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:00:38. > :00:42.APPLAUSE Hello. Welcome to The One Show.

:00:43. > :00:46.Thank you to Texas. A brand new single on the way from Sharleen and

:00:47. > :00:50.the band later. Very much looking forward to that. You can say what

:00:51. > :00:53.you want but you can not deny this isn't a monster of an obstacle

:00:54. > :00:58.course. Ready? Let's do this! We will stop there for now. We will

:00:59. > :01:01.save the best for later. Pleads do. It's the Biggest inflatable obstacle

:01:02. > :01:06.course in the whole of Europe. Is that right? We will be putting it to

:01:07. > :01:10.good use during the show. Done well. We are also joined by a galaxy of

:01:11. > :01:17.guests who have travelled far and wide to be with us tonight. Shall we

:01:18. > :01:26.find out who they are. Between them Olympic gold medallist Helen Glover

:01:27. > :01:31.and Steve Backshall. Tonight they're on dry land to tell us about their

:01:32. > :01:38.epic plans for the weekend. Oh my word. It's huge. Is it that close?

:01:39. > :01:41.Always good to see you mate. As for our other guests, one has travelled

:01:42. > :01:46.thousands of miles for a special Easter pilgrimage. Yes, the other

:01:47. > :01:52.has journeyed billions of light years through time and through

:01:53. > :01:57.space, it's the Doctor's brand new companion, Pearl Mackie and Fern

:01:58. > :02:04.Britton! APPLAUSE

:02:05. > :02:08.Well, Pearl, we will start, you have only just finished filming Doctor

:02:09. > :02:14.Who on Friday. Yeah, just wrapped on Friday, kind of mad. You can't give

:02:15. > :02:19.anything away. No spoilers. Can you give us the last face you pulled in

:02:20. > :02:25.the last scene that you filmed? Can I remember that? Yeah, it was

:02:26. > :02:30.something along these lines. Oh! That wasn't necessarily the last

:02:31. > :02:35.scene of the episode, though. Last scene you filmed. OK, have you got a

:02:36. > :02:41.sense already of the enormity of what you are part of now? Yeah, kind

:02:42. > :02:47.of. It's gradually hitting me, you know, sort of things will happen and

:02:48. > :02:51.I will get to come on The One Show and that's pretty mad. Yeah, so that

:02:52. > :02:59.kind of thing is very, very surreal. You know, fans and all of that kind

:03:00. > :03:03.of stuff. Already. Yeah, I think it will sort of only multiply after

:03:04. > :03:10.Saturday. Brace yourself. Fern, is this a bad time to say what you put

:03:11. > :03:16.into Room 101? Yeah, no, I don't want anyone to take this personally.

:03:17. > :03:24.I did put in Doctor Who because... Shall we look at you doing it.

:03:25. > :03:38.Sorry! I don't understand any of it. Any of it! Doctor Who I think is the

:03:39. > :03:42.most dreary thing on... Yeah, you can't unsee that now. Then

:03:43. > :03:54.you and Peter Capaldi and Matt Lucas turned up and suddenly I am really

:03:55. > :03:58.fired up about it. I am not a science fiction fan and Doctor Who

:03:59. > :04:03.has been going almost as long as I have. It hasn't ever captured me.

:04:04. > :04:08.Don't hold it against me. We have an exclusive clip later. That will

:04:09. > :04:13.capture you. It will. I am on it now. You will be telling us about

:04:14. > :04:16.your new body art, as well. I might. So much to get through in this hour.

:04:17. > :04:20.Let's get cracking. Ahead of the Government releasing a new air

:04:21. > :04:24.quality plan in 12 days' time, the focus has been on reducing the

:04:25. > :04:28.pollution risk from older diesel cars. Proposals have included

:04:29. > :04:33.everything from toxic taxes to scrappage schemes. However, some

:04:34. > :04:50.campaigners in -- in port towns say the problem

:04:51. > :04:53.isn't just on the road. Here's Lucy. That's the equivalent to around 400

:04:54. > :04:59.lorries parked with their engines running.

:05:00. > :05:01.So it's no surprise to hear last year Southampton breached

:05:02. > :05:05.international clean air standards. It's the 9th most polluted city in

:05:06. > :05:09.the UK and although that's not all down to shipping, local residents

:05:10. > :05:15.have formed a campaign group calling for something to be done. On our

:05:16. > :05:19.window sills we get dust and soot. Nobody has the right to pollute my

:05:20. > :05:24.air and my children's air for the sake of their profits. But could

:05:25. > :05:30.this be the solution? Southampton is planning on becoming the first UK

:05:31. > :05:36.port to install onshore electricity for moored ships. Alistair is the

:05:37. > :05:39.port director. My background is in the aviation industry and with an

:05:40. > :05:43.aircraft when you come to a stop you plug in power and turn the engines

:05:44. > :05:48.off. In you are in a yath the same thing happens. With a larger ship it

:05:49. > :05:51.doesn't happen. Sounds simple. In practice, install ago power supply

:05:52. > :05:55.would be a huge project. How much would it cost? That's the million

:05:56. > :06:01.dollar question. But it's multiply million pounds. So, is it worth it?

:06:02. > :06:06.Nobody has done the actual science to establish how dirty the air here

:06:07. > :06:11.in Southampton is, how much the pollution is attributable to ships

:06:12. > :06:15.and what difference an electricity supply would make. That's where

:06:16. > :06:19.Southampton University comes in. They've begun a survey of air

:06:20. > :06:24.pollution levels in the city headed by Dr Matt Locksham. We are going to

:06:25. > :06:26.take readings of dust samples to understand how the make-up of air

:06:27. > :06:29.pollution changes day-to-day depending on how many ships there

:06:30. > :06:33.are moving in the docks, what the road traffic activity is and what

:06:34. > :06:39.the weather's like, as well. Matt's results won't be known for two

:06:40. > :06:42.years. So we have asked a doctor from Queen Mary University in London

:06:43. > :06:47.to conduct a simple air quality test of our own in the terminal next to

:06:48. > :06:52.where ships dock. Over two days we will monitor levels when there is

:06:53. > :06:57.and isn't a ship in dock. This measures how much black carbon is in

:06:58. > :07:01.the air around you. Let's set it up. We will put this tube outside. The

:07:02. > :07:04.Monday store will give us a reading every 60 seconds. Hopefully we will

:07:05. > :07:09.see a difference between ships coming in and out of dock. The

:07:10. > :07:12.results of that experiment to come. Meanwhile, in response to concerns

:07:13. > :07:16.about diesel ships, some new cruise liners are running on alternative

:07:17. > :07:22.fuels. Just arrived in port is what is claimed to be one of the world's

:07:23. > :07:32.greenest liners. First of many in the carnival fleet to run in port on

:07:33. > :07:36.low emission liquid natural gas. The chairman is David Dingle. Other

:07:37. > :07:40.cruise lines are ordering ships with a cleaner fuel that's been used

:07:41. > :07:44.traditionally. What do you make of the proposal to have onshore

:07:45. > :07:50.electric? It's a good proposal. But it's all very well to produce plug

:07:51. > :07:54.in electricity in the ports, but how was that electricity produced in the

:07:55. > :07:58.first place? Was it its origin any greener than the way in which we

:07:59. > :08:04.produce electricity within our ships when they're tied up alongside?

:08:05. > :08:08.Back to the results of our test. Although this is just a snapshot and

:08:09. > :08:12.not a thorough scientific study, the impact of a ship coming into port on

:08:13. > :08:20.air quality is clear to see. First up, the reading when there is

:08:21. > :08:23.no ship. You can see it's pretty much a flat line. The levels were

:08:24. > :08:28.low from what we managed to capture. And what about when there is a

:08:29. > :08:31.cruise liner docked? You can see that the readings are generally a

:08:32. > :08:36.little higher. There is also a spike here which could be because of a

:08:37. > :08:39.passing ship. This reading essentially puts the port on a par

:08:40. > :08:45.with an average street in London, one of our most polluted cities.

:08:46. > :08:49.That's why for Alistair onshore electricity is a solution worth

:08:50. > :08:52.pursuing. I think in 50 years' time it probably won't be needed. We want

:08:53. > :08:57.to explore to see whether there is an option to do something in the

:08:58. > :09:01.sper rim which will help to support a reduction in emissions locally. We

:09:02. > :09:07.will keep an eye on that issue. The Government report is due on 24th

:09:08. > :09:12.April. Pearl, as Doctor Who's new companion, what does the Tardis run,

:09:13. > :09:18.petrol, diesel? It's space engine oil. No congestion charges. Great.

:09:19. > :09:25.No pollution either. Let's have a look at you in character. Here is a

:09:26. > :09:31.lovely photograph of you. Tell us about Bill. Bill's great.

:09:32. > :09:35.She's really, she's very real. She's like, kind of like, you know, if you

:09:36. > :09:39.or I sort of stumbled down the road and discovered a Tardis and a crazy

:09:40. > :09:48.man inside it who was offering to show you all of space and time, you

:09:49. > :09:53.know. Wide-eyed. Completely. With that she brings a kind of fresh look

:09:54. > :09:57.at the Doctor and the universe he presents. She's very inquisitive, as

:09:58. > :10:01.well, which is something that I like about her. Is that what the creators

:10:02. > :10:05.wanted or did you have input into her style or anything like that? A

:10:06. > :10:09.little bit of input into her style. The costume designer and I went

:10:10. > :10:13.shopping together and actually kind of had both had a similar idea about

:10:14. > :10:17.what we wanted for her. That was cool. Yeah, we put her together,

:10:18. > :10:20.together. Shall we look at an exclusive clip from this Saturday's

:10:21. > :10:26.episode. People are going to be very excited!

:10:27. > :10:34.Can you do that? Can I say no? Yes, then. But no really. Where are we?

:10:35. > :10:41.Basically in the middle of a war. It's a war zone. This is just your

:10:42. > :10:49.basic skirmish. It's not as bad as it sounds, I promise you. Come on, I

:10:50. > :10:55.have friends here. Old friends. APPLAUSE AND CHEERING

:10:56. > :10:59.Pearl, you are in the thick of it there. Yeah. With Doctor Who,

:11:00. > :11:05.obviously with his travelling he comes with a lot of baggage. How

:11:06. > :11:08.much of all of that were you aware of before you started with this,

:11:09. > :11:18.were you a lifelong fan? It wasn't on when I was a kid. I was part of

:11:19. > :11:22.the sort of years, I didn't, it came back when I was 16 and sort of hang

:11:23. > :11:26.out in parks and probably doing silly things. But, yeah... That lack

:11:27. > :11:31.of knowledge was it a good thing? I think so. I mean, I said to Stephen

:11:32. > :11:35.and Brian when I got the job, look, give me the back catalogue, I would

:11:36. > :11:38.love to watch it all, I would be excited. They were like, independent

:11:39. > :11:40.don't know whatever you are doing is working well and it's nice if you

:11:41. > :11:44.are experience things as Bill experiences them, as well. Yeah, I

:11:45. > :11:50.thought it was a good way to sort of go. Maybe opens it up to people who

:11:51. > :11:56.may not be science fiction nuts like our friend Fern here. We might be

:11:57. > :12:01.able to persuade her yet: It's a good way to first watch, even with

:12:02. > :12:06.no prior knowledge. I am in there. 7. 20pm, BBC One, Saturday night. I

:12:07. > :12:11.am there. You are about to be thrust into this kind of, I would imagine,

:12:12. > :12:16.slightly overwhelming limelight, very exciting. But for people who

:12:17. > :12:22.are being introduced to you via Doctor Who, where did you come from,

:12:23. > :12:29.what was your last - your background? I grew up in Brixton, I

:12:30. > :12:32.am a London girl. I went to Bristol Vic Theatre School, graduated about

:12:33. > :12:37.seven years ago, lots of theatre before that. Recently did The

:12:38. > :12:44.Curious Incident of The Dog. Finished that and had a day to move

:12:45. > :12:48.to Cardiff and start Doctor Who. Didn't Peter Capaldi see you? He

:12:49. > :12:53.did, after I had been cast. The last time we had seen each other was in

:12:54. > :13:00.this very intense recall in this hotel and then he came to see

:13:01. > :13:03.Curious Incident, I heard I got the job, celebrated and not told anyone

:13:04. > :13:09.because it's a secret. I heard that he was in the audience. And I was

:13:10. > :13:12.like... What do I do? It's terrifying, is he going to tell

:13:13. > :13:16.everyone, is he not going to say anything? Both of us were sort of

:13:17. > :13:23.like... He was like, congratulations. I was like, thank

:13:24. > :13:28.you. Ran away afterwards! It was so intense. The most intense sort of

:13:29. > :13:35.five minutes of my life. What was first day on set like for you? It

:13:36. > :13:40.was mad. Yeah, the sort of one kind of most overwhelming thing was the

:13:41. > :13:44.amount of crew. We rehearsed, we filmed the first scene of the first

:13:45. > :13:47.episode on the first day so rehearsed that and it's a chunky

:13:48. > :13:51.scene, we had a long time of Peter and I and the director. Then we did

:13:52. > :13:56.a thing called a crew show, all the crew come in and you show them and

:13:57. > :14:02.they know where to set booms and everything like that. They just kept

:14:03. > :14:06.coming. And I was sitting there, yeah, seriously! It was like, there

:14:07. > :14:10.was so many of them. I remember thinking how am I going to remember

:14:11. > :14:15.all these people's names? Did you? Yes, I do. I know all their names.

:14:16. > :14:19.Tell me about the Daleks, have they got a big ego now, they've been

:14:20. > :14:25.around a long time? Are they a bit precious to work with? They're gold

:14:26. > :14:29.these days, as well. So yeah, they're a bit flash. You can see

:14:30. > :14:38.Pearl in Doctor Who this Saturday night at 7. 20 on BBC One and Fern

:14:39. > :14:42.will be watching. LAUGHTER

:14:43. > :14:45.The world of football is littered with stories of those whose careers

:14:46. > :14:49.hit the buffers after injury. In Lee Hendry's case his fall from grace

:14:50. > :14:51.nearly cost him his life. Here, he and his wife look back at events and

:14:52. > :15:04.how they got through it. The moment of you walking out that

:15:05. > :15:09.tunnel, the roar of the crowd and people jumping out of their seats is

:15:10. > :15:14.probably the best feeling you can ever imagine. All the fans loved him

:15:15. > :15:26.because he gave 100%. He was fun, outgoing, everyone knew him. I was

:15:27. > :15:31.earning ?35,000 a week. We had nice cars, a nice house, everything we

:15:32. > :15:39.could ever imagine. At times, you thought he was untouchable. I got a

:15:40. > :15:43.few injuries that put stumbling blocks on the playing, and people

:15:44. > :15:47.started to forget who I was. What can you do with someone who is at

:15:48. > :15:52.the top of the game, earning thousands, and it is all coming down

:15:53. > :15:55.on top of an? He is the type who will just brush everything under the

:15:56. > :15:59.carpet, so when I started opening the post and realising these were

:16:00. > :16:07.red letters, things we hadn't pay, I felt physically sick. -- things we

:16:08. > :16:11.hadn't paid. Lee hit the pressure on pretty much when his mum's pals got

:16:12. > :16:15.taken off her. It wasn't just affecting him and me now, but

:16:16. > :16:18.everyone around us. Things were going and we couldn't do anything

:16:19. > :16:22.about it. It is difficult when you are booking after the kids and URL

:16:23. > :16:36.most having to look after your husband as well. It shouldn't be

:16:37. > :16:41.like that. -- you are almost having to look after your husband as well.

:16:42. > :16:47.I thought, you know what, this is where it ends. I didn't want to be

:16:48. > :16:53.here. That was me done, that was Lee Hendrie, you know, his life is

:16:54. > :17:11.finished. And it makes me well up a bit, to be fair. The darkest,

:17:12. > :17:18.darkest time of my life, ever, ... I think it was more... What I tell the

:17:19. > :17:25.children, that was my main worry at the time. My stepdaughter 's and my

:17:26. > :17:40.to make boys, even though they weren't old enough... Sorry. -- my

:17:41. > :17:46.two boys. It was having the family all-rounder bed and thinking, it

:17:47. > :17:55.didn't work, it didn't happen. -- all round the bed. It sounds

:17:56. > :18:07.selfish, but I knew deep down that it was going to happen again. It was

:18:08. > :18:11.the waking up. I can't remember anyone being there. It's care me, it

:18:12. > :18:17.did. Probably the best thing to do was to wake up with no one around

:18:18. > :18:20.him, because that made him realise we can't sit and watch him just

:18:21. > :18:29.destroy himself. I had lost everything that I had financially. I

:18:30. > :18:34.was going to end up being a sad, lonely old man, or I was going to go

:18:35. > :18:50.somewhere. I couldn't do it, couldn't do it to my family.

:18:51. > :18:56.Dutch, touch, keep him in. It has really given me a feel for being

:18:57. > :19:02.back in the game, passing on my knowledge, and I can offer that to a

:19:03. > :19:08.lot of youngsters. To be rock bottom and to really build it back up

:19:09. > :19:13.again, I burst with pride is just to say how far Lee has come. What makes

:19:14. > :19:17.me happy is seeing the kids playing outside with their dad. Now that I

:19:18. > :19:26.have got that back, it is a breath of fresh air. I love him to bits.

:19:27. > :19:29.That definitely won't change. Thank you to Lee and Emma were speaking so

:19:30. > :19:36.candidly to us. What might we are being joined by an old friend of the

:19:37. > :19:40.one show, Jonny. You made a film for us will stop you were about to take

:19:41. > :19:43.your own life and a stranger came up and talked around, and now you spend

:19:44. > :19:48.your time doing your best to help people in a similar situation to

:19:49. > :19:52.yourself. The situation we have from Lee there, it's not unique, is it?

:19:53. > :20:01.The majority of people who try to take their own lives are men. Lee is

:20:02. > :20:08.so brave, and his wife is so brave. It's true. 75% of all suicides are

:20:09. > :20:16.men. It is the biggest killer of men under 45. By having -- we have a

:20:17. > :20:22.match our culture. We say, man up. Boys get that message. And they

:20:23. > :20:32.think it is not OK to show emotion and be vulnerable. I believe it is

:20:33. > :20:35.big cars -- not because you want to die. You want every thing to stop

:20:36. > :20:43.for a minute. It annoys me when people say selfish. And it is often

:20:44. > :20:49.the only option that people can see. The only way out. But it is

:20:50. > :20:56.literally just wanting to stop a minute, not to die. Wanting the

:20:57. > :21:01.painter M. We see Emma in that video, so confused and helpless. Are

:21:02. > :21:03.there things that family members experiencing loved ones going

:21:04. > :21:09.through this pain, things that they can say or do, or that they should

:21:10. > :21:13.not say or do? The most important thing is to be empathetic,

:21:14. > :21:18.supporter, and not give up on the person. Keep reminding them of

:21:19. > :21:21.recovery. We don't hear that message enough when people are struggling

:21:22. > :21:24.with mental health issues. You can get better. There are so many people

:21:25. > :21:31.out there functioning with it. People need reminding. Don't say,

:21:32. > :21:34.pull yourself together, or I've been through it as well. You wouldn't say

:21:35. > :21:39.that to someone with something like cancer. You would be so much more

:21:40. > :21:43.supportive if it was a physical issue, but this is no different to

:21:44. > :21:48.any other part of the body. Jonny, do you still have dark times? What

:21:49. > :21:53.helps you get through that? I still do. I had a relapse two months ago

:21:54. > :21:59.and ended up back in hospital. Now, I try to think of it like my good

:22:00. > :22:03.friend who has diabetes. She has bad periods, but then she goes to

:22:04. > :22:08.hospital. She doesn't beat herself up, so why try not to, try to ask

:22:09. > :22:13.for help and not be ashamed or embarrassed. I hate it when people

:22:14. > :22:18.say it is a stigma. No, it's not. Hello. I'm not feeling very well,

:22:19. > :22:23.and it's not just a couple of weeks. The message needs to change. It is

:22:24. > :22:27.getting there. We have a long way to go. Rob me, things like therapy have

:22:28. > :22:38.helped massively. For me, I take medicine. It has been a massive help

:22:39. > :22:46.for me. You need a break from it sometimes, a bit of peace of mind.

:22:47. > :22:49.And you can do it. Proud of you. And for those people who maybe don't

:22:50. > :22:53.have a strong family around them and feel a bit alone watching this, what

:22:54. > :22:58.is the best advice you can get? There is so much support out there.

:22:59. > :23:05.If you don't want to go to your GP, there are so many amazing charities.

:23:06. > :23:12.Mind, Calm, the Samaritans. It is 24 hours a day. There is so much

:23:13. > :23:16.support, and you will be heard. And educate Duchess of Cornwall, Heads

:23:17. > :23:24.Together. Which Is Amazing. Absolutely. We have put some links

:23:25. > :23:30.on our website. Jonny, thanks for joining us. To refit. This Friday,

:23:31. > :23:34.you can see Fern travelling through the Holy Land on a special

:23:35. > :23:39.pilgrimage to places that feature in the Easter story. This is the

:23:40. > :23:43.judgment gate. Beaten almost senseless. He had lost a lot of

:23:44. > :23:53.blood, standing here. My goodness, wow! Obviously, as a Christian, I

:23:54. > :23:57.have a belief, and also I understand people who say to me, totally

:23:58. > :24:03.irrational nonsense, none of it happen. And yet, sitting here, and

:24:04. > :24:10.it may be my brain playing a trick, but in me, I can feel something. I'm

:24:11. > :24:19.not given to tears. This is a meaningful moment.

:24:20. > :24:22.Where was that? On the outside of the walls of Jerusalem. The old city

:24:23. > :24:27.is about a square kilometre and there are four square walls around

:24:28. > :24:30.it. It is one of the outside walls, you will see those steps, and

:24:31. > :24:37.everyone is walking past because they are not a religious shrine or

:24:38. > :24:42.something that has been sanctioned. The archaeologist there, he is not

:24:43. > :24:45.certain either, but it makes a kind of sense to him scientifically and

:24:46. > :24:51.archaeologically that these were the steps into the Pontius Pilate's

:24:52. > :24:56.Palace. And there would have been an archway but it has been bricked up

:24:57. > :24:59.now. But through those steps, Jesus would have walked, and having had

:25:00. > :25:03.his trial, he would have come out and stood on the steps, and the

:25:04. > :25:08.crowd are all around asking to kill him. He had already been flayed with

:25:09. > :25:24.whips, wearing his crown of thorns, he was exhausted, bleeding heavily.

:25:25. > :25:28.And you've got this feeling... I am starting to feel it now, but I was

:25:29. > :25:32.thinking, this could be where he stood, where he had the last view of

:25:33. > :25:37.freedom. The scenery, the landscape, has barely changed. It was

:25:38. > :25:40.incredible. What was the purpose, then, the whole journey, the

:25:41. > :25:47.pilgrimage? The purpose of the trip, to me, Jesus the man, who existed,

:25:48. > :25:52.is very interesting as a human being if you take out all that he was the

:25:53. > :25:57.son of God. He was a human being living a very human life with his

:25:58. > :26:01.family. And then everything became complicated for him. We don't know

:26:02. > :26:05.what happened when he started preaching. And he wasn't very

:26:06. > :26:08.well-known in Galilee, perhaps, and he arrived in Jerusalem and not many

:26:09. > :26:13.people knew that he was coming, and I thought, as a person, how does

:26:14. > :26:19.that journey feel? So we followed in his footsteps, and it got very...

:26:20. > :26:23.You got the feeling of his sense of destiny that this was going to

:26:24. > :26:28.happen, he was going to put himself through it. So, where else did it

:26:29. > :26:33.take you? All through the city of Jerusalem. The nicest place was the

:26:34. > :26:44.Garden of gas enemy, where he went after the Last Supper.

:26:45. > :26:51.-- is the garden of Gethsemane. He was praying, saying, take this awful

:26:52. > :26:57.burden away from me. And his friends all fell asleep. It was a human

:26:58. > :27:06.situation. Whether things about the Easter story that you thought you

:27:07. > :27:10.knew already that surprise you? -- were there things about the Easter

:27:11. > :27:14.story... It would have been things about the traditional monks

:27:15. > :27:18.clothing, like we would imagine, dark brown robes. Flip-flop sandals.

:27:19. > :27:27.And in the winter, he would wear socks that had the whole divided so

:27:28. > :27:31.that you could put your flip-flops on between your toes. It is that

:27:32. > :27:36.kind of stuff. I am not a theologian and I am not the Archbishop of

:27:37. > :27:40.Canterbury, clearly, but I find that whole... It is the small things

:27:41. > :27:45.about religion that boost my faith, and I don't pretend to know

:27:46. > :27:48.everything about everything. You mark your journey in quite an

:27:49. > :27:56.unusual way. Or maybe not so unusual, because you already have

:27:57. > :28:00.had tattoos in the past. I do. I think we have some footage of you

:28:01. > :28:04.going through this. Did you have this in mind when you turned up?

:28:05. > :28:12.Yeah, I knew that there was this family there who have been doing

:28:13. > :28:17.tattoos for Knights Templars and people doing pilgrimages. 600 years

:28:18. > :28:29.ago, and direct descendants are there doing it. Somebody said to me

:28:30. > :28:36.the other day, is it your carpal tunnel? No, it's a little cross

:28:37. > :28:40.which you have two show that you've done your pilgrimage. And the

:28:41. > :28:43.important thing is, when you shake hands, they can see you've done your

:28:44. > :28:53.pilgrimage, but also that you come in peace. Isn't that nice? A nice

:28:54. > :28:57.note to finish on. Fern's Holy Land Journey is on this Friday morning at

:28:58. > :29:01.9am. From any of us, the Easter weekend is a chance to catch up with

:29:02. > :29:07.family, friends and enjoy a bit of relaxation, and maybe some

:29:08. > :29:10.chocolate. Not so far Helen Glover and her husband, wildlife presenter

:29:11. > :29:11.Steve Backshall. Their weekend will be anything but relaxing. Have a

:29:12. > :29:23.look at this. Rio De seven months ago, in Rio, I

:29:24. > :29:34.defended the Olympic title that I won in 2012. I was cheered on by

:29:35. > :29:38.fiance, Steve Backshall. It was all about coming here in defending the

:29:39. > :29:42.title. They have just been unbelievable. And now, I am about to

:29:43. > :29:45.do all that winter training again, but this time with my husband,

:29:46. > :29:50.Steve. We are taking on something that will test me and maybe our

:29:51. > :29:55.relationship to the limit. I was twiddling my thumbs a bit after

:29:56. > :30:01.Riou, and I wanted a challenge, so I wrote Steve into doing the devises

:30:02. > :30:02.the West kayak race. He had done it before and I always wanted to do

:30:03. > :30:15.something really different. The race travels 125 miles.

:30:16. > :30:19.Non-stop. So the training is intense. We have only decided to do

:30:20. > :30:25.this six weeks before the race. The other two times I have done it I

:30:26. > :30:28.have had a year of training. So, six weeks isn't enough. We are now in

:30:29. > :30:31.full-time training to get our bodies and minds ready.

:30:32. > :30:36.As well as covering the miles in the kayak we are hitting the gym to

:30:37. > :30:40.build the upper body and core strength we will need.

:30:41. > :30:46.That's nice. Go on, just one more. Go on! For me, I will be learning an

:30:47. > :30:49.entirely new discipline. Kayaking is totally new to me and lots of people

:30:50. > :30:53.watch it and think it's very similar to rowing. In terms of the muscle

:30:54. > :30:58.groups and the energy systems and the way you train it's actually

:30:59. > :31:01.entirely different. But I am out of my comfort zone at the moment in a

:31:02. > :31:09.kayak. I have never been in a kayak like this before. I need to get used

:31:10. > :31:15.to it. There you go. During the race, I

:31:16. > :31:22.will be steering and setting the pace. But at the moment just keeping

:31:23. > :31:32.it stable is a problem. That was a disaster. I am not

:31:33. > :31:41.feeling very confident right now. How far did we go? About 50 metres.

:31:42. > :31:45.Just as important as our training is our diet.

:31:46. > :31:49.Over the next few weeks we will be eating plenty of slow release cash

:31:50. > :31:52.high driets and a large amount of fruit and veg which is easier to get

:31:53. > :32:00.down if it's blended. How does it taste? How it looks. Like sludge. Do

:32:01. > :32:04.you want mine, as well? No! To help us stay afloat we have opted

:32:05. > :32:08.for a more stable boat. But this will make the race harder as it is

:32:09. > :32:12.slower and heavier. Along the way there are 77 locks

:32:13. > :32:16.where we will need to get out and carry the boat, running with it on

:32:17. > :32:19.our shoulders. After two weeks of river training we are now covering

:32:20. > :32:22.distances of over 20 miles in each session.

:32:23. > :32:27.And they're starting to take their toll. My back is starting to hurt.

:32:28. > :32:30.My hands are sore. It will be worse in the morning. Your shoulders are

:32:31. > :32:34.going to hurt so bad in the morning. So far we have done our training on

:32:35. > :32:38.the River Thames but the first 52 miles of the race are on the canal.

:32:39. > :32:41.So we head to Newbury to start a session from there. This is what the

:32:42. > :32:45.majority of the race is all about. It's very, very different from the

:32:46. > :32:50.river, because there is no flow, it's flat water. Paddling on a canal

:32:51. > :32:53.is much more difficult and after three-and-a-half hours with no

:32:54. > :32:58.assistance from the flow I realise just how tough this challenge is

:32:59. > :33:02.going to be. It's a wake-up call, isn't it? I found that quite hard. I

:33:03. > :33:07.am really tired. The speed we were going today is the speed that we

:33:08. > :33:11.need to do for 125 miles. I think if someone told me now to go on for

:33:12. > :33:16.another half hour I would have got out of the boat. That was me done

:33:17. > :33:20.today. But with the race getting ever closer we need to step up a

:33:21. > :33:24.gear, which includes training at night. During the event this is when

:33:25. > :33:31.a lot of people give up. I feel like I have started from scratch, just

:33:32. > :33:34.being in the dark. It's a whole new ball game, it's disorientating. Half

:33:35. > :33:39.the race is at night. Ten hours of paddling like this. We have a lot of

:33:40. > :33:45.work to do, to be honest. We will be all right. What could possibly go

:33:46. > :33:48.wrong! And Helen and Steve are here now.

:33:49. > :33:52.Let's give them a big round of applause!

:33:53. > :33:58.APPLAUSE Are you ready? No! Come on. As we

:33:59. > :34:03.will ever be, we feel. What's the plan between now and the start of

:34:04. > :34:07.the race? Eat lots. Eat lots of pasties and pie. It's going to be

:34:08. > :34:12.great. The thing is it's 125 miles. You are going to try to do this in

:34:13. > :34:14.24 hours. You don't really get a sense there, but it is a race, you

:34:15. > :34:18.are racing against other competitors. How does that work?

:34:19. > :34:22.Well, you can actually start when you want to. You can start on that

:34:23. > :34:26.Saturday, people will be starting within a few hours of each other. So

:34:27. > :34:29.we might spend a lot of the race on our own but might be around other

:34:30. > :34:34.boats and in terms of being competitive, we are planning on just

:34:35. > :34:37.finishing. Finishing will be a massive achievement. However, my

:34:38. > :34:48.competitive instinct tends to kick in whenever there is another crew

:34:49. > :34:52.around. I am going to have to try to rerein myself in. Have you got the

:34:53. > :34:55.hang of it, being an Olympic champion you would think you would

:34:56. > :34:59.be very good in a boat like that. And she is. After two weeks of

:35:00. > :35:04.training she was where I would expect someone to be after a year or

:35:05. > :35:08.even more of training. Now she's at a remarkable level. But our longest

:35:09. > :35:11.training session has been five-and-a-half hours. That's such a

:35:12. > :35:16.tiny percentage of the race. We don't know what's going to happen at

:35:17. > :35:19.3am when we are cold and hungry and tired. I think she's going to be

:35:20. > :35:23.amazing but you never know. What is it like to be doing this as a

:35:24. > :35:26.couple? We saw you there in the gym. Brilliant training partners, the

:35:27. > :35:31.pair of you, really fit. You must have a great time. It's good fun.

:35:32. > :35:35.But I think that we are probably going to see a true side of each

:35:36. > :35:38.other in the middle of the night when you have been paddling, you are

:35:39. > :35:42.absolutely kind of on your last legs and still have hours to go. It will

:35:43. > :35:45.be interesting. Come on, you are obsessed with each other, it's

:35:46. > :35:48.lovely to see! It is lovely to see. There is a good

:35:49. > :35:52.reason why you are doing this and it's not just about bringing the

:35:53. > :35:56.pair of you together. Exactly. I have been working with a charity

:35:57. > :36:00.called The World Land Trust, and we buy up vulnerable portions of forest

:36:01. > :36:05.and protect them and what we are doing is, we are going to buy a

:36:06. > :36:13.slice of a rainforest in Borneo and if we don't buy it, it will get cut

:36:14. > :36:18.down for plantations, it's a vital patch of forest. The opportunity to

:36:19. > :36:22.buy and protect this land is just enormous. So, that's a big part of

:36:23. > :36:26.the reason we were going we need to do something massive to try and get

:36:27. > :36:29.the attention and get the cash rolling in and it has been. I think

:36:30. > :36:32.it's going to be a massive success. Obviously you need the money but

:36:33. > :36:37.when do you hope to get your hands on it then, what's the plan? It

:36:38. > :36:41.needs to be done before August. Really the main, the target of the

:36:42. > :36:45.fundraising is now, it's because the place is such a fantastic wildlife

:36:46. > :36:49.corridor. It's a perfect place for animals to disperse. By purchasing

:36:50. > :36:52.this area of land and protecting it we are really saving it for all the

:36:53. > :36:56.animals that live there. Well, before you go we are going to look

:36:57. > :37:02.at that moment where you were in tears in Rio. Let's have a look at

:37:03. > :37:07.it. To me this sums it all up. Obviously, trying to retain that

:37:08. > :37:10.title. Helen means so much to everybody and family and that

:37:11. > :37:13.sacrifice. I love the fact it was captured. Often you don't see that

:37:14. > :37:18.finish line reaction from friends and family. Like you say, they see

:37:19. > :37:23.you at your worst through the hard times and so, I love the fact... She

:37:24. > :37:27.loves the fact it was captured because she is talking about it

:37:28. > :37:32.endlessly! Aren't we all. Quickly before you go, Dave, are you there?

:37:33. > :37:36.We have some night vision goggles. Here you are. Thank you! I am sure

:37:37. > :37:45.there will be tears of joy in your eyes again, Steve. Bring it on. We

:37:46. > :37:50.wish you all the very best. We will keep everyone up to date with you

:37:51. > :37:53.how you get on. OK. From their challenge to a challenge that we

:37:54. > :38:00.have going on here outside. Feast your eyes on this. This is Europe's

:38:01. > :38:04.biggest inflatable obstacle course. It is indeed. This section is the

:38:05. > :38:08.danger zone, it has slides, a wall and hanging things. It's one section

:38:09. > :38:14.of the course that it ten pieces in total. When fully assembled it

:38:15. > :38:19.measures a whopping five kilometres from start to finish. We did ask

:38:20. > :38:23.Fern and Pearl and Sharleen to take part in this but they all said we

:38:24. > :38:26.have somebody better that can do it for us. We all know some talented

:38:27. > :38:33.people. Fern, let's start with you at the end. Who have you asked? This

:38:34. > :38:38.is Joel, he has better hair than anybody, better muscles and on

:38:39. > :38:45.Easter Monday he is doing the world coal carrying championships. He is

:38:46. > :38:55.carrying 250 kilo sacks of coal which is heavier than he is. I am

:38:56. > :39:03.thinking he is a strong contender. Pearl, who have you asked? I have

:39:04. > :39:08.Petrica Catalina taking part in the Hedley Barrel Race on Monday. I am

:39:09. > :39:12.going to be there on Monday doing the barrel race. We have agility on

:39:13. > :39:20.our side. We have speed. I think we are going to do this. Definitely

:39:21. > :39:27.will do. Sharleen, we can see. We are a team. We are actually a team.

:39:28. > :39:36.That's why we - we talked tactics. I did the obstacle course. I fell off

:39:37. > :39:40.and hurt my ankle! Did you get a chocolate egg, because that's the

:39:41. > :39:43.whole idea? I didn't. If I could ask the team captains to step to the

:39:44. > :39:50.side and at the end of the course there is a chocolate egg. It's the

:39:51. > :39:56.first one to pick up the chocolate egg who will receive this

:39:57. > :40:05.wonderful... Come on! There you are, are you ready? OK. In three, two,

:40:06. > :40:10.one, go for it! Angela's taken a stormer. Joel's

:40:11. > :40:17.gone for it. I can't keep up. Joel's through, he is up the ladder! That's

:40:18. > :40:26.how you win an Easter egg hunt. All the way down. He looks behind him,

:40:27. > :40:34.where is everyone else? Hang on a minute! Unbelievable! We were going

:40:35. > :40:44.to ask to you get the egg of your t-shirt. The thing is Joel's colour

:40:45. > :40:56.blind. Joel takes it. There you are. Joel and Fern, huge congratulations.

:40:57. > :41:04.I didn't hear that! I have the golden egg. Are you all right,

:41:05. > :41:07.Angela? It was a good race. If you fancy having a go at this giant

:41:08. > :41:12.obstacle course you can, it's on tour all around the UK. You can also

:41:13. > :41:20.sign up to do it for Children in Need which is always a great cause,

:41:21. > :41:26.by going to bbc.co.uk/Pudsey. And then there was calm. I will do this

:41:27. > :41:28.while Angela gets her breath back. Kate McIntyre has gone

:41:29. > :41:37.window-shopping, not to look at clothes, just the dummies wearing

:41:38. > :41:41.them. Mannequins, for some they're the

:41:42. > :41:45.stuff of nightmares. Think of them in Doctor Who and it's not hard to

:41:46. > :41:55.see why. But back in the real world they've been stirring things up too.

:41:56. > :42:01.The average UK dress size is a 16. But last week this line-up of

:42:02. > :42:06.superskinny mannequins opened up the debate about body image again. Roz

:42:07. > :42:11.runs a supply business and has an extensive collection from over the

:42:12. > :42:15.years. The first mannequins were people themselves. They would stand

:42:16. > :42:20.in for dress-making and then it worked on that people would make

:42:21. > :42:25.them out of papier mache and wax. When did we first see them on high

:42:26. > :42:31.streets? Around about 1920s. They came in when clothes started to be

:42:32. > :42:33.more mass produced. When did the shape of female mannequins change?

:42:34. > :42:38.They've always had different shapes to them if they're catering for a

:42:39. > :42:42.younger market, they're going to be a different shape. For ladies

:42:43. > :42:47.considered plus-size, bigger sizes, they don't really have faces any

:42:48. > :42:50.more. They've become more of a clothes horse, rather than a

:42:51. > :42:56.representation of an actual person. Why do we only see skinny

:42:57. > :43:00.mannequins? Because they're a size that is easy for samples to be made.

:43:01. > :43:05.Every now and then you do get a very, very skinny mannequin that is

:43:06. > :43:10.the proportions which are not even artistic. That's because they're

:43:11. > :43:14.cheap mannequins, they've not been made by an established manufacturer

:43:15. > :43:19.and there are copies of a copy of a copy. Most female mannequins we see

:43:20. > :43:24.in shops today are typically a size 8-10. So what will shoppers in

:43:25. > :43:28.Nottingham make of these body shapes? Not very realistic and not a

:43:29. > :43:32.good image. I have a three-year-old girl at home and I am trying to

:43:33. > :43:36.teach her to have a positive body image. I feel if they had bigger

:43:37. > :43:39.mannequins, maybe bigger people would have an idea of what the

:43:40. > :43:44.clothes would look like on them. We are all used to seeing the slim

:43:45. > :43:48.mannequins. That one seems unusual. You don't usually see a rounder

:43:49. > :43:54.figure. Unusual because it's closer to the average woman? Yeah. You

:43:55. > :43:59.never see a short person mannequins. What effect do you think the super

:44:00. > :44:02.skinny mannequin will have on young shoppers looking for clothes? Not

:44:03. > :44:05.great obviously, because this is the shape you should be to wear our

:44:06. > :44:07.clothes, they might feel they can't wear something that they feel good

:44:08. > :44:11.in. So, if some customers are getting

:44:12. > :44:15.offended it sounds as though the shops must be doing something wrong.

:44:16. > :44:19.Yeah, definitely. They're not being styled properly. The correct

:44:20. > :44:24.mannequin is not being used. It's all about displaying the clothes in

:44:25. > :44:27.the best way, showing off those sample sizes and showing people how

:44:28. > :44:37.to style clothes who really don't have an idea of how to style clothes

:44:38. > :44:43.themselves. I look at the clothes. I would buy a mannequin if I could.

:44:44. > :44:49.I have never been a big fan of mannequins. Have you? I like them.

:44:50. > :44:54.LAUGHTER . I wish I was one right there. I am

:44:55. > :45:01.still out of breath. I need to go to the gym more! Shoving, is it right

:45:02. > :45:10.that your mum was a window dresser? She was. Did you have dummies in

:45:11. > :45:15.your house? We had a few dummies are now has! We used to come in from

:45:16. > :45:19.school and my mum would be like, we are making flowers, paper flowers or

:45:20. > :45:24.pom-poms or whatever. When it comes to Christmas decorating, I am a dab

:45:25. > :45:32.hand. Nicer grow up with that creativity. It is good. My sister

:45:33. > :45:35.and I used to get dragged in. My mum still teaches us and the grandkids.

:45:36. > :45:42.My mum taught me how to crochet about a month ago. Fern, you have

:45:43. > :45:49.two young daughters, grace and Winnie - do you find that body image

:45:50. > :45:54.is an issue you have to talk about? They are very well aware of it all.

:45:55. > :45:58.They are very good. Although the weekly ladies magazines are full of

:45:59. > :46:02.that nonsense, they read them but knowing it is nonsense. And of

:46:03. > :46:06.course, they love doing all that shopping and looking at things. One

:46:07. > :46:11.is nearly 16 and one is 19, nearly 20, so they are getting on now. But

:46:12. > :46:17.they have got brains and they understand, but that doesn't mean to

:46:18. > :46:21.say... There are moments when they go, IAA lug really terrible and I am

:46:22. > :46:38.having a bad day and none of my clothes Fitbit. That awful female

:46:39. > :46:42.thing. -- none of my clothes fit me. It is about keeping it real. It is a

:46:43. > :46:46.mannequin. Some of them are six feet tall. You're looking at them, and I

:46:47. > :46:50.don't know that many people who at that height. And I think that as

:46:51. > :46:54.parents, we need to impress on them that they are gorgeous. They can do

:46:55. > :46:58.anything they want and they are gorgeous. Your daughter, does she

:46:59. > :47:07.enjoy your music? You've got this new album coming out. I think she's

:47:08. > :47:12.very proud. She came along and saw as showcase that we did last week.

:47:13. > :47:15.She was smiling. I think she likes the guest list places that I can get

:47:16. > :47:24.her, if I'm really honest! I think she's more into that. She is into

:47:25. > :47:32.Kei pop. I am a bit confused by what she says to me sometimes. That is

:47:33. > :47:35.happening just now. Jump On Board - 30 years you have been writing, so

:47:36. > :47:40.is it hard to come up with fresh themes? You know what, you meet so

:47:41. > :47:47.many interesting people, and I enjoy life. Fern has known me for a

:47:48. > :47:55.million years. Bee did you say I have been around for 1 million

:47:56. > :48:05.years? And me! -- did you say I have been around for 1 million years?

:48:06. > :48:14.People and stories, it keeps filling you. Do you keep stories on the back

:48:15. > :48:18.burner for the time when you are making an album? You never know when

:48:19. > :48:22.you will access it. Sometimes stories come to light and you are

:48:23. > :48:28.like, I forgot about that, and it comes out in a song. Sometimes, when

:48:29. > :48:34.a song comes out, one of your mates will be like, is that about me? And

:48:35. > :48:38.I am like, here we go. You wish it was about you! So you will be

:48:39. > :48:43.touring the album and you will be on stage for a very significant

:48:44. > :48:48.birthday. I am. We play Paris on my 50th. I am 50 this year. That's

:48:49. > :48:55.great. Do you think that is good planning? Yes! It would be, but we

:48:56. > :49:00.are doing three nights in Paris, and I am on the first night, which I

:49:01. > :49:07.thought was really bad planning. Maybe I could do three parties. Just

:49:08. > :49:11.keep it going. Will the tour be a family affair? Bryn Williams,

:49:12. > :49:16.recently engaged, what have you... Look at me, I will start blushing in

:49:17. > :49:22.a minute! At my age! I got engaged recently. Yeah, first time I have

:49:23. > :49:28.been engaged in first time I will be married. And he is a share. Years

:49:29. > :49:35.indeed. When we go on tour, if there are any breaks, I am sure all of our

:49:36. > :49:42.friends and family will come out for the big old birthday. Fern, you are

:49:43. > :49:49.also married to a chef, do you have any advice? They are temperamental

:49:50. > :49:52.creatures, aren't they? I think it's just... Always like what they have

:49:53. > :50:02.cooked for you, whether you like it or not. If he says, do you like it,

:50:03. > :50:07.do you like it? I do most of the cooking. It is a family thing. Foot

:50:08. > :50:17.is important in the house, so you cook together and eat together. It

:50:18. > :50:22.is a nice thing to do. What about me?

:50:23. > :50:30.I don't think you would be short of offers! So you will be on tour...

:50:31. > :50:34.We're right on the road. We are playing the Albert Hall. We're doing

:50:35. > :50:38.some festivals. I want to say the 17th of September for the Albert

:50:39. > :50:42.Hall, and we have three nights in Glasgow, playing at Kelvingrove

:50:43. > :50:55.Park. Doing the Isle of Wight Festival, we're doing Chris's cart

:50:56. > :50:59.biased -- car Fest. The album is out on the 21st of April. Before Texas

:51:00. > :51:03.perform for us, we will do some gardening. Why not? We have done

:51:04. > :51:06.everything else tonight. The speaker in the House of Commons Betty

:51:07. > :51:10.Boothroyd brought order to Parliament until she left for

:51:11. > :51:16.pastures new. Christine has been to see the garden she has no intention

:51:17. > :51:19.of bringing to order. This is an informal garden, and one

:51:20. > :51:30.that is slightly disjointed, and bearing in mind who the owner is, I

:51:31. > :51:34.am slightly surprised. Order! Betty Boothroyd certainly did not like

:51:35. > :51:38.this order in the Commons. It is 25 years since she became the first and

:51:39. > :51:44.only female speaker, a post she held for eight years. We're in the middle

:51:45. > :51:51.of Cambridgeshire, in a beautiful wild garden, but it is wild, and

:51:52. > :51:57.that surprises me. Are you a keen gardener? You have the right word

:51:58. > :52:06.when you say while. I'm a wild garden, lovely. I have a point of

:52:07. > :52:10.order... I really should address you as Lady Boothroyd, but I have got a

:52:11. > :52:16.cheeky question. May I call you Betty? Of course, most people do. I

:52:17. > :52:23.find it very odd to be called baroness. Lady is a bit much too.

:52:24. > :52:29.When I first came here about 30 years ago, I thought, what will I do

:52:30. > :52:33.with this area? I had a few beds around the house, but all of this

:52:34. > :52:37.was just grass and fields, so I thought, let's add daffodils. I

:52:38. > :52:44.really feel that there are a lot of clubs are around -- clumps around

:52:45. > :52:48.that have been here a long time. I am very good at delegating

:52:49. > :52:55.responsibility. Are you aware, there are over 85 different species? And

:52:56. > :53:00.over 29,000 different varieties? I thought you meant in my garden here.

:53:01. > :53:05.You have a lot, but not quite that many! There is one special one,

:53:06. > :53:13.isn't there are? There is, actually. It is a Madam Speaker daffodil.

:53:14. > :53:16.There you are, named after you. It is described as robust, standing up

:53:17. > :53:21.to the elements, admired by most people. If you are going to ask me

:53:22. > :53:28.where it is, your eyes are better than mine. It might have been and

:53:29. > :53:31.gone. I think it has. With or without daffodils, I doubt this

:53:32. > :53:36.rambling landscape has changed in hundreds of years, longer I suspect

:53:37. > :53:42.then the 13th century house. Betty has barbed wire right across the

:53:43. > :53:55.garden. Trespassers must be a problem. What is this about?

:53:56. > :54:04.Rabbits, deer, which will eat anything, and moles. Do you have

:54:05. > :54:09.much experience of gardening? Is not at all, because I was born in a poor

:54:10. > :54:13.family. I went and picked dandelions, put them in a vase. And

:54:14. > :54:17.my mother said, what is that? She was not chuffed at all. I have

:54:18. > :54:23.always liked flowers, always been interested in gardening but I was

:54:24. > :54:27.never brought up with it. Betty was an only child, and the family lived

:54:28. > :54:31.in a back-to-back in a Yorkshire mill town. Her parents were textile

:54:32. > :54:34.workers, but her father was unemployed for years. Yellow might I

:54:35. > :54:40.thought, there's something better than this in life. We have to make

:54:41. > :54:50.changes. -- I thought, there's something better than this in life.

:54:51. > :54:54.It was a long one, actually. The name of the candidate elected is

:54:55. > :54:59.Betty Boothroyd. It took me 13, 15 years, because I fought four

:55:00. > :55:06.elections before being selected for West Bromwich in 1973. I just felt,

:55:07. > :55:11.well, this is really something, this is my destiny, what I want to do.

:55:12. > :55:16.You have the reputation of being a bit of a bossy boots - was that

:55:17. > :55:22.there? I don't think so. I think I'm a softy! Order! The honourable

:55:23. > :55:28.gentleman will resume his seat immediately. Immediately! It do you

:55:29. > :55:35.think you had more control in the Commons than you do over your

:55:36. > :55:39.garden? That's for sure. I can control human beings but not

:55:40. > :55:46.wildlife. Some people don't like the rambling nature of a woodland

:55:47. > :55:55.garden. As Betty would say, in this world, the eyes have it.

:55:56. > :56:00.Thank you to all of our guests this evening. You can see Fern's journey

:56:01. > :56:05.on Friday morning, and Doctor Who starts on Saturday night, both on

:56:06. > :56:09.BBC One. Tomorrow, we will be joined by the stars of the new film, The

:56:10. > :56:13.Hatton Garden Job, Larry Lamb and Phil Daniels. Now from their new

:56:14. > :56:26.album, Jump On Board, this is Texas. # Try, try to figure out what it all

:56:27. > :56:39.means # As the sun sets on your suburbia

:56:40. > :56:47.and dream # If you loved her you'd hate her to

:56:48. > :56:59.be so free # And you know she's going to the

:57:00. > :57:02.city with the bright lights - maybe you'll make it all right or just

:57:03. > :57:07.stay home and cry # Why don't you tell her, tell

:57:08. > :57:17.Batgirl? # You said for ever, ever

:57:18. > :57:33.Taking over # You can never know what's real

:57:34. > :57:42.# You know she's going out tonight to this city with the bright lights

:57:43. > :57:44.# Maybe you'll go down there and make it all right or just stay home

:57:45. > :57:52.and cry # Why don't you tell her, tell how?

:57:53. > :58:03.-- tell Batgirl # You said for ever, ever

:58:04. > :58:42.#... Hello, I'm Sarah Campbell

:58:43. > :59:17.with your 90 second update. The deaths of at least seven

:59:18. > :59:20.babies at an NHS Trust Five died because their heart rates

:59:21. > :59:23.weren't properly monitored. The Health Secretary has now ordered

:59:24. > :59:26.a review of the Shrewsbury