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:00:16. > :00:18.Hello and welcome to The One Show with Matt Baker.

:00:19. > :00:31.Tonight we're joined by a man who knows how to host a party

:00:32. > :00:35.and make all his guests feel welcome.

:00:36. > :00:41.Good evening my Lords, Danes, ladies, gentlemen. I know it's been

:00:42. > :00:46.a very tough year for many of you, what with the shock of both George

:00:47. > :00:52.Clooney and me being removed from the matrimonial market. Oh, thank

:00:53. > :00:57.you so much. You've made one married man very happy, and another one

:00:58. > :00:59.rather jealous. Can I say how deeply hurt I was that you didn't choose to

:01:00. > :01:17.kiss me earlier, Stephen. Hey! . We are not expecting kisses, don't

:01:18. > :01:22.worry. You can save that for Sunday night. How are preparations going?

:01:23. > :01:26.Pretty well. Huber Gooding Junior is going to be here on Sunday as well,

:01:27. > :01:31.so maybe another kiss. And it is Valentine's Day, so we are preparing

:01:32. > :01:36.quite a few Valentine's Day themed bits. Cuba is on the show tomorrow.

:01:37. > :01:40.With these global ceremonies, is it part of the brief to raise the odd

:01:41. > :01:44.eyebrow when you are putting the script and gags together? For me the

:01:45. > :01:49.most difficult thing is to relax people and humour is the best way to

:01:50. > :01:53.relax people. I'm not somebody who is very good at offending people.

:01:54. > :01:57.Well maybe I am, but not deliberately. As in being rude or

:01:58. > :02:02.making people grasp, it's not quite my think. My mother always brought

:02:03. > :02:08.me up to be excessively polite. That makes us feel comfortable. Yes.

:02:09. > :02:21.After all, you correctly used the word host, although you actually

:02:22. > :02:26.said hooost. But I am thinking of it like I am a host with a party on

:02:27. > :02:31.Sunday, I don't want the phone to ring and somebody says they are not

:02:32. > :02:35.coming. All the major nominees are coming, in some cases 6000 miles

:02:36. > :02:40.from Los Angeles or 3000 from New York, or around Britain top and only

:02:41. > :02:44.two cannot make it because they are working elsewhere. That's a great

:02:45. > :02:48.testament to the BAFTAs, and nothing to do with me, but how the BAFTAs

:02:49. > :02:50.have become an important fixture in the calendar. We will talk more

:02:51. > :02:54.about the BAFTAs later. It seems that barely a week goes

:02:55. > :02:57.by without news of another online scam and there are no lengths

:02:58. > :03:00.to which the cyber criminals won't go in order to get

:03:01. > :03:03.their hands on our cash. We sent Dan to meet those fooled

:03:04. > :03:12.by the latest convincing con. The stock market is no longer just

:03:13. > :03:16.the playground of city traders. Now all you need is the Internet to

:03:17. > :03:22.start trading. You can even do it in your own home. There are scores of

:03:23. > :03:27.websites out there claiming easy profits for one willing to take the

:03:28. > :03:33.plunge. But there's no such thing as a dead cert, especially if someone

:03:34. > :03:37.stacks the against you. This former teacher has learnt that, to her

:03:38. > :03:43.cost. She's no fool, she's been trading successfully online for the

:03:44. > :03:48.past few years. It was something I could do at home as I was then

:03:49. > :03:52.coming into retirement, and I didn't have a terrific pension. So I was

:03:53. > :03:57.looking, really, to earn extra income. A website called the Bridge

:03:58. > :04:01.method seems to offer just the thing. It says its boss Jason Taylor

:04:02. > :04:05.designed a software programme that does all the trading for you. The

:04:06. > :04:10.site even has a live feed of successful traits, and videos by

:04:11. > :04:19.users who say the software really works. ?482,000 in the first month,

:04:20. > :04:24.and I'm simply blown away. Convinced, Lindsey paid in ?300 to

:04:25. > :04:28.begin training on the currencies market. She soon learned Jason

:04:29. > :04:37.Taylor's profit guarantee was worthless. To say that he is 100%

:04:38. > :04:42.successful is a light. You are gradually losing more and more and

:04:43. > :04:45.more. And then you will get the automated mails asking you to top up

:04:46. > :04:51.against quite what happened when you contacted them, what their response?

:04:52. > :04:59.You don't get a response. Sadly this is not the only trading software out

:05:00. > :05:02.there failing to deliver. This site says its ground-breaking's system

:05:03. > :05:09.has helped 50,000 traders increased their investment tenfold. Its boss

:05:10. > :05:14.even appeared on an American talk shows. There are a limited number of

:05:15. > :05:20.positions and we expect the hype to be very high. This senior investment

:05:21. > :05:23.analysis is unimpressed. He says these websites trading something

:05:24. > :05:29.called binary options, and each trade is just about. Binary options

:05:30. > :05:33.trading asks you to bet money on the direction of a very unpredictable

:05:34. > :05:39.market, either up or down. Depending on whether you get that bet right

:05:40. > :05:45.money. So it's a really risky way of trading. This site offers a chance

:05:46. > :05:50.to try before you buy with a free demo version of their trading

:05:51. > :05:58.software. Any profits or losses are purely virtual, but Laith agrees to

:05:59. > :06:04.give it a go. Surprise surprise we have won. Our Midas touch holds good

:06:05. > :06:08.throughout the trial. We've won close to ?1000 and we've only been

:06:09. > :06:12.sitting here five minutes. This is suggesting you can make profits time

:06:13. > :06:19.after time after time in a matter of seconds. Using Picard do that on the

:06:20. > :06:27.trading markets. It's not just the guaranteed profits that are bogus,

:06:28. > :06:31.this is not a real talk show, and this is not the real boss. His only

:06:32. > :06:36.real TV appearance was on Dragons then. He told us he had simply taken

:06:37. > :06:41.an acting role in what he believed was a fictional promotional tool. He

:06:42. > :06:49.says he's shocked it's been used to mislead investors. Disclaimers have

:06:50. > :06:55.now been added to the website, but only after we contacted them. And

:06:56. > :06:58.remember the Brit method? Boss Jason Taylor doesn't exist. This photo

:06:59. > :07:03.pops up on lots of Taylor doesn't exist. This photo

:07:04. > :07:10.it's likely the model has no idea how it's being used. And what about

:07:11. > :07:16.those positive online reviews? Well, Lindsey is in for another shot, he

:07:17. > :07:24.is actually an actor. I feel angry with myself that I was so taken in.

:07:25. > :07:28.I feel a fool, a nutter. Quite the actor told us he had no idea his

:07:29. > :07:31.testimonial was being used to scam anyone.

:07:32. > :07:38.We contacted them but we've had no response. In the meantime if you are

:07:39. > :07:43.thinking of becoming a DIY trader, take a tip from a pro-. If you come

:07:44. > :07:46.across a website offering you profits without any risk, be very,

:07:47. > :07:49.very, very cautious because that just doesn't exist.

:07:50. > :07:52.That phrase is all too common isn't it - if it's too good to be true

:07:53. > :07:55.If you want to check whether a trading company

:07:56. > :08:01.is legitimate there are links on our website with advice.

:08:02. > :08:05.This Sunday you'll be hosting the BAFTAs.

:08:06. > :08:09.You've seen pretty much all of the films. Do you know any of the

:08:10. > :08:15.winners? Absolutely not, they are all in sealed envelopes, controlled

:08:16. > :08:18.by these auditing and accounting companies, all very serious, under

:08:19. > :08:25.lock and key. In the late afternoon as the event comes, you see these

:08:26. > :08:27.huge burly guards standing next to the table where the envelopes are

:08:28. > :08:33.put out for the presenters to open and read the winner. Fantastic. When

:08:34. > :08:41.you are presenting you still don't know. It is a complete surprise. Two

:08:42. > :08:47.films have nine nominations, could one of them sweep the board? It is

:08:48. > :08:50.unlikely, but you never know. Most bookies are offering very short odds

:08:51. > :08:56.indeed on Leonardo DiCaprio for best actor. Very much the hot favourite.

:08:57. > :09:00.And Dame Maggie Smith could make history, she has five already, do

:09:01. > :09:04.you think she could go one better? If she does she will be the most

:09:05. > :09:09.decorated BAFTA winner of all time of either gender, which would be

:09:10. > :09:12.quite something. Awards ceremonies have been making headlines,

:09:13. > :09:16.particularly the Oscars, for kind of the wrong reasons to do with

:09:17. > :09:23.diversity. What do you make of that? It's an immensely thorny business.

:09:24. > :09:29.Films, of all art forms, really do reflect the totality of human

:09:30. > :09:34.experience. Fantasy, of course, and superheroes, as well as the dark

:09:35. > :09:39.lives of many. And I think most of us would recognise that things have

:09:40. > :09:43.got better, but that also then maybe haven't got as good as they should

:09:44. > :09:46.be. As it happens with the BAFTAs, we are giving the Fellowship this

:09:47. > :09:50.year to Sidney Poitier. That was decided last year. Nothing to do

:09:51. > :09:56.with the current sort of frenzy over diversity. And he is a black

:09:57. > :10:00.American actor who has forged a fantastic position for himself and

:10:01. > :10:05.for other black actors with immense strength and dignity and passion and

:10:06. > :10:10.power. So we are very proud to be doing that. And it's a coincidence

:10:11. > :10:13.that this whole issue has arisen. But I think the most important thing

:10:14. > :10:17.is that BAFTA does an enormous amount of work men touring young

:10:18. > :10:22.people to make films, rights groups, winning them together with

:10:23. > :10:26.established film makers. Because it will be the new generation making

:10:27. > :10:30.stories about their lives, and we need to make sure that they can then

:10:31. > :10:33.become BAFTA members. Because if BAFTA members are predominantly

:10:34. > :10:36.white and middle-class it is because they have been the film-makers of

:10:37. > :10:40.yesteryear. You can't actually expect BAFTA to go into the middle

:10:41. > :10:44.of the cities and say, you can be in an academy member... You have to be

:10:45. > :10:52.a film-maker to be an academy member. But the young people will

:10:53. > :10:56.change it. A huge amount of work goes into the film-making and what

:10:57. > :10:58.have you, but the event itself, things can take a turn for the

:10:59. > :11:05.worse, all sorts of wonderful moments. As far as those vivid

:11:06. > :11:09.memories of... Hang on a minute... What is the one for you? They tend

:11:10. > :11:12.to be slips, and it is either me falling over which is always

:11:13. > :11:17.embarrassing. Don't get me wrong but I've always found the female

:11:18. > :11:21.obsession with heels peculiar. They are uncomfortable and to me they

:11:22. > :11:28.look preposterous. Certainly I don't know any men who are interested in

:11:29. > :11:32.them, only other women look at them, look at her heels... What? You might

:11:33. > :11:37.as well wear something coming out of your ears, peculiar. When someone in

:11:38. > :11:47.extravagant heels falls over, pardon me, but I do feel joy. We thought we

:11:48. > :11:53.would help you get ready for the unpredictable BAFTAs.

:11:54. > :12:08.We will bring in the audience can change the lighting, it's almost

:12:09. > :12:12.like we are there. Hello, hello. There could be technicalities on the

:12:13. > :12:15.night, so you just have to read the words on the screen, and there might

:12:16. > :12:21.be some left out, so just fill in the blanks. Please welcome your host

:12:22. > :12:23.tonight, Mr Stephen Fry. Thank you very much.

:12:24. > :12:26.Good evening and welcome to the 69th British Academy Film Awards.

:12:27. > :12:28.What a pleasure to be back hosting yet again.

:12:29. > :12:32.I bet you're wondering how many times I've now hosted.

:12:33. > :12:44.What a year for cinema it's been with huge blockbusters,

:12:45. > :12:47.such as Jurassic World - in which the iconic

:12:48. > :12:51.And 'Tyrannosaurus', of course, is Ancient Greek for king.

:12:52. > :12:56.Or tyrant, as we would say. So it means kinking. Because Rex is also

:12:57. > :12:57.King. And who could forget

:12:58. > :13:00.the new Star Wars film? I enjoyed it so much,

:13:01. > :13:02.as soon as I got home from the cinema, I watched all six

:13:03. > :13:12.of the previous Star Wars films. I don't know one, two and three,

:13:13. > :13:16.they were so awful. Four is of course the death Star one, the

:13:17. > :13:19.original. Five is the best of them all.

:13:20. > :13:28.Now, let's thank the first filmmakers in history,

:13:29. > :13:31.the Lumiere brothers from France, whose first names

:13:32. > :13:36.the Lumiere brothers from France, whose first names were French

:13:37. > :13:39.And also thanks to the current President of Chile,

:13:40. > :13:49.But it's been a sad year in the entertainment industry also,

:13:50. > :13:51.with the shock of Zayn leaving One Direction.

:13:52. > :13:53.But all the best to the four remaining members of 1D...

:13:54. > :13:59.I do know that one. There will always be Harry.

:14:00. > :14:01.Now, an obvious outrage is that The One Show inexplicably

:14:02. > :14:09.But I'd personally like to thank The One Show for...

:14:10. > :14:16.Consistently and reliably providing children's entertainment.

:14:17. > :14:23.Marvellous, a primary coloured beauty. Thank you all very much

:14:24. > :14:26.indeed. Wonderful. Brilliant, thank you so much for doing that.

:14:27. > :14:28.The BAFTAs will be broadcast on BBC One on Sunday night.

:14:29. > :14:36.I'm sure it will be Thank you. While Stephen

:14:37. > :14:39.I'm sure it will be revealing the big BAFTA winners on

:14:40. > :14:41.Sunday night, one guaranteed recipient of one of

:14:42. > :14:42.Sunday night, one guaranteed actually have one, it has just come

:14:43. > :14:50.in. It is quite heavy. It will actually have one, it has just come

:14:51. > :15:01.with their costumes including this rather fetching outfit.

:15:02. > :15:12.We have sent Angela Scanlon to look through the country's biggest

:15:13. > :15:17.dressing up box. Maybe it is a little number for Abigail's Party.

:15:18. > :15:23.Or perhaps something from a galaxy far, far away. It is all here under

:15:24. > :15:30.one roof. Started in eight team 13 as a second-hand closing store,

:15:31. > :15:34.Angels is now the world's largest costume house. How did it all start?

:15:35. > :15:40.My great, great, great grandfather set the business up in 1840. Act as

:15:41. > :15:45.were responsible for their own clothes in those days. One day, one

:15:46. > :15:54.actor said to them, I would like to borrow my costume, not by it. So we

:15:55. > :15:58.started hiring. How many pieces are there in the warehouse?

:15:59. > :16:02.Approximately about a million, give or take. This happens to be one of

:16:03. > :16:12.my favourites, and also one of the oldest. Roughly about 150 years old.

:16:13. > :16:19.And this is BAFTA-nominated Lady In The Van, I am guessing? This one was

:16:20. > :16:25.not made for her. It was broken down to make her look like a tramp. The

:16:26. > :16:28.shoes were my mother-in-law's. So she is very happy because she can

:16:29. > :16:35.tell her friends that Maggie Smith wore her shoes. And these...?

:16:36. > :16:39.Actually Del Boy and Rodney, which was an iconic piece of television.

:16:40. > :16:45.It feels like these should be in a museum. You can walk around and find

:16:46. > :16:52.bits of film or television history hanging on the rails. Really what we

:16:53. > :16:58.are is the custodians of film heritage and television heritage

:16:59. > :17:04.over the last 100 years. A highly skilled team run things behind the

:17:05. > :17:10.scenes. The creative manager is Tim's son Jeremy. Eight miles of

:17:11. > :17:15.costume, it is tidier than my bedroom, but is there a system?

:17:16. > :17:22.Everything is chronological, from Edwardian all the way through. And

:17:23. > :17:26.then colour and gender. Searching through these incredible creations

:17:27. > :17:31.got me thinking about just how much skill is involved in making them.

:17:32. > :17:36.They are all made-to-measure, so we have to incorporate people's

:17:37. > :17:40.different shapes and sizes. We are currently working on a show about

:17:41. > :17:46.when Victoria. We are doing some diplomatic tail coats and tunics. We

:17:47. > :17:53.have got an original one here but the fabric is so old, it is what. We

:17:54. > :17:56.are taking the old gold off and remaking the coats. The cost of

:17:57. > :18:02.these now, if we did it from scratch, would be about 10,000.

:18:03. > :18:07.There is a good sense of pride, when things are finished and they go out

:18:08. > :18:12.on time. A year and a half later you see them on screen or at a party,

:18:13. > :18:18.and you think, we made that. I could spend days just walking around here.

:18:19. > :18:22.I do! So, how does it feel to have that contribution recognised by

:18:23. > :18:27.BAFTA? It is amazing. We are really over the moon about it. Normally we

:18:28. > :18:31.are always the bridesmaid, never the bride, and we never get recognition.

:18:32. > :18:34.It is the first one and that makes it even more special. What will you

:18:35. > :18:39.wear?! You will not be stuck for choice, with more than a million

:18:40. > :18:46.pieces?! I think I might wear black. Understated! Well-deserved of their

:18:47. > :18:50.BAFTA award which they will be getting on Sunday night. Now, many

:18:51. > :18:53.of you will remember that Stephen made a ground-breaking documentary

:18:54. > :18:57.about mental health, and his personal struggle with it. Ten years

:18:58. > :18:59.on he is making a follow-up programme for the BBC's

:19:00. > :19:05.mental-health season. Let's have a look at the moment you spend with

:19:06. > :19:10.your psychiatrist. I have a dim memory of arriving here... You

:19:11. > :19:14.arrived, let me remind you, sorry that you were still alive, and

:19:15. > :19:19.wanting to die. And feeling that you should have died. From two years

:19:20. > :19:24.ago, when we first met, just by being very depressed, you were also

:19:25. > :19:30.extremely manic in your speech. You talked and talked and talked about

:19:31. > :19:34.the purposeless of your life, your talents were meaningless and your

:19:35. > :19:38.future seemed hopeless. So it was valuable to put you on to that

:19:39. > :19:42.medication and to get rid of the alcohol at that point and look at

:19:43. > :19:48.your mood state. And I can remember that, that I WAS in pain, but I

:19:49. > :19:53.cannot recreate it. But I remember thinking it, and I meant it. How

:19:54. > :19:57.difficult was it for you to invite the cameras into that situation? It

:19:58. > :20:07.was not easy. The film-maker Russell Wilson, with whom I made the first

:20:08. > :20:10.film, we called it The Not So Secret Life Of The Manic Depressive because

:20:11. > :20:14.we wanted people to understand. Phrase manic depression was what

:20:15. > :20:18.people would understand. Now, we use the phrase bipolar, and it is more

:20:19. > :20:23.commonly understood. But I trusted Ross, is the point. We made the

:20:24. > :20:25.first film and he was very keen, and the controller of BBC One was very,

:20:26. > :20:31.very keen that the BBC should actively engage in helping spread,

:20:32. > :20:36.you know, the word about the truth about what mental health is, as a

:20:37. > :20:44.threat to people and families and to the country generally. I suppose, if

:20:45. > :20:47.you are lucky enough, as I have been, to have had some success in

:20:48. > :20:53.the world, and you have this problem that you have lived with, it seems a

:20:54. > :20:58.small thing to share it. But it is a painful one, obviously. It is like

:20:59. > :21:03.looking at a dark side of yourself. Even watching myself then, I could

:21:04. > :21:08.see that I was less happy than I am now. It is a mixture of that

:21:09. > :21:12.wonderful psychiatrist who I can honestly say saved my life, and of

:21:13. > :21:16.course, the love of my life, my Husband, who has also saved my life,

:21:17. > :21:20.I think, and medication, finding the right medication for me. What I

:21:21. > :21:25.always want to say about mental health is, on the one hand, you have

:21:26. > :21:31.to establish how serious a problem it is, if you have a condition like

:21:32. > :21:36.bipolar, which I have, mine is bipolar one, or indeed bipolar two,

:21:37. > :21:43.or any other kind, it can lead to death. It can lead to self harm,

:21:44. > :21:46.suicide, but also any reliance on drugs, alcohol, things to take you

:21:47. > :21:52.out of this terrible mood you are in, to numb your mind, which can

:21:53. > :21:55.provide a slippery slope to more ill health and destruction of family

:21:56. > :21:59.connections and so on. So you want to emphasise how serious it is.

:22:00. > :22:04.Another part of me wants to shout out how you can live a full and

:22:05. > :22:07.fulfilling life, which is in every respect a proper life, full of love

:22:08. > :22:12.and hope and connection and all the other things. Two are not mutually

:22:13. > :22:17.exclusive. But you have to recognise the first, the seriousness, and...

:22:18. > :22:22.So it helps to be diagnosed? Exactly, it does. You do an

:22:23. > :22:28.inspiring thing by talking about it, for so many people. Have things

:22:29. > :22:33.changed over the last ten years, do you think? I think they have changed

:22:34. > :22:37.enormously. It has entered what people like to call the national

:22:38. > :22:42.conversation. People in schools... Just take self harm. I wanted to do

:22:43. > :22:47.a programme entirely about that. When I was at school, I had never

:22:48. > :22:52.heard the phrase. It had no meaning. I did not have any school friends

:22:53. > :22:55.who cut themselves, for example. I have been to schools to give talks

:22:56. > :23:02.or whatever, and I mention self harm, and kids, afterwards and

:23:03. > :23:06.say... And that is not just in schools in the inner cities, where

:23:07. > :23:10.you might expect some children to have difficult lives, whose parents

:23:11. > :23:13.might be from split families, parents might have drug is used or

:23:14. > :23:18.whatever. But quite literally the most famous public school in the

:23:19. > :23:23.country, the most exclusive. I was giving a talk about one thing and

:23:24. > :23:26.just mentioned are self harm, someone came up and said, yes,

:23:27. > :23:32.actually, it is a real epidemic here. It is a real problem. What is

:23:33. > :23:34.going on?! Can you imagine, you are a parent, you can see a child of

:23:35. > :23:39.yours mutilating themselves? Something desperately wrong. Thank

:23:40. > :23:44.you and it is really inspiring to watch. The Not So Secret Life Of The

:23:45. > :23:48.Manic Depressive: 10 Years On is on on Monday at nine o'clock on BBC

:23:49. > :23:54.One. There is a real joy in sitting and listening to a wonderful voice

:23:55. > :23:58.tell a story. I have spent countless hours going up and down the M1 with

:23:59. > :24:04.my children listening to your dulcet tones, with Harry Potter. So, once

:24:05. > :24:12.upon a time, I cannot do it quite like you, but we sent Cerys to

:24:13. > :24:17.investigate. The flick

:24:18. > :24:21.investigate. Sometimes it almost seems as if

:24:22. > :24:23.rabbits have a secret language all of their own. And

:24:24. > :24:27.rabbits have a secret language all the world of rabbits to

:24:28. > :24:30.rabbits have a secret language all ship down, his classic novel about a

:24:31. > :24:30.grab ship down, his classic novel about a

:24:31. > :24:37.journey to find ship down, his classic novel about a

:24:38. > :24:41.dangerous world. Watership Down was first

:24:42. > :24:45.dangerous world. Watership Down was an instant literary phenomenon and

:24:46. > :24:50.was famously adapted into the much loved

:24:51. > :24:56.was famously adapted into the much is safe now.

:24:57. > :24:58.was famously adapted into the much 95 years old and lives in Hampshire.

:24:59. > :25:00.He remembers 95 years old and lives in Hampshire.

:25:01. > :25:03.his daughters as if it was 95 years old and lives in Hampshire.

:25:04. > :25:09.yesterday. Many years 95 years old and lives in Hampshire.

:25:10. > :25:12.daughters here were little, when we had to go on long car journeys, I

:25:13. > :25:19.used to tell stories. On this particular journey, they asked for a

:25:20. > :25:26.good, long story. And one that we have never heard before. Well, this

:25:27. > :25:31.obviously put me on the spot! I started just off the top of my head.

:25:32. > :25:37.Once upon a time there were two rabbits. The

:25:38. > :25:41.Once upon a time there were two daddy, you ought to write that down.

:25:42. > :25:43.That is too good to waste. Watership Down tells the story of a group of

:25:44. > :25:47.courageous Down tells the story of a group of

:25:48. > :25:52.leave their home after a premonition of coming danger. And so begins a

:25:53. > :25:56.perilous quest to reach the safety of Watership Down.

:25:57. > :26:01.perilous quest to reach the safety would be your enemy. And

:26:02. > :26:05.perilous quest to reach the safety they catch you, they will kill you.

:26:06. > :26:16.But first they must catch you. With swift warning, becoming and full

:26:17. > :26:18.But first they must catch you. With be destroyed! You read it to us in

:26:19. > :26:21.the evenings when we were going to bed, and we corrected it. My

:26:22. > :26:24.the evenings when we were going to she said, you will frighten the

:26:25. > :26:30.children out of their lives! I said, good, carry on! Children like

:26:31. > :26:35.children out of their lives! I said, of scaring sometimes. This is

:26:36. > :26:38.children out of their lives! I said, very bad, some terrible thing,

:26:39. > :26:41.coming closer! Hazel, look, the field! It is covered with blood!

:26:42. > :26:47.coming closer! Hazel, look, the When it was all finished, I left

:26:48. > :26:54.with one publisher after another. And do you know, it was reject it

:26:55. > :26:59.seven times. But Adams persevered, eventually finding success with

:27:00. > :27:02.publisher Rex Collins. Rex Collins said, I like your story and I would

:27:03. > :27:10.like to publish it. I thought, crikey! From there on, the book has

:27:11. > :27:13.never been out of print. One avid reader who fell under the spell of

:27:14. > :27:18.the book during her childhood was our very own Miranda. I brought you

:27:19. > :27:23.here to the real-life Watership Down. And it is a real place as

:27:24. > :27:30.well. I was really surprised to find out! How old were you when you first

:27:31. > :27:35.read it? I think I was about nine or ten. You read it on the fantasy

:27:36. > :27:41.rabbit level. And then I came back to it as a teenager. Then you just

:27:42. > :27:45.yet whole other level. You do not realise it you are learning a huge

:27:46. > :27:49.amount about rabbit society and behaviour. The twitchers, the nose

:27:50. > :27:54.and the ears, the scratching and the thumping. What is the legacy of a

:27:55. > :27:57.book like this? If you look around here, I can imagine the rabbits in

:27:58. > :28:02.this landscape. That is what the book does, it connects you not just

:28:03. > :28:09.with rabbit society, but with the natural world in general. The book

:28:10. > :28:16.has been unexpectedly successful, beyond my wildest dreams. I

:28:17. > :28:20.sometimes wake up wondering if it is real. I did not plan it that way, I

:28:21. > :28:26.just planned it for them. Richard Adams' masterpiece went on to

:28:27. > :28:30.capture the Hearts and minds of millions of readers around the

:28:31. > :28:34.globe. And to think it began as a story a father told for his two

:28:35. > :28:45.daughters in the back of a car. Wonderful! Thank you for joining us

:28:46. > :28:46.tonight, Stephen. And if you would like more information about what

:28:47. > :28:47.Stephen was talking about, please go Tomorrow, Alex will be back

:28:48. > :28:53.on this side of the sofa with Dermot O'Leary -

:28:54. > :29:03.and Cuba Gooding Jr will be here. Back to the old script writing,

:29:04. > :29:05.Stephen Schilling we look forward to seeing it on Sunday night on BBC

:29:06. > :29:08.One! Good night!