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:00:19. > :00:20.Hello and welcome to The One Show with Matt Baker...

:00:21. > :00:25.Tonight's guest is a journalist and broadcaster with a reputation

:00:26. > :00:28.for butting heads with the big guns of politics.

:00:29. > :00:31.He's troubled Tony, grilled Gordon and given David the third degree,

:00:32. > :00:33.but there's one potential world leader who, sadly,

:00:34. > :00:40.he's never had the opportunity to trump.

:00:41. > :00:47.Shall we find out if he has managed to do it? Let's welcome Jeremy

:00:48. > :00:54.Paxman! You are back from Washington, DC. Let me tell you

:00:55. > :00:58.exclusively, we did not get an interview with Donald Trump. There

:00:59. > :01:02.are no votes in talking to a British audience, really. That's the long

:01:03. > :01:07.and short of it. What would you have liked to have asked him? Well, after

:01:08. > :01:13.that very embarrassing take the other day, I would ask him, were you

:01:14. > :01:19.telling the truth when you said that you grabbed women's genitals?

:01:20. > :01:23.Because if he answers yes, it is hugely embarrassing, and if he

:01:24. > :01:28.answers no... Then you are entitled to say, well, what else, we believe

:01:29. > :01:32.about you? So I think it's quite a good question. What did you make of

:01:33. > :01:40.him palming it off as locker room chat? Well, there must have been

:01:41. > :01:47.some lady locker room is! Well, I've snuck in! Have you?! I don't think

:01:48. > :01:52.we want to go down this line of questioning! I can tell you, I've

:01:53. > :02:00.been in a few locker room is over the years and I've never heard that

:02:01. > :02:05.sort of talk! Did you stay up in the early hours to watch? No, I watched

:02:06. > :02:10.the highlights. We are going to be talking about your new book, and

:02:11. > :02:17.talking about your stomping ground, Cambridge University. If you have

:02:18. > :02:24.seen a bloke sketching away, that is our One Show portrait artist,

:02:25. > :02:31.Alvarez didn't artist. -- our resident artist. When you are not

:02:32. > :02:40.talking, stare into the distance and we will get a beautiful profile! But

:02:41. > :02:46.first, terrorising gangs, not something you would expect to see

:02:47. > :02:53.today. Nick has been looking at what can be done to stop the biker gangs.

:02:54. > :03:00.There is a motorised menace on our streets. You've got quad bikes,

:03:01. > :03:05.superbikes, motorbikes... Communities around the country say

:03:06. > :03:10.they are being overrun. They write them on the pavements. People don't

:03:11. > :03:14.want to come out of their houses. It is not just noise or run-of-the-mill

:03:15. > :03:19.anti-social behaviour. They've also been linked to robberies and gun

:03:20. > :03:23.crime. I've come to this estate on the Wirral. Just one of many areas

:03:24. > :03:29.being plagued by unregistered and is driven bikes. Sheila is a community

:03:30. > :03:36.worker. How bad the anti-social behaviour on this estate? Very bad.

:03:37. > :03:42.People are really intimidated. Out of control, then? Yes. Have lives

:03:43. > :03:49.been put at risk at what has gone on? Yes. Somebody was out playing,

:03:50. > :03:52.somebody came along on a bike on the pavement, they run them over. The

:03:53. > :03:58.father intervened and two cars pulled up with young lads end, they

:03:59. > :04:02.pulled up, beat him up. So a father trying to protect his own son was

:04:03. > :04:07.beaten up in front of his house? Yes, in front of his own children.

:04:08. > :04:12.Later on, the house got attacked, they threw stones. The police say

:04:13. > :04:17.the attack was properly investigated but those involved declined to give

:04:18. > :04:20.statements. This is why people won't come forward. They are frightened of

:04:21. > :04:28.what will happen. Why are you coming forward? I've lived on this state

:04:29. > :04:34.all my life and it's my home. I shouldn't be frightened to walk the

:04:35. > :04:40.streets. But many here clearly do feel intimidated. This mum agreed to

:04:41. > :04:48.talk only if we didn't show her face. You get scared to go out. You

:04:49. > :04:53.get worried about... What your kids are seeing when they go out. You

:04:54. > :04:56.can't be found out to be reporting anything or trying to stop what they

:04:57. > :05:01.are doing because they will find out who you are and where you live. It

:05:02. > :05:04.doesn't take much for them to do it. But it seems amazing you have

:05:05. > :05:10.roaming gangs of kids running riot on an estate like this. We get

:05:11. > :05:16.ignored, we get forgotten, those of us living on the estate. And the

:05:17. > :05:20.wood Church state is far from unique. Police forces from Wales to

:05:21. > :05:25.Yorkshire have set up dedicated units to deal with the problem. This

:05:26. > :05:30.is the police response, seizing and crushing bikes. Superintendent Jenny

:05:31. > :05:35.Sim says they are working hard to stop them. Over the summer period we

:05:36. > :05:40.seized over 200 bikes, many of which were stolen. We've arrested nearly

:05:41. > :05:46.100 people and have warrants across premises across Merseyside. The

:05:47. > :05:50.youth who rode through this shopping centre was jailed for a year. We are

:05:51. > :05:54.using every resource possible to target these offenders and bring

:05:55. > :05:57.them to justice. Although the police say they are working hard, the

:05:58. > :06:04.problem hasn't gone away, and for people here, the answer to nuisance

:06:05. > :06:08.bikes cannot come soon enough. But could this be part of a

:06:09. > :06:15.solution? This track was built to keep young riders off the road. It

:06:16. > :06:18.was hugely popular. 2000 members. It was set up to teach youngsters to

:06:19. > :06:24.ride responsibly by motocross instructor Graham. They learn how to

:06:25. > :06:29.maintain the bikes properly, what kit to wear, how to do it with their

:06:30. > :06:35.ability, and it was all in a safe environment. It was brilliant. It

:06:36. > :06:39.was lovely. And then it stopped. Last year, Graham's police on the

:06:40. > :06:43.land wasn't renewed so the track had to shut. -- his lease. He thinks

:06:44. > :06:49.it's the wider community that has lost out. It gives kids a focus and

:06:50. > :06:55.it gives them self-esteem. They come, they become part of a club,

:06:56. > :06:59.they learn new skills. This works. Without a doubt, this works. We just

:07:00. > :07:04.need a suitable piece of land and we can crack on. We will do this. But

:07:05. > :07:08.while Graham searches for a new site, the battle against nuisance

:07:09. > :07:14.bikers goes on. Thank you very much. Well, A Life in

:07:15. > :07:19.Questions, we've just had a chat about it. In this packed career, how

:07:20. > :07:22.do you start crafting a book with all these different anecdotes?

:07:23. > :07:28.Because you say you are not much of a diarist. You've tried and failed

:07:29. > :07:33.at that. Well, if you live long enough and you try enough times, you

:07:34. > :07:37.get a decent diary out of it. You get pages and pages and pages. It

:07:38. > :07:42.doesn't matter if you only last until March, April on a good year!

:07:43. > :07:50.You know? Get enough of those and you are fine! Shall we see a young

:07:51. > :08:02.Jeremy? A nice picture? We think about 11 or 12. Something like that.

:08:03. > :08:07.A beautiful smile. Funny ears, though! Looking back, what did you

:08:08. > :08:11.hope for the future? What did you hope to be? I rather hoped I

:08:12. > :08:14.wouldn't have to play football for much longer! I used to get hacked

:08:15. > :08:21.quite a lot because I was quite tall and thin. So I was a bit of a

:08:22. > :08:26.target. No, that wasn't what I hoped. I never really had ambition.

:08:27. > :08:28.I just did things that seemed interesting at the time and I've

:08:29. > :08:32.been very lucky, and the reason I wanted to write the book is because

:08:33. > :08:37.a lot of funny things have happened. And I've met some amazing people. I

:08:38. > :08:43.don't think that stage I really had an ambition but I realised looking

:08:44. > :08:46.back on life, you've got to live it looking forwards but you only

:08:47. > :08:51.understand looking backwards. Looking backwards, I can see that,

:08:52. > :08:58.you know, I loved words and I love finding things out, so a career in

:08:59. > :09:02.journalism was a natural for me. And I would have been absolutely

:09:03. > :09:07.hopeless at many other careers! In fact, I was turned down for every

:09:08. > :09:13.other job I applied for! Well, you didn't get the first job at the BBC,

:09:14. > :09:23.did you? No, that's right. Very wise! You gloat, you and your locker

:09:24. > :09:25.room anecdotes! You start off with your childhood and the schools you

:09:26. > :09:29.went to and you write about the relationship with your dad, which

:09:30. > :09:33.has garnered quite a lot of press when people are talking about the

:09:34. > :09:36.book. How did you find the process of going back and revisiting your

:09:37. > :09:43.childhood and writing about that time? Actually, it didn't trouble

:09:44. > :09:48.me. I think one of the characteristics of childhood is of

:09:49. > :09:52.course you appreciate things much more intensely as a child than you

:09:53. > :09:58.ever do as an adult. Except going into a locker room, of course! But

:09:59. > :10:01.you do appreciate them intensely and, you know, I had a bad

:10:02. > :10:05.relationship with my father but then I'm not sure that my siblings have a

:10:06. > :10:11.much better relationship. That's for them to say, I think. I'm the one...

:10:12. > :10:16.This one nearest me, on the right of the picture. And then the one on the

:10:17. > :10:23.left became a diplomat. And the one in the middle, James, end up

:10:24. > :10:28.conservationist. So looking back at this life of questions, thinking

:10:29. > :10:32.about the line you often take with your interviews, where do you think

:10:33. > :10:38.that comes from? Because you say you love words and all this, that and

:10:39. > :10:42.the other, but that hard edge, that no-nonsense, direct approach, what

:10:43. > :10:46.you put that down to? Look, there's no difference between you, me, Alex

:10:47. > :10:50.or anyone else in this room, and is a great crowd of people here! I

:10:51. > :10:55.don't know why they don't have a job to do! Anyway! There's no

:10:56. > :11:01.difference, really. The only difference is one of opportunity,

:11:02. > :11:06.and I think... There's no special position that an interviewer or

:11:07. > :11:09.journalist has but if you have an opportunity you should down well use

:11:10. > :11:14.it. I think you are there on behalf of the citizen and if you ask a

:11:15. > :11:17.question you should get an answer to it. Everybody is school now in how

:11:18. > :11:23.not to answer questions and it's your job just to cut through that.

:11:24. > :11:29.And as many funny anecdotes, because, as you say, you've met many

:11:30. > :11:42.funny people, and one of them was the CEO of MNS. -- of Marks

:11:43. > :11:48.Spencer. Who is that?! Looks a bit like John Suchet! In a locker room!

:11:49. > :11:53.Just tell us what happened, because that was a bizarre lunch, wasn't it?

:11:54. > :11:59.It was very bizarre. I was very foolish. I shouldn't have complained

:12:00. > :12:06.about the quality of Marks Spencer's pants. They were better

:12:07. > :12:13.than many in terms of quality. They wash better! I'm glad you wash them!

:12:14. > :12:18.I concluded there wasn't any intrinsic problem with any brand of

:12:19. > :12:24.superb -- pants except that when you buy food it says best before or eat

:12:25. > :12:27.by, and the same should be true of pants, because once they have

:12:28. > :12:33.gone... Do you know how old the pants that you are wearing today?

:12:34. > :12:39.Well, without thinking too much, yes. You don't know how old they

:12:40. > :12:44.are. And because you don't know, they've gone through the wash enough

:12:45. > :12:49.times and they start getting ropey. I'm just loving the fact that here

:12:50. > :12:53.we are, sitting on The One Show with Jeremy Paxman having an in-depth

:12:54. > :12:58.conversation about pants! So I wrote to Stuart Rose and said I was very

:12:59. > :13:02.worried about Marks Spencer's reputation, and he invited me to

:13:03. > :13:05.lunch, and through the course of the lunch, there would be a knock on the

:13:06. > :13:11.door and in through the door would come a man. A bit like that but

:13:12. > :13:16.hairless! And he would come in and wearing -- be wearing a pair of

:13:17. > :13:20.briefs, and then a thong, and then boxer shorts, and all the time,

:13:21. > :13:27.Stuart Rose having a tremendous time saying, do feel the quality of the

:13:28. > :13:34.cotton! A novel experience! We already a minute over! We will have

:13:35. > :13:42.to move on. All will be revealed in Bass Rock, which is out now! Now,

:13:43. > :13:47.Jeremy might have been broadcasting for more than 40 years but another

:13:48. > :13:51.institution has been broadcasting for even longer. We have given Lucy

:13:52. > :13:57.just three minutes to sum up 70 years of Woman's Hour.

:13:58. > :14:03.I am at Broadcasting House about to be interviewed by a radio legend.

:14:04. > :14:11.This is Jenni Murray, welcoming you to Woman's Hour. Lucy joins me to

:14:12. > :14:15.talk about slow fashion. In 1946, as women tried to adjust back into a

:14:16. > :14:20.role in the home, there was appetite for a radio show just for them.

:14:21. > :14:25.Originally presented by a man, the show didn't immediately hit the

:14:26. > :14:29.right note. Well, I would like to ask all the husbands the table

:14:30. > :14:34.whether it is a good idea to have more than one wife. It depends on

:14:35. > :14:38.the wife you have already! Thankfully, perhaps, a woman soon

:14:39. > :14:42.took over and the show began to tackle relevant topics, including

:14:43. > :14:47.the two blue... I think the next item will make some of you very

:14:48. > :14:59.angry but these two people have chosen to cohabit rather than marry

:15:00. > :15:05.and they give their reasons. On Woman's Hour, it is jam, Jerusalem

:15:06. > :15:09.and genital warts! Sorry about the vulgarity, but that doesn't cover

:15:10. > :15:14.it. They continue to push boundaries and the responsibility of hosting

:15:15. > :15:18.fell to Sue MacGregor. I was sent to South Africa to interview Winnie

:15:19. > :15:22.Mandela. He was very much in jail and she was banned. That was

:15:23. > :15:28.famously charged because the house was raided while you were there?

:15:29. > :15:33.Yes. It is extremely difficult to explain to your own children the

:15:34. > :15:40.presence of these forces in your own home... She said, you have gone

:15:41. > :15:46.quite white. I said, well, yes. She said, don't worry, they do this

:15:47. > :15:49.every day. What was it like interviewing the Iron Lady? She came

:15:50. > :15:54.in quite nervous and I was surprised. She said, do you think

:15:55. > :16:01.they will be able to tell our voice apart? I said, I suspect so. You

:16:02. > :16:04.don't get to be a thriving, vigorous, enthusiastic country by

:16:05. > :16:10.saying to people, you make money and we will taxi. But here is a

:16:11. > :16:14.surprising fact. Out of almost 3.5 million weekly listeners, a third of

:16:15. > :16:18.them are men. Matt Smith is a football pool cost and also an avid

:16:19. > :16:26.woman's hour listener. -- Woman's Hour listener. Why are you

:16:27. > :16:30.listening? Woman's Hour? They often look for a woman point -- one's

:16:31. > :16:36.point of view to address topics. It's not done in an an inclusive way

:16:37. > :16:40.for men and what I find is with a family that includes a wife and

:16:41. > :16:42.daughter, late in the day when I see them, I bring up the topics I've

:16:43. > :16:46.heard that maybe they haven't from the programme. And they either agree

:16:47. > :16:52.or disagree, but it informs a talking point, which is the mark of

:16:53. > :16:59.a good show. What do you think is responsible for the enduring appeal

:17:00. > :17:03.of Woman's Hour? I think women can like to cook, don't like to cook,

:17:04. > :17:09.you know, the huge range of interests. And we reflect that.

:17:10. > :17:11.Woman's Hour has become a national institution. And 70 years old, it is

:17:12. > :17:21.still going strong. A very happy birthday to Woman's

:17:22. > :17:24.Hour, 3.5 million viewers, listeners even, not viewers!

:17:25. > :17:28.It is on the radio. Thurau the programme tonight Jeremy has been

:17:29. > :17:35.sketched by our friend here, and it's now time to find out a little

:17:36. > :17:39.bit more about him. He has a slightly gentler interviewing

:17:40. > :17:40.approach than Jeremy. Who he is sketching actress whose own image

:17:41. > :17:46.has made headlines. I'm Adebanji Alade,

:17:47. > :17:53.an artist who loves to sketch People's lives are etched onto their

:17:54. > :17:57.faces. When I see a face I see a story and drawing them means I can

:17:58. > :18:02.be part of their story. Today I'm going to draw actress Leslie Ash who

:18:03. > :18:07.starred in the British classic Quadra Ruffini and became a

:18:08. > :18:11.household name for her role in the award-winning Men Behaving Badly and

:18:12. > :18:15.has had roles in prime-time dramas but her career in recent years has

:18:16. > :18:18.been overshadowed by her appearance recently. You've always been on

:18:19. > :18:23.show. This must have been ingrained in new. The way we looked was always

:18:24. > :18:30.quite important to my mum. She was my number one fan. The way the

:18:31. > :18:33.public saw me is basically how I was portrayed in the press so I suppose

:18:34. > :18:37.I've been portrayed as being a bit silly and I've made a few mistakes.

:18:38. > :18:43.To be honest that's not me. I want to find a way to paint her the way I

:18:44. > :18:54.see her. Would you say that the press, have they been kind with you?

:18:55. > :18:58.It's a strange thing being papped as they say. At the beginning you

:18:59. > :19:01.wanted it to happen. People would come through Heathrow Airport and

:19:02. > :19:06.have big coats and sunglasses on and you would think, God, I want to be

:19:07. > :19:13.like that, you know? And then it all started in the 80s, paparazzi fever,

:19:14. > :19:17.they became quite invasive. Pictures didn't always look nice. They would

:19:18. > :19:22.always tend to want to get the picture where you didn't look very

:19:23. > :19:27.nice. When I sketch someone and they are talking there is something about

:19:28. > :19:31.what they're saying, it resonates, especially when they are very

:19:32. > :19:35.genuine about what they are saying. It's almost like the whole picture

:19:36. > :19:39.speaks to me. Would there ever be a time when you have looked into the

:19:40. > :19:47.mirror and you didn't like what you saw? I have tried cosmetic surgery.

:19:48. > :19:52.I've messed up big time. Seriously, I regret ever having anything done

:19:53. > :19:58.in the past. It was a really silly thing to do. And as I say, learn

:19:59. > :20:04.from my mistakes. In 2004 while being treated in hospital Leslie

:20:05. > :20:14.contracted a hospital acquired infection, MMSA. When something like

:20:15. > :20:21.that happens, when you are so lucky to survive, it is life changing. I

:20:22. > :20:25.had to start again, learning to walk. Your image was everything to

:20:26. > :20:30.you. Because of your business and what you did. My husband was a

:20:31. > :20:34.footballer and we always knew that his career would come to an end. I

:20:35. > :20:39.just never imagined anything would stop me becoming an actress. I just

:20:40. > :20:44.thought I'd picked a good one here, I can do it until I pop my clogs,

:20:45. > :20:52.basically. It's sort of surprised me how difficult and how brutal it was

:20:53. > :20:57.really that it just stopped. I think it makes you tougher. You start to

:20:58. > :21:06.realise that actually it's not all about you. Sometimes you just think,

:21:07. > :21:10.actually, just get on with it. Yeah. Just go with it, and 56-year-old

:21:11. > :21:15.disabled woman getting on with my life, getting on with my career.

:21:16. > :21:20.What is your core identity now? What would you say? Mother, that's what I

:21:21. > :21:24.feel I've really done well at. I'm finding it difficult with the age

:21:25. > :21:30.process, I have to say. It's not an easy thing to go through. My sons

:21:31. > :21:35.want me to grow old gracefully. OK! That's good. Which are not very

:21:36. > :21:38.happy about it but I will. Image was so important when I was younger

:21:39. > :21:42.because you just didn't know what was going to happen, you would just

:21:43. > :21:45.go with the Times. I never used to leave the house is my hair was

:21:46. > :21:51.blow-dried and sometimes now I just let it go natural, which is quite

:21:52. > :21:56.curly, actually. My mother had curly hair and I'm sort of like turning

:21:57. > :22:02.into my mother. I was very close to my mum, my mum passed away in 2000.

:22:03. > :22:07.You have this fear of them passing on the Batson to you, you have to

:22:08. > :22:11.just carry on and do your best for your kids -- bat on. Using the time

:22:12. > :22:20.sketching Leslie I've created a portrait of the way I see her.

:22:21. > :22:28.Wow. Adebanji, how long did it take for the finished painting? Close to

:22:29. > :22:32.16 hours. Really? Not everything was finished alive, I had to do some

:22:33. > :22:39.after. There is a lot in that face. You've been going 20 minutes or so

:22:40. > :22:44.on Jeremy. Has he got a good face to sketch? Brilliant come out of this

:22:45. > :22:49.world. We are talking about a sketch, not a caricature, aren't we?

:22:50. > :22:54.No, no, this is a sketch. The first thing is your nose. I've spent my

:22:55. > :23:02.whole life being told I have a huge hooter. I tell you what, those

:23:03. > :23:09.intricate parts of your face, I love them. I look forward to seeing it.

:23:10. > :23:13.We will have a look shortly. OK. Adebanji normally sketches on public

:23:14. > :23:17.transport a lot, on the train. What you look for in a good face? The

:23:18. > :23:22.light, the shade, the texture, beauty, wrinkles. It could just be

:23:23. > :23:27.the mood people are in. I think most Londoners are not happy going to

:23:28. > :23:31.work so they create a good feeling to sketch. The first one you saw is

:23:32. > :23:36.you in a winter hat wasn't it? When I don't have anyone to sketch I look

:23:37. > :23:41.at a reflection of myself in the window of the train. It is just

:23:42. > :23:46.addictive, I love sketching and I have to do it. We were talking

:23:47. > :23:50.earlier on that you don't use an eraser at all. It plays on your

:23:51. > :23:53.brain, go straight for pen or something you cannot eraser so your

:23:54. > :23:58.brain gets used to not making mistakes. We are unique and

:23:59. > :24:03.wonderful as human beings, so yes. I think we should reveal your work to

:24:04. > :24:07.Jeremy, if you are ready. I am ready. Just 20 minutes. That was

:24:08. > :24:14.very quick. APPLAUSE

:24:15. > :24:22.I tell you what, that is, yeah, isn't that wonderful. That is

:24:23. > :24:27.recognisable! It's definitely you! Thank you, Adebanji.

:24:28. > :24:31.From reading Jeremy's but we know he has struggled to find club to join

:24:32. > :24:34.when he was at Cambridge but if he had a head for heights he might have

:24:35. > :24:40.wanted to try the Ultima University challenge. Hey! Good one. Iwan

:24:41. > :24:45.Thomas has discovered the Night Climbers, or as we like to call it

:24:46. > :24:50.Posh Parkour. I'm on the trail of a secret

:24:51. > :24:55.society, one that was set up over 80 years ago here amongst the hallowed

:24:56. > :24:59.halls of Cambridge University. But they were not an underground

:25:00. > :25:03.organisation, they operated on a far higher plane under the cover of

:25:04. > :25:09.darkness. They were called The Night Climbers of Cambridge.

:25:10. > :25:16.Their shadowy aim was to scale the buildings and walk the rooftops of

:25:17. > :25:21.Cambridge in celestial splendour, inspired by a little-known book.

:25:22. > :25:25.Someone who knows this book intimately is Doctor Bradley

:25:26. > :25:29.Garratt, an academic and writer on urban exploration.

:25:30. > :25:32.This book is The Night Climbers of Cambridge, published in 1937. It's a

:25:33. > :25:38.collection of photographs and stories from about 24 Night Climbers

:25:39. > :25:42.over the course of 20 years. This phenomenon began because some

:25:43. > :25:46.students liked to go to the pub but the college locked the gates at

:25:47. > :25:50.10pm, so with nothing to do they discovered that the builders of

:25:51. > :25:54.Cambridge had plenty of natural footholds -- buildings. People would

:25:55. > :25:59.scale these wars just to not get into trouble? Absolutely. That looks

:26:00. > :26:04.worn down from people's feet. That is precisely what it is from, you

:26:05. > :26:09.can see along the fence all the way up to the top would be a match from

:26:10. > :26:13.night scaling. They suddenly got interested by what else they could

:26:14. > :26:17.climb. The Night Climbers wore no special clothing, apart from the odd

:26:18. > :26:22.tweed jacket and silk scarf. They usually would climb without ropes

:26:23. > :26:25.and wouldn't balk at scaling the near 100 foot high King's College

:26:26. > :26:29.already Deeping through midair. This is one of the most dangerous climbs

:26:30. > :26:33.in Cambridge, going in the drainpipe over Senate House passage and when

:26:34. > :26:43.you get to the top of the drainpipe jumping across the gap, called the

:26:44. > :26:46.Senate House leap. That is a good six foot gap. If they felt they

:26:47. > :26:48.would definitely break their legs and might die. The plucky Night

:26:49. > :26:51.Climbers liked to let people know about their exploits, and they would

:26:52. > :26:56.leave things in full view, Santa hats, toilet seats, underwear, and

:26:57. > :26:59.in 1958, this. They were engineering students so

:27:00. > :27:02.they basically constructed this winch and winched the van up onto

:27:03. > :27:06.the roof and left it there and everyone worked up in the morning

:27:07. > :27:09.and there was a van on top of this any house. The Night Climbers are

:27:10. > :27:13.still conquering the summits of Cambridge even today. The Times

:27:14. > :27:19.journalist used to be one of them. Nice to meet you. Nice to meet you.

:27:20. > :27:22.He will demonstrate a climb at the Royal Holloway College just for The

:27:23. > :27:26.One Show. Cambridge didn't want to play. How on earth did you get in

:27:27. > :27:31.tonight climbing? I got given the book by my dad. You

:27:32. > :27:35.are 18 at university, who wouldn't want to be part of that?

:27:36. > :27:39.Today Tom's best friend is this guide rope, in the interests of

:27:40. > :27:43.safety and the avoidance of a lawsuit he will be attached to this

:27:44. > :27:47.line at all times, and I know it is supposed to be a night but that's

:27:48. > :27:56.health and safety for you. Feeling all right? Yes, it should be fun.

:27:57. > :28:01.Fun? Have a good one. Jiyas. Shall I leave you to concentrate? No, it is

:28:02. > :28:07.OK. It is lovely. What would you like me to do now? I was just

:28:08. > :28:16.reading up on what you crazy lot do, you just look like him. He is using

:28:17. > :28:19.the drainpipe. Many of the Night Climbers became proper explorers,

:28:20. > :28:22.four of whom went on to summit Everest. But there is a different

:28:23. > :28:27.legacy to these posh pranks and it doesn't require the wearing of

:28:28. > :28:31.tweeds. Our modern urban explorers and death-defying rooftop climbers

:28:32. > :28:40.can trace their lineage back to The Night Climbers of Cambridge. Come

:28:41. > :28:53.on, Tom. Nearly bare. He is taking ages. Hello. Well done. Jiyas.

:28:54. > :28:57.Unlovely One Show flag. # No mountain high enough #

:28:58. > :29:00.The question is, did you ever find yourself climbing the walls of any

:29:01. > :29:04.building at Cambridge? I used to climb the walls but I

:29:05. > :29:10.never did that stuff. The furthest I got was climbing in after the gates

:29:11. > :29:14.had been locked. Gertje stop out! Locker room interloper! -- dirty

:29:15. > :29:25.stop out! It has all been revealed to night.

:29:26. > :29:27.11 questions will be released soon. Do you want that sketch? Thank you

:29:28. > :29:28.very much. Tomorrow we'll be joined by

:29:29. > :29:31.Jasper Carrott and Alistair McGowan.