:00:20. > :00:24.Hello, welcome to The One Show with Matt Baker... And Alex Jones.
:00:24. > :00:29.Tonight's guest has had loads of hard challenges in his career.
:00:29. > :00:35.came second in Strictly Come Dancing. That is really hard.
:00:35. > :00:40.won Celebrity MasterChef. Very hard. In 2003 he helped England win the
:00:40. > :00:43.Rugby World Cup and the Six Nations Grand Slam. Extremely hard!
:00:43. > :00:52.Question of Sport he picks his intellect against Phil Tufnell.
:00:52. > :00:58.Well, everybody needs a break now and again. It's Matt Dawson!
:00:58. > :01:02.wondered where that was going. have noticed that Tuffers seems to
:01:02. > :01:06.have a better team on Question of sport than you. Is that trying to
:01:07. > :01:15.level the playing field? I don't know about that. The perception is
:01:15. > :01:22.that he plays the clown, but you know that. But he's very, very
:01:22. > :01:26.bright. Lots of strings to his bow. Now, you will recognise this. This
:01:26. > :01:30.is the Six Nations championship trophy. We will be asking who are
:01:31. > :01:40.you think, a painful question for me, who you think will lift it on
:01:40. > :01:46.March 16th. Hold on a minute, it's not over yet, is it? Far from over.
:01:46. > :01:49.Massive game in Cardiff on the 16th. Triple Crown. We will also be
:01:49. > :01:55.finding out who you think will be holding the good old wooden spoon.
:01:55. > :02:00.It comes in very handy on Pancake Day. You are going to need this
:02:00. > :02:07.later in the show. Yes, you are going to be making a pancake four
:02:07. > :02:12.hours later on. It will be edible, as well. -- for us. We changed the
:02:12. > :02:19.hob. What are we cooking on instead? It's a better one. Here is
:02:19. > :02:27.someone with some tips. Anita Rani is worth a Michelin star pancake
:02:27. > :02:34.I have been allowed into the kitchens of Le Gavroche. I am with
:02:34. > :02:38.the owner and chef, Michel Roux Jnr. We are going to be taught how to
:02:38. > :02:42.make the ultimate pancake. Thank you for letting us in, by the way.
:02:43. > :02:48.I know it is very busy. What is the difference between a pancake and a
:02:48. > :02:53.crepe? A pancake is the American style, it normally has baking
:02:53. > :03:01.powder in it. It is fluffy, big and you serve it with bacon and maple
:03:01. > :03:07.syrup. A crepe is a delicate pancake. It is thin. You can see
:03:07. > :03:11.through it. Fair enough. I would still call it a pancake. But you
:03:11. > :03:15.are the professional. While you are cooking away, let's talk about the
:03:15. > :03:19.new series of Food and Drink. I saw it last night and thoroughly
:03:19. > :03:25.enjoyed it. Why bring it back after 10 years? It was such an iconic
:03:25. > :03:28.programme. An amazing programme. I remember seeing it as a kid and it
:03:28. > :03:33.was something special. We kind of revived it. We brushed it up and
:03:33. > :03:38.gave it a fresh look. It still has those core values. What sets it
:03:38. > :03:42.apart from the other plethora of food shows? It's not a competition.
:03:42. > :03:48.It is not MasterChef. It is not me going around the country and
:03:48. > :03:52.cooking different recipes. It is about topical subjects and drink,
:03:52. > :03:57.of course, which is very important, I think. You do cover topical
:03:57. > :04:01.issues. One that you have not managed to film because it is a
:04:01. > :04:05.very topical is the horsemeat scandal. How would you have dealt
:04:05. > :04:13.with that, being a French chef? Being French, I don't have a
:04:13. > :04:17.problem with eating horse. It is not to our tastes here, but the
:04:17. > :04:22.real point of the scandal for me is labelling, it was not labelled
:04:22. > :04:26.probably. That needs improving. Let's have a taste of what is
:04:26. > :04:33.coming up next week on Food and Drink. The secret to making perfect
:04:33. > :04:40.trips is to wash the starch off first and double fried. What
:04:40. > :04:47.temperature? 160. We are just cooking them until they are soft,
:04:47. > :04:55.just to get a skin on it. We let them rest and core. Just before we
:04:55. > :05:02.need them, they go back in at 180. Crunchy and soft. I noticed that
:05:02. > :05:07.you were cooking British trips, proper chips. In your opinion, and
:05:07. > :05:13.think carefully about it, who is at the forefront of cooking, the
:05:13. > :05:17.British or the French? It's easy! We are in a French restaurant.
:05:17. > :05:22.but we are in London. The majority of the staff working for me are
:05:22. > :05:27.British. Does that answer your question? You are being very
:05:27. > :05:34.diplomatic. Shall we try the pancake? It looks incredible.
:05:34. > :05:41.Pancake or crepe? Matt Dawson has a question, while we are eating less.
:05:41. > :05:46.I am holding a wooden spoon. I know you have plenty of them, do you
:05:46. > :05:52.think he will have another one in March, with the French rugby team?
:05:52. > :05:56.I don't like that question, I really don't. Coming from you, I am
:05:56. > :06:06.surprised. He worked for me in this kitchen. U-bend something and
:06:06. > :06:07.
:06:07. > :06:10.served it to my father and my uncle. That is a slight exaggeration, it
:06:10. > :06:19.was ever so slightly scorched. It went brilliantly well, apart from
:06:19. > :06:27.one corner was slightly caramelised. One corner?! Apparently they are
:06:27. > :06:32.still talking about it. The family cannot get over it. Thank you very
:06:32. > :06:42.much. I'm going to try this. Quickly,
:06:42. > :06:47.
:06:47. > :06:52.You did deliver quite a desert? was truly amazing, working in Le
:06:52. > :06:58.Gavroche, at 7am, all of the preparation for one dish. I was
:06:58. > :07:05.only doing it for one. How these guys do it, it is off the scale. We
:07:05. > :07:11.had Albert, Michel Roux Jnr, all four of them. I just pushed a
:07:11. > :07:17.little bit of cream away, he said, that looks burnt, take it away.
:07:17. > :07:22.Shall we actually see it? haven't got it? Of course we have.
:07:22. > :07:32.I really enjoyed it. And puddings are not my thing, at all. Forget
:07:32. > :07:34.
:07:34. > :07:37.That is what you do, nowadays? Since doing that show, most of my
:07:37. > :07:44.workout side of the Rugby and Question of Sport, it has been in
:07:44. > :07:47.food. I work for a food company that originally came from France.
:07:47. > :07:53.Health and well-being, that is where I am at the moment with food.
:07:53. > :07:55.I enjoy it. Last year, the 100 anniversary of the sinking of the
:07:55. > :08:01.Titanic was commemorated with television programmes and memorial
:08:01. > :08:04.events the world over. But 40 years after the tragedy is another
:08:04. > :08:10.maritime disaster that is less well known.
:08:10. > :08:15.This is the last moving footage of the Princess Victoria. On 31st
:08:15. > :08:23.January, 1953, she set off, as usual, from Stranraer in Scotland
:08:23. > :08:33.to Northern Ireland. On board were 51 crew, 126 passengers and 110
:08:33. > :08:34.
:08:34. > :08:38.bags of mail. In 1953, the mail boat always sailed, whatever the
:08:38. > :08:46.weather. Billy McAllister was only 17. He was a galley boy in the
:08:46. > :08:54.kitchen and this was his first job at sea. We left at about 7.45. It
:08:54. > :08:58.wasn't bad. You could see what it was like outside. This was a storm
:08:58. > :09:04.on a national scale. Hurricane force winds combined with high
:09:04. > :09:09.tired to devastating effect. Across the country, 307 people lost their
:09:09. > :09:15.lives. 32,000 were made homeless. As soon as the Princess Victoria
:09:15. > :09:20.left the shelter, she was exposed to 50 foot swells and battered by
:09:20. > :09:26.gale-force wind. At 9am, just 10 minutes after leaving the loch, a
:09:26. > :09:32.huge wave forced its way through the stern doors, leaving it wide
:09:32. > :09:37.open to the storm. 200 tons of water poured into the car deck.
:09:37. > :09:44.Morse code was the main link with the land and an emergency signal
:09:44. > :09:48.was sent. In such stormy conditions, the only hope was the coastguard
:09:48. > :09:52.tracking the signal and locating the ship. Fatally, and inaccurate
:09:52. > :09:58.position was given. To make matters worse, the Princess Victoria was
:09:58. > :10:06.still on the move, pensions pushing her a further into the Irish Sea
:10:07. > :10:10.and deeper into the teeth of the Tempest. With radar in its infancy,
:10:10. > :10:16.the Princess Victoria was not tractable. Nobody knew where in the
:10:16. > :10:22.Irish Sea she was. By 12.20, she was almost on her side. There were
:10:22. > :10:26.500 tons of water in the car deck. An SOS signal was sent and the
:10:26. > :10:31.order was given for passengers to put on lifejackets and muster to
:10:31. > :10:34.the deck. They were tried to get them up, even by roads. And they
:10:34. > :10:40.would not move. They would not come up. They may be thought it was
:10:40. > :10:44.safer down there. It was not safe down there. At last, at 12.17, the
:10:44. > :10:48.coastguard got an accurate bearing on aware that Princess Victoria was.
:10:48. > :10:56.She was less than 12 miles to the north-north-east of the Copeland
:10:56. > :11:01.Islands, some 60 miles south of their forlorn search. At the
:11:01. > :11:04.lifeboat, the Sir Samuel Kelly, was launched to help the ship. Quentin
:11:04. > :11:08.Nelson's father and five other family members were romanced the
:11:08. > :11:15.rescue crew. The agency was unbelievable. They were talking
:11:15. > :11:19.about waves 50 or 60 ft-high. This boat is 40 foot long. A you start
:11:19. > :11:24.getting a funny feeling that they are not going to get out of this,
:11:24. > :11:29.you know? The Princess Victoria sent her final SOS, five miles
:11:29. > :11:39.north of the Copeland Islands and just 15 nautical miles from calmer
:11:39. > :11:44.I just started running down the side, here. If I had waited any
:11:44. > :11:49.longer, she would have taken me down with her. There was a lifeboat
:11:49. > :11:53.and they were shouting, get out of their, jump. I jumped. You've got
:11:53. > :11:59.to get them first time, you don't get a second attempt. Unfortunately,
:11:59. > :12:06.these people had a very short time. No women or children survived the
:12:07. > :12:11.disaster. Of the 170 people that sailed that day, only 44 survived.
:12:11. > :12:17.I didn't think we were going to make it, because I can't swim.
:12:17. > :12:22.news cameras were dockside as the rescue crews returned. This boat,
:12:22. > :12:26.And rescue 33, they went and did a job and did it very well.
:12:26. > :12:34.inquiry found it had been caused by the inadequacy of the stern doors.
:12:34. > :12:38.It concluded, if the Princess Victoria had been as staunch as the
:12:38. > :12:44.men that manned her, all would have been well and the disaster averted.
:12:44. > :12:52.It seems incredibly sad that the ultimate goal was to deliver the
:12:52. > :12:56.mail. Matt, let's talk rugby. mean business, don't you?
:12:56. > :13:04.exciting start to the Six Nations Championship, especially the first
:13:04. > :13:07.again. Wales lost, but a very exciting start. All right! It was
:13:07. > :13:12.probably one of the best, if not the best opening weekend in rugby.
:13:12. > :13:17.Just because of the way that all the teams played, maybe apart from
:13:17. > :13:21.France. Italy beating France, England doing well against Scotland.
:13:21. > :13:27.The way that Ireland performed, down in Cardiff, I thought that
:13:27. > :13:30.Wales were going to be able to play there, you would expect them to win
:13:30. > :13:35.there. It's a shame that the weekend just gone was slightly...
:13:36. > :13:43.That was much better! Well, it was better for all sorts. Certainly for
:13:43. > :13:47.George North. But the weather killed the Ireland and England game.
:13:47. > :13:51.But for England it showed a huge amount of character to go to
:13:52. > :13:56.Ireland and to win. On any occasion, that's a fantastic achievement. It
:13:56. > :13:59.has not been done for 10 years in the Six Nations. You were in the
:13:59. > :14:03.team the last time it was done. You actually thought that Ireland were
:14:03. > :14:08.going to beat England? Because of the way they played against Wales,
:14:08. > :14:13.and they were at home. They are very stingy in defence. They have
:14:13. > :14:17.superstar players, Brian O'Driscoll and the like. But there was a
:14:17. > :14:20.little part of me that was thinking, yes, I am quite happy for Ireland
:14:20. > :14:24.to be the favourites. That is all well and good because this England
:14:24. > :14:28.team is probably better to be the underdogs at the moment. Now,
:14:28. > :14:36.winning it, they are going to be the favourites. Brian O'Driscoll
:14:36. > :14:43.wife had just had a baby, amazing that he was on the picture. My wife
:14:43. > :14:48.would have killed me! Are you joking? Yes, well done, love, but
:14:48. > :14:54.I'm just off. Cards on the table, who will be lifting the trophy?
:14:54. > :15:01.Down in Cardiff? I have narrowed it down! I think it will go down to
:15:01. > :15:05.that game. Down in Cardiff. Whether Wales win their games and it
:15:05. > :15:09.becomes a championship decider, if they don't win and it's an England
:15:09. > :15:15.Grand Slam, Wales will not want to lose to England. That game is guide
:15:15. > :15:25.to be huge. If Wales win, can you imagine what George North's dad is
:15:25. > :15:39.
:15:39. > :15:44.going to do? This was him after he Taken off by stewards. Poor dad.
:15:44. > :15:47.Never mind the stewards, if my dad had done that, my mum would have
:15:47. > :15:52.been furious. How dare you embarrass the Dawson household.
:15:52. > :16:00.you say who you think will win? Because of that in Ireland,
:16:00. > :16:05.definitely go with England. Wooden Spoon? I've given it to Michel
:16:05. > :16:10.already. The French have had it. They deserve at least one. They are
:16:10. > :16:15.too busy anyway. Broadcaster Andy Kershaw is known for his love of
:16:15. > :16:20.music, but he jumped at the chance to go back to his rock star roots.
:16:20. > :16:23.It could be something to do with this artist's last name. Many areas
:16:23. > :16:32.of Lancashire like this one in Rochdale, my birthplace, were going
:16:32. > :16:39.through huge changes. Traditional terraces were being demolished and
:16:39. > :16:43.families were moving from old housing into new. I remember it as
:16:43. > :16:52.a fairly drab and dreary place, but one man made it his mission to
:16:52. > :16:57.bring a little colour to the area. His name was Walter Kershaw. Years
:16:57. > :17:02.before Banksy and today's artists were grabbing the headlines, he was
:17:02. > :17:09.pioneering the first British street art, by painting enormous Muirials
:17:09. > :17:16.on condemned housing in Lancashire. Now in his 70s, Walter still lives
:17:16. > :17:22.and works in the area that made his name. This territory is my early
:17:22. > :17:28.mural site. I was looking for dilapidated and ill-maintained
:17:28. > :17:32.gable ends and I thought my art will be a rebellion against the
:17:32. > :17:42.dreadfullness of contemporary architecture. That was progress
:17:42. > :17:43.
:17:43. > :17:47.then? Yeah. All that concrete was progress. Brick walls earmarked for
:17:47. > :17:57.clearance, provided a perfect canvass for Walter's vivid
:17:57. > :17:59.
:17:59. > :18:02.imagination. A Spitfire or a beach scene? Complete escapeism! Today,
:18:03. > :18:09.Walter paints on a much smaller scale, in his studio, surrounded by
:18:09. > :18:13.memories of muerlz long gone. -- murals long gone. It was really so
:18:13. > :18:18.much fun doing that and all the community doing that and joining in.
:18:18. > :18:24.I've tried to get an idea of how do you start one of these things?
:18:24. > :18:30.would measure it for a start. Then I would do a scaled-up, large
:18:30. > :18:37.sketch. I would draw on the gable end and design the flowers and take
:18:37. > :18:44.it along. Politics or sloganising or graffitti as such doesn't appeal
:18:44. > :18:48.to me. I'm about considering the scale of the building. I consider
:18:48. > :18:53.the angles and thinking in terms of renaissance and trying to evolve
:18:53. > :19:03.beautiful painting. What kind of paint were you using? I was using
:19:03. > :19:04.
:19:04. > :19:09.external paint, which had only just come out in the late 1960s. In 1982,
:19:09. > :19:13.he completed his biggest project ever. It was at Manchester's
:19:13. > :19:16.Trafford Park. They are calling it a megamural. It has taken Walter
:19:16. > :19:21.Kershaw four years to plan and complete the painting on a wall 72
:19:21. > :19:24.feet high and 63 feet wide. I think at the time it was certainly the
:19:24. > :19:29.largest mural in Europe, possibly even in the world. They certainly
:19:29. > :19:35.had the most detail. I wanted to create a great work of art, with
:19:35. > :19:39.movement and figures and machinery and adaptibility. -- adaptability.
:19:39. > :19:49.Lost to the wrecking ball and the British weather, none of the
:19:49. > :19:50.
:19:50. > :19:58.masterpieces have survived. But, today, a gable end in Rochdale is
:19:58. > :20:03.getting the Kershaw treatment once again. The One Show has arranged
:20:03. > :20:12.for students from a local college to honour Walter with a mural of
:20:12. > :20:16.his signature images. Are you excited? Yeah, very much so. Look
:20:16. > :20:21.at the Spitfire. You put all the witty details if there and the
:20:21. > :20:28.sense of humour. The cat on the window. Excellent. Well done.
:20:28. > :20:36.there any bit that needs finishing off? The vase needs finishing.
:20:36. > :20:41.it? Yeah. In a film in 1976 you said you would want to bring a
:20:41. > :20:50.little madness to the area. glad that madness is still alive
:20:50. > :20:55.and ticking here. APPLAUSE
:20:55. > :20:58.A lovely tribute to Walter. If you're in Rochdale you can see the
:20:58. > :21:04.mural on 59 Ramsay Street before the wrecking ball gets it and
:21:04. > :21:08.knocks it down in about four weeks. People will think that's the end of
:21:08. > :21:14.Neighbours. It's not Harold's house. Matt, I've been a fan of question
:21:14. > :21:19.of sport for as long as I can -- a fan of A Question of Sport, for as
:21:19. > :21:27.long as you can remember, but look at the questions. Which Olympic
:21:27. > :21:37.event is this? Gymnastics. It's the rings. Andy Roddick is renouned for
:21:37. > :21:41.
:21:41. > :21:49.this. Serve. Yes. Who is this? Jonny Wilkinson. Yes. What is this?
:21:49. > :21:56.APPLAUSE We'll be seeing that tomorrow night.
:21:56. > :22:00.Incredible. They make us do some crazy stuff. They don't tell us.
:22:00. > :22:05.Once they put us on top of a plane and made husband wing walk. That's
:22:05. > :22:09.right. Whilst we were answering questions. Imagine Phil doing that.
:22:09. > :22:17.He loved it. It's been on air 42 years and we want to see how many
:22:17. > :22:27.team captains you can name in 30 seconds. Follow the numbers. Ally
:22:27. > :22:30.
:22:30. > :22:40.McCoist. Brend and Foster. -- Brendan Foster. Cliff Morgan. Emlyn
:22:40. > :22:44.
:22:44. > :22:50.Hughes. Frankie Dettori. Fred Trueman. Gareth Edwards. Pass. Heny
:22:50. > :22:53.Cooper. Ian Botham. Bill Beaumont. Me and Phil Tufnell and, hold on,
:22:53. > :23:01.I'll get there. Willie Carson. APPLAUSE
:23:01. > :23:07.Well done. Good effort there. Brilliant. You were doing so well.
:23:07. > :23:11.Tuffers is at home going... We've seen Michel Roux does his stuff
:23:12. > :23:15.with the pancake and now we're going to send you over to the
:23:15. > :23:21.kitchen area. We have an apron and a chef's hat. You've four minutes.
:23:21. > :23:27.You better get a move on. Whilst he gets cooking here is Lucy on how
:23:27. > :23:30.lending money to strangers online might make you think about doing it.
:23:30. > :23:33.You've got a brilliant business idea or perhaps you want to expand
:23:33. > :23:39.your existing brilliant business. Either way, you need to borrow some
:23:39. > :23:47.money to make it happen. So, where do you go when you know your idea
:23:47. > :23:51.is a winner? I know a man who might be able to help. Paul started his
:23:52. > :23:56.advertising agency 20 years ago with a �2,000 loan from his
:23:56. > :24:01.business partner's mother. Borrowing money from her was the
:24:01. > :24:04.last resort. We were too wet behind the years and a bank couldn't take
:24:04. > :24:09.us seriously. From that, he's now the owner of three companies worth
:24:09. > :24:15.a cool �32 million. Of course, he paid his invest for back with
:24:15. > :24:21.interest. Paul's now lending his spare cash to individuals through a
:24:21. > :24:26.new financing called peer to peer lending. -- peer-to-peer lending.
:24:26. > :24:29.There are a whole list of companies who are looking to borrow amounts
:24:29. > :24:33.from �20,000 up to �100,000. there any on here that you think
:24:33. > :24:36.are really good ideas? There's one particular one at the moment and
:24:36. > :24:41.it's a car dealership in Leicestershire. They need to get
:24:41. > :24:45.some more second-hand cars to sell. Will you lend money? Yes. Shall we
:24:45. > :24:50.do it now? It's a business that wants to borrow �100,000. What you
:24:50. > :24:53.do is bid for the amount that you want to lend and the interest rate.
:24:53. > :24:57.This lending works by borrowing lots of little chunks of money from
:24:57. > :25:00.many different lenders and they choose their own interest rates and
:25:00. > :25:03.compete by offering slightly lower rates for the money they're
:25:03. > :25:09.offering. Once the desired loan amount is reached, it goes to the
:25:09. > :25:14.borrower, who then pays it back over time with interest. I want to
:25:14. > :25:18.lend �200 and I'll pick an interest rate of 97. Is it pretty
:25:18. > :25:24.disappointing when your bid hasn't been successful? Yeah. Paul won his
:25:24. > :25:30.bid the next day, which means he'll make �18 profit on the loan. It
:25:30. > :25:38.doesn't sound much, but the more you invest then the more interest.
:25:38. > :25:41.9% is a lot higher than the bank accounts. Old St Andrew's wanted to
:25:41. > :25:49.diversify. Today, one of its lenders is visiting for the first
:25:49. > :25:53.time. Bill, what attracted you to this business? I like the way they
:25:53. > :25:57.presented themselves. I read the company had turned around in four
:25:57. > :26:02.years and then the production was back from China. It would save
:26:02. > :26:08.money and better credit terms and quicker deliveries. Is it not
:26:08. > :26:13.strange that you haven't met? Bill 20 minutes ago. Because it's a
:26:13. > :26:21.straightforward agreement he knows I can pay and I'm happy to borrow
:26:21. > :26:26.it. How much did you invest? In the end I think �2,000. Bill has made
:26:26. > :26:33.�170. That's 8.5% gross profit on his investment with Bob. He's happy
:26:33. > :26:37.with the investment, but he's not always so lucky. Have you ever lost
:26:37. > :26:43.money? A very small amount. I think it was a 12-month investment and
:26:43. > :26:47.they didn't pay the last two. It wasn't a lot. It was under �100.
:26:47. > :26:53.It's not just businesses borrowing hard cash. Personal loans are
:26:53. > :26:57.available too. Zopa has overseen millions of pounds worth of loans
:26:57. > :27:02.over seven years. Anyone with a decent credit rating can borrow for
:27:02. > :27:06.a new car to a new kitchen, but who's lending all this money?
:27:07. > :27:12.of our lenders live in the south- east of England. They are lending
:27:12. > :27:17.on average about �5,000 to �10,000. They are in their late 40s or 50s.
:27:18. > :27:21.They're not high-network individuals or big investors in
:27:21. > :27:25.other assets. They are very normal people who are looking for better
:27:25. > :27:30.deals. What's the catch you may ask? Well, if a bank goes bust your
:27:30. > :27:33.savings are protected by the Government. What's the protection
:27:33. > :27:37.for peeve-to-peer lenders? There isn't any. It's a risk and you
:27:37. > :27:43.could lose the cash you invest. It's a young industry, but so far
:27:43. > :27:48.losses from bad debts have stayed low, at around 1% or 2%. The risk
:27:48. > :27:52.lies at an individual level between lenders and borrowers, in that when
:27:52. > :27:59.you borrow from a lender you might not repay. The way to mitigate that
:27:59. > :28:03.is to make sure we do the best job we can to credit check and we
:28:03. > :28:07.spread the risk to make sure you lend lots of small amounts to
:28:07. > :28:12.individual borrowers. The lenders will suffer some credit losses and
:28:12. > :28:16.our job is to make sure they suffer less than they're expecting.
:28:16. > :28:22.appears a quiet revolution is under way and who knows, it might be that
:28:22. > :28:28.we may not need the high street banks as much in the future. Thank
:28:28. > :28:33.you very much. How successful would you say that? -- that was?
:28:33. > :28:43.Considering the equipment and all the rest of it. Don't blame the
:28:43. > :28:43.
:28:43. > :28:46.tools. Let's look at the flip. This is what happened mid-film.
:28:46. > :28:51.APPLAUSE I've never felt so much pressure