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:00:18. > :00:25.Hello and welcome to The One Show with Alex Jones. And Matt Baker.

:00:26. > :00:31.Just as the weather turns unseasonably mild, we have gone for

:00:32. > :00:37.the full deepfreeze look. We have got penguins and robins all over the

:00:38. > :00:41.place. And a bare behind. It is cold for a bare behind but we have got

:00:42. > :00:46.one. Would you be surprised if we told you that a peer of the realm

:00:47. > :00:51.has been involved in a major political scandal? Thankfully, this

:00:52. > :00:58.one has only written a musical about it. Please welcome Lord Andrew Lloyd

:00:59. > :01:04.Webber. Alex and I have had a easy weekend. How does this compare? It

:01:05. > :01:08.is freezing in here. Are these things ice? They will not catch fire

:01:09. > :01:16.well they? It has to be a constant -6 in here. Well let's get the show

:01:17. > :01:25.going. What is the Andrew Webber grotto like? Is your tree up? What

:01:26. > :01:29.colour scheme do you have? I always love a tree because the family love

:01:30. > :01:37.a big Christmas tree but we do decorations with cards. We turn the

:01:38. > :01:43.Christmas cards into something. Just cards hanging? People will be

:01:44. > :01:49.sending them in in their droves. And you have got a brand-new musical

:01:50. > :01:52.out, talking about the Profumo scandal but rocked Britain 50 years

:01:53. > :01:57.ago which we will talk about later in the show. First there is a new

:01:58. > :02:04.supermarket being opened on high Street with some ten think bargains.

:02:05. > :02:09.350 grams of orange cream chocolates which were part of the cancelled

:02:10. > :02:16.order should be ?4 but will be yours for just ?1 19. 200 grams of stem

:02:17. > :02:24.ginger cookies, the recommended retail price is ?1 69, yours for

:02:25. > :02:28.29p. That is an 83% discount. Bargain. But there is a catch. The

:02:29. > :02:35.shop is only open to a select group of 500 people. Tony Livesey has been

:02:36. > :02:38.to find out why. Meet Brian, Sue and John.

:02:39. > :02:42.They have three things in common. They are from South Yorkshire. They

:02:43. > :02:50.all live on benefits. And once they have paid their bills, they each

:02:51. > :02:56.have about ?30 a week to live on. It gets a bit touch and go. I would

:02:57. > :03:02.love to shop at Iceland but we have not got that opportunity round here.

:03:03. > :03:07.I was fined at the beginning of the second week of my benefits it is

:03:08. > :03:13.running down very fast. That is about to change. The UK's first

:03:14. > :03:16.social supermarket is opening. 500 people who are living on benefits

:03:17. > :03:20.and already registered for this scheme will be able to come here and

:03:21. > :03:25.buy supermarket brands at heavily discounted prices. The products on

:03:26. > :03:28.the shelves are here because they cannot be sold to the main

:03:29. > :03:33.supermarkets, either because they are out of season, in perfect or

:03:34. > :03:38.they simply had too much of them. But they will not be out of date.

:03:39. > :03:42.They are perfectly fit for consumption. This one, when it went

:03:43. > :03:48.through the manufacturing process, it got weighed and it does not wait

:03:49. > :03:51.quite the right amount. This has gone on for years and factories

:03:52. > :03:54.where workers have been able to buy cheap goods from the shop floor for

:03:55. > :03:58.similar reasons. The company which operates many of these factory shops

:03:59. > :04:04.is trying to broaden that out for shoppers who are short of cash. It

:04:05. > :04:09.is called company shop and it has given Sarah Dunwell the chance of

:04:10. > :04:12.making this work. Social supermarkets are common across the

:04:13. > :04:17.rest of Europe. If you work in a factory, it has always been

:04:18. > :04:21.practised that you can buy that product. We want to take that out

:04:22. > :04:27.onto the high Street and instead of selling it to in factories, sell it

:04:28. > :04:33.to people in food poverty. How'd you set your prices? We aim for a third

:04:34. > :04:37.of retail prices. We keep a focus on household essentials so people can

:04:38. > :04:41.start to build up a store cupboard of things which you and I take for

:04:42. > :04:44.granted. But not everyone is happy about the idea of this cheap food

:04:45. > :04:51.only being available to people on benefits. The local Salvation Army

:04:52. > :04:55.say they have seen a 500% increase in food parcel distribution compared

:04:56. > :05:00.to this time last year, to people from all kinds of backgrounds. We

:05:01. > :05:06.are getting more and more people who are literate, educated, working

:05:07. > :05:09.really hard part time but what they receive with benefits and part-time

:05:10. > :05:13.workers not enough to feed their families. I am concerned because I

:05:14. > :05:19.am not sure whether the community shop will cater for those type of

:05:20. > :05:22.people. It is something which we knew would be challenging. Everybody

:05:23. > :05:29.in Goldthorpe would like to have a card. This is a pilot so we do not

:05:30. > :05:32.know what the answers yet. This trial paves the way for another 20

:05:33. > :05:36.social supermarkets across the country. For now, if you are not one

:05:37. > :05:40.of the few allowed to do your shopping here at these knock-down

:05:41. > :05:49.prices, you might be forgiven for feeling a bit envious.

:05:50. > :06:01.How much have you spent today? About ?4. On two big bag. On that is good.

:06:02. > :06:06.I feel happier, less stress and less worried and I can have a little bit

:06:07. > :06:12.of what I fancy. What kind of savings do you think you will make?

:06:13. > :06:17.About 30 to ?40 a week on what we generally spend. That is a big

:06:18. > :06:20.difference? Yes. If I had been allowed I could have walked out of

:06:21. > :06:29.there with some nice treats and a big family shop. At least, 500

:06:30. > :06:34.families are going to be able to do something they have not done before,

:06:35. > :06:38.fill a basket and do what many of us take for granted.

:06:39. > :06:42.On the face of it, it does seem like a win-win situation but as you

:06:43. > :06:49.alluded to at the end of the film it has divided the community? Yes,

:06:50. > :06:52.there are people in work who say they should be allowed to shop

:06:53. > :06:56.there, why should people on benefits get another benefit? And a lot of

:06:57. > :07:01.will on benefits who are outside the geographical area said they wanted

:07:02. > :07:08.in Oz well. They did not want to be on camera. But that is good news to

:07:09. > :07:14.have people who want to shop there? They have had to limit it to 500

:07:15. > :07:17.because it is a pilot and they have an educational hub above the

:07:18. > :07:20.supermarket, teaching people cookery and dealing with interviews because

:07:21. > :07:26.their aim is to get deeper into work and off benefits. The people who

:07:27. > :07:31.have the cards, if their circumstances change, do they have

:07:32. > :07:36.to give the card back Esmat yes, they are reassessed in six months

:07:37. > :07:39.and of their supermarkets change day have to give the card back and that

:07:40. > :07:47.will free up a place for someone else. It is a commercial company

:07:48. > :07:53.behind this venture but they say every penny will go back into the

:07:54. > :07:58.community. It seems to be a win-win situation. Our supermarkets going to

:07:59. > :08:03.pop up in other parts of the country? The plan is to open up

:08:04. > :08:09.another 20. In London, Boris Johnson is interested. And they hope to open

:08:10. > :08:18.some more in South Yorkshire, maybe that Paul and Hull and areas of

:08:19. > :08:24.desperation. -- Blackpool. What do you think, Andrew? It is a bit like

:08:25. > :08:29.prepped do when they give away sandwiches to the homeless. If this

:08:30. > :08:37.was not going to the supermarket most of these products would be

:08:38. > :08:40.burned. As far as the price of food is concerned, supermarkets have come

:08:41. > :08:46.up with some big news saying if Scotland vote yes for

:08:47. > :08:51.independence... They have said the price of groceries will go up in

:08:52. > :08:58.Scotland. At the moment Morrisons subsidise the price in Scotland

:08:59. > :09:03.because of the rest of the UK supermarkets and because of the

:09:04. > :09:10.levies on alcohol and cigarettes. Andrew, can you help us out? What is

:09:11. > :09:17.the connection between you and this classic TV show from the 1950s both

:09:18. > :09:28.Mac oh, no! That is not you. How did you know? When I was a little boy, I

:09:29. > :09:31.have to say I do not ride but I was auditioned to be the little boy at

:09:32. > :09:40.the front of Ivanhoe was said, Ivanhoe! Thank goodness I could

:09:41. > :09:45.not. Could you imagine that every single TV show I would come on, you

:09:46. > :09:53.would be putting me on that little horse. The other one I lucked out on

:09:54. > :09:58.was I was asked if I would play the role of Mozart in Amadeus. But I

:09:59. > :10:05.said I am not doing that. The more I kept saying no, the more they said

:10:06. > :10:10.it must be about money. I said no, I do not want to play this role. They

:10:11. > :10:15.often say the key to success is what you turn down. Well done! Back to

:10:16. > :10:20.Ivanhoe. It was based on the works of celebrated Scottish novelist Sir

:10:21. > :10:24.Walter Scott and Arthur Smith has spent the night in the little castle

:10:25. > :10:28.he called home. Built on the banks of the River

:10:29. > :10:34.Tweed, this Scottish baronial house was created and designed by Sir

:10:35. > :10:39.Walter Scott. When Scott lived here in the early 19th century, he was

:10:40. > :10:44.the most famous novelist in the world, and arguably, the most famous

:10:45. > :10:47.man in the world. He built the house for his wife Charlotte and their

:10:48. > :10:53.four children but they had to share it. With hundreds of ancient relics,

:10:54. > :11:00.the skull of Robert the Bruce, swords, sporrans and armours owned

:11:01. > :11:04.by Scots historical heroes Rob Roy and Ivanhoe, stories which became

:11:05. > :11:10.international vest sellers. Everything he earned was spent on

:11:11. > :11:14.Abbotsford. Scott wrote it was a type of conundrum castle are no

:11:15. > :11:18.castle was complete without Haaretz. The landscape of the Scottish

:11:19. > :11:23.Borders had inspired him since childhood. He collected local tales

:11:24. > :11:29.and poems and published them. His reputation was made. What do think

:11:30. > :11:34.it was about his work which made him hugely international and successful?

:11:35. > :11:39.I just think they are cracking good stories. They are rip-roaring

:11:40. > :11:45.adventures. The characters cut right across society. We have peasants and

:11:46. > :11:48.the aristocracy. It is almost a measure of a great writer what

:11:49. > :11:53.phrases they introduced into a language and Scott was responsible

:11:54. > :11:57.for a few, wasn't the? Yes, like Lock, stock and barrel. It is

:11:58. > :12:03.interesting how people will often use his words without knowing it. It

:12:04. > :12:06.is thanks to Scott that tartan became the Scottish National Party

:12:07. > :12:11.after he got his mate King George IV to wear it to a grand pageant,

:12:12. > :12:16.although Sir Walter was not one to follow suit. He was essentially a

:12:17. > :12:21.modest man. No tartan for him. Around the house he always wore his

:12:22. > :12:29.shepherd's plaid trousers. Scott's day started at 5am. While the

:12:30. > :12:35.household slept he was at his desk writing. At nine o'clock he would

:12:36. > :12:42.rise the crew ride five miles to his day job as the court sheriff. But he

:12:43. > :12:46.was not very good at his job. He made one man his gamekeeper.

:12:47. > :12:53.Servants were his friends but Abbotsford was about living the life

:12:54. > :12:59.of a baronial laird. Birthdays, Hogmanay and Christmas were all

:13:00. > :13:03.celebrated in style. In life, as in his verse, the hall was dressed with

:13:04. > :13:12.Holly Green, out to the would be merry men went to gather mistletoe.

:13:13. > :13:18.Wordsworth, Turner and Disraeli all dined at this table. There must have

:13:19. > :13:23.been some good hard to hear? Yes, Scott enjoyed a good party. He had

:13:24. > :13:30.plenty of visitors. His nickname was Colonel grog and that stayed with

:13:31. > :13:35.him. Scott complained his guests deal his time by teaspoon. But he

:13:36. > :13:40.could not turn them away. Instead, he made use of secret escape routes.

:13:41. > :13:45.This was a short cut to his bedroom. A tiny spiral staircase

:13:46. > :13:52.connects his study to a of rooms. I shall be paying homage to sub Walter

:13:53. > :13:57.by sleeping here in his dressing room. Humble but grand, Scott was a

:13:58. > :14:11.conundrum like his castle. He was also a force of nature. Sound the

:14:12. > :14:21.Clarion. Having spent the night here, surrounded by all the strange

:14:22. > :14:25.artefacts of Abbotsford, I realise Scott had created a kind of theme

:14:26. > :14:31.park just for himself, which he could use as an inspiration to write

:14:32. > :14:36.all his novels and poems. The house did overstretch Scott but it was his

:14:37. > :14:41.business links with his bankrupt publisher which ruined him in 1826.

:14:42. > :14:47.He vowed my own right hand will pay the debt. But the increased workload

:14:48. > :14:52.ruined his health and he died six years later. Here, in one of the

:14:53. > :14:57.great houses of European Romanticism, he turned marauding

:14:58. > :15:00.highlanders into heroes, made tartan the national dress and reimagined

:15:01. > :15:10.the history of his own country. It seems somehow appropriate that the

:15:11. > :15:15.country in question is Scott land. Thank you, Arthur. Andrew, you have

:15:16. > :15:20.been busy writing as well. Your first musical since 2010 is about to

:15:21. > :15:25.open to the public. It centres around the infamous Profumo affair

:15:26. > :15:31.that brought down the Macmillan government in 1963. It starts in a

:15:32. > :15:35.waxwork museum. Why is that? Cousin Stephen Ward ended up as an

:15:36. > :15:41.exhibitor in the chamber of horrors. -- because. It really intrigued me.

:15:42. > :15:51.How could it be that this man, who was the most popular man in London,

:15:52. > :15:56.and easily so. How could he, a great friend of Prince Philip and other

:15:57. > :16:01.famous people, end up in the chamber of horrors? I began to research the

:16:02. > :16:06.story. It was almost unbelievable. If I really told the story now to

:16:07. > :16:10.you, you wouldn't believe it. You would say that it wouldn't remotely

:16:11. > :16:17.fly as a musical because it seems so incredible, yet it happened. What I

:16:18. > :16:25.find really, really fascinating now, as we have played five shows before,

:16:26. > :16:29.is the entreaty reaction of the audience. We are getting teenagers,

:16:30. > :16:33.who didn't know anything about the story, saying, could this have

:16:34. > :16:38.happened? There are so many parallels with what is going on with

:16:39. > :16:42.the press and the police today. And you are getting older people who

:16:43. > :16:47.really remember it. One woman came up to me after the first preview and

:16:48. > :16:52.said, I was dreading this. I used to work for Jack Profumo when he was

:16:53. > :16:57.doing his charity work. As you know, because he ended up resigning,

:16:58. > :17:02.he did charity work for the rest of his life. This woman said, you have

:17:03. > :17:08.got it completely as it happened. I can't tell you about this one, but

:17:09. > :17:12.what I can say is it is very funny. It is very witty. It is a great

:17:13. > :17:18.history lesson. Let's have a little look at it now. This is John

:17:19. > :17:25.Profumo's wife, Valerie, paid by Joanna Riding, singing about her

:17:26. > :17:44.disgraced husband. Start somewhere you can't stay with him, that's what

:17:45. > :17:55.they'll say. Starts # And hopeless when it comes to you.

:17:56. > :17:59.#. You have been working closely with Mandy Rice-Davies, who was at

:18:00. > :18:04.the heart of the scandal. What do you want people to take away from

:18:05. > :18:09.it? She has given me a lot of advice. Of course I want people to

:18:10. > :18:12.say that it has been a great entertainment and they have enjoyed

:18:13. > :18:17.themselves, but hopefully, I want them to take away a little bit more.

:18:18. > :18:22.I want them to be moved by it, and to question how on earth something

:18:23. > :18:26.like this happen. Having Mandy tell me exactly what happened, really

:18:27. > :18:32.what went on in terms of the manipulation, that is the word -

:18:33. > :18:36.manipulation. Of everybody. The girls were made to give evidence

:18:37. > :18:44.against Stephen Ward in court and the like. It has been unbelievably

:18:45. > :18:48.valuably. And those papers are still remember -- and those papers still

:18:49. > :18:58.remain under lock and key. Simek exactly. Stephen Ward starts at the

:18:59. > :19:05.Aldwych Theatre in London. Thousands of Romanian and Bulgarian migrants

:19:06. > :19:08.have landed in the UK without any controversy whatsoever. What is

:19:09. > :19:15.amazing is the fact they got here at all. We went to find out how.

:19:16. > :19:19.I have just flown from the UK to Iceland. To make the 1000 mile

:19:20. > :19:24.journey possible, the captain has been using a huge array of

:19:25. > :19:30.instruments to help him. An alternator to work out how high they

:19:31. > :19:34.are. GPS to work out exactly where they are. And preloaded flight

:19:35. > :19:41.information to calculate the exact route. Just how do thousands of

:19:42. > :19:47.birds manage the same journey? And how do they do it without any of

:19:48. > :19:52.this technical assistance? 35 species have been here in Iceland

:19:53. > :20:05.reading over the summer. Here is a nice line Dick -- and Icelandic bird

:20:06. > :20:12.expert. We have very few predators. They have plenty of time to have

:20:13. > :20:18.their young and raise them, and prepare them for the autumn

:20:19. > :20:22.migration. I want to track down the Hooper Swans, a British species to

:20:23. > :20:28.us, but after hatching here in Iceland, they will also spend this

:20:29. > :20:33.spring and summer here. Right now, they are preparing for their

:20:34. > :20:37.migration to Britain for summer. -- for the winter. And we are lucky to

:20:38. > :20:42.find a whole flock of them here. That is the largest flock of Hooper

:20:43. > :20:49.Swans I have ever seen. They really are beautiful birds. It is an

:20:50. > :20:54.amazing spectacle, seeing this many. Why don't they spend the whole

:20:55. > :21:01.winter here? Soon it will freeze over, and we will have snow covering

:21:02. > :21:05.the ground. For the Hooper Swans who choose the British Isles for their

:21:06. > :21:11.winter destination, it is almost 1000 miles from here in Iceland.

:21:12. > :21:15.October is the main southerly migration for hundreds of species

:21:16. > :21:23.making their own journeys to their wintering grounds, some covering

:21:24. > :21:28.staggering distances. These birds navigate an incredible 19,000

:21:29. > :21:34.miles, from Siberia to central Africa. The Arctic turn is the only

:21:35. > :21:39.bird to fly from pole to pole. How do birds manage these navigational

:21:40. > :21:45.miracles with no technology insight? Holly Kirk is a bird navigation

:21:46. > :21:51.expert. The understanding is, when they are first-born they are using

:21:52. > :21:55.things the stars, the moon and the sun to orient themselves. When they

:21:56. > :22:00.are younger, they start to develop their magnetic sense, something we

:22:01. > :22:04.don't have. They are able to tell which way is north or south, and

:22:05. > :22:10.they can work out where they are by sensing changes in the Earth's

:22:11. > :22:16.magnetic field. What other queues today use? Once they have actually

:22:17. > :22:20.flown to a place a few times, they start to recognise landmarks on the

:22:21. > :22:25.way. They will be able to say, I have passed this mountain range or

:22:26. > :22:30.this lake. Some birds use their sense of smell, the same way you

:22:31. > :22:35.would use it to find the bakery in a supermarket. You follow your nose.

:22:36. > :22:38.Often, they will use more than one at the same time, so they integrate

:22:39. > :22:44.this information and bring it together. Although each of these

:22:45. > :22:47.senses must play a big part in how birds find their way from one place

:22:48. > :22:52.to be other, what gets them moving in the first place is something

:22:53. > :22:58.else. That is in strict. -- instinct. The Hooper Swans need a

:22:59. > :23:04.combination of environmental changes to occur before they will leave.

:23:05. > :23:08.Temperatures need to drop. Daylight hours need to shorten. The wind

:23:09. > :23:12.needs to be blowing in the right direction. Once all these changes

:23:13. > :23:17.coincide, the birds instinctively know it is time to get going. I

:23:18. > :23:25.November, most of them will have left Iceland. Flying about 20 metres

:23:26. > :23:30.above sea level, it will be a battle against autumnal weather to find

:23:31. > :23:36.their way to the British Isles. My flight will take around four hours

:23:37. > :23:40.to get back. For this one is, if they hit the wrong wind direction,

:23:41. > :23:44.it could take up to five days. The Swans might take a break on the

:23:45. > :23:48.water, but they will not have any food along the way. When they

:23:49. > :23:53.finally arrive, I will be there to meet them, and find out what told

:23:54. > :23:56.this epic journey has had on their bodies.

:23:57. > :24:02.These penguins were glued to the film! This little fella cannot wait

:24:03. > :24:11.to tune in tomorrow and find out what happened. Now for Cats. There

:24:12. > :24:17.is talk that it may become a film. Is that true? It has been in the air

:24:18. > :24:23.for years. The success of the movie of lame is has meant that everybody

:24:24. > :24:28.is looking at old musicals, and looking at the possibility of making

:24:29. > :24:35.them again. -- the success of Les Miserables. Joseph and the

:24:36. > :24:40.Technicolor Dreamcoat is definitely happening. Is that an exclusive? It

:24:41. > :24:47.is! That has been signed on the dotted line. Congratulations. We

:24:48. > :24:53.know that you are working on School Of Rock at the minute. What could be

:24:54. > :25:04.better than a Christmas song from a fantastic Rock Choir? With a very

:25:05. > :25:11.nice, neat haircut. Listen to that. The sound of

:25:12. > :25:16.Christmas. This is the local branch of the Rock Choir, and I am joining

:25:17. > :25:23.them for the day. First there are some faintly bizarre warm-up

:25:24. > :25:29.sessions. This is Nick, and he seems to be the leader of this band. Is

:25:30. > :25:34.that the case? Choir leader is my job title. The feeling you get from

:25:35. > :25:40.singing with a group of people is quite unique. Yes. The only thing

:25:41. > :25:44.that stops people from singing is their preconceptions of what other

:25:45. > :25:49.people think of them. Is there an audition process? No. It is about

:25:50. > :25:54.having some fun, getting them warmed up, and then starting to teach

:25:55. > :25:59.them. It is like building wick by brick, sing after me, learn the

:26:00. > :26:04.parts, and get them going. Then people can go away and practice in

:26:05. > :26:10.their own time. How many people belong to a Rock Choir around

:26:11. > :26:16.Britain? About 17,000. We have 300 towns around the country that are

:26:17. > :26:24.rehearsing every week. Take a look. What do you think? Brilliant. Are

:26:25. > :26:37.you happy? More than happy. Brilliant. The choir rehearsed once

:26:38. > :26:52.a week, and it costs members ?25 a month to take part. This is the

:26:53. > :26:59.lovely Shelley. She is a Sopranos. Have you sung before? Not really.

:27:00. > :27:04.Only at home. In the shower, doing the dishes! There is something very

:27:05. > :27:08.joyous about it. It is an uplifting thing to do. It is. You have a

:27:09. > :27:15.rotten day at work, and you come along here and rehearse, and you

:27:16. > :27:22.feel so different. Have a look. That is really lovely. They play all

:27:23. > :27:27.sorts of venues. Today, it is a shopping centre in the middle of

:27:28. > :27:39.Leeds. This is the lovely Trish. What do you do in the choir? Icing

:27:40. > :27:46.altos. -- icing alto. I think I probably would sing alto. Why did

:27:47. > :27:50.you get involved in this? I went along to a taster session. I said,

:27:51. > :27:56.I've been looking for something for ages and I didn't know what, and

:27:57. > :28:04.this is it. There is an amazing family feel. In the last year we

:28:05. > :28:09.have done Living On A Prayer. And this is an opportunity to let that

:28:10. > :28:16.in a rock star out. Is there anything more Christmassy than

:28:17. > :28:37.singing Christmas songs? No. # MoJ me of a white Christmas. #.

:28:38. > :28:39.How is that? That is awesome. Christmas songs just make you feel

:28:40. > :28:58.good. That is all we've got time for

:28:59. > :29:04.tonight. Thank you to Andrew and good luck with the Stephen Ward at

:29:05. > :29:07.the Aldwych Theatre. Tomorrow, the Queen of Walford, Dot Cotton - aka

:29:08. > :29:10.actress June Brown - will be here. Goodbye.