:00:14. > :00:16.Hello and welcome to the One Show with Matt Baker.
:00:17. > :00:21.And there's magic in the air tonight!
:00:22. > :00:23.After more than 40 years together our guests have the whole
:00:24. > :00:28.One is loud, tall and opinionated, while the other is small,
:00:29. > :00:34.So we're halfway there given we're a talk show!
:00:35. > :00:40.Please welcome master magicians - Penn and Teller!
:00:41. > :00:54.APPLAUSE Nice to see you.
:00:55. > :01:01.You have got a long walk now. You have to go all the way round the
:01:02. > :01:07.back. I wasn't going to walk in front of you. Make yourself at home.
:01:08. > :01:15.One of the interesting things is Teller, you never talk. Not in the
:01:16. > :01:21.performance. He apps like crazy when we are not working. How did that
:01:22. > :01:27.come about? Teller worked his way through college doing magic at frat
:01:28. > :01:33.parties. I had forgotten what a ring of Dante's hell that was. He founded
:01:34. > :01:36.the stopped talking people grew tired of heckling him. I was working
:01:37. > :01:41.at the same kind of rough environments but I was louder and
:01:42. > :01:45.more aggressive. We were two separate acts on the same bill. We
:01:46. > :01:49.had to keep the integrity of those acts so we could do our solo
:01:50. > :01:57.material and we stuck with that. It was more Teller's my idea. I am not
:01:58. > :02:03.really part of it at all. You are doing 46 weeks a year in Vegas. That
:02:04. > :02:09.is a lot of talking. What happens when you do get a little bit horse
:02:10. > :02:14.or you lose your voice? You kind of power through it for the most part.
:02:15. > :02:20.You have never lost your voice at all? I have but I pump up the mics
:02:21. > :02:29.and I go through in a whisper, go a little growly or find one that I can
:02:30. > :02:32.hit and do that for the show. I can get the information out. And my
:02:33. > :02:39.voice I spend a lot of time yelling outside so I turned the vocal cords
:02:40. > :02:44.to lead the, I am pretty tough. You will be doing some magic for us
:02:45. > :02:52.later on. Penn and Teller are not the only from edible Americans in
:02:53. > :02:58.our studio tonight. Great to be here, by the way, Penn and Teller, I
:02:59. > :03:03.can do magic, by the way. I made the head of the FBI disappear!
:03:04. > :03:07.Impressionist and political comedian Matt Forde is here with his views on
:03:08. > :03:12.the news a little bit later. First though we all love to moan about how
:03:13. > :03:15.much sleep we are getting or not as case may be. A few weeks ago we
:03:16. > :03:23.asked you at home to try out some techniques which might help. It is a
:03:24. > :03:25.bit of a passion project for self-confessed insomniacs Michael
:03:26. > :03:29.Mosley. Sleeping, we are told we should
:03:30. > :03:32.spend a third of our lives doing it, but we don't, making Britain one of
:03:33. > :03:41.the most sleep deprived countries in the world. I'm convinced we are
:03:42. > :03:46.sleepwalking into a sleep crisis. I hardly get any sleep at all. The
:03:47. > :03:51.Internet videos. You think one more video and then you watch 15. I
:03:52. > :03:59.always have thoughts running around my head. The lack of sleep can be
:04:00. > :04:03.dangerous. It is associated with type two diabetes and obesity. I'm
:04:04. > :04:08.going to turn guinea pig to see what is causing my insomnia and if
:04:09. > :04:13.anything out there can help. I have asked the GP to find me three sleep
:04:14. > :04:18.deprived patients to try these treatments on. I will also be doing
:04:19. > :04:24.one of them. I have always been about sleep all my life. I think it
:04:25. > :04:29.runs the family. I have difficulty getting my body clock back after a
:04:30. > :04:34.night shift. I have not slept properly for 20 years. Top of the
:04:35. > :04:38.list is mindfulness. Is about focusing on breathing and what is
:04:39. > :04:45.happening there and then. You have a hot bath or shower about an hour
:04:46. > :04:53.before bed. It is a bit of an old wives tale. Kiwi fruit. What I have
:04:54. > :05:00.here is the prebiotic. It is a bit like fertiliser for the bacteria in
:05:01. > :05:05.my gut. I'm not sure anything is working.
:05:06. > :05:09.Good night. Michael is here now. This captured the imagination when
:05:10. > :05:12.you were on last time. As a self-confessed insomniac yourself,
:05:13. > :05:15.you have tried a lot of different stuff, please tell us you have come
:05:16. > :05:20.up with a solution and you can now get to sleep? We came up with a lot
:05:21. > :05:26.of different things. It was interesting asking the audience to
:05:27. > :05:31.take part. 361 people did log on and they each chose something. These are
:05:32. > :05:39.the six things you asked people to do. ... The one we chose was
:05:40. > :05:46.mindfulness. I do some deep breathing techniques. You are a fan
:05:47. > :05:51.of the breathing? It is breathing, holds a two seconds and then let the
:05:52. > :05:59.air go out. For me it was like the sound of the waves, that sort of
:06:00. > :06:03.rhythm. That one was popular and effective. The warm bath, the
:06:04. > :06:08.avoiding screens, the avoiding alcohol and the morning walk, about
:06:09. > :06:13.50 people did each one of those and broadly speaking 50% of them got
:06:14. > :06:18.benefit and half not so much. The one which didn't go down too well
:06:19. > :06:22.was the kiwi fruit. Not a lot of people did it and it wasn't very
:06:23. > :06:26.effective. Although there was a study done in Taiwan so maybe the
:06:27. > :06:33.Taiwanese are different. They seem to get a benefit. Also, 40 pounds of
:06:34. > :06:48.turkey meat will help. We talked about Turkey last time. Their brains
:06:49. > :06:52.are small. 40 pounds is the cut-off. Michael, we have lots of e-mails
:06:53. > :06:55.from our viewers. Joe wants to know how effective the blue light filters
:06:56. > :07:01.on phones and other electronic devices are? Not really. I spoke to
:07:02. > :07:05.the experts. They said all the manufacturers are busy churning out
:07:06. > :07:08.these things but the problem if it is engaging with the technology
:07:09. > :07:12.which keeps you awake. You are thinking about it and you are
:07:13. > :07:16.engaged in social stuff. You have got to find a really boring book or
:07:17. > :07:21.something like that, that is what you need. Nothing like a really
:07:22. > :07:24.boring economics book. Rob wants to know why he struggles to get to
:07:25. > :07:29.sleep at the week but at the weekend he can sleep for two days. Does a
:07:30. > :07:32.classic stress response. He is worried about his work presumably so
:07:33. > :07:36.he wakes up all the time and thinks about it. One bit of advice is you
:07:37. > :07:40.turn the clock away so you do not look at it but I find if I have an
:07:41. > :07:44.early-morning flight I keep waking up and I keep having those
:07:45. > :07:52.stress-related dreams. Or he can do is switch away the clock or perhaps
:07:53. > :07:55.changes work. You were saying about camping at a weekend and how that
:07:56. > :07:59.can help? They did a study where they found if you went camping for
:08:00. > :08:02.the weekend you were exposed to four or five times more morning light
:08:03. > :08:07.which seems to be really good for you and they found people slept on
:08:08. > :08:11.average for one hour to two hours for the following week. One of the
:08:12. > :08:21.big problems with sleep is the fact we have lit up the night. And we
:08:22. > :08:28.have -- we do not get up with the dawn. And we sleep in one go instead
:08:29. > :08:32.of four at the limit hours and then another go which is the case of
:08:33. > :08:39.primitive cultures. And what about jet lag? I wanted to not turn around
:08:40. > :08:44.on this trip but Piers Morgan wants me to get up early. He fights with
:08:45. > :08:51.everybody but he should not be destroying my sleep! Thank you,
:08:52. > :08:55.Michael, The Truth About Sleep is an BBC One tonight at nine o'clock. One
:08:56. > :08:58.of the main thing is the papers picked up on after our interview
:08:59. > :09:03.with Theresa May and her husband was about divvying up the household
:09:04. > :09:09.chores. I get to decide when I take the bins out, not if I take the bins
:09:10. > :09:14.out. There are boy jobs and build jobs. To those traditional
:09:15. > :09:20.stereotypes still have a place in the modern household? Tommy is on
:09:21. > :09:25.the case. Matt, would you be a laugh and change the light bulb?
:09:26. > :09:28.In my house my wife does the laundry, I do the cooking, she does
:09:29. > :09:36.the washing up and I clean the oven. Is there a thing as typical boy jobs
:09:37. > :09:41.and build jobs. His tasks and your tasks?... We share everything.
:09:42. > :09:46.Except the washing. I put the wrong colours in with the white. It is not
:09:47. > :09:52.that it is a woman's drop, it is just that you are rubbish at it. I
:09:53. > :09:59.do not like to do it. Is it rubbish that there are different jobs in the
:10:00. > :10:03.home? I think it should be shared. Equal opportunities. I was on my
:10:04. > :10:07.own, I had to look after myself. I can cook, clean and wash, do
:10:08. > :10:19.everything. Is that how it should be? Yes. Theresa May was white. What
:10:20. > :10:27.is a woman's drop? Cleaning house, cooking, washing, children. What is
:10:28. > :10:32.the men's drop? Drink, money, home. Show me the money! May be the
:10:33. > :10:39.hoovering because that is heavy work. Women do better. If you both
:10:40. > :10:42.go out to work you have got to share the tasks. I do not think it is
:10:43. > :10:49.therefore the woman to do everything. Housework, washing,
:10:50. > :10:57.cooking, cleaning. That is all you? It is all me. At works. We help each
:10:58. > :11:04.other. Are you married? 60 years. Is there a thing as men's jobs and
:11:05. > :11:10.women's jobs at home? No. We share it together. That is why we have
:11:11. > :11:17.been married for 60 years. Thank you for sorting the light
:11:18. > :11:22.bulb! No problem. Comedian Matt Forde is with us. He will be with us
:11:23. > :11:27.in the run-up to the election. What have you made of the boy and girl
:11:28. > :11:32.drop things? I think it was interesting, the boy 's job is
:11:33. > :11:36.taking at the bins and the girl's job is bringing back fox hunting. It
:11:37. > :11:40.was a bit of a nightmare for Labour yesterday with the leak of their
:11:41. > :11:47.manifesto. What did you make of that? The police said it was leaked
:11:48. > :11:50.by someone who did not want Jeremy Corbyn to be prime ministers said
:11:51. > :11:53.they have narrowed it down to a few million suspects. There will be some
:11:54. > :11:59.policies which will interest a lot of people. There are some ideas like
:12:00. > :12:02.me nationalising the roadways and renationalising energy and Royal
:12:03. > :12:07.Mail. These are big ticket ideas which poll well with conservative
:12:08. > :12:13.voters as well. Is it fully costed? It is fully costed which is the good
:12:14. > :12:17.news but the bad news is Diane Abbott did the maths.
:12:18. > :12:24.LAUGHTER You have been digging deeper and you
:12:25. > :12:28.have noticed some musical tones? It is a very detailed manifesto. There
:12:29. > :12:35.is help for the music industry and a lot of people say it is because
:12:36. > :12:39.Corbyn has friends in the music industry including Stormzy and
:12:40. > :12:45.people say he will be tough on crime and the causes of crime. Many people
:12:46. > :12:54.have said they have had a presidential style campaign --
:12:55. > :12:58.grime. The Tory name is very small compared to hers. They are selling
:12:59. > :13:01.it about with her relationship with the European Union, strengthening
:13:02. > :13:06.her personal hand in the Brexit deal. What is also interesting on
:13:07. > :13:11.the other side, Jeremy Corbyn has been saying things which sound like
:13:12. > :13:15.Donald Trump. This is what Corbyn said but it sounds trump like. A day
:13:16. > :13:22.of reckoning for those who thought they could get away with as
:13:23. > :13:28.stripping our industry, and ripping off consumers. We have four weeks to
:13:29. > :13:35.ruin their party. I do not know what he will say next. Karl Marx seems to
:13:36. > :13:39.have made an appearance this week quite surprisingly? You may remember
:13:40. > :13:43.in 2015 Ed Miliband said he wanted to freeze energy prices which polled
:13:44. > :13:48.well with the public. The Tories said it was Marxism and arch common
:13:49. > :13:51.is. Now the Tories are saying they would go further, not just freeze
:13:52. > :13:56.prices but cap prices into the long-term so it turns out actually
:13:57. > :14:01.it was not Marxist enough for the Tories. A lot of people have said
:14:02. > :14:05.Theresa May is turning into Ed Miliband but the crucial thing, the
:14:06. > :14:15.knack Ed Miliband had was if he was asked a question he did not like he
:14:16. > :14:21.would ask himself a new question. What colour is the sky? Matt, if you
:14:22. > :14:27.are asking me if I have a plan for the economy, I have. And you have
:14:28. > :14:32.found an interesting map recently. This is interesting, in an age where
:14:33. > :14:38.Matt and grass are shared online, this is a map of the UK. You may
:14:39. > :14:42.think that is about likely election results. Actually, breathed a sigh
:14:43. > :14:46.of relief. It is from the Woodland Trust and it is about how many
:14:47. > :14:50.bluebells have been spotted. If you do look closely at it it would be
:14:51. > :14:58.ridiculous because the Tories will do a lot better than that. Thank
:14:59. > :15:01.you, Matt! You can catch more of that on an spun with Matt Forde
:15:02. > :15:08.every Wednesday and Sunday in the run-up to the election on Dave. We
:15:09. > :15:14.always like to give you something new on this show so a magician with
:15:15. > :15:16.a concrete block on his head should do the trick. Let's hear it
:15:17. > :15:28.everybody for Penn and Teller! I need someone from the audience,
:15:29. > :15:36.what is your name? Natalia. Thank you. I am Penn, this is Teller. You
:15:37. > :15:40.are wearing very attractive and fashionable glasses, do you wear
:15:41. > :15:45.them for the fashion or are they corrective? They are prescribed. Are
:15:46. > :15:49.you near-sighted or far-sighted? I am far-sighted. Let me take a look
:15:50. > :15:55.at them... They are beautiful. Really nice, and so clean! It's
:15:56. > :16:01.astonishing... My glasses often look like I clean them off with a beef
:16:02. > :16:05.patty. These are beautiful. Can you see me OK? I will put these here.
:16:06. > :16:12.With you in front of the audience, they trust me differently. If I
:16:13. > :16:16.reached into my pocket and got a billiard ball, and I say that this
:16:17. > :16:22.is a billiard ball, some people would not believe me, they sell
:16:23. > :16:28.billiard ball shells, and collapsible ones, but also because I
:16:29. > :16:33.am a liar. Let me prove that this is a solid billiard ball. With you
:16:34. > :16:36.here, I do not have to do that but I do it because I know it is Teller
:16:37. > :16:47.and it brings me joy! Make sure that is a real billiard ball, Natalia. Is
:16:48. > :16:53.it real? It is. Is this a real magic wand? Who cares! It is just dour
:16:54. > :17:01.covered with adhesive paper. Can you see OK? I am going to tap this three
:17:02. > :17:09.times, and on the third time it will vanish. Watch this carefully... One,
:17:10. > :17:16.two, three... LAUGHTER CLAPPING
:17:17. > :17:24.Did that take two seconds? If you have two seconds of full body
:17:25. > :17:28.wonder? And then collapsing into abject disappointment? That's all I
:17:29. > :17:32.get... Fortunately, for you and everyone else, we are two person
:17:33. > :17:37.performing ensemble. Teller is really good at this. Stand back and
:17:38. > :17:43.watch all of this... I will give you your glasses, hang on... Natalia!
:17:44. > :17:47.One of two things has happened... Either your glasses have magically
:17:48. > :17:52.vanished, or I no longer care about breaking them... Watch this... This
:17:53. > :18:00.might be a little more... Magical here. I'm going to hit him with a
:18:01. > :18:06.hammer... Natalia, I don't expect you to be able to see from over
:18:07. > :18:12.there... Will you go over there and pick those glasses off his head? And
:18:13. > :18:23.put them on your own... CLAPPING Are they your glasses? Clean them
:18:24. > :18:29.off... CLAPPING Absolutely superb! Amazing.
:18:30. > :18:34.Brilliant. How do you follow that? With just an illusion?
:18:35. > :18:38.# Prince Charming... In the early 80s, a whole raft of eye-catching
:18:39. > :18:41.new bands were coming from the club scene and taking the charts by
:18:42. > :18:47.storm. It was as much about the image as it was about the music. One
:18:48. > :18:56.of the frontrunners was Ligeon and his band, Imagination. In 1982, his
:18:57. > :19:02.son Just an Elution became a big hit. It was years of hard work to
:19:03. > :19:06.create the package... It always stood out, the sound of the music
:19:07. > :19:10.and the voices, and how we wrote the songs. We wanted to ensure that
:19:11. > :19:15.visually it was something that we would remember. To his best friend
:19:16. > :19:18.from school, the young man was always headed for success... He just
:19:19. > :19:26.had that flair. You heard him before you saw him! Whether it was singing
:19:27. > :19:31.at the top of his voice or with his ghetto blaster... Leee loves to
:19:32. > :19:37.arrive. Was he called Leee back then? No, he was Leslie McGregor, I
:19:38. > :19:42.called John, but then this triple T came about... What does it stand
:19:43. > :19:50.for? Extra exciting energy, or erotic, it depends on the day! When
:19:51. > :19:55.Leee recruited his bassist and drummer to form the band
:19:56. > :20:00.Imagination, Leee was there to share in their success... People would
:20:01. > :20:05.think I was part of the band, we would go to these swanky places, but
:20:06. > :20:09.who am I to say that I am not? He's got a brilliant voice, not many
:20:10. > :20:15.people can sing falsetto like that. Undoubtably they did a Top of the
:20:16. > :20:21.Pops performance that stuck in people's heads, sales catapulted.
:20:22. > :20:26.You had dreamt of this as a kid. The sound was unique, because the sound
:20:27. > :20:30.was driven by synthesised bass. There are no guitars, but a lot of
:20:31. > :20:35.riffs on the track, but they are played by a synthesiser.
:20:36. > :20:39.Simple, not cluttered. The tempo was much slower. Their success meant
:20:40. > :20:45.that Leee and their Patrice 's were under pressure to get their second
:20:46. > :20:50.album out straightaway. Suddenly, it changes. It is a job, it is work.
:20:51. > :20:55.And it is an industry. We've had a top album but now we need to start
:20:56. > :20:59.again from scratch. When will you write that hit song? The hit song
:21:00. > :21:04.came about because of Leee's new-found cynicism about the music
:21:05. > :21:09.business. I was disenchanted about things going on in the industry.
:21:10. > :21:15.Everything you saw, that you thought was real, wasn't. It was
:21:16. > :21:18.frustrating. You find that life became disillusioned. The pressure
:21:19. > :21:22.came to a head in the studio when Leee wanted to change is vocal style
:21:23. > :21:27.on the track and got into an argument with his producers. We were
:21:28. > :21:31.treading a thin line with what work went essentially pop records, but
:21:32. > :21:35.were making the dance charts. There was a formula that we wanted to
:21:36. > :21:42.stick to. Why did you want to change your voice? I love a wreath for
:21:43. > :21:47.Franklin. I wanted to do her voice. You think, why do I want to change
:21:48. > :21:53.this? -- Aretha Franklin. My mate was in the studio and said, you need
:21:54. > :21:58.to take a break. Keep your eyes on the prize, do not get derailed. I
:21:59. > :22:02.would tell him what he needs to know. Not necessarily what he wanted
:22:03. > :22:06.to know. Similar to myself, to does the same. I went outside and I
:22:07. > :22:13.remember clearly, it was a lovely night. It was hot. I went into the
:22:14. > :22:16.studio and did what I wanted. They go darling, you are fantastic, why
:22:17. > :22:23.did you do this before! It became one of our biggest hits. Leee may
:22:24. > :22:28.not wear outrageous costumes any more but today he is creating a
:22:29. > :22:35.special illusion here in a mirror maze just for the one show...
:22:36. > :22:45.# Is it really magic in the air? You come into the industry and think,
:22:46. > :22:53.will it last for ever? Next thing you know, that is it.
:22:54. > :22:57.# Just an illusion... My friends kept me grounded. 35 years later
:22:58. > :23:01.they are still there and I think that is what has sustained me. It
:23:02. > :23:11.shows that not everything is an illusion. Not friendship... STUDIO:
:23:12. > :23:18.You have got a good falsetto... Thanks! Carry on... He won't do it!
:23:19. > :23:24.If it has got you grooving, the new album is out on the 9th of June,
:23:25. > :23:32.called Retropia. Penn and Teller are with us on the sofa! Do you like
:23:33. > :23:37.songs about magic? No, if I hear magic man by Heart one more time...
:23:38. > :23:42.Every radio show I go on, they think it is clever! Playing a song from 40
:23:43. > :23:48.years ago that wasn't that good anyway but has that word in it...
:23:49. > :23:51.You touched on it at the start of the programme about how things were
:23:52. > :23:56.when he first got together. A lovely photo here, you been working
:23:57. > :24:01.together for more than 40 years. When you started out, what was the
:24:02. > :24:05.style of the show? Our style hasn't changed that much, I think we've got
:24:06. > :24:10.a bit weird as we've got older. And a little braver, which is dangerous.
:24:11. > :24:17.We are one of the few acts in show business who are more successful
:24:18. > :24:23.than we planned. We played for creepy little groups of people. It
:24:24. > :24:31.gave us a certain kind of humorous where we do not really worry too
:24:32. > :24:35.much about trying to be exactly popular, we just do what we think is
:24:36. > :24:44.good, and it's turned out that we have always been presently supplies.
:24:45. > :24:47.-- is a surprised. 40 years of working together and to do so well,
:24:48. > :24:51.it is incredible. There must be moments where you have creative
:24:52. > :24:58.differences, how do you work those out? Creative differences are what
:24:59. > :25:02.the fun is. We want to fight over every moment of the show but we do
:25:03. > :25:06.not have personal differences. Creative differences is a euphemism,
:25:07. > :25:10.it normally means that there are personal differences and calling it
:25:11. > :25:14.creative differences. You don't spend that much time together? We
:25:15. > :25:19.spend a lot of time together but not socially. We have our own lives. We
:25:20. > :25:25.first got together and it was not affection but respect. We wanted to
:25:26. > :25:31.work together. LAUGHTER It lasted a lot longer than
:25:32. > :25:35.affection, respect. Is one of you in charge of the technical side of
:25:36. > :25:39.coming up with new tricks? Teller is the brains, no doubt of that. The
:25:40. > :25:45.brains would not be the one talking all the time! Very good. You
:25:46. > :25:52.are bringing your show over to the UK, you will be going up to Glasgow,
:25:53. > :25:56.for the first time in Scotland. What can people expect? Most people who
:25:57. > :26:02.do a show in Las Vegas, it is well known and you move there, and you
:26:03. > :26:07.spend your days golfing and do the same show every night. We do not
:26:08. > :26:12.like golf, so we are working on new material. Do you? It is almost all
:26:13. > :26:17.knew from the last time that we played in the UK. We were arguing
:26:18. > :26:22.about that before. 80%, maybe more. This is stuff that isn't seen on
:26:23. > :26:26.television. Do you come over with huge crates of stuff? I'm not in
:26:27. > :26:29.charge of the containers, that is someone else's job. Shipping
:26:30. > :26:34.containers come across and we send stuff out, we have duplicates that
:26:35. > :26:38.go out a couple of months in advance, and we have a number of
:26:39. > :26:44.props that we need to make up for our lack of talent. LAUGHTER
:26:45. > :26:50.More big things to bring onstage! You say about keeping things fresh,
:26:51. > :26:53.how? You have new tricks for all of these shows? Yeah, we do it with
:26:54. > :26:59.brute force, we normally sit down over coffee, but one thing that has
:27:00. > :27:02.changed, it used to be 20 years ago when we were pitching an idea to one
:27:03. > :27:08.another, we would pitch things where this will be easy, we can do this
:27:09. > :27:11.easy, it will work out... Now, we only care about the hard stuff
:27:12. > :27:18.because we have enough new material to last us until we are dead. We
:27:19. > :27:26.intend to die in office! Die onstage, literally, for a change.
:27:27. > :27:29.So, we mostly want to do stuff that is wicked hard, things that others
:27:30. > :27:34.haven't done before and what we haven't done. And you loved and
:27:35. > :27:42.hated it almost in the magic world, because often... You give how you do
:27:43. > :27:48.the tricks away. Which some people in the Magic Circle... It's got an
:27:49. > :27:53.odd relationship with us. They asked us to do a museum case commemorating
:27:54. > :28:00.us. We have a picture of it... That is right in their museum. I was the
:28:01. > :28:03.one that wrote the Paul Daniels obituary for their magazine. We
:28:04. > :28:08.loved him. Even though we have written that stuff, they will not
:28:09. > :28:12.let us be members! We are not allowed to be members of a club that
:28:13. > :28:16.has our stuff in their museum, because they have this hard and fast
:28:17. > :28:25.rule about giving away magic secrets which is amazing, because defining a
:28:26. > :28:33.magic secrets so carefully, this would get us out of the Magic
:28:34. > :28:41.Circle... It is a coven of old men keeping secrets... And on that
:28:42. > :28:50.note... They just don't like us, we like them! CLAPPING
:28:51. > :28:53.Tickets are on sale now. Alex is back tomorrow with co-host Michael
:28:54. > :29:03.Ball. Don't all screen at once but Harry Styles will be performing
:29:04. > :29:05.outside. Nobody screams at all! Not one person screams! Come on, scream!