09/10/2012

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:00:19. > :00:24.Hello and welcome to the The One Show with Matt Baker and Alex Jones.

:00:24. > :00:28.Tonne, we are joined by a blond bombshell who really knows how to

:00:28. > :00:34.shake those hips! LAUGHTER

:00:34. > :00:43.Not that one! Not that one. No! LAUGHTER

:00:43. > :00:49.That was brilliant. It's Zoe Ball. CHEERING

:00:49. > :00:55.It had to be done. Very good. do you think, Boris for Strictly?

:00:55. > :00:59.would love to see Boris on Strictly. Boris Johnson doing the rumba. Is

:00:59. > :01:06.that something we really need to see, I am not sure? He would have

:01:06. > :01:08.something to say to the judges, but his speech at kich conference today

:01:08. > :01:16.was -- Conservative Party Conference was funny.

:01:16. > :01:26.I was pleased to see that you called me a blond haired mop. If I

:01:26. > :01:30.

:01:30. > :01:34.am a mop then Dave you are a broom and your colleague George Osborne,

:01:34. > :01:41.the dustpan. Every single chocolate hobnob in the world is made in

:01:41. > :01:44.London! It is actually true!

:01:44. > :01:49.It is incredible. You never ever know what you are going to get.

:01:49. > :01:55.There has been so much interest in Boris that the papers came up with

:01:55. > :01:58.a new term, they are calling it Borismania. Are people outside the

:01:58. > :02:03.media bubble as interested in him as the press would have us believe.

:02:03. > :02:06.We went to Hamilton in Glasgow to find out.

:02:06. > :02:11.I don't think he would make a good Prime Minister because I don't

:02:11. > :02:17.think people take him seriously. is a character, you know, but as a

:02:17. > :02:21.Prime Minister, I couldn't imagine it. I think he would be an idiot.

:02:21. > :02:26.I think he needs a haircut. But he is a good people person. He knows

:02:26. > :02:29.how to work a crowd. They all seem as bad as each other

:02:30. > :02:33.so what difference does he make? have been a Labour supporter and if

:02:33. > :02:38.I was going to vote for Tory I would vote for him.

:02:38. > :02:43.I think he is a person of fun and humour. Whether I would trust him

:02:43. > :02:48.or not would be a different story. A mixed bag there.

:02:48. > :02:51.Indeed, Justin is here now. Justin, is Boris, do you see him as a

:02:51. > :02:57.liability or an asset for David Cameron? That's a loaded question,

:02:57. > :03:04.isn't it? I think at the moment, it has got to be, it has got to be...

:03:04. > :03:10.A long long pause! He has got to be an asset. He is popular and not

:03:10. > :03:16.just with the Tory Tory grass-roots. This is a man who won a second-term

:03:16. > :03:19.as London mayor when the Tory party were doing badly in the polls and

:03:19. > :03:25.David Cameron called him a rockstar saying, "I want more people like

:03:25. > :03:30.him in the party." He is a bumbling funny man, he can laugh off almost

:03:30. > :03:35.anything. Yet behind that, people who know him say he is strategic

:03:35. > :03:40.and ambitious and remember, he has never ruled out a leadership bid.

:03:40. > :03:46.So, he is an asset, but if he was ever to challenge David Cameron he

:03:46. > :03:51.would become a big liability to him. He does deny he wants to be Prime

:03:51. > :03:57.Minister? He sort of denies. He said would he be a better leader

:03:57. > :04:01.than David Cameron? He says that's unverifiable.

:04:01. > :04:07.But Zoe, zuneg he could be a -- do you think he could be a Prime

:04:07. > :04:09.Minister? I find that idea terrifying!

:04:09. > :04:12.LAUGHTER You know, I hope not, you know. But

:04:12. > :04:17.I'm not going to get into politics right now because I might have a

:04:17. > :04:23.rant. Brighton, it was home to the Lib

:04:23. > :04:29.Dems. Does Brighton change a lot? It was quiet actually I have to say.

:04:29. > :04:36.I didn't see a lot of people around. They set-up the barriers. I drive

:04:36. > :04:40.past and think, "Who goes to it?". Membership is down, isn't it?

:04:40. > :04:45.Membership of of political parties is down massively. In the 50s the

:04:45. > :04:51.Tories had 2.8 million members and Labour had over one million members

:04:51. > :04:56.and now they are struggle to get 200,000, but add together, Labour,

:04:56. > :05:03.Lib Dems and the Tories, they have less than half of the one million

:05:03. > :05:10.members the caravan club has! Those divisions that used to define

:05:11. > :05:15.the parties that used to make you say, "I am Labour, I am Tory" have

:05:15. > :05:18.evaporated. A lot of people think hover you vote for -- whoever you

:05:18. > :05:22.vote for doesn't shape the Britain we live in anymore.

:05:22. > :05:25.Is Is this the end of the conference season? No. There is one

:05:25. > :05:29.more. The SNP are having their conference in Perth on Thursday

:05:29. > :05:35.next week. Last week you went up to the Labour

:05:35. > :05:39.Labour Conference? I saw a similar picture. It was quieter. We wanted

:05:39. > :05:41.to go and find out how ordinary people viewed these party

:05:41. > :05:44.conferences. Let's have a look.

:05:44. > :05:48.You turn if you want to. Party conferences have been the

:05:48. > :05:52.launchpad for some of the most defining moments in political

:05:52. > :05:57.history. The lady is not for turning.

:05:57. > :06:04.Scenes of elections and debates, of contests and dramas.

:06:04. > :06:09.And you end in the grotesque chaos of a Labour Council, a Labour

:06:09. > :06:11.Council hiring taxis to scuttle around a city, handing out

:06:11. > :06:19.redundancy notices to its own workers.

:06:19. > :06:22.A place to air your grievances, make key policy decisions and make

:06:22. > :06:26.statements. Go back to your constituency and

:06:26. > :06:29.prepare for Government. The party conference season is

:06:29. > :06:31.almost over. They have been rallying their troops and

:06:31. > :06:37.rehearsing their battle cries. There are cheers and applause for

:06:37. > :06:42.the big set piece speeches, but say conference regulars, something is

:06:42. > :06:46.missing. Across the UK's political parties, conference goers are

:06:46. > :06:51.asking, "Where is the passion of old?". That's what I'm going to

:06:51. > :06:55.negotiate for and I ask the conference to support me.

:06:55. > :07:01.Attendance at party political conferences was at its peak in the

:07:01. > :07:04.late 1990s. In 1997, 25,000 people are estimated to have attended the

:07:04. > :07:10.Labour Party Conference alone. This year, Labour and the Lib Dems

:07:11. > :07:14.together only attracted 16,000. So what has changed? Back in the day,

:07:14. > :07:18.30 years ago, there were decisions in conference which were lively and

:07:18. > :07:22.that really mattered and that were going to change the world and make

:07:23. > :07:28.a big difference to people's lives. You were making history happen on

:07:28. > :07:32.the conference floor and that that mattered. Neil Lawson is a party

:07:32. > :07:40.conference regular. There is less people. There are a lot of empty

:07:40. > :07:45.stands. They are trade fairs. You are kind of rent a mob.

:07:45. > :07:49.Does the conference literature back this up? I have pro shures from

:07:49. > :07:55.this year's -- brochures from this year's party conferences and look

:07:55. > :07:59.at these from 20 years ago. In 1992, the conference agenda seemed to

:07:59. > :08:03.take up the whole brochure, now it is it is reduced to a page, the

:08:03. > :08:13.rest is used as advertising space or exhibition information. These

:08:13. > :08:16.

:08:16. > :08:18.days, they look more like trade fair pamphlets, there there seems

:08:18. > :08:22.to be less debail out and discussion, less opportunity for

:08:22. > :08:29.ordinary members to get involved. These days you would be forgiven

:08:29. > :08:33.for thinking that party leaders are more interested in hearing from the

:08:33. > :08:36.lobbyists who can pay up to �1500 to be there.

:08:36. > :08:39.People interested in doing politics for a living. People really want to

:08:39. > :08:43.get involved, they are interested, but they are bored with the

:08:43. > :08:47.political menu being served up by the three parties.

:08:47. > :08:52.Conferences are big money spinners these days. Last year, the

:08:52. > :08:58.Conservatives conference income was over �4 million. The Lib Dems was

:08:58. > :09:01.over �1.5 million. There is people selling suits in there. Selling

:09:01. > :09:03.suits? LAUGHTER

:09:03. > :09:07.At a party conference? At a party conference.

:09:07. > :09:08.It is focused on what we really need if we are going to win a

:09:08. > :09:11.general election and that's what we want.

:09:11. > :09:18.It is difficult to get an exciting conference because the next

:09:18. > :09:21.election is years away. I share most members frustration that there

:09:21. > :09:27.isn't more policy. For some the party conference

:09:27. > :09:32.season is a major event on the political kal calendar. Conference

:09:32. > :09:36.performs a different function to it did in the 70s and 80s, it is less

:09:36. > :09:41.a forum for arguing about policy and initiating policy and more a

:09:41. > :09:45.Forum for presenting parties to a wider public.

:09:45. > :09:52.Thank you very much, Justin. A few questions who goes to those

:09:52. > :09:55.and what goes on inside? We are so pleased It Takes Two is back!

:09:55. > :10:02.It is so exciting. This evening, Alex was trying to

:10:02. > :10:06.run in and out of the dressing room to watch the rehearsals.

:10:06. > :10:14.haven't interviewed your dad. is on the show tomorrow night. I

:10:14. > :10:20.went to the studio on Saturday night and know I know -- now I know

:10:20. > :10:26.how our families felt. I had clammy palms when I saw him go up to the

:10:26. > :10:30.balcony, I needed to pace. He says he wasn't nervous, but I think he

:10:30. > :10:35.did look nervous. Have you been trying to throw loads

:10:35. > :10:38.of information at him? When he told me he was doing it, it was my uncle

:10:38. > :10:43.Paul's 60th birthday party and he called me into the office and he

:10:43. > :10:48.said, "I have been waiting to tell you this." I thought, "Oh my

:10:48. > :10:53.goodness, he is ill." He said, "No, it is worse. I'm doing Strictly

:10:53. > :10:59.Come Dancing." I was like, "What?" Oh brilliant because he has so much

:10:59. > :11:07.energy and he would call me. I only knew a couple of weeks ago. He

:11:07. > :11:10.would go "OK, this is a quickstep and I am hopping on one foot for a

:11:10. > :11:14.minute-and-a-half." I am like, "It is going to be fine." Bless him,

:11:14. > :11:21.yeah. Week one is down, done and dusted.

:11:21. > :11:25.Would you say your your dad is an embarrassing dad? Not now.

:11:25. > :11:29.We caught up with him. Look at this and you might change your mind.

:11:29. > :11:32.Hi, Zoe, do you remember remember when I came up to Manchester when

:11:32. > :11:37.you were working there or nots working there and I took you to a

:11:37. > :11:43.restaurant and you were eyeing the waiters as they went past. I crept

:11:43. > :11:49.my hand over the table and put my han on my hand on yours and you

:11:49. > :11:55.realised what I had done and you went, "It's me dad."

:11:55. > :12:02.That's brilliant. That's brilliant. He held my hand and when the waiter

:12:02. > :12:06.came up, he said, "I am know I am 50 and you are 19, but why can't it

:12:06. > :12:08.work?" LAUGHTER

:12:08. > :12:12.We don't think he embarrassed himself on Saturday. What did you

:12:12. > :12:17.think? I thought he did really well. I was relieved it was over and he

:12:17. > :12:22.got through it and he didn't make mistakes and he had a difficult

:12:22. > :12:26.time because Aliona hurt her foot. When the judges, I actually, I

:12:26. > :12:30.don't think I heard what Craig said because I was just so relieved it

:12:30. > :12:37.was over and Len said he has given the oldies... He is on the moves.

:12:37. > :12:44.He is on the beat there. As long as he doesn't sing-along! Craig said

:12:44. > :12:47.don't do singing! No, he didn't embarrass me. I was really proud of

:12:47. > :12:52.him. Considering, it was the first week,

:12:52. > :13:00.when everybody was a bag of nerves like Victoria Pendleton.

:13:00. > :13:05.The cha-cha is a hard one. Once it is gone, it is gone. That recovered

:13:05. > :13:10.and the doubt sets in your head, but she will be back. She is an

:13:10. > :13:16.Olympian and she is amazing. Watch her, she will be fantastic.

:13:16. > :13:22.This is the thing... You are like the shoulder to cry on, aren't you?

:13:22. > :13:26.When it gets, because it is intense, Strictly, but with It Takes Two you

:13:26. > :13:33.can come down and pour your heart out? You know what people are going

:13:33. > :13:38.through. Like Jason Donovan, "Take vitamins, you will be fine.".

:13:38. > :13:45.calm down. But what about Lisa Riley? She is at the top of the

:13:45. > :13:51.leaderboard. I had a feeling about those two. My dad said watch Lisa.

:13:51. > :13:55.I noticed Craig said something disparaging like "good luck." The

:13:55. > :13:58.energy when they walked out on to the floor. She is amazing, but it

:13:58. > :14:00.is like you never know until you see people dance how the

:14:00. > :14:04.partnership is working and there are some partnerships you will

:14:04. > :14:11.never forget like Russell and Flavia and look at these two, I

:14:11. > :14:21.think they're going to do amazing. Look at her. She is so sexy as well.

:14:21. > :14:27.

:14:27. > :14:30.And... Can you imagine the American I think it's a good thing. You get

:14:30. > :14:36.to have them compared to Richard Foster of it is judged on that

:14:36. > :14:42.performance, isn't it? You did the dance off INEOS series? I never had

:14:42. > :14:48.to. But it was in the series? Usually at that point people go, we

:14:48. > :14:53.are going, we are going. Hopefully it will add a bit more drama.

:14:53. > :14:56.Takes Two is back on weekdays at 6:30pm on BBC Two.

:14:56. > :15:02.We wanted to make sure that Zoe is not the only person being

:15:02. > :15:12.embarrassed by her dad tonight. We have three more, all prepared to

:15:12. > :15:14.

:15:14. > :15:19.Strictly Dad Dancing is coming up next. Before that, here is a

:15:19. > :15:22.brilliant bit of Strictly gossip. There is one contestant in this

:15:22. > :15:25.year's competition, she has a secret passion that can only be

:15:25. > :15:34.satisfied by going into the woods in the dead of night. I heard about

:15:34. > :15:39.this. It seems that Fern Britton can't get enough of bats.

:15:39. > :15:44.We know that she likes to chat, but what is not commonly known is that

:15:44. > :15:53.she is batty about bats. So, where does your interest start,

:15:53. > :15:58.childhood? Yes, but not by seeing Real bats. It is because I read

:15:58. > :16:02.Dracula. The electrifying picture of him turning into a bat, climbing

:16:02. > :16:07.up the castle windows, standing at the window with his huge wings.

:16:07. > :16:11.Terrifying, but fantastic. It became that romantic, scary debt.

:16:11. > :16:17.Your home county, Buckinghamshire, is a real hot spot for them. It's

:16:17. > :16:23.really exciting. The area of burn wood forest is bat

:16:23. > :16:29.central, with some of the biggest, smallest and rarest all living here.

:16:29. > :16:34.John Hodgkins helps to monitor these small mammals. There's about

:16:34. > :16:38.13 species as a whole. It's a high number, there are only 18 species

:16:38. > :16:43.in the country. So, for this particular bit of forest, it's

:16:44. > :16:48.really good. What is it that they like about this bit? There is still

:16:48. > :16:53.a lot of ancient wood land. That is what they are lighting, lots of

:16:53. > :16:57.insects for eating as well. Because this woodland is so vital for bats,

:16:57. > :17:05.they are monitored very closely, being caught during the summer and

:17:05. > :17:11.early autumn to see which species are present. But delicate bats need

:17:11. > :17:14.a delicate system. It is called Harper trapping. A speaker sent out

:17:14. > :17:22.social calls. They are at a frequency well outside of our

:17:22. > :17:28.hearing range. They are too concerned about there being another

:17:28. > :17:33.bat in the area. They don't notice them, they hit them gently and

:17:33. > :17:39.slide down. It's like a lobster pot. And it doesn't hurt? I have watched

:17:39. > :17:43.it happen and it is quite gentle. There are a lot of midges, that's a

:17:43. > :17:48.good thing, because they will be out. To minimise disturbance, they

:17:48. > :17:57.only catch them for an hour and a half. They checked the traps every

:17:57. > :18:02.There we go, we have got a bat, that side. There is another one,

:18:02. > :18:08.down the bottom. We will get some bags and get them out. It's just

:18:08. > :18:17.like Christmas, because we have no idea what is in the bag. Our first

:18:17. > :18:26.bat. It is a brown, long eared bat. You can see those enormous ears.

:18:26. > :18:32.Look at him! Oh, my God. It's like Dobbin. This is the ear, and the

:18:32. > :18:36.bits sticking out? It is another part of the ear, returning

:18:36. > :18:45.echolocation back into them. next one is one of Britain's

:18:46. > :18:51.smallest. You can see, straight away, the face is very different.

:18:51. > :18:58.They are tiny. They are as small as little field mice. Like a harvest

:18:58. > :19:03.mouse. With wings! Over 90 minutes, we catch nine from three different

:19:03. > :19:13.species, including one of Britain's largest. As soon as they are

:19:13. > :19:17.

:19:17. > :19:24.measured, weighed and tracked, they Jo this has been a wonderful

:19:24. > :19:28.evening. It has been absolutely thrilling. There she goes! I am so

:19:28. > :19:34.thrilled that I felt that they were magical, to meet them and know that

:19:34. > :19:44.they really are, there is a real charm about them. You do fall in

:19:44. > :19:48.

:19:48. > :19:55.love with them. Not like Dracula at As we said before the film, for one

:19:55. > :20:02.night only we are going to be hosting Strictly Dad Dancing.

:20:02. > :20:06.musical sting and everything! We have three dancing dads and three

:20:06. > :20:16.more to five children. But who is the daddy of embarrassing dancing?

:20:16. > :20:18.

:20:18. > :20:24.We don't have the glitter ball, for I bet you cannot wait to get your

:20:24. > :20:34.feet into does. Let's meet our first contestant. This is Robin

:20:34. > :20:42.

:20:42. > :20:47.She refuses to dance with him, so she dances -- he dances around the

:20:47. > :20:55.house when her friends are over. says he has his own special bust a

:20:55. > :21:00.All of the contestants have chosen their own music, which probably

:21:00. > :21:10.makes it worse. Robin is going to be dancing to Billie-Jean, by

:21:10. > :21:46.

:21:46. > :21:56.I don't think any amount of therapy Especially because he's wearing a

:21:56. > :22:04.

:22:04. > :22:09.Our second contestant is Carlton Whitaker from Blackburn. And his

:22:09. > :22:13.16-year-old son, Alex. Alex is studying at ballet school and you

:22:13. > :22:17.want to be a professional dancer. Have you given him any tips, or are

:22:17. > :22:23.you going to do as Latin freestyle and hope for the best? He seems to

:22:23. > :22:33.think I got my moves from him. But I think I got them from my mother.

:22:33. > :22:56.

:22:57. > :23:06.So, Robin got seven. His Carlton higher or lower? He is higher, he

:23:07. > :23:09.

:23:09. > :23:13.One more to come after this next film. Can we bear it? It's time for

:23:13. > :23:21.a bit of upwardly-mobile gardening. This is actually better than

:23:21. > :23:24.Strictly! Anyway, now we get to see a vertical garden with lofty

:23:24. > :23:29.ambitions. During the Troubles in Northern

:23:29. > :23:33.Ireland's, they began directing so- called peace walls to separate

:23:33. > :23:38.amenities that could not live side- by-side. There were 88 of them,

:23:38. > :23:44.mostly in Belfast, covering 17 miles. Nearly 45 years on, they are

:23:44. > :23:47.still here. But with the Troubles in the past behind us, at least

:23:47. > :23:54.there is talk of bringing them down. Just around the corner in east

:23:54. > :24:00.Belfast, they created a new living garden wall. 500 square metres in

:24:00. > :24:09.size, utilising nearly 7000 plants. This living wall is about bringing

:24:09. > :24:15.It was created by a local community group called the East Belfast

:24:15. > :24:18.Mission, down the side of their new centre. The building will provide a

:24:18. > :24:24.shared space for both Protestant and Catholic families to enjoy

:24:24. > :24:30.together. I'm keen on gardening, but what possessed you to put a

:24:30. > :24:35.garden up there? Well, this is a very heavily built-up area. One of

:24:35. > :24:39.the ways we wanted to regenerate it was by introducing green space that

:24:39. > :24:44.was capable of being used by all parts of our community here. We

:24:44. > :24:48.have introduce retail units, we have a cafe. All sorts of community

:24:48. > :24:52.facilities, where people can meet, as a way of bringing people

:24:52. > :24:57.together. We will have a cup of tea by the green wall, we will fall in

:24:57. > :25:02.love by the green wall. It's very impressive, can we have a look? Not

:25:02. > :25:10.a simple walk out the back door. To attend this garden, you have to go

:25:10. > :25:17.50 metres up. This is all good fun! In a special lift like this one, a

:25:17. > :25:21.cherry picker. Gravity rules out soiled beds staying in place for

:25:21. > :25:28.the plants and flowers to take root. Instead, they dared them into a

:25:28. > :25:36.specially designed, man made felt. The whole wall is covered in this

:25:36. > :25:40.felt. They were grown in individual pots and the whole route was taken

:25:40. > :25:45.out and inserted into the pocket. All that is there is the

:25:45. > :25:53.established bulb, popped into a packet of felt? Look at the

:25:53. > :26:03.beautiful plants, geraniums, gorse, honey suckle. Right at the top,

:26:03. > :26:03.

:26:03. > :26:08.good old Irish word blind. -- would bind. Very much a Gaelic theme.

:26:08. > :26:13.What we have tried to do was replicate the Irish landscape. The

:26:13. > :26:22.geraniums are meant to represent fields. Then, running the full

:26:22. > :26:27.length of the wall, Irish hedgerows. What we have got is the Irish

:26:27. > :26:30.landscape, replicated in to the inner city, on the wall. Belfast

:26:30. > :26:37.get more than its fair share of rain fall. But at this 90 degree

:26:37. > :26:41.angle, the plants cannot rely on it to keep them watered and fed.

:26:41. > :26:47.Instead, a computer controlled irrigation system pumps rainwater

:26:47. > :26:51.and vital nutrients to the plants by pipes running 15 metres high.

:26:51. > :26:55.Built into the wall are plenty of sensors that measure the moisture

:26:55. > :27:01.content, they measure the health of the various plants. We can monitor

:27:01. > :27:09.that by computer. We can adjust it, depending on the weather, how much

:27:09. > :27:14.rain we have had, etc. This system managers all of us. So, the poor

:27:14. > :27:20.old gardener, with his finger, is now redundant! In an area where

:27:20. > :27:24.walls have such a negative meaning in the past, what about this one?

:27:24. > :27:32.think it's absolutely fantastic. It brings a nice bit of green to a

:27:32. > :27:36.rather dull road. It's a green place. It's almost the city centre.

:27:36. > :27:40.It's really nice. I think anything in this country that moves us

:27:40. > :27:44.forwards is fantastic. The work at rebuilding the community is going

:27:44. > :27:48.to take place inside the centre. But it's a garden wall that has got

:27:48. > :27:58.people talking around here. This is one garden that has laid down its

:27:58. > :28:00.

:28:00. > :28:04.The atmosphere in here is incredible. It is time for the

:28:04. > :28:09.final Strictly Dad Dancing competitor. Who would will get

:28:09. > :28:13.their hands on this lovely slipperball? Is it possible for

:28:13. > :28:19.Kevin Eggleston from Somerset and his 15-year-old daughter, Chelsea,

:28:19. > :28:23.to be awarded 10? Can that be done? Considering he has chosen Little

:28:23. > :28:33.Mix as his song, it is quite a random choice. All of your teachers

:28:33. > :28:51.