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:00:07. > :00:14.On the nights One Show, live at the Invictus Games with Prince Harry. We

:00:15. > :00:19.visit a gigantic greenhouse. Lou macro we will give these to a chance

:00:20. > :00:26.to avenge the biggest nemesis of their Spandau Ballet career. We

:00:27. > :00:34.forgot to mention it, sorry. What? THEME MUSIC

:00:35. > :00:43.And here they are, come on. CHEERING Spandau Ballet. On the sofa. Yeah,

:00:44. > :00:49.looking very smart, both of you. What was the biggest failure of your

:00:50. > :00:57.musical career? Back in the 80s? Come on, you know what it was. Pop

:00:58. > :01:01.Quiz. Yes it was, beaten by Duran Duran on Pop Quiz, your archrivals,

:01:02. > :01:13.1984 and let's go back to the moment. CHEERING

:01:14. > :01:22.APPLAUSE Thank you very much and good night.

:01:23. > :01:31.That wink, it still hurts? , yes, it hurts watching it, there is a

:01:32. > :01:35.terrible cold moment, let's see it from the movie. Well, we can relive

:01:36. > :01:39.the moment because Mike Reid is here with us, how about that? Welcome to

:01:40. > :01:50.the show, Mike Reid. Great to have you here. Lovely. Look at this! You

:01:51. > :01:55.all right? Pop Quiz, I mean, tea-time on Saturday nights, how

:01:56. > :02:02.many viewers did you get? We got 10 million every week. 10 million every

:02:03. > :02:07.week? ! You are just warming up. It was great fun, it was. It was a

:02:08. > :02:11.different habitat, you were not being interviewed and you are not

:02:12. > :02:16.performing. It was like, this is out of your comfort zone. Was this the

:02:17. > :02:23.biggest battle you ever had, Spandau Ballet and Duran Duran? Going back

:02:24. > :02:26.to the 60s, it was like the Rolling Stones against the Beatles, the real

:02:27. > :02:30.problem was that the editors because every time they opened their

:02:31. > :02:35.mouths, the place was screamed down. It was, how do I get to do the

:02:36. > :02:39.score, it was impossible! Did you have as much fun at the words as you

:02:40. > :02:49.did on screen, you were hanging out afterwards? It depends what you were

:02:50. > :02:56.doing, I remember I was stopped on the Kings Road at three o'clock on

:02:57. > :03:00.the morning run... It was never just two bands, it was a mixture. That

:03:01. > :03:04.was the only time we did a band against a band against the band. We

:03:05. > :03:09.had people like Maurice E, people you would not normally get on. These

:03:10. > :03:16.two claimed they knew the answer is, after the fact, but they were just a

:03:17. > :03:21.stunt, the same questions tonight and we have a buzzer, but if you get

:03:22. > :03:25.the question wrong we will show this photograph as many times as we can.

:03:26. > :03:32.LAUGHTER If you get it right, you're OK. So,

:03:33. > :03:38.who is going to be Duran Duran? There is no Duran, Duran. If you

:03:39. > :03:44.have ever struggled with your tomato plants at home we may have found a

:03:45. > :03:53.solution. It turns out you need a huge sugar factory and a giant

:03:54. > :04:00.greenhouse, how do you say this... Ricky Andalcio... Went to Norfolk to

:04:01. > :04:04.get the ingredients for the perfect ketchup. We produce millions of

:04:05. > :04:07.tonnes of sugar every year using home-grown sugar beet, but making it

:04:08. > :04:13.is not a simple process, it takes a huge amount of energy with a lot of

:04:14. > :04:17.wasted heat. Normally there is no use for that excess heat and one

:04:18. > :04:19.sugar factory in Norfolk is doing things very different way, using it

:04:20. > :04:31.to grow 140 million tomatoes. DRAMATIC MUSIC slap bang next to the

:04:32. > :04:37.sugar factory this massive greenhouse covers nearly 45 acres,

:04:38. > :04:42.or about 25 football pitches. So how are you growing so many, because I

:04:43. > :04:46.have only managed to grow one in my greenhouse this year? We are able to

:04:47. > :04:51.take the heat and the carbon dioxide from the sugar factory and pump it

:04:52. > :04:56.into here. And it actually adds about doubled the yield. It's the

:04:57. > :05:02.carbon dioxide which gives you the double yield. And the heat, we need

:05:03. > :05:06.both of them. These are sweet, because of the fresheners? They are

:05:07. > :05:13.fresh, because we are in the UK we are able to get these tomatoes to

:05:14. > :05:16.the store in a day or two, whereby, if it was imported it would still be

:05:17. > :05:24.on a boat before it got onto your plate. If you put it in the fridge,

:05:25. > :05:30.it is OK. Absolute be not, you need to put it into the fruit bowl. The

:05:31. > :05:34.staff here formed as part of the workforce which includes eight and

:05:35. > :05:41.half thousand very busy bees. They pollinate 10,000 flowers every day,

:05:42. > :05:45.and they managed to keep the white fly at bay. You need a head for

:05:46. > :05:52.heights to work it because these are super sized tomato plants. Wow. This

:05:53. > :05:58.is amazing. It is a hell of a view. As we get to the top we are going to

:05:59. > :06:03.drop the plant. They are at the right height for picking the

:06:04. > :06:07.tomatoes, simple as that. Time to get back to what I know, cooking and

:06:08. > :06:10.what could be better than my special ketchup? Having tomatoes like this

:06:11. > :06:15.just picked from the vine today, I mean what could be better? You can

:06:16. > :06:21.add your own spices, I have used lots of different flavours. I am

:06:22. > :06:26.throwing in cinnamon, tomato puree, clothes, basil, and red wine

:06:27. > :06:30.vinegar. Look at that, lovely! After being pure raid and passed through

:06:31. > :06:34.the sieve, it is ready to serve, as easy as that. Your very own

:06:35. > :06:38.ketchup. I wonder if anybody fancies a burger? There you go guys, I know

:06:39. > :06:45.you're on your lunch break, you might want to try some of that.

:06:46. > :06:51.Dramatic music right guys, you're tomatoes, my recipe, what is the

:06:52. > :06:58.music. Both are fantastic. Cannot ask for more, I will get stuck in

:06:59. > :07:04.myself. STUDIO: That ketchup is off the scale. It is very sweet. Isn't

:07:05. > :07:12.it, it is like a meal in itself. And the recipe is on the website. It is

:07:13. > :07:17.lovely. I like brown sauce. We were going to ask you about this but we

:07:18. > :07:22.didn't have time. A thing-macro now we can go live to the Invictus Games

:07:23. > :07:29.where Prince Harry and his mates are about to take part in a game of

:07:30. > :07:33.Murderball. It is electric, it is like 2012, Sir Clive Woodward is one

:07:34. > :07:37.of the managers, and on the other team, you have Jonny Wilkinson, Mike

:07:38. > :07:40.Tindall is here. Prince Harry was on the show, he says he's worried about

:07:41. > :07:46.you, you will take him out and you would be rough with him. I am happy

:07:47. > :07:51.to sacrifice the sin bin to see what needs to be done, be done. This is

:07:52. > :07:57.up your street, Murderball, they must be scared about you. They

:07:58. > :08:02.always say my face fits Crimewatch, it is the right spot for me. Don't

:08:03. > :08:09.hold back, you can be aggressive as you can, don't come near me!

:08:10. > :08:13.Ex-staff so Kelly Holmes. We know how gutsy you are on the athletics

:08:14. > :08:17.track, have you ever do anything like this? Weedon, but we had a

:08:18. > :08:23.practice and it is brilliant. -- we did. Mike needs to get his horns

:08:24. > :08:28.out, no good being a gentle giant. Let's have a great time tonight. Ben

:08:29. > :08:33.Steele, you are the captain, are they any good? Yes, we are

:08:34. > :08:38.definitely going to win it, we will come out on top. Jason Robinson, I

:08:39. > :08:46.haven't got time to chat, get out and use your speed. Just get out and

:08:47. > :08:49.watch me go. A man who knows all about this sport, this was the

:08:50. > :08:53.captain from 2012, do they know what they are doing because this is

:08:54. > :08:59.rough? I would like to say yes but it is more like a no, they have had

:09:00. > :09:02.a warm up. It will be exciting to watch. They are athletes and sports

:09:03. > :09:07.people, they have a good idea of what will be going on and let's see

:09:08. > :09:11.what happens. What about the atmosphere, it is like 2012, it

:09:12. > :09:16.brings it back for you? The crowds as lively as it has ever been, to be

:09:17. > :09:19.part of London 2012, to be part of this now, it is fantastic, the

:09:20. > :09:27.Cedars board grow, it will just keep growing. The time for chatting is

:09:28. > :09:32.over, let's go over to the one and only Eddie Butler, for commentary.

:09:33. > :09:39.COMMENTATOR: Thank you. Sir Clive Woodward is the team manager of

:09:40. > :09:43.Endeavour, in the red shirts, and Jonny Wilkinson is the manager in

:09:44. > :09:50.Victor 's, in the green shirts. He kicked England to victory in the

:09:51. > :09:53.2003 World Cup, here comes Jason Robinson who played such a big part

:09:54. > :10:02.in that triumph. And we are going to have the opening goal by none other

:10:03. > :10:08.than Prince Harry. 1-0, to the green team, the aim of the game is to get

:10:09. > :10:13.the ball between the cones. Mike Tindall is on the pitch, ex-sergeant

:10:14. > :10:20.in the Army, Kelly Holmes. And the way comes the GB professional

:10:21. > :10:23.wheelchair rugby team representative, Mike Tindall

:10:24. > :10:27.overrunning. If he goes out of bounds, it is automatic, well not

:10:28. > :10:30.automatically, well he has to be careful where he comes back into

:10:31. > :10:41.play. Number five, for the green team. Dennis, from the Danish

:10:42. > :10:48.Invictus Games team. Harry Wales. Passed forward, Jim Roberts. One of

:10:49. > :11:02.the professionals. Jim Roberts on the green team... 2-0. Team Invictus

:11:03. > :11:08.lead. Contact wheelchair to wheelchair is not only allowed, it

:11:09. > :11:17.is positively encouraged. And he escape the last-ditch tackle Prince

:11:18. > :11:25.Harry. Opening score for Endeavour, 2-1, Invictus lead.

:11:26. > :11:41.. As elusive on four wheels, perhaps as he was on two legs. And away

:11:42. > :11:49.comes Dennis, Denmark took bronze in the wheelchair rugby. The grand

:11:50. > :11:52.final is to come. You know what, this is a lecture, I cannot believe

:11:53. > :12:00.Prince Harry opened the scoring, make sure you come back later. --

:12:01. > :12:06.this is electric. I would love to see you going into battle. STUDIO:

:12:07. > :12:14.We have Spandau, but that was gripping. Harry looked chuffed when

:12:15. > :12:18.he got the goal. Hats off to him, to organising it. Your documentary,

:12:19. > :12:21.Soul Boys of the Western World, documents the rise of Spandau Ballet

:12:22. > :12:25.from the beginning to the bitter end, really. You gave the job to

:12:26. > :12:29.somebody else to put together, only recently when it was finished you

:12:30. > :12:36.have seen it, so what did you make of it? It was tough viewing as a

:12:37. > :12:41.band. She really found within the archive a story about friendship.

:12:42. > :12:44.And how it can break down. About relationships really, it is like a

:12:45. > :12:48.brotherly romance. When you watch it, everybody who knows the story,

:12:49. > :12:52.we ended up in court together. Really quite bitter break-up, and it

:12:53. > :12:56.is all in there. It is voice-overs from the five of us, we did it

:12:57. > :13:02.individually without knowing what anybody else saying. You know what

:13:03. > :13:08.it reminded me of, the Ayrton Senna documentary, you did not have to be

:13:09. > :13:12.one of his fans to get into it, and Soul Boys of the Western World is a

:13:13. > :13:16.bit like that. You do not have to be a Spandau fan to understand what it

:13:17. > :13:20.is about. All of the footage was found by this directive presumably

:13:21. > :13:27.from fans who'd been filming things, different gigs, how did she find it?

:13:28. > :13:29.To be honest we found somebody to find the footage from about two

:13:30. > :13:33.years before because we thought it would be good to collate it all. And

:13:34. > :13:37.in the process we found stuff we didn't know existed, like there's a

:13:38. > :13:41.famous gig we did on HMS Belfast before we were signed in 1980.

:13:42. > :13:45.Somebody had the super eight of that and we saw it for the first time

:13:46. > :13:50.last year. There was a film of us on the New York trip, which came about.

:13:51. > :13:54.We gave it to George. And then we walked out of the door. I think that

:13:55. > :13:58.was the film we wanted, we did not want it to be a PR job, we wanted

:13:59. > :14:03.her to find a story which gave it wait. What we tried not to do was

:14:04. > :14:06.turn it into talking heads, everybody went in individually and

:14:07. > :14:10.sat in a dark room with a microphone and got everything off their chest.

:14:11. > :14:16.What was troubling them, what was right and what was wrong. Left it to

:14:17. > :14:22.her to cut together. I am the baddie at one point! That means, you have a

:14:23. > :14:27.chance for some kind of resolution. This morning, on the radio show, we

:14:28. > :14:30.had Earth wind and Fire, they have been through similar situations.

:14:31. > :14:37.Being in a band, is the closest thing to being in a marriage because

:14:38. > :14:41.in very few occasions in life do you split up... You got married, and

:14:42. > :14:47.then divorced, and then you got married again? When we first arrived

:14:48. > :14:51.back together, the camera was rolling, we set it up in the corner,

:14:52. > :14:55.we played music together and you can see us, we were nervous but as soon

:14:56. > :14:59.as we started playing music, it is the equivalent of something else you

:15:00. > :15:07.do when you're married. I'd macro I wonder what the equivalent is. -- I

:15:08. > :15:10.wonder what that equivalent is? It was, for me, when the guys were in

:15:11. > :15:14.court together and we went through the dark period it was like being a

:15:15. > :15:20.kid and having your parents go through a divorce. A good story and

:15:21. > :15:23.compelling viewing. You were close at the beginning because you are

:15:24. > :15:30.sitting in your pants listening to an early version of True.

:15:31. > :15:36.This is the moment you knew it was going to be OK for a while.

:15:37. > :15:41.Recording True within two or three playbacks everyone was singing along

:15:42. > :15:47.and we knew then that we had found a song that could change our lives for

:15:48. > :15:54.ever. The funny thing is I didn't think it was a single. I thought it

:15:55. > :15:59.was a lovely song. APPLAUSE Kids, as you can see there the 80s

:16:00. > :16:05.were brilliant for many things, but shorts, that was not one of them.

:16:06. > :16:12.We were in the Bahamas there. You weren't in the Bahamas! You were in

:16:13. > :16:21.Kensal rise! Some party. It's time for our first Pop Quiz question,

:16:22. > :16:25.ready? Yes. Over to you, Mike. If you don't get it right we will show

:16:26. > :16:29.that naked picture of you with shopping baskets with something in

:16:30. > :16:36.them hanging around your waist. In 1984, the year of your downfall,

:16:37. > :16:49.meatloaf had a hit with modern girl, who had a hit with the same title?

:16:50. > :17:02.Because she's a modern girl... I can't tell you. Bring out the naked

:17:03. > :17:11.picture! Who was it? Sheila Eastern. There is no naked picture

:17:12. > :17:14.of her. More questions and nudity from Spandau later. Their rise in

:17:15. > :17:20.the 1980s came at a time of tremendous change in British society

:17:21. > :17:27.and this year marks the anniversary when two groups struck a surprising

:17:28. > :17:32.friendship. The miners' strike, time of great upheaval, running battles

:17:33. > :17:36.with the police, arguments between politicians and extreme hardship for

:17:37. > :17:40.the communities involved. But in the middle of the hostility is an

:17:41. > :17:45.unlikely alliance was formed, one that's now inspired a feature film.

:17:46. > :17:55.We raised this money because we want to tell you that Mac help you. Moved

:17:56. > :17:59.by the plight of the striking miners the Lesbian and gay community in

:18:00. > :18:03.London started to raise money. The Sun newspaper called it an unholy

:18:04. > :18:07.alliance of Pits and Perverts, and somehow that phrase took on a life

:18:08. > :18:11.of its own. The Electric Ballroom in Camden played host to a benefit gig

:18:12. > :18:16.that raised thousands for striking miners in South Wales. The gig is

:18:17. > :18:27.being recreated for the movie premiere and Jimmy Somerville is

:18:28. > :18:30.here to perform again. How come you got involved 30 years ago and what

:18:31. > :18:38.did it mean? We felt the pain and the pressure and it was also showing

:18:39. > :18:43.we weren't just obsessed with gay politics, not disclosed group of

:18:44. > :18:49.people. We wanted to help these people. The chosen area was Dulais

:18:50. > :18:53.in South Wales and Mike Jackson who was part of lesbian and gay support

:18:54. > :18:57.the miners made the first contact. We made this decision we would adopt

:18:58. > :19:02.this probably good community in Wales and I was the secretary of the

:19:03. > :19:04.union and we wrote a letter and I remember popping this in the

:19:05. > :19:09.letterbox and I thought I would love to be a fly on the wall when this

:19:10. > :19:14.gets there because we were not stupid. Homophobia was rampant 30

:19:15. > :19:18.years ago. Sian James was married to a minor and was there when the

:19:19. > :19:23.letter arrived. Everybody burst out laughing. And we thought, why are we

:19:24. > :19:29.laughing? What's funny about it? We thought, that is great and we talked

:19:30. > :19:32.about it, and I can't say there was any rampant homophobia because there

:19:33. > :19:35.wasn't. We were more concerned when we heard we would have two provide a

:19:36. > :19:44.vegetarian option. When they can to visit? The LGSM activists were

:19:45. > :19:46.invited to Dulais to meet the miners they were supporting. We were

:19:47. > :19:52.assembled outside the miners welfare Hall and there were about 200-300

:19:53. > :19:57.people in this concert room and we opened the double swing doors and

:19:58. > :20:02.behold tenor of the conversation dropped. And then one person started

:20:03. > :20:06.clapping, and the whole room stood up and gave us an ovation. That was

:20:07. > :20:10.a moment in my life when everything changed. All we ever wanted was

:20:11. > :20:16.acceptance and we got it there and then in seconds. Celebrations ensued

:20:17. > :20:25.and Jonathan Blake showed off his moves on the Champs floor. -- dance

:20:26. > :20:32.floor. It was fantastic. They made us so welcome. It was a joy. There

:20:33. > :20:40.is the most wonderful photograph of me dancing and Sian there and it is

:20:41. > :20:44.fantastic, absolutely amazing. The culmination of this was the Pits and

:20:45. > :20:50.Perverts benefit gig which must have been huge. 1500 people came to it

:20:51. > :20:55.and we raised over ?5,500. You are re-claiming the kind of famous

:20:56. > :21:01.headline as well. One of the things gay people have always done is taken

:21:02. > :21:04.things and subverted it, inverted it, so if somebody wants to call as

:21:05. > :21:10.perverts, right, we will use it with pride. The group raised over ?20,000

:21:11. > :21:12.for the miners helping them through the strike but after a year of

:21:13. > :21:17.severe poverty the financial hardship took its toll and the

:21:18. > :21:22.miners voted to return to work. It was seen as a great defeat for the

:21:23. > :21:25.British trade union movement. But a shift in attitudes towards

:21:26. > :21:29.homosexuality had begun and the miners pledged to support gays and

:21:30. > :21:32.lesbians in their struggle. Not only did they bring their banners to the

:21:33. > :21:36.Gay pride rally in London, the miners also helped to push through

:21:37. > :21:41.gay rights policies at the 1985 Labour Party conference. When you

:21:42. > :21:46.are in a battle against an enemy so much bigger, so much drunker than

:21:47. > :21:50.you, to find out you have a friend that you never knew existed, that's

:21:51. > :21:55.the best feeling in the world. -- so much stronger than you. Lifelong

:21:56. > :22:00.friendships have worse amended that have been rekindled by this film. My

:22:01. > :22:06.friend went to see it this afternoon and said it was brilliant. It looks

:22:07. > :22:10.amazing. It was really good. You were Spandau Ballet by 1984, the

:22:11. > :22:14.year of the miners' strike. What were you before? You play different

:22:15. > :22:19.genres of music. You couldn't settle. Martin was in a band before

:22:20. > :22:23.when we were called The Gentry. Before then when we had another bass

:22:24. > :22:27.player we will call the makers, The Cut, a school band, as in the Ed

:22:28. > :22:39.Norton modern family sketch when he turns up and the girl says you're

:22:40. > :22:43.not from Spandau Ballet. I didn't know this, you knew this already,

:22:44. > :22:47.but explain to everybody at home where the name Spandau Ballet came

:22:48. > :22:53.from. We were The Gentry like Gary said and we played one Saturday

:22:54. > :22:58.morning to the click of London from The Blitz Club, and we didn't have a

:22:59. > :23:02.name at that point but Robert elms, you know the presenter, came to us

:23:03. > :23:06.and said, listen, that name will not work. He had just come back from

:23:07. > :23:11.Berlin and seen the name Spandau Ballet written on the toilet wall in

:23:12. > :23:15.Berlin. The odds are we stole it from some INEOS. I know we did

:23:16. > :23:20.because in 1986, walking down the street in Islington, this bloke came

:23:21. > :23:28.up to me shouting have stolen our name! -- we stole it from somebody

:23:29. > :23:32.else. As soon as you start a band now you have to look it up on the

:23:33. > :23:39.Internet and find out if somebody else is using it. What does it mean?

:23:40. > :23:46.I don't know. Yes you do! It is a place in Berlin. We have footage of

:23:47. > :23:48.the first time Spandau Ballet played their new sound to an invited

:23:49. > :24:02.audience. Here we go. That rehearsal room that day was

:24:03. > :24:07.probably the most important gig we have ever played. It was such a

:24:08. > :24:10.relief to see the excitement on their faces when I realised that

:24:11. > :24:16.morning we had become their band. APPLAUSE

:24:17. > :24:19.You were quite eclectic, weren't you?

:24:20. > :24:24.We had no money and we were kids living at home with our family,

:24:25. > :24:33.Martin found that beret at an army surplus store. You had things going

:24:34. > :24:37.on behind the keyboard. No! Just for that it is time for another Pop

:24:38. > :24:42.Quiz. Second question: If you don't want

:24:43. > :24:45.to see that photograph from the days before you could actually afford

:24:46. > :24:50.clothes, guys, here is a question from that year again, 1984. Which

:24:51. > :25:02.operated Malcolm McLaren pillage in 1984? Madame Butterfly. Yes, you are

:25:03. > :25:05.right. We are getting thousands of women

:25:06. > :25:13.who say they need to show the photograph. To be honest, the quiz

:25:14. > :25:18.is irrelevant, to be honest. All right, let's get an update on how

:25:19. > :25:23.Prince Harry and his team got on in the wheelchair rugby. What have been

:25:24. > :25:27.the highlights so far, Iwan? So many highlights, you are missing loads.

:25:28. > :25:32.Harry scored first and then when you went, this was fantastic, Dame Kelly

:25:33. > :25:36.Holmes Trust, no one being nice to her, being absolutely smashed, she

:25:37. > :25:41.was going to score and no prisoners, everyone being rough with her.

:25:42. > :25:45.Fantastic. This was fantastic as well, Zara Phillips getting really

:25:46. > :25:50.stuck in. Nice change of pace from her and she set up a goal. It was a

:25:51. > :25:53.brilliant pass and it has been such a tight game. The highlight you just

:25:54. > :25:59.missed and the whole crowd was booing was right here. Prince Harry,

:26:00. > :26:05.Mr Prince Harry himself, yes, what did I do, referee? You know what you

:26:06. > :26:09.did, he got sent off to the sin binned, he was having a smile and

:26:10. > :26:13.the crowd absolutely loved it. He was sent off and he is still in the

:26:14. > :26:16.sin bin, fantastic. You have loved it and have been with me for the

:26:17. > :26:22.whole game. Who has been the really good player out there? To be honest

:26:23. > :26:26.with you it was Prince Harry. He has been end-to-end, his passes have

:26:27. > :26:29.been on point, he has been communicating with his team-mates

:26:30. > :26:35.and it's been amazing to watch. Make sure after The One Show you flick

:26:36. > :26:41.over to BBC Two to see all of the action here. It has been brilliant.

:26:42. > :26:47.Thank you, Iwan. You have this new movie out in a couple of weeks, the

:26:48. > :26:56.rise, fall, fall again this and other ally. How important was your

:26:57. > :27:00.loyalty -- fall again. It was like being stuck in the middle of your

:27:01. > :27:05.parents being divorced and you were torn. Obviously my loyalty was to

:27:06. > :27:10.Gary as my brother, but to them as my friends. I think what hurt me the

:27:11. > :27:14.most when I looked back and saw the film for the first time was how

:27:15. > :27:17.little attention I gave the others during that period. Because

:27:18. > :27:22.obviously it was tearing them apart the same as it was tearing Gary

:27:23. > :27:26.apart. But when I watched the film I'm pretty disappointed in myself as

:27:27. > :27:31.a young man. We have to say Martin was going through bad health

:27:32. > :27:35.problems at the time. But also, you were young, you learn, you spend

:27:36. > :27:39.your whole life trying to be good on the drums or the guitars, you teach

:27:40. > :27:43.yourself that but nobody teaches you to be ready for success. Looking

:27:44. > :27:47.back on the film it feels like other people. We were kids at first and in

:27:48. > :27:52.the beginning in the 60s and 70s we are still playing on bomb sites. He

:27:53. > :27:59.didn't really feel like it was me. Maybe I had become some INEOS. In

:28:00. > :28:05.tonight's Pop Quiz it is 1-0 to you. In the sibling rivalry, this

:28:06. > :28:12.question is for you. -- someone else.

:28:13. > :28:20.And you know, we are going to show the picture anyway so it is

:28:21. > :28:23.irrelevant, as it was in 1984. A television hippie in 1984 had a hole

:28:24. > :28:30.in his shoe. Who had the original hit? I know that you know this. I

:28:31. > :28:40.thought you knew this. I don't know! You know the song. Bernard... That

:28:41. > :28:49.is a hole in the ground, the hole in my head! It was Traffic. How did I

:28:50. > :28:54.not know that. Traffic was the original and Neal from the Young

:28:55. > :29:00.ones with the cover. I could have got another one. Thank you, Mike

:29:01. > :29:07.Reid. APPLAUSE Bring Pop Quiz back. Thanks to you

:29:08. > :29:11.boys. Soul Boys of the Western World is in similar is on September 30.

:29:12. > :29:13.The final of Tumble is on tomorrow at 6pm on BBC1. Watch that if you

:29:14. > :29:17.can.