:00:15. > :00:17.Hello and welcome to The One Show, with Matt Baker...
:00:18. > :00:23.One of Britain's favourite comedians is undergoing training
:00:24. > :00:27.at the European Astronaut Training Centre in Cologne,
:00:28. > :00:32.But who is this comedian who is taking "one small step
:00:33. > :00:34.for a comedian", but "one giant leap for comedian kind"?
:00:35. > :00:43.We'll be beaming over to John and Liz Bonin a bit later on.
:00:44. > :00:48.And from Stargazing, to two of EastEnder's biggest stars!
:00:49. > :00:50.I think you'll find they're the Moons.
:00:51. > :00:54.Well, to be honest, it's complicated.
:00:55. > :00:57.Please welcome, Jessie Wallace and Shane Richie.
:00:58. > :01:14.We saw John doing some astronaut training. Who would make the best
:01:15. > :01:25.astronaut, do you think, out of you two? She is a bit spacey, a bit air
:01:26. > :01:30.head. Constantly gazing at the stars, and you?! To be honest, you
:01:31. > :01:33.were telling us earlier on that today, you went out and bought a
:01:34. > :01:37.pair of moon boots, but it is the quite an interesting reason, isn't
:01:38. > :01:43.it? Why is that? You were telling us! I have come off crutches, after
:01:44. > :01:52.I broke my leg, and I was wearing this big pump up air boot. Look at
:01:53. > :01:56.the size of it! Everybody said, break a leg. I said, if one more
:01:57. > :02:02.person says that! I have come out of that boot now and I have treated
:02:03. > :02:06.myself to a pair of shoes. We were in town rehearsing, and you walked
:02:07. > :02:11.for the first time in shoes. It was like walking down the road with...!
:02:12. > :02:15.We will find out what you were rehearsing for a little bit later.
:02:16. > :02:18.Now, from 8am this morning, 55,000 junior doctors,
:02:19. > :02:21.about one third of the workforce, went on 24-hour strike,
:02:22. > :02:24.leaving hospitals in England facing major disruption.
:02:25. > :02:26.Only level 5 emergency care is being provided,
:02:27. > :02:28.and with two further strikes planned, Angela Rippon headed
:02:29. > :02:39.Oxfordshire's mein A Hospital is the John Radcliffe. Last night I
:02:40. > :02:42.joined some of the 100 or so junior doctors it employs as they prepared
:02:43. > :02:50.to strike for the first time in 40 years. And as the vice president of
:02:51. > :02:54.the Patients Association I want to find out why the junior doctors are
:02:55. > :02:57.in a situation where, instead of being able to negotiate around the
:02:58. > :03:02.table, they have to stand on a picket line? They cannot make their
:03:03. > :03:07.banners on hospital property, so we have come to the home of one of the
:03:08. > :03:11.junior doctors. She has got more than five years experience, but
:03:12. > :03:15.Rachel is still a junior doctor. What is it about the plan for a
:03:16. > :03:21.seven-day NHS which makes her willing to strike? We are a finite
:03:22. > :03:24.pot of doctors. He is not giving us any extra money for more doctors to
:03:25. > :03:29.provide these new services. That means the only way they can be
:03:30. > :03:32.provided is if doctors like me are forced to work longer and harder
:03:33. > :03:39.than we already do. You say it will be dangerous - in what way will it
:03:40. > :03:42.be dangerous for patients? At the moment hospital trusts can be
:03:43. > :03:45.penalised financially if they make as work longer hours than we are
:03:46. > :03:50.meant to do. And that is very important because it disincentivise
:03:51. > :03:55.is them from essentially abusing us. Part of he is hunt's contract is the
:03:56. > :04:00.removal of those safeguards. In his new system, the financial penalties
:04:01. > :04:07.which other to safeguard us as well as patients are no longer going to
:04:08. > :04:12.be fines paid to doctor, it will be fines which the hospital trusts paid
:04:13. > :04:16.to themselves, which is ridiculous. While everybody here support the
:04:17. > :04:20.strike, not all of them will be on the picket line. Some of them will
:04:21. > :04:24.be working as normal. We pledged to provide emergency care, and I am an
:04:25. > :04:30.obstetrician, so I will be doing 12 hours on the labour ward, living
:04:31. > :04:35.babies for women. What do you find unacceptable about the current
:04:36. > :04:38.contract? I appreciate some of the governments early moves to make out
:04:39. > :04:43.of hours working better, I think you need to river reward the people
:04:44. > :04:47.doing that care. Do you think a seven-day NHS in the end will be
:04:48. > :04:51.good for the country? At the moment the NHS is on its knees, stretched
:04:52. > :04:57.to its limit. To stretch it further with this plan at this current time
:04:58. > :04:59.is a dangerous and difficult decision and something which should
:05:00. > :05:05.not be gone into without a lot of thought. With eight months to go
:05:06. > :05:09.before the new contract kicks in, I am struggling to understand why the
:05:10. > :05:13.junior doctors feel the need to strike now rather than sit round the
:05:14. > :05:17.table and devise a way to make the changes actually work. To have a
:05:18. > :05:22.meaningful negotiation, something is essential, which is trust. I would
:05:23. > :05:27.not trust Jeremy Hunt if he was trying to sell me a used car, let
:05:28. > :05:30.alone have the future of the NHS in his hands. Are you saying this is a
:05:31. > :05:33.political argument you are having with the Secretary of State for
:05:34. > :05:38.Health? There is only one thing I care about in this dispute, which is
:05:39. > :05:44.the safety of patients. This is not a political game, this is patients'
:05:45. > :05:48.lives. In spite of a last-minute appeal by the Prime Minister
:05:49. > :05:51.yesterday, the junior doctors' strike is going ahead across the
:05:52. > :05:55.country. We had barely set up our cameras before the junior doctors
:05:56. > :05:59.were told to get off hospital property. We have come up to the
:06:00. > :06:05.junction with the main road. Already, local people are coming out
:06:06. > :06:10.to support them. The junior doctors, when I come up here, the service you
:06:11. > :06:14.get to, you could not get anywhere. If I paid for it I would not get a
:06:15. > :06:19.better service. Others are less sure. I would rather they were not
:06:20. > :06:24.striking. I don't think either side have especially put their position
:06:25. > :06:29.clearly out. What do you think about doctors going out on strike today? I
:06:30. > :06:33.think it is very sad that they feel it is necessary. I can understand to
:06:34. > :06:37.a certain extent, but I feel everybody should be able to sit the
:06:38. > :06:44.table and work it out. I really have been impressed by the passion and
:06:45. > :06:49.the validity of many of these doctors' arguments. So what we need
:06:50. > :06:52.now is tough but honourable negotiation to settle this dispute.
:06:53. > :06:57.But we also need more doctors. And if we can't manage that, then it is
:06:58. > :06:59.not just the safety of patients which will be put at risk, but the
:07:00. > :07:02.very heart of the NHS itself. Angela joins us now in her capacity
:07:03. > :07:13.as the vice-president The Association is opposed to the
:07:14. > :07:17.strike. Today, the Health Secretary, Jeremy Hunt, has said that the
:07:18. > :07:21.number who have gone into work has shown the values of the vast
:07:22. > :07:25.majority of junior doctors. At the moment, we have an NHS where if you
:07:26. > :07:30.have a stroke at the weekend, you are 20% more likely to die, which
:07:31. > :07:33.cannot be acceptable. So, what are we hearing about the effect of
:07:34. > :07:41.today's strike? The figures are pretty eye-watering. 3454 operations
:07:42. > :07:44.have been cancelled. But of course the various trusts had plenty of
:07:45. > :07:49.opportunity to plan for today. You have also got things like routine
:07:50. > :07:53.tests and consultations, many of which were also cancelled. But as we
:07:54. > :07:56.heard, some of the junior doctors were providing emergency service
:07:57. > :08:03.today for people like cancer patients and those who need
:08:04. > :08:10.dialysis, so their treatment would not be interrupted. But it has been
:08:11. > :08:13.a bad day for a lot of patients. The organisation you represent are
:08:14. > :08:18.opposed to the strike, but having spent time with the junior doctors,
:08:19. > :08:22.have you changed your mind? No, I haven't. Yes, I do think that if you
:08:23. > :08:26.have the kind of issues which the doctors are arguing about, these are
:08:27. > :08:29.things which should be settled around a table. They should be
:08:30. > :08:33.discussing and coming to an agreement, they should not be on the
:08:34. > :08:39.picket line. But they have been in talks for 2.5 years. I know. One
:08:40. > :08:44.point Jeremy Hunt has made today - the seven-day operation is really at
:08:45. > :08:48.the heart of all of this, and frankly it is not right for doctors
:08:49. > :08:51.to say they cannot make it work. They will have to make it work
:08:52. > :08:56.because the British public will never operate by only being ill
:08:57. > :09:01.Monday to Friday. They will have heart attacks, strokes, accidents,
:09:02. > :09:07.on a Saturday and a Sunday. They expect a 24/7 health service. Most
:09:08. > :09:12.importantly today, because I still believe they should not have gone on
:09:13. > :09:15.strike and we should have a seven day a week NHS, the major point the
:09:16. > :09:20.doctors made is that they cannot make it work because they do not
:09:21. > :09:25.have enough doctors. 54,000 junior doc is, who already tired on their
:09:26. > :09:29.feet because of the hours they work, stretched to the limit, trying to
:09:30. > :09:33.work a contract which runs for five days, that same number of doctors
:09:34. > :09:37.trying to make it work for seven days, means they will go over the
:09:38. > :09:41.edge. We need more doctors. That I am afraid is at the heart of most of
:09:42. > :09:45.the arguments, and they have got to sort it out around the table. And we
:09:46. > :09:55.will be watching very closely. Shane and Jessie, we know you have
:09:56. > :10:04.worked together for something like 30 years. It feels like 40! We have
:10:05. > :10:07.had affairs, arson... Babies swaps! And then it all came together
:10:08. > :10:17.because you won the lottery! Yes, we did! It has all happened to Kat and
:10:18. > :10:24.Alfie. But three weeks today, exactly, you are on stage together
:10:25. > :10:32.for the first time in a play called Perfect murder. Tell us about it. It
:10:33. > :10:36.was based on a wonderful novel, and it is an adaptation from the book.
:10:37. > :10:42.It is about this couple who have been married for 20 years, the
:10:43. > :10:45.marriage is coming to an end, they have got no children, and they end
:10:46. > :10:50.up loathing and this testing each other. And so one of us decides to
:10:51. > :10:55.kill the other. -- testing each other. Do not want to give too much
:10:56. > :11:01.away. This is the new play we are talking about, not EastEnders, isn't
:11:02. > :11:06.it?! It could be EastEnders, Yes! It is a black comedy, though, it is
:11:07. > :11:13.very funny. We met the cast yesterday for the first time - it is
:11:14. > :11:17.a wonderful cast. You have heard a read-through already. Yes,
:11:18. > :11:25.yesterday. And we started warehousing today. It was very
:11:26. > :11:31.intense! We were just comparing it to a read-through on The One Show.
:11:32. > :11:39.This was ours this afternoon! I know that is exactly what goes on! That
:11:40. > :11:42.was the only one we could show! But you are very talented actors, the
:11:43. > :11:46.pair of you, but it must be difficult for you, having worked so
:11:47. > :11:50.closely together for so many years, to see different characters within
:11:51. > :11:54.each other, is that a challenge? Not really. Because we have worked so
:11:55. > :11:58.closely together and we are such close friends, we know how each
:11:59. > :12:03.other works. Playing two different characters, it is exciting. And they
:12:04. > :12:11.are very, very different. Yes, very different. So it must be a joy for
:12:12. > :12:15.you to do that together. It is very nerve-wracking, though. It feels
:12:16. > :12:19.like a lot of pressure. We are literally nine weeks all over the
:12:20. > :12:23.country. We kicked off in shell them in a few weeks. Unlike EastEnders,
:12:24. > :12:29.if you get it wrong, stop, cut. Going back to the theatre... I am
:12:30. > :12:33.already thinking about it. I might have to go to the toilet in a
:12:34. > :12:39.minute. In EastEnders, you do it and then you throw the script away. With
:12:40. > :12:43.this one, you keep the same script until April 2nd. How much do you
:12:44. > :12:49.think it will evolve heavily after nine weeks, it will be a musical. I
:12:50. > :12:56.am kidding! It is a very pacey play, isn't it? You have always got that
:12:57. > :13:00.feeling, and the fear, of doing the wrong thing, forgetting your lines.
:13:01. > :13:04.But because we have worked so closely together, if you drop the
:13:05. > :13:09.ball, you will be able to pick it up. The funny thing is, though, it
:13:10. > :13:14.is still about murder, which not a funny subject in itself. But what
:13:15. > :13:23.happens around it is very dark. I would like to go and see it. Well,
:13:24. > :13:28.the touring show, The Perfect Murder, begins in Cheltenham and
:13:29. > :13:32.February 2nd and goes nationwide until April 2nd. I hope you come and
:13:33. > :13:35.see it. We would love to. Now, let's head over live
:13:36. > :13:38.to Cologne in Germany, where comedian John Bishop
:13:39. > :13:40.is following in the footsteps of Astronaut Major Tim Peake
:13:41. > :13:42.for tonight's Stargazing Live. Britain calling Liz Bonin -
:13:43. > :13:58.can you hear us? Thank you very much. Welcome to the
:13:59. > :14:02.European Astronaut Training Centre, just outside of Cologne in Germany.
:14:03. > :14:06.We are in the neutral buoyancy facility, an epic set up with this
:14:07. > :14:10.pool, which has lots of goodies in it. There is a replica of the
:14:11. > :14:16.Columbus module, which is basically Europe's Spacelab on the ISS. Lots
:14:17. > :14:22.of submersible work stations and other great things. This is where
:14:23. > :14:27.astronauts begin to train for spacewalks. As we all know, our very
:14:28. > :14:31.own Tim Peake is doing his very first spacewalk on Friday. And this
:14:32. > :14:36.is where it all began. He started training in this pool and embarked
:14:37. > :14:40.on 150 hours of training to get ready for what has to be the most
:14:41. > :14:46.challenging and difficult task an astronaut has to do on the ISS.
:14:47. > :14:50.Let's go into the control room now. The lead instructor tonight is
:14:51. > :14:54.supervising a training session as we speak. But he is also in charge of
:14:55. > :14:59.our very own training astronaut for the week, Mr John Bishop, who is
:15:00. > :15:03.getting some tips. This is what you will have to do later tonight! How
:15:04. > :15:11.do you feel? I am excited. It is every boy's dream. And you have done
:15:12. > :15:14.some diving before. How are you marrying the two, your experience,
:15:15. > :15:20.with something completely weird? This is completely different,
:15:21. > :15:24.because you are diving in a simulated spacesuit, so you have got
:15:25. > :15:26.to try and manoeuvre your fingers as if you are outside the space
:15:27. > :15:36.station. You are wearing bulky gloves. Yes. The whole thing. It is
:15:37. > :15:40.pretty extraordinary when you look at it on the screen. It is one of
:15:41. > :15:45.those experiences that you cannot imagine being able to do. People are
:15:46. > :15:49.coming home from work. They have had their life. This goes on every day
:15:50. > :15:54.here. This is what people call work. It is exciting. It is fantastic to
:15:55. > :15:57.get to come to places like this and get an insight into what some people
:15:58. > :16:02.are doing on a regular workday. You had a look around the centre - what
:16:03. > :16:07.did you make of the place? You met some astronauts already. Italy's
:16:08. > :16:11.first astronaut, among them. Also, the Danish astronaut Andreas
:16:12. > :16:15.Mogensen is here. Denmark's ONLY astronaut! How have you felt about
:16:16. > :16:22.all of this? It's quite inspiring. Everybody's
:16:23. > :16:30.working to the end goal. Everybody's working. For us, for the UK, to have
:16:31. > :16:35.Tim Peake at the top of that pyramid. It's quite empowering. It
:16:36. > :16:40.ises. John Bishop will be ept aring Tim Peake tonight for us. I'm the
:16:41. > :16:47.new Tim Peake. I am he what Tim Peake would be if he wasn't - It
:16:48. > :16:55.will be amazing. BBC Two, 9.00pm. Don't miss it. Good luck to John.
:16:56. > :17:05.Stargazing Live is on tonight at 9.00pm on BBC Two and continues
:17:06. > :17:08.Wednesday and Thursday. Nicola Sturgeon has announced that every
:17:09. > :17:13.property affected in Scotland will get a grant of ?1,500. Because of
:17:14. > :17:16.the unprecedented scale of the flooding additional floods of ?12
:17:17. > :17:25.million have been allocated to local authorities. Sarah
:17:26. > :17:29.Mack is in Aberdeenshire where the lion's share of that funding has
:17:30. > :17:33.been sent. For large parts of Northern Ireland and Scotland 2015
:17:34. > :17:40.had a sting in its tail. It's name was Frank. On the last two-days of
:17:41. > :17:44.the year there was so much rain, several rivers burst their banks
:17:45. > :17:49.including the Dee here in Aberdeenshire. The waters here have
:17:50. > :17:56.now receded and I've come to see the extent of the damage. This is all
:17:57. > :18:01.that remains of the caravan park. This is where the vans used to be.
:18:02. > :18:06.This whole area was under six feet of water. The power of the water
:18:07. > :18:12.pushed all the vans this way, leaving utter devastation. What
:18:13. > :18:17.greeted you when you came out here? Disaster. Not to put too Tyne a
:18:18. > :18:22.pound point on it, it looks like a sort of bomb site? Yes, it does. It
:18:23. > :18:28.certainly does. The This is our one here. This one here? Yeah. Have you
:18:29. > :18:35.counted the cost of this? It's a write-off. Caravans like this are
:18:36. > :18:40.not cheap? No, ?50,000. A fair amount? Aye, it is, plus all the
:18:41. > :18:51.extras, you know, all the bits and pieces. So, I have come to the town
:18:52. > :18:55.hall which is the main hub for the recovery plan. They are trying to
:18:56. > :19:00.establish why it was that they were inundated by a large rush of water
:19:01. > :19:04.in such a short period. You've got initial breach coming through here
:19:05. > :19:08.which ran water down the back of the town. We have another breach that
:19:09. > :19:13.came straight through the golf course and we had a wave and surge
:19:14. > :19:17.coming off the river. When the town was beginning to be evacuated, the
:19:18. > :19:24.police have told us when they started here it was dry. 10 minutes
:19:25. > :19:29.later they were knee deep. 15 minutes they were waist deep. Huge
:19:30. > :19:33.peed speed of water coming through this town. It seems that half the
:19:34. > :19:37.town was affected? Very much so. Everything from 400 people having
:19:38. > :19:40.their electricity out because of the flood, through to people who have
:19:41. > :19:44.had their houses completely We were lucky devastated. To get out,
:19:45. > :19:50.actually. We couldn't come out the front here. We had to come out the
:19:51. > :19:54.back. A massive force of water. Talk about a tsunami. It rose so quickly.
:19:55. > :19:59.By the time we walked to here down the far end of that road it was up
:20:00. > :20:04.to my waist. Were you worried? Not at the time, no. Looking back maybe?
:20:05. > :20:09.Looking back I thought, you know, I think we've been very lucky. You
:20:10. > :20:12.definitely have. Yeah. Scotland's First Minister, Nicola Sturgeon, has
:20:13. > :20:17.announced every home, business and charity that has been flooded in
:20:18. > :20:23.Aberdeenshire will be entitled to a grant of ?1,500. Here you get a real
:20:24. > :20:29.sense of just how much people have lost. This whole area is just
:20:30. > :20:33.littered with people's possessions. Although the clean-up operation is
:20:34. > :20:37.underway, people have yet to start counting the cost of this
:20:38. > :20:44.devastation. Looking at the beautiful river today it's hard to
:20:45. > :20:50.imagine it caused so much damage. Thank you Sarah. So, tonight now
:20:51. > :20:53.then, big story lines happening between Kat and Alfie. All the
:20:54. > :20:57.secrets that we have been waiting to find out about are being revealed,
:20:58. > :21:04.without giving it away, give us a flavour. I think tonight is where
:21:05. > :21:14.Alfie finally reveals to Kat about his brain tumour. You have just done
:21:15. > :21:19.it now! Remind. It's not live! Is it tonight? Listen, we know that since
:21:20. > :21:26.Charlie Slater died it has kicked off. All kicked off. Kat has been
:21:27. > :21:35.through everything within a space of a day. In real-life Charlie is fine.
:21:36. > :21:39.He's fine. He was so convincing. So good in those scenes. Brilliant. At
:21:40. > :21:46.some point I had to step out I really thought... Did you? He was so
:21:47. > :21:51.good. It was scary. Upsetting as well. It I've known him for years.
:21:52. > :21:57.He came in and then his character died. It was awful. It was horrible
:21:58. > :22:00.to film. Thank you for bringing an exclusive clip with you tonight. Let
:22:01. > :22:05.us have a look at what's going on in tonight's episode. Who do you think
:22:06. > :22:10.you are, coming round here accusing me of killing dad? Well you did,
:22:11. > :22:15.didn't you? Nan phoned me. Told me all about it. You said I killed him?
:22:16. > :22:20.Of course not. You were shouting - It weren't my fault. Come on, nan,
:22:21. > :22:27.get your stuff together. Where's the little girl's room. I'll show you.
:22:28. > :22:31.You never change do you? You never accept responsibility for your
:22:32. > :22:40.action If I throttled you I'd gladly take responsibility. He was my dad
:22:41. > :22:44.and all you know! I tell you, she is such a great actress. I love working
:22:45. > :22:48.with her. When she first came into it I was talking to her I kept
:22:49. > :22:53.thinking - who do you remind me of? I can't think who it is. Shane, who
:22:54. > :22:59.does she remind you off. I couldn't think. I thought, oh, it's me! It
:23:00. > :23:06.continues because there is a whole new drama coming out. This is really
:23:07. > :23:12.exciting. You go off the Irish Sea? We were brought back to EastEnders
:23:13. > :23:18.by the producer to tell a story about why we leave. It's kind of
:23:19. > :23:22.based around Kat finding out that she's got - she gave birth to twins.
:23:23. > :23:28.We start filming in Ireland straight after the play. We are out there for
:23:29. > :23:32.three-and-a-half four months. We are so excited. To be honest, I'd love
:23:33. > :23:37.to sit here - we know the story. Alfie has brain tumour and Kat is
:23:38. > :23:41.finding her son. We don't know where it will be filmed. Tomorrow we have
:23:42. > :23:45.a meeting and we will look at scripts. We haven't a title at the
:23:46. > :23:51.moment. It will be massive. It's never been done before. When is it
:23:52. > :23:58.on the telly? October-November. This year. End of the year. Looking
:23:59. > :24:02.forward to that. You can see Kat and Alfie ace revelations straight after
:24:03. > :24:07.us on BBC One. Their very own drama series will air at the end of the
:24:08. > :24:11.year We heard about hopefully. This new play of yours, The Perfect
:24:12. > :24:15.Murder. Gyles has been to investigate an alternative approach
:24:16. > :24:20.to catching criminals. A major art theft has taken place in North
:24:21. > :24:26.London. Last night the Dutch masterpiece The Guitar Player was
:24:27. > :24:32.stolen from here in North London. During the evening of 23rd February
:24:33. > :24:36.1974, a museum guard heard the crash of metal against metal followed by
:24:37. > :24:43.the sound of breaking glass. By the time the guard arrived at the scene,
:24:44. > :24:47.the 17th century masterpiece The Guitar Player had vanished. With few
:24:48. > :24:54.clues the police would turn to an unexpected source to help locate the
:24:55. > :24:59.painting and return it to its home at Kenwood House. This couldn't
:25:00. > :25:04.happened today because of the security system, 40 years
:25:05. > :25:08.agricultural the theft of The Guitar Player caused panic. Two ransom
:25:09. > :25:12.notes were sent. One threatened to destroy the painting. The other,
:25:13. > :25:18.demanded money. Police couldn't confirm the are littlety of either.
:25:19. > :25:22.It was the Meted of its recovery Raith rather than the theft itself
:25:23. > :25:31.that was intriguing. It marked the beginning of a 20 year relationship
:25:32. > :25:35.between the police and a psychic. The self-styled romany gypsy. Nella
:25:36. > :25:40.Jones. A news report on the theft appeared on her screen while she was
:25:41. > :25:44.ironing. The images began to give her visions of the painting's
:25:45. > :25:49.whereabouts. She gave the police a map marked with an X and with a few
:25:50. > :25:53.other leads the police decided to follow her tip-off. The map would
:25:54. > :25:59.lead them straight to the discarded frame of the painting on ham stead
:26:00. > :26:02.Heath. The police first considered her not a psychic but a suspect. She
:26:03. > :26:08.was quickly ruled out of the investigation. Nella would have one
:26:09. > :26:14.more premonition, believing the painting would be found in a
:26:15. > :26:26.graveyard. The two months later, the police located The Guitar Player in
:26:27. > :26:30.a graveyard in south London. Her involvement made newspaper
:26:31. > :26:34.headlines. I was perfectly satisfied to believe that what she told me was
:26:35. > :26:40.perfectly true and sincere on her part. Over the next 20 years Nella
:26:41. > :26:44.would come to the police with apparent information on a number of
:26:45. > :26:49.cases. None than a higher profile than the investigation into the
:26:50. > :26:54.serial killer the Yorkshire Ripper. Paul Adams, who was has written a
:26:55. > :26:57.book about police collaboration with psychics, believed she showed a
:26:58. > :27:05.knack for accuracy in the Ripper case. She came up with the killer's
:27:06. > :27:11.name began with Peter. The initials of the last victim, Jacqueline Hill
:27:12. > :27:16.and the date 17th November, the date that Jacqueline was murdered on. Of
:27:17. > :27:21.all the psychics that were involved with that she did seem to come up
:27:22. > :27:25.with credible information. This time, Nella revealed the detail of
:27:26. > :27:32.main of her predictions after the Ripper had been caught. Some details
:27:33. > :27:36.proved inaccurate. Critics said others could be lucky guesses. The
:27:37. > :27:43.arrest of cut cliff in 1981 had nothing to do with any of the
:27:44. > :27:48.psychic trails. The Metropolitan Police did her information
:27:49. > :27:52.seriously. Arnie Cook is a former senior detective officers who knew
:27:53. > :27:58.Nella. There are sceptics and people who have an open mind. I'm one much
:27:59. > :28:01.those who has an open mind. Do police today still use psychics
:28:02. > :28:07.where relevant? I know of cases where they do, but they don't
:28:08. > :28:11.broadcast it. Obviously, if the evidence is there and they can use
:28:12. > :28:15.it, they will use it, but, yes, I think it would be very poor
:28:16. > :28:21.investigator who didn't consider all the evidenced from what ever source
:28:22. > :28:37.it came from. Nella received no payment for any of the work she did
:28:38. > :28:43.with the police. Yard wrote to Nella Jones that somes officers were
:28:44. > :28:51.sceptical. I would liked to have seen Nella. Back in the room. Thank
:28:52. > :28:57.you very much to Shaned and Jessie. The Perfect Murder begins in
:28:58. > :28:59.Cheltenham on 2nd February. Tomorrow perched on our sofa will be two
:29:00. > :29:02.birds of a feather. Goodbye.