08 > 0:08:17important... Conversation is key. Proactive.On a slightly lighter
0:08:17 > 0:08:20note you're back and you could talk about the second series of James
0:08:20 > 0:08:28Down starting tomorrow on Sky One. And it's a double -- Jamestown.
0:08:28 > 0:08:32Bring us up to speed.
0:08:36 > 0:08:44Basically it is 1607 and it covers the story of the first settlers in
0:08:44 > 0:08:49Jamestown Virginia who came over from England, having led a pretty
0:08:49 > 0:08:54drab life in England and wanting a new experience in Jamestown but what
0:08:54 > 0:08:59they were faced with were horrific times, starvation and disease and
0:08:59 > 0:09:02illness and death. Half of the people that came over on the boats
0:09:02 > 0:09:14initially in 16 is died for that. -- in 1607.Even played a hard-working
0:09:14 > 0:09:19character with an interesting side. You have a big scar on your face.In
0:09:19 > 0:09:28the first season, I go up the Mounties to find gold because that
0:09:28 > 0:09:33is my ideal -- the Mount-Evans. There was tobacco on the plantations
0:09:33 > 0:09:37and that was the gold but he is convinced there is gold up there and
0:09:37 > 0:09:42I go with my brother who has an interest in my wife, which I had
0:09:42 > 0:09:47paid for, and that they love connection there and I fall asleep
0:09:47 > 0:09:53smoking a pipe with gunpowder and had blown up and he leaves me to
0:09:53 > 0:09:59die. He is a lovely brother!Here is a clip of you speaking in a way we
0:09:59 > 0:10:02have probably not heard you speaking before.
0:10:30 > 0:10:33If you refuse, there are more investment is it our favour and
0:10:33 > 0:10:37kindness.Do as the King wishes.
0:10:37 > 0:10:44APPLAUSE That was not Welsh as somebody in
0:10:44 > 0:10:49our production meeting said! It was Native American. How did you go
0:10:49 > 0:10:57about teaching yourself such a complex language?The production
0:10:57 > 0:11:02company Carnival make top end drama and they have put everything into
0:11:02 > 0:11:06Jamestown and Bill Gallagher is a phenomenal writer and they have the
0:11:06 > 0:11:11best historians and dialect coaches, costume and make-up and everything.
0:11:11 > 0:11:15All you need to do is spend time with these guys because they are at
0:11:15 > 0:11:21the top of their business and put the time in. But with that, that was
0:11:21 > 0:11:25one of the hardest things. It is not like French or Italian with male and
0:11:25 > 0:11:31female and sounds similar to English, it has not been spoken for
0:11:31 > 0:11:34a hundred years, there was a specialist who worked with us every
0:11:34 > 0:11:40day and we worked out we put in about a hundred manner into a Depor
0:11:40 > 0:11:47two or three page seemed -- a hundred man hours into a scene. You
0:11:47 > 0:11:54have to write all of it, listen to the other actors as well it is a
0:11:54 > 0:12:02challenge but watching it, I was quite impressed!You did all right!
0:12:02 > 0:12:05You have been working very hard at an actor but also as a musician,
0:12:05 > 0:12:12working on a new album.Yes, it used to be a profession for me as a
0:12:12 > 0:12:16youngster but it is a hobby now. October I thought I would put some
0:12:16 > 0:12:21tunes together. I had a list of people I wanted to work with, that I
0:12:21 > 0:12:26had worked with or aspired to work with. Eight out of the ten said yes
0:12:26 > 0:12:30which was wonderful and very blessed.How high profile are we
0:12:30 > 0:12:43going?Top notch. Robbie kindly agreed to do the album. Paul Weller,
0:12:43 > 0:12:48he sang one of the most important tunes, for my daughter.Did she like
0:12:48 > 0:12:58it?She is four and she knows all the lyrics! It is amazing. Paul did
0:12:58 > 0:13:03a great vocal, he is one of our best singers. Lisa Stansfield who I love.
0:13:03 > 0:13:09When is it out?Where finding a home for it right now so we will see and
0:13:09 > 0:13:11then get it out.Best of luck with it all.
0:13:12 > 0:13:14This week we've already met women who have blazed a trail
0:13:14 > 0:13:15in business and science.
0:13:15 > 0:13:16Tonight, the army.
0:13:16 > 0:13:18Soon we'll meet Lieutenant Colonel Lucy Giles.
0:13:18 > 0:13:20But first, here are the women who influenced
0:13:20 > 0:13:23the presenter of Woman's Hour.
0:13:29 > 0:13:32In Barnsley.
0:13:32 > 0:13:42I Jenny Macklin and my life began here, I lived it with my and my dad,
0:13:42 > 0:13:45with an electrician, she had to give up work because they did not have
0:13:45 > 0:13:49married women in those days. I was an only child so I was completely
0:13:49 > 0:13:56the focus of attention. She loved me but she didn't always entirely
0:13:56 > 0:14:01approve of me. I was not the pretty, polite, charming little girl that my
0:14:01 > 0:14:08mother had hoped I might be so I suppose all my life I was rebelling
0:14:08 > 0:14:13against the woman who ran this house, and at the same time
0:14:13 > 0:14:20desperately trying to please her. My mother's determination to mould me
0:14:20 > 0:14:25went as far as elocution lessons from the age of five. No risk of a
0:14:25 > 0:14:30Yorkshire accent. I did please her when I passed the 11 plus and went
0:14:30 > 0:14:36to her secondary school, Barnsley high school for girls. There I met
0:14:36 > 0:14:44another formidable influence, my French teacher. It was a thrill to
0:14:44 > 0:14:52meet her again some 50 years later. It is so good to see you.
0:14:52 > 0:14:55The school is now flats but inside there are a few reminders of the old
0:14:55 > 0:15:03days. If only the walls could talk. What do you remember of me?For you
0:15:03 > 0:15:11I remembered somebody who was extremely clever, more mature than
0:15:11 > 0:15:17most of the others and if you could detect some kind of appreciation in
0:15:17 > 0:15:23my comment on your work, that was something you enjoy it.I wanted to
0:15:23 > 0:15:31be patted on the head!Is a discreet way. As if we could exchange a wink
0:15:31 > 0:15:35and say, all right, but the others have said is fairly traditional and
0:15:35 > 0:15:40pedestrians but what I have said is a bit shocking and personal! And you
0:15:40 > 0:15:47enjoyed that.Another strong woman like my mother who inspired
0:15:47 > 0:15:50rebellion who I was also desperate to impress. Maybe a pattern was
0:15:50 > 0:15:54emerging here.
0:15:54 > 0:15:57Habermanat 18 I combined my interest in drama and French when I
0:15:57 > 0:16:03went to study at the University of Hull,it was there that I started to
0:16:03 > 0:16:10forge my own identity. I walked into the radio studio and I felt
0:16:10 > 0:16:16completely at home and I knew then that is what I wanted to do, it was
0:16:16 > 0:16:21not as sophisticated as it is now, of course. It is amazing that it
0:16:21 > 0:16:30started here, really, here I am, 67, still doing it. My career has taken
0:16:30 > 0:16:34me from BBC local radio to Newsnight and back to my beloved radio as
0:16:34 > 0:16:38presenter of woman's hour, and eventually I even went to Buckingham
0:16:38 > 0:16:44Palace to be made a Dame by the Queen. My mother died in 2006 would
0:16:44 > 0:16:50have been proud as punch. Enough talk of the past, let's talk about
0:16:50 > 0:16:55the future. I hope I can give some advice to the next generation of
0:16:55 > 0:17:01budding broadcasters with my One Show lecture at my old stomping
0:17:01 > 0:17:08ground. I will stick to the headlines. It is important to be
0:17:08 > 0:17:12persistent, it is important to be competent, don't let people put you
0:17:12 > 0:17:18down -- confident. Be willing and be the one who says, I can do that. And
0:17:18 > 0:17:25don't be afraid to start at the bottom. But be very bad at what the
0:17:25 > 0:17:33bottom requires a view. The impressive -- requires of you. And
0:17:33 > 0:17:41keep on keeping on. LAUGHTER STUDIO: Very wise words.
0:17:41 > 0:17:42Thank you, Jenni.
0:17:42 > 0:17:45We're joined now by someone who has served in Iraq,
0:17:45 > 0:17:46Afghanistan, Bosnia, Sierra Leone and Northern Ireland
0:17:46 > 0:17:49and is the first ever female college commander at Sandhurst -
0:17:49 > 0:17:51Left-tenant-Colonel Lucy Giles.
0:17:51 > 0:17:57APPLAUSE Lovely to see you.You have no
0:17:57 > 0:18:03military background, your parents were not from the military?I was
0:18:03 > 0:18:07from Somerset and went to my local comprehensive school and went to
0:18:07 > 0:18:11university and had a retrospective gap year which meant I did know what
0:18:11 > 0:18:17I wanted to do. My experience at the University training Corps sowed
0:18:17 > 0:18:24seeds and my friend Alison said, just get on and join the Army, and
0:18:24 > 0:18:28because it is the challenge and the travel which sounds quite cliched
0:18:28 > 0:18:33but it was the people actually that drew me to the service and it has
0:18:33 > 0:18:40been great ever since.26 years now, how has the perception of women
0:18:40 > 0:18:45changed and the treatment of women changed?I have seen a lot of
0:18:45 > 0:18:51change. When I first joined you had to leave if you were pregnant and if
0:18:51 > 0:18:55you were gay you had to leave, you were disciplined, in fact, if you
0:18:55 > 0:19:06were gay, and we have got on with that and got rid of it. Maternity
0:19:06 > 0:19:10and paternity arrangements are now fantastic and we are a stone wall
0:19:10 > 0:19:14100 company and are part of an organisation which has just got a
0:19:14 > 0:19:20triple Ofsted, so very proud to be part of that.We have seen how
0:19:20 > 0:19:23inclusive the adverts have come, but maybe the young girls they still
0:19:23 > 0:19:29associated with something that is ruled by men, what would you say to
0:19:29 > 0:19:34young women who are scared of applying?They just need to go for
0:19:34 > 0:19:41it. I've got a daughter and if she wanted to be in the Army I would
0:19:41 > 0:19:46say, apply, there are so many different things and there is a good
0:19:46 > 0:19:53five, if that makes sense. -- a good fibre. Very positive role models out
0:19:53 > 0:19:58there and we had six mating ladies who just cross Antarctica -- six
0:19:58 > 0:20:05amazing ladies. How amazing is that? If anyone feels a bit fearful about
0:20:05 > 0:20:09joining, I'm going to Chinese then, if they are keen to come, I will
0:20:09 > 0:20:16host them at Sandhurst -- I'm going to challenge them. Just e-mail me
0:20:16 > 0:20:21and it will get there and we will show you what we do.EU are,
0:20:21 > 0:20:24training offices -- Hee Young
0:20:27 > 0:20:34-- here you are, training new offices, why has it taken so long?
0:20:34 > 0:20:40The important thing it is practically bare, and we need to get
0:20:40 > 0:20:46the physical standards so that we are not inadvertently breaking
0:20:46 > 0:20:51anybody, but here we are, I'm confident we will have women serving
0:20:51 > 0:20:56in the infantry next year -- the important thing, it is practically
0:20:56 > 0:21:02here.We could speak to you all night.It is lovely being here, and
0:21:02 > 0:21:11I want to say hello to my son and daughter, Alex and yes. -- Jess.We
0:21:11 > 0:21:17are very pleased to have you here. And for everything you do.
0:21:17 > 0:21:20Thank you Lucy - undoubtedly a pioneer in your own right,
0:21:20 > 0:21:22but there have been many pioneers throughout British history.
0:21:22 > 0:21:24Joe's been looking back at 400 years of British
0:21:24 > 0:21:25imagination and invention.
0:21:25 > 0:21:29The holograms used on our bank cards on the first computer memory, what
0:21:29 > 0:21:36do they have in common? They are protected by British patents. To
0:21:36 > 0:21:40celebrate 400 years of British patents a series of photographs has
0:21:40 > 0:21:45been taken to highlight the ingenuity of the vengeance. -- of
0:21:45 > 0:21:54the inventions. What is the point of a patented?To protect someone's
0:21:54 > 0:22:00unique idea, really, if you have an idea and it will be of value to you
0:22:00 > 0:22:05and the community, you want to protect it.400 years ago we had the
0:22:05 > 0:22:10first one, what was it for?A method of engraving and printing maps, but
0:22:10 > 0:22:15we can't show you a map where they have used this process.What are the
0:22:15 > 0:22:27valuable ones?Pfizer made £109 billion.109 billion! If I want my
0:22:27 > 0:22:33invention to remain secret, can I do that?Every single pate and that is
0:22:33 > 0:22:37filed today goes by the Ministry of Defence -- every single patents but
0:22:37 > 0:22:44the if they think it is a danger to the country, it may not be published
0:22:44 > 0:22:50for 20, 30 years.Incredible. These days thousands of patents are
0:22:50 > 0:22:56granted every year, everything from this children's the folds on this
0:22:56 > 0:23:01water bottle.
0:23:02 > 0:23:04water bottle. The national media and science museum in Bradford is home
0:23:04 > 0:23:16to one of the most controversial inventions, the Seattle gaffe.
0:23:16 > 0:23:18inventions, the Seattle gaffe.It was invented by Robert Paul and it
0:23:18 > 0:23:21can be considered to be the beginnings of the cinema industry
0:23:21 > 0:23:26within Britain at this point.But Paul wasn't the first to project
0:23:26 > 0:23:31moving pictures in Britain, and his old business partner Bert acres has
0:23:31 > 0:23:36beaten him to it with his device. The pair had previously worked
0:23:36 > 0:23:39together to design a film camera but the partnership had only lasted six
0:23:39 > 0:23:47weeks.Acres paintings in the camera, a similar one, in his own
0:23:47 > 0:23:52name, cutting Paul out of the work they had done together -- patented.
0:23:52 > 0:23:57Even though acres got there first, Paul had the last laugh. With films
0:23:57 > 0:24:08like this of the 1896 apps and the, Paul's see films became a big
0:24:08 > 0:24:11success -- 1896 apps and the.
0:24:14 > 0:24:20Others show the first beta blockers and artificial silk and Portland
0:24:20 > 0:24:27cement, all of which have had British patents.We are trying to
0:24:27 > 0:24:32create a body of work which demonstrates the imagination behind
0:24:32 > 0:24:35invention and then we tried a visualise this into a interesting
0:24:35 > 0:24:43image and bring it to life or people all over the world to
0:24:44 > 0:24:51all over the world to understand -- for people.The caption being
0:24:51 > 0:24:58photographed here is the grip on rugby balls.
0:24:58 > 0:25:01rugby balls. Ted wants to capture the way a game of rugby flows
0:25:01 > 0:25:06smoothly as a result of this invention.That is looking very
0:25:06 > 0:25:12nice.The images they have created will be circulating across the
0:25:12 > 0:25:15world, it is a imaginative and distinctive way of showcasing the
0:25:15 > 0:25:19incredible innovation that has come out of Britain over the last 400
0:25:19 > 0:25:28years. STUDIO: That will be a great display.
0:25:28 > 0:25:29And one of Britain's ingenious inventors joins us
0:25:29 > 0:25:32now - Mandy Haberman.
0:25:32 > 0:25:38The Female Inventor of the Year. Because of these cup designs. Added
0:25:38 > 0:25:47these come to be? -- how did.I've done a number of inventions, in what
0:25:47 > 0:25:50turned me from being a graphic designer and a mother to being an
0:25:50 > 0:25:56inventor was having children. I can thank my kids for this. Our youngest
0:25:56 > 0:25:58daughter was born with problems and she was fed with achievement which
0:25:58 > 0:26:06went up her nose and she had that for about four months -- she was fed
0:26:06 > 0:26:11with a
0:26:12 > 0:26:14with a tube. Miss assesses
0:26:17 > 0:26:21assessor team was the mother of invention, if you like. Mashed
0:26:21 > 0:26:24necessity was the mother.
0:26:24 > 0:26:30If I had not got into the renting thing, I got the bug, and I realised
0:26:30 > 0:26:33I was the
0:26:36 > 0:26:42-- if I had not got into the inventing thing, I got the bug, and
0:26:42 > 0:26:49I realised I was looking at other children and they needed that cup.
0:26:49 > 0:26:55It was the anyway up cup and it was a big success.When you designed the
0:26:55 > 0:27:03cups, you went to many David and Goliath court cases with the big
0:27:03 > 0:27:09boys and managed to win.Yes. The way the market works, if you have a
0:27:09 > 0:27:19technology which disrupts the status quo and technology changes the
0:27:19 > 0:27:24market, and we had a 40% share
0:27:24 > 0:27:25quo and technology changes the market, and we had a 40% share, and
0:27:25 > 0:27:32so the existing companies thing, who is this, -- think, who is this
0:27:32 > 0:27:36question not they challenge the patented and come up with the
0:27:36 > 0:27:43infringements and then it is down to the paint and owner -- patent owner
0:27:43 > 0:27:46to see if they will force their rights and it was a difficult
0:27:46 > 0:27:53decision. You can lose everything. But I did it because I felt I
0:27:53 > 0:27:56couldn't live with myself if I'd do something about it. It all turned
0:27:56 > 0:28:04out wonderfully.Here you are to tell the tale. Max, you are an
0:28:04 > 0:28:11immense? -- inventor.Of course will
0:28:11 > 0:28:19I did have an idea once. Instead of having a tanning bed... Stand-up
0:28:19 > 0:28:27tanning beds. You are in there, but check this out, at every resort,
0:28:27 > 0:28:37instead of it being tubes, it is 30 factor, with all the jets coming
0:28:37 > 0:28:44out, how annoying is it putting all your cream on? You close the door
0:28:44 > 0:28:49and say, number 30 please, and in the dryer drives you and then you
0:28:49 > 0:28:55put on your pants and you go out.I don't know what to say.How was
0:28:55 > 0:29:01that?They already out there.
0:29:01 > 0:29:05That's your lot for tonight - thanks to Mandy, Lucy and Max -
0:29:05 > 0:29:08Jamestown returns tomorrow, 9pm, Sky One.
0:29:08 > 0:29:11Tomorrow Jeremy Vine and I will be joined by John Simm
0:29:11 > 0:29:13and the stars of new Marvel film, Black Panther.
0:29:13 > 0:29:16See you tomorrow!
0:29:16 > 0:29:21Good night.