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:00:17. > :00:23.Hello, and welcome to The One Show with Alex Jones. And Matt Baker.

:00:24. > :00:28.Tonight 's guest comes from one of the most dangerous places in

:00:29. > :00:32.television drama. Over the years it has clocked up hundreds of deaths,

:00:33. > :00:38.meaning it boasts a murder rate twice that of London. Good job his

:00:39. > :00:47.character is such a sleuth! It is Midsomer Murders' DCI Barnaby, Neil

:00:48. > :00:52.bludgeon! You are coming up to your 100th episode tomorrow. You off to

:00:53. > :00:58.one of the most remarkable places for your episode. It was an idea for

:00:59. > :01:02.a celebration for the 100 episode, to go somewhere where we don't

:01:03. > :01:09.normally go. Someone came up with the idea of Denmark. I think because

:01:10. > :01:14.there are similarities between Midsomer and Denmark. The show has

:01:15. > :01:20.always been tremendously popular there, and been supported by the

:01:21. > :01:26.people of Denmark. Apparently, 80% of households in Denmark own and

:01:27. > :01:31.Midsomer Murders DVDs. Are you sure? Not that I am taking anything

:01:32. > :01:34.away from Midsomer Murders! That is impressive. We will be talking to

:01:35. > :01:41.kneel all about Midsomer Murders later. We will also be meeting a man

:01:42. > :01:47.whose book was adapted by George Clooney for a Hollywood blockbuster

:01:48. > :01:54.that is out on Friday. Monuments Men. In Midsomer, there has been a

:01:55. > :01:58.total of 281 murders, a rate that has not gone up or down during year

:01:59. > :02:04.this -- during a 17 year history of the series. Those crime figures are

:02:05. > :02:08.bad, but with a bit of fiddling, you can make them sound better. That is

:02:09. > :02:18.what has been happening in the real world.

:02:19. > :02:26.What did you just see there? A robbery or a theft? The difference

:02:27. > :02:30.is that robbery involves either threatened or actual violence to

:02:31. > :02:35.steal. Theft just means you have served -- you have had something

:02:36. > :02:40.nicked, and is a less serious crime. If you were that Victims' Code would

:02:41. > :02:44.you be happy to know that what was initially labelled a robbery was

:02:45. > :02:51.later downgraded to theft? That has been happening for years. There is

:02:52. > :02:55.an enquiry under way right now investigating practices crime

:02:56. > :02:59.recording. Former and current police officers are baring all and giving

:03:00. > :03:03.evidence about how some crimes have been deliberately misreported to

:03:04. > :03:10.keep crime stats down. Chris Hobbs is a retired detective from the

:03:11. > :03:16.Metropolitan Police, and in his career, saw figure fiddling White

:03:17. > :03:23.from the start. Coughing is what the police called downgrading of a

:03:24. > :03:27.crime. So a woman and is walking down the street, and someone takes

:03:28. > :03:34.her phone off her. What would that go down as? It will almost certainly

:03:35. > :03:41.go down as theft. The ranking officers might want it to go down as

:03:42. > :03:45.robbery, because she is in fear of violence being inflicted on her.

:03:46. > :03:53.This happens time and time again, and it infuriates rake and file

:03:54. > :04:02.officers. This isn't the only time it happens. Give me another one. So

:04:03. > :04:07.an attempted burglary, which might be shown by marks around the door

:04:08. > :04:11.frame or the window. It will be recorded as criminal damage, not an

:04:12. > :04:18.attempted burglary. This practice has been going on for decades.

:04:19. > :04:22.Officers had to report attempted burglaries as criminal death inch.

:04:23. > :04:28.There have been 178 performance driven targets issued to police

:04:29. > :04:32.across England and Wales. Some say this encourages police to downgrade

:04:33. > :04:38.crimes and get cases closed as soon as the, even if the crimes are not

:04:39. > :04:42.solved. Picture this - you are in a shop, and without noticing, someone

:04:43. > :04:47.dips into your bag and steals your purse. By the time you notice, the

:04:48. > :04:58.thief has gone. What would you call this, a theft or a lost? Carrie had

:04:59. > :05:05.her purse taken last year. I was on a bus, and I realised my pursed had

:05:06. > :05:10.gone. The police wanted to report it as lost rather than stolen, but I

:05:11. > :05:17.knew that I had my purse on the bus and I didn't lose it on there. So it

:05:18. > :05:21.had been stolen. If I were to report again, I would wonder if the crime

:05:22. > :05:29.would be reported as it was or something different. Cuffing not the

:05:30. > :05:36.only way of mass gene statistics. There was also something called

:05:37. > :05:41.nodding. It is where you might get a burglar out of prison for a day, and

:05:42. > :05:47.you take him round lots of places where a burglary has been committed,

:05:48. > :05:52.and he says, yes, I did that. As a result, he could get leniency in

:05:53. > :05:58.court and close open investigations. In South Wales,

:05:59. > :06:05.detectives were disciplined after they got a 17-year-old prisoner out

:06:06. > :06:10.and got him to admit to crimes. Another method is skewing, where

:06:11. > :06:16.forces put effort into solving crimes they know they are being

:06:17. > :06:22.monitored on, often leaving other crimes to suffer. You were there for

:06:23. > :06:29.30 years. Why didn't you say anything earlier? Officers over

:06:30. > :06:35.decades have been frightened to speak out over manipulation of crime

:06:36. > :06:39.figures, because they feel they will be the one who suffers. It is a

:06:40. > :06:45.ridiculous situation that needs to be addressed. Now the College of

:06:46. > :06:50.Policing has announced it is going to introduce national training to

:06:51. > :06:58.ensure more consistent crime reporting. Forces across England and

:06:59. > :07:04.Wales will record crimes as we, the taxpayer, expect them to.

:07:05. > :07:09.Unbelievable. I'm sure a lot of people watching will be dumbfounded.

:07:10. > :07:14.We have seen all of these headlines over the last month or so.

:07:15. > :07:20.Obviously, that is not per. Ray. And lots of conflicting headlines. Let

:07:21. > :07:24.me tell you about the Crime Survey for England and Wales, which has

:07:25. > :07:28.retained its kitemark. They don't get their stats from the police,

:07:29. > :07:33.they get them from talking to members of the public, victims of

:07:34. > :07:36.crime. They interviewed 50,000 households, and even the Met Police

:07:37. > :07:41.says the information they get is can still stubbornly different and

:07:42. > :07:46.demonstrates a different -- difference between the figures of

:07:47. > :07:52.police and the experience of people. They found that household

:07:53. > :07:58.crime is down by 10%, personal crime is down 9%, but shoplifting is up

:07:59. > :08:01.4%. That has come from them. They get to talk to people and they get a

:08:02. > :08:06.very different experience, and they hear about things like domestic

:08:07. > :08:12.abuse, things that people will not open up about when talking to the

:08:13. > :08:18.police. So there is going to be an enquiry, but what do they hope to

:08:19. > :08:24.achieve? This has been requested by the Home Affairs Select Committee.

:08:25. > :08:28.It is going to be undertaken by the HMIC, Her Majesty's Inspectorate of

:08:29. > :08:31.Constabulary. They will investigate crime data and its integrity, and

:08:32. > :08:38.they will do that in a number of ways. They will go to control rooms,

:08:39. > :08:41.referrals to specialist investigation departments, or

:08:42. > :08:45.directly to officers and speak to them, and really get into the

:08:46. > :08:49.nitty-gritty. The first release of the information will come to us in

:08:50. > :08:55.spring, but the full report will be out in the autumn. We saw an

:08:56. > :09:01.ex-policeman talking there, but what have the actual police force said

:09:02. > :09:08.about this? Way got in touch with all of the forces in England and

:09:09. > :09:12.Wales. Most replies. Most of them said that accurate crime stats were

:09:13. > :09:16.essential and that work is going on to make crime stats more

:09:17. > :09:20.transparent. The Met have spoken to us and they say they do not support

:09:21. > :09:25.the inappropriate downgrading of crimes, and they have a number of

:09:26. > :09:28.processes in place to ensure that crime is classified correctly. They

:09:29. > :09:33.say they are looking into the allegations that have been made, and

:09:34. > :09:38.they refused that attempted burglary is routinely recorded as criminal

:09:39. > :09:45.budget -- criminal damage to lower crime stats. Thank you. It will be

:09:46. > :09:49.interesting to see what happens to those statistics in the coming

:09:50. > :09:56.years. This week, Midsomer Murders, the crime drama that is enjoyed in

:09:57. > :10:03.225 countries, is set to end -- to celebrate its 100th episode. But

:10:04. > :10:08.this time, some of the action takes place abroad, and sees DCI Barnaby

:10:09. > :10:17.getting to grips with some of his Nordic counterparts. Hello. Let's

:10:18. > :10:22.get started. We will take your sergeant to the crime scene. You and

:10:23. > :10:29.I will go to the morgue. I would like to go to the factory. Nonsense.

:10:30. > :10:35.You will come to the morgue. Come, come.

:10:36. > :10:45.Very good! You were telling us that you decided to go to Denmark for the

:10:46. > :10:53.100th, but what is the plot? What happens? I cannot really tell you!

:10:54. > :10:58.Marvellously, the episode does open in Denmark, in Copenhagen, which is

:10:59. > :11:04.quite surprising. It is very beautiful. There is a man there with

:11:05. > :11:10.a tin of biscuits, and it turns out that it relates to somewhere in

:11:11. > :11:16.Midsomer. The Danish police have to get in touch with us about something

:11:17. > :11:19.related to it, so myself and Nelson go around investigating what has

:11:20. > :11:24.happened around the biscuit factory. This is a bit of a mash up between

:11:25. > :11:32.The Killing and Borgen in, and Midsomer. Are your producers joining

:11:33. > :11:36.forces? Yes, our producer rang somebody in Denmark and asked them

:11:37. > :11:42.if they would be interested, and they said yes. Amazingly - I think

:11:43. > :11:46.this is true - for all of their marvellous work, I think they're

:11:47. > :11:52.number one TV show is Midsomer Murders! I think there are

:11:53. > :11:58.similarities between the Danish character and the British

:11:59. > :12:04.character, and the Midsomer Murders middling glint of thing seems to

:12:05. > :12:08.appeal. Terribly well mannered and reserved, but when you get into it,

:12:09. > :12:15.you find that everybody is lying and embezzling and having affairs, and

:12:16. > :12:21.there is a murder every week. You turn over the stone and you show

:12:22. > :12:26.things wriggling about underneath. So you said that 80% of Danish

:12:27. > :12:32.households have a DVD of Midsomer Murders. What sort of reception did

:12:33. > :12:37.you get? Several times we were trying to film, and people walking

:12:38. > :12:42.by would do a double-take and stop. We were outside a building that we

:12:43. > :12:48.saw as the police headquarters that is featured in The Killing, and our

:12:49. > :12:54.photographer said, can we have you two and the Danish women in a shot.

:12:55. > :12:57.So we arranged ourselves, and the entire Danish crew were there with

:12:58. > :13:03.their phones out, getting pictures of us. They were very excited about

:13:04. > :13:16.it, and so will we. I am looking forward to seeing this! Midsomer

:13:17. > :13:21.Murders, the killings of Copenhagen -- Midsomer Murders: The Killings At

:13:22. > :13:25.Copenhagen is on tomorrow night. We actually had our own Danish mystery

:13:26. > :13:30.in the studio, because we knew you were coming on. We know you like

:13:31. > :13:35.Danish pastries. We got used three, but they have disappeared without a

:13:36. > :13:42.trace! It is remarkable. Time to look at the evidence now. We know

:13:43. > :13:46.nothing else about the pastries, just that they were left on that

:13:47. > :13:54.horrible plate. We have collared three suspects. Look at them. They

:13:55. > :13:58.look guilty as it is! These were the only people around the studio this

:13:59. > :14:06.afternoon. We took their statements earlier. Have a listen. The clues

:14:07. > :14:11.are there. I am Bob, the One Show security guard, and I keep an eye on

:14:12. > :14:17.the studio. They do call me Sweet Tooth, but I swear it wasn't me!

:14:18. > :14:22.Honest! At about 3pm, I heard the bell ring, so I left the studio to

:14:23. > :14:28.see who it was, but there was no one there. When I came back, the

:14:29. > :14:35.pastries had gone! I Magdalena, and I am here from Austria on a work

:14:36. > :14:39.experience exchange, but I know nothing about this pastry which they

:14:40. > :14:45.are in such a whirl about. I don't know who is the nasty fees, but I

:14:46. > :14:51.couldn't have eaten it. I'm allergic to nuts. And anyway, this afternoon,

:14:52. > :14:55.I was putting up the pretzels in the green room. I am Larry, the One Show

:14:56. > :15:02.stylist. It is my job to make everything look witty, including

:15:03. > :15:06.myself. That's why it wouldn't be me who took the pastry. I've been on a

:15:07. > :15:12.diet since Christmas, and I have lost ?10. Can't you tell? And I

:15:13. > :15:26.would not put a pastry on a cruddy bit of crockery like that. So, was

:15:27. > :15:36.it Bob? Was it Magdalena? Or was it a Larry? Are these not on the plate?

:15:37. > :15:47.Did somebody say they were allergic to nuts? Magdalena did say she was.

:15:48. > :15:57.Are you saying it is her? OK. Would the guilty party please step

:15:58. > :16:03.forward? Yes! You were right. Was that the clue I was supposed to get?

:16:04. > :16:07.It was. She gave herself away. I could do this for a living. That was

:16:08. > :16:14.like a property detective! But how did she know there were nuts on the

:16:15. > :16:19.Danish if she had not taken it? That was the point, because it was pecan

:16:20. > :16:25.and maple. Now, lit Friday sees the cinematic

:16:26. > :16:28.release of The Monuments Men, a film about a unit who played an important

:16:29. > :16:35.part in World War II. Gyles has been to meet the last surviving British

:16:36. > :16:39.member of the team. We have been task with the finding and protecting

:16:40. > :16:42.of over 5 million pieces of stolen art.

:16:43. > :16:47.The Monuments Men is based on the true story of the greatest treasure

:16:48. > :16:51.hunting history, hand-picked not for their military prowess, but for

:16:52. > :16:54.their artistic expertise, this allied front-line unit was on a

:16:55. > :16:58.mission to track down and rescue priceless cultural masterpieces

:16:59. > :17:07.looted by the Nazis during World War II. That is what Hitler wants. That

:17:08. > :17:11.is exactly what we are fighting for. The Monuments Men is shorthand for

:17:12. > :17:14.the monuments fine arts and art programme of the civil affairs and

:17:15. > :17:19.military government sections of the Allied armies. The title was

:17:20. > :17:26.monumental, as many of the stolen works of art they were tasked with

:17:27. > :17:30.liberating. Today, in the National Gallery, you can see one

:17:31. > :17:36.particularly fine example that the Nazis hid away in a salt mine. What

:17:37. > :17:44.a lovely picture. It is painted by an Italian artist from about 1470.

:17:45. > :17:48.Here, we see St George tracking down the Dragon, about to rescue the

:17:49. > :17:54.princess. This painting belonged to a family who were victims of the

:17:55. > :17:59.campaign of terror and had their entire art collection seized. It was

:18:00. > :18:03.destined for Hitler's fewer Museum, part of his grand mission to

:18:04. > :18:08.transform his Austrian childhood home into a third Reich capital of

:18:09. > :18:13.culture. Even in the last days of the war, he was still looking at

:18:14. > :18:16.models of Linz in his bunker in Berlin . All complete fantasy, of

:18:17. > :18:22.course, as Europe was burning around him. These pictures were still in

:18:23. > :18:26.the salt mine, waiting to go to that projected grand gallery he wanted to

:18:27. > :18:32.build. Until the arrival of monuments men? Yes. They came and

:18:33. > :18:37.made inventor is of the paintings they found and then took them to

:18:38. > :18:44.collecting points where the rightful owners could claim the picture back.

:18:45. > :18:48.This was just one of more than 5 million treasures salvaged by The

:18:49. > :18:53.Monuments Men. Undertaking this Herculean challenge with 345 museum

:18:54. > :18:58.curators, art historians and architects from 13 countries. More

:18:59. > :19:04.than 50 of them were British, but only one lives to tell the tale. He

:19:05. > :19:14.is not a monuments man. She is a monuments woman. This is the home of

:19:15. > :19:22.the last surviving British member of this fascinating organisation.

:19:23. > :19:29.97-year-old Ann Olivia Bell. You are the last of The Monuments Men. And

:19:30. > :19:35.you are a woman! In 1944, Ann's background as an art history student

:19:36. > :19:41.at a prestigious institute put her on the radar for the monuments work.

:19:42. > :19:45.I was working in the Ministry of information and I met a friend of

:19:46. > :19:48.mine at a party who used to lecture to me when I was a student. He

:19:49. > :19:55.said, I think you would be interested in this, monuments and

:19:56. > :20:01.fine arts. In October 1945, weeks after the fall of the four -- third

:20:02. > :20:10.Reich, Ann began coordinating the operation at its headquarters in

:20:11. > :20:22.southern Germany . There was a good deal of acquisition of foreign

:20:23. > :20:28.goods. And you were accountable the information together? That's right.

:20:29. > :20:32.In 2007, Ann and The Monuments Men were awarded a National humanities

:20:33. > :20:37.medal by the American government. I was presented with this little

:20:38. > :20:44.flag. It is the stars and stripes. Why have you never under mid? I was

:20:45. > :20:49.told that nobody could do it up as neatly as this except American

:20:50. > :20:52.sailors. The mini mince men -- The Monuments Men have not just been

:20:53. > :20:57.recognised by Hollywood and the American government. 70 years after

:20:58. > :21:00.helping liberate works of art, this year Ann was given an MBE in the new

:21:01. > :21:08.year honours list for her services to the arts.

:21:09. > :21:12.And I'm delighted to say that, the author of the book that The

:21:13. > :21:16.Monuments Men is a storm, joins us now. You have interviewed many of

:21:17. > :21:21.The Monuments Men to compile your blog, so how true is the Hollywood

:21:22. > :21:25.movie to what you wrote? It respects the overarching principles of the

:21:26. > :21:29.story, which is the important part. People will know it was an American

:21:30. > :21:33.and British led operation trying to protect works of art on a scale that

:21:34. > :21:39.had never done in history. Men and women were willing to risk their

:21:40. > :21:43.lives. Two were killed in combat. One was British and another and

:21:44. > :21:47.American . In the cause of this treasure hunt, trying to find these

:21:48. > :21:50.works of art, they found some 5 million stolen objects that they

:21:51. > :21:53.spent six years trying to return to the countries from which they were

:21:54. > :22:01.looted. It begs the question, is art worth a life? For more detail, it is

:22:02. > :22:05.in the book. Let's look at the mechanics of the organisation. How

:22:06. > :22:10.did The Monuments Men know what works of art were missing and who

:22:11. > :22:13.the rightful owners were? These middle-aged museum directors and

:22:14. > :22:15.curators that were The Monuments Men were originally responsible for

:22:16. > :22:26.trying to preserve things and work with the armies and S4C 's. But by

:22:27. > :22:31.the time they got into Paris and found thousands of apartments looted

:22:32. > :22:33.by the Nazis, some of which were Jewish properties, and then they

:22:34. > :22:41.arrived in cities like Bruges to find Michelangelo's work stolen. It

:22:42. > :22:45.became a work of art detectives, tried to track down millions of

:22:46. > :22:48.things stolen by the Nazis, gathering clues and scraps of

:22:49. > :22:51.information that ultimately led the discovery of thousands of salt mines

:22:52. > :23:00.where they were hidden. And there were catalogues. When was this one

:23:01. > :23:07.on earth? 2007. 39 were found at a castle by American forces. Everyone

:23:08. > :23:12.thought that was it. Since then, four albums have emerged from

:23:13. > :23:19.American soldiers that pick them up as souvenirs from Hitler's home.

:23:20. > :23:22.What a souvenir! This is the most pernicious part, this inventory

:23:23. > :23:29.schedule, which lists the family it was stolen from, the name of the

:23:30. > :23:34.painter and the work of art. And then you see this wonderful

:23:35. > :23:41.calligraphy in each of these albums. This is photo album six, and inside

:23:42. > :23:47.is the photograph. These are photographs of works of art stolen

:23:48. > :23:51.by the Nazis. And then Hitler would flip through these catalogues,

:23:52. > :23:55.making decisions about what is of art he wanted. We now know so much

:23:56. > :24:00.because of what you started to an earth. Where did you initially hear

:24:01. > :24:04.about this? In 1996, I moved to France and started studying art and

:24:05. > :24:08.architecture. I walked across the only bridge not destroyed by the

:24:09. > :24:13.Nazis when they fled the city, and I wondered how some of the arts

:24:14. > :24:17.survived. I was embarrassed that it never occurred to me to wonder. I

:24:18. > :24:23.asked people and no one else knew it, and now here we are with this

:24:24. > :24:29.remarkable film and its cast of actors. It is remarkable. So that is

:24:30. > :24:36.Hitler's actual book? He once held it on my lap like me. Thanks very

:24:37. > :24:40.much. The Monuments Men is in cinemas from this Friday. One quote

:24:41. > :24:44.that stuck with me from that movie was that you can take our houses,

:24:45. > :24:48.but you cannot take our achievements. It could be said that

:24:49. > :24:53.we owe a lot to The Monuments Men and women who rescued those precious

:24:54. > :24:56.works of art for future generations. It could also be said that a

:24:57. > :24:59.generation of Jewish museums are huge amount to a man who pioneered

:25:00. > :25:07.the sound of something called skiffle -- British musicians.

:25:08. > :25:11.Today's folk rockers were huge debt to hero of mine who inspired people

:25:12. > :25:16.in the 1950s to make their own instrument and create a new British

:25:17. > :25:22.sound. This musical revolution was spearheaded by one man called Lonnie

:25:23. > :25:26.Donegan. Without Lonnie Donegan, there would be no Beatles, no

:25:27. > :25:28.Rolling Stones, no British invasion of America and I would still be

:25:29. > :25:36.working in a petrol station in Ilford. Here at the studios in

:25:37. > :25:40.London, Lonnie Donegan recorded a track in 1954. The skiffle sound was

:25:41. > :25:44.rough and ready, and folk musician Martin Carty still remembers the

:25:45. > :25:49.first time he heard the single. One of the kids in my class said, have

:25:50. > :25:57.you heard this record? I said no. So I decided I had to get it. It was

:25:58. > :26:02.all new then. Rock 'n' roll was naughty. It was slightly

:26:03. > :26:06.disgraceful. Lonnie may have looked well groomed and tie beyond TV, but

:26:07. > :26:13.his skiffle 's style was raw and energetic, completely different to

:26:14. > :26:15.the music of his parents' era. He mobilised a generation to start

:26:16. > :26:22.making music from anything they could get their hands on. He made me

:26:23. > :26:25.want to play the guitar. Lonnie bought his first guitar is 15.

:26:26. > :26:29.During military service in Vienna, he fell in love with the blues and

:26:30. > :26:34.folk music he heard on American forces radio. These records featured

:26:35. > :26:37.home-made instruments that produced the unpolished sound that became

:26:38. > :26:52.known as skiffle. Wanted a skiffle band constitute? Guitars, a packing

:26:53. > :26:56.case. There was a washboard. Any instrument that was to hand and

:26:57. > :27:00.stuff that was not management. Lonnie Donegan's track was recorded

:27:01. > :27:04.here in the studio when he was playing in Chris Barber's jazz band.

:27:05. > :27:07.When the band ran out of gas numbers, Lonnie suggested they

:27:08. > :27:12.record a skiffle version, a track made famous by a legendary American

:27:13. > :27:26.blues singer. With the wonders of modern technology, I have the

:27:27. > :27:34.original track here. Now let's listen to Lonnie Donegan's version.

:27:35. > :27:39.The difference is that the original keeps a steady rhythm, whereas

:27:40. > :27:44.Lonnie gets up a head of steam and someone's away with him. That is the

:27:45. > :27:49.fun of it, tearing it up. Lonnie had to wait a year for the record to be

:27:50. > :27:54.released, but when it was, it went old. Teenagers could not get enough

:27:55. > :27:58.of his skiffle sound. Lonnie was the one who, as far as I was concerned,

:27:59. > :28:05.was number one. Lonnie Donegan went on to have three number one hits.

:28:06. > :28:10.The skiffle crazy popularised was shortly, but his influence on a new

:28:11. > :28:14.generation stretched foreign white. Lonnie did not think he got the

:28:15. > :28:18.credit he deserved for inventing skiffle and kicking off the British

:28:19. > :28:22.beat movement. I agree, he should be up there with the Beatles and the

:28:23. > :28:27.Rolling Stones and Elvis in the rock 'n' roll Hall of fame. He used to

:28:28. > :28:37.British music, that is kind of true. British music, that is kind of true.

:28:38. > :28:54.# Let the midnight special shine a light on me.

:28:55. > :28:59.Amazing what you can do with a wash board. That is all for this

:29:00. > :29:03.evening. A big thank you to Neil and Robert. We are back tomorrow with a

:29:04. > :29:08.special on the flooding, and Shane Ritchie will be here. If you are

:29:09. > :29:12.still reporting on the weather Tom tell us about it. Bye.