:00:18. > :00:26.Hello and welcome to the One Show with Matt Baker. And as Alex is a
:00:27. > :00:30.way for a couple of days, please welcome Michelle Ackerley! Her first
:00:31. > :00:39.time on the One Show. It is happening and we are alive. Thank
:00:40. > :00:41.you very much, guys! I feel at home. Tonight's guest is British
:00:42. > :00:45.entertainer royalty and chooses these days I would much prefer
:00:46. > :00:56.staying on her West Sussex country farm bank building 28 ShowBiz party
:00:57. > :01:01.-- she would much rather stay on her West Sussex farm bank go to a
:01:02. > :01:10.showbiz party. A woman after my own heart! It is Julie Walters! What do
:01:11. > :01:16.you know about my rural farm. What jobs have you been doing? On the
:01:17. > :01:22.farm? I have been selling my television show National Treasure,
:01:23. > :01:28.Channel 49 o'clock next Tuesday. Soap farming is not for you? I love
:01:29. > :01:33.living there. It is quiet and peaceful. I love the wildlife. I
:01:34. > :01:42.love everything about it but I don't do any of it. What you have on the
:01:43. > :01:52.farm? We have Sussex cattle, about 40. How many sheep have we got? 200
:01:53. > :01:58.or 300. It is a lot of sheep! It is. 700 chickens and several pigs. And I
:01:59. > :02:03.am not talking about the family, stop it! I am forever drafting
:02:04. > :02:12.guests for Countryfile so you should come in. Have a chat. I could trot
:02:13. > :02:20.out and feed an orphaned lamb or something. Collect an egg or two! We
:02:21. > :02:26.will move on from that. Tomorrow would be Roald Dahl's 100 birthday
:02:27. > :02:30.so schools across the land are celebrating. So few are desperately
:02:31. > :02:34.using your imagination to make a costume, you might be wrestling with
:02:35. > :02:44.a Oompa-Loompa or trying to sell your six-year-old into a giant
:02:45. > :02:47.Peach, put down your costume and send us a photo whether it is good
:02:48. > :02:51.or bad. And we will also have our very own Dahl treat. We will have a
:02:52. > :03:01.hit performance from the musical Matilda later Ron. Before that,
:03:02. > :03:04.Justice Secretary Liz Truss has refused to confirm whether the
:03:05. > :03:09.government will go ahead with the prison reforms announced in the
:03:10. > :03:16.Queen's Speech last year. Well, former prisoner turned reporter
:03:17. > :03:22.Raphael Rowe has been behind bars to find out how one prison is starting
:03:23. > :03:26.its own education revolution. This prison is where I spent three
:03:27. > :03:32.months as a young man. It is currently home to 1100 prisoners.
:03:33. > :03:39.And 35 of them are being offered an opportunity that was unheard of when
:03:40. > :03:47.I was here. A lot of people break in prisons unless they have something
:03:48. > :03:52.to hold onto. I could be in a cell watching TV. Here there is an
:03:53. > :03:56.ambition to change how education is taught in prison. They hope by
:03:57. > :04:01.inspiring prisoners to learn in a more positive environment it will
:04:02. > :04:06.empower them and stop them reoffending. With almost half of all
:04:07. > :04:10.prisoners in England and Wales reoffending within a year of getting
:04:11. > :04:15.out, there is clearly room for improvement when it comes to
:04:16. > :04:21.rehabilitating offenders. So here, they are redeveloping the present's
:04:22. > :04:24.a wing to reincorporate a prison education activity. Addie is one
:04:25. > :04:33.person determined to make the most of the new prison facilities. Once I
:04:34. > :04:38.am out for myself, and I can make my way down to the study area. You live
:04:39. > :04:46.on the same wing that you study on? That is the best part for me. You
:04:47. > :04:50.spend more time studying. Addie was jailed for drug importation
:04:51. > :05:01.offences. Now he is studying for accountancy. This is the education
:05:02. > :05:06.area. The onus is on you? This programme is the first of its kind
:05:07. > :05:11.in the UK. Prisoners can choose to take GCSE is right up to Masters.
:05:12. > :05:14.The environment they have set up here is very different from anything
:05:15. > :05:18.I experienced when I was in prison. They did not have the resources to
:05:19. > :05:24.educate yourself. But the most impressive thing is it is run by
:05:25. > :05:28.prisoners for prisoners and that is very different. Three prisoners are
:05:29. > :05:34.in charge of running the academy and are on hand to provide support for
:05:35. > :05:38.their fellow inmates. Anton is the lead coordinator. The prison
:05:39. > :05:47.authorities have asked us not to show his face. Prisoners learn from
:05:48. > :05:50.prisoners much more. Is that key? 100%. As soon as you tell people
:05:51. > :05:55.they should do something, 100%, their guard goes up. It takes them
:05:56. > :06:02.back to being in a classroom when they were told they had to do this
:06:03. > :06:07.and had to do that. Today, Anton is running at study session. It is
:06:08. > :06:11.really an usual to see a group of prisoners studying together without
:06:12. > :06:15.a member of staff. There is no one supervising what they are doing. It
:06:16. > :06:21.gives them huge responsibility. Another student is more long. He is
:06:22. > :06:26.studying business management. It was as a prize that I was so interested.
:06:27. > :06:31.It gave me some things hold onto and something to better myself. What are
:06:32. > :06:44.you studying? It is business management. That course spoke to me
:06:45. > :06:46.because I was in for drugs. What do you mean? How people drug deal
:06:47. > :06:48.carries similar characteristics, marketing, distribution, sales
:06:49. > :06:54.pitch, it you can use that model to do something legit with. What about
:06:55. > :07:01.the future? I am not worried about the future because I am not going
:07:02. > :07:04.back. Traditional prison education is generally available for two
:07:05. > :07:09.sessions a week with no access to learning facilities outside that
:07:10. > :07:15.time. Here, the Academy is always open. The man behind this
:07:16. > :07:22.alternative approach is Swale side's head of learning Malcolm Whitelaw.
:07:23. > :07:27.Would you like to see this method replicated in other prisons?
:07:28. > :07:32.Absolutely. Once someone has decided they are going to change, you need
:07:33. > :07:36.to nurture that. Malcolm hopes to open the Academy to prison staff as
:07:37. > :07:41.well which would see them study side-by-side with the prisoners. It
:07:42. > :07:44.remains to be seen whether the wing Academy will ever become the norm in
:07:45. > :07:50.our prisons in the long term, but the students I met here say it is
:07:51. > :07:58.life changing. The reason for reoffending sometimes is that there
:07:59. > :08:02.is just nothing out there. Now life can change for me because of my
:08:03. > :08:05.qualification. It is about people turning their life around and doing
:08:06. > :08:09.something to better themselves when they go out into the community. If
:08:10. > :08:13.that is not a success story, I don't know what is.
:08:14. > :08:19.It looks like it is working. Prisoners doing it for themselves.
:08:20. > :08:24.Julie, you alluded to it early on, you have this new drama on Channel
:08:25. > :08:26.4, National Treasure. Robbie Coltrane plays a celebrity accused
:08:27. > :08:41.of historic sex offences. You play his wife who sticks by him. We
:08:42. > :08:44.will have a look in a moment. The pair of you are talking about the
:08:45. > :08:47.investigation. It is not going to be cheap. We spend whatever it takes to
:08:48. > :08:51.get you off, don't we? Doobie? I know I have not treated you well at
:08:52. > :09:04.times. But you must know I didn't do this. I believe you.
:09:05. > :09:11.This is a hard-hitting drama. We have seen with recent scandals that
:09:12. > :09:17.image of a wife sticking by her man. What struck you with this character?
:09:18. > :09:22.I was just fascinated. When you see those cases, you are immediately
:09:23. > :09:27.fascinated by them, the partner and what is going on, what is going on
:09:28. > :09:34.between them, what is going on in her head and it was just very well
:09:35. > :09:38.written as well by Jack Thorne. And it is very complicated. All the
:09:39. > :09:46.characters are very multilayered and complicated. She is a catholic, and
:09:47. > :09:53.she is a good person, and she is strong and she forgives him, when
:09:54. > :09:57.the show starts, we find out that he has been unfaithful to her
:09:58. > :10:05.throughout their marriage, but she gets over this by thinking of it as
:10:06. > :10:10.a weakness. He is just week, a weak man. And she allows it and as long
:10:11. > :10:16.as he is honest with her and does not try and do anything behind her
:10:17. > :10:22.back and everything. So really the whole four episodes are as much
:10:23. > :10:27.about faith and doubt and family. It is family drama that is played out
:10:28. > :10:30.in front of the public. That is the thing which is incredibly intriguing
:10:31. > :10:35.about these cases we have seen in the past, as Michelle was saying,
:10:36. > :10:39.that image of wife and husband going through that. It highlights that
:10:40. > :10:44.emotional struggle and how it impacts on the family dynamic?
:10:45. > :10:51.Guess, the first episode, she is in shock. The door opens, a jolly day,
:10:52. > :11:03.everyone is happy and a policeman is there to arrest him. But it is about
:11:04. > :11:07.that struggle. Did he, didn't he? Infidelity is one thing but this is
:11:08. > :11:12.something entirely different. And you are starring in this with Robbie
:11:13. > :11:17.Coltrane. Did you have much fun onset? We had to expect there are
:11:18. > :11:24.not many laughs in the show. You kind of worked alongside him in
:11:25. > :11:30.Harry Potter playing Molly. Over the ten years there were probably two
:11:31. > :11:35.scenes where for a split second we were in together. Usually it was the
:11:36. > :11:43.massive had agreed, not Robbie. So I felt like I knew him when we met for
:11:44. > :11:48.rehearsals. We had the luxury of rehearsals for this. On the
:11:49. > :11:55.first-day I said, hello! It made me want to do it knowing they had got
:11:56. > :12:00.him. We heard that Robbie Coltrane got some of the younger actors to
:12:01. > :12:06.sit down and watch you in Acorn Antiques. I just love that image.
:12:07. > :12:13.Sit down, watch this! I paid him quite a lot! Well, you can give us
:12:14. > :12:18.some cash now because we will play a clip to the viewers.
:12:19. > :12:23.The fact is, my life seems completely great, bleak and
:12:24. > :12:28.pointless. Well, sometimes, that is God 's way of getting you to enjoy
:12:29. > :12:36.gardeners world. APPLAUSE
:12:37. > :12:40.How much fun did you have that day on the set?
:12:41. > :12:44.We had huge fun. We were always in trouble for laughing. It was not
:12:45. > :12:48.alive audience for that part of the show so sometimes it would take
:12:49. > :12:51.forever to get through stuff, laughing and shaking and the
:12:52. > :12:56.director would come down and tell us. It was really good fun. It is
:12:57. > :13:01.interesting when you look at your career there and the serious stuff
:13:02. > :13:06.you do but you must enjoy that mix? Yes, I have been really fortunate to
:13:07. > :13:13.work with great people, for a start and do great comedy which is fun. I
:13:14. > :13:17.am really lucky. A fantastic career. National Treasure begins next
:13:18. > :13:21.Tuesday at nine o'clock on Channel 4.
:13:22. > :13:26.Now, our Paralympians have been doing a superb job in Rio. So far,
:13:27. > :13:33.58 medals have been awarded... CHEERING
:13:34. > :13:39.That puts Britain are on target to do better than London 2012. It is
:13:40. > :13:42.not only testament to the hard work of the athletes but also the
:13:43. > :13:46.precision engineering which helps many of them recognise their podium
:13:47. > :13:51.potential. On Saturday, Andy Lewis took home
:13:52. > :13:55.Great Britain's 30th gold medal of the Paralympics, as he put in an
:13:56. > :13:59.incredible performance to win the para triathlon in the event's debut
:14:00. > :14:05.at the games. While the discipline is new, this is not the first time
:14:06. > :14:11.that athletes have competed with these carbon fibre replacement legs,
:14:12. > :14:17.commonly known as blades. Despite losing his leg in a motorbike or --
:14:18. > :14:25.motorbike accident at 16, Andy has never let his ambition get in the
:14:26. > :14:33.way. Did it strange when you first put it on. It is very springy, like
:14:34. > :14:38.wearing a pair of moon boots. Running blades were invented in the
:14:39. > :14:44.1970s. Their unique design enables them to act like the missing calf
:14:45. > :14:50.muscle, bending when weight and pressure is applied. The socket is
:14:51. > :14:55.made of carbon fibre. On the back there is a valve which releases the
:14:56. > :15:00.air. This is the hydraulic knee cylinder unit. You can also get ones
:15:01. > :15:05.which come with spikes. I requested have this Union Jack draped over it.
:15:06. > :15:10.I have seen kids with football ogres, Spiderman and Batman --
:15:11. > :15:19.football logos. It cost ?15,000. They are made by a German
:15:20. > :15:23.prosthetics company but the process of getting one fitted starts in a UK
:15:24. > :15:30.consultation centre. Hi, nice to meet you, I'm Keira...
:15:31. > :15:34.I'm a middle aged house wife, I lost my leg 15 years ago, I want my
:15:35. > :15:41.children to see it not as a negative thing. These are manufacturered with
:15:42. > :15:47.the thickness. I used to love running. I want to keep fit so I
:15:48. > :15:53.would love to be able to do a 5k. People who do 100 metres, they want
:15:54. > :15:58.fast acceleration, so they want to put energy in quickly and they want
:15:59. > :16:02.it to flip back quickly. If you are jogging, you are not using the same
:16:03. > :16:06.mechanics and you want a nice, comfortable run, so it's giving you
:16:07. > :16:10.energy but not so it's firing you forward all the time. We'll get you
:16:11. > :16:15.weight and measurements of your leg, things like that. Once a client is
:16:16. > :16:19.measured, their orders are sent here, a quaint German town that has
:16:20. > :16:25.been home to prosthetic technology for nearly a hundred years. In 1919,
:16:26. > :16:29.a man named Otto started engineering artificial limbs for the large
:16:30. > :16:35.number of injured veterans from World War I. Today, thousands of
:16:36. > :16:39.amputees have arms, legs, feet, hands, knees, and running feet made
:16:40. > :16:44.here. Keira's will take eight hours to produce and it begins with this
:16:45. > :16:49.roll of carbon fibre. The customer's measurements are used to cut the
:16:50. > :16:59.precise number of fibres needed to produce the required number of
:17:00. > :17:06.thickness. The mould is wrapped for the kiln which heats it to over 150
:17:07. > :17:13.degrees for four hours. The heat and pressure, setting the carbon fibre
:17:14. > :17:17.layers into one strong unit. A machine drills holes into the
:17:18. > :17:23.spring, allowing the blade to be fitted to the knee. Finally, a
:17:24. > :17:28.pressure test is conducted where a force of 2,000 Newton metres is
:17:29. > :17:35.applied to the blade. It's now ready for delivery. Back in
:17:36. > :17:39.the UK, Keira has been trialing her blade for two weeks. What I'm
:17:40. > :17:43.looking for is whether your weight is falling in the right place on
:17:44. > :17:47.your foot, because that will give you the response you are looking
:17:48. > :17:49.for. More weight on your left than your right, but you are looking in a
:17:50. > :17:55.good spot at the moment. Lovely. Good. I'm not aspiring to be
:17:56. > :18:00.anything amazing, I just want to live a full, active life and enjoy
:18:01. > :18:05.myself to the best that I can. Ideally, I would like to inspire
:18:06. > :18:08.other normal people like me to try things. You might not be able to do
:18:09. > :18:14.exactly what you did before and might have to do it slightly
:18:15. > :18:19.differently, but these thingses are possible. That was three months ago
:18:20. > :18:22.and Keira is here to give us an update. We saw you trying the blade.
:18:23. > :18:27.Tell us about the challenges you faced getting used to it?
:18:28. > :18:32.It's very different from the other leg, it's very springy, also
:18:33. > :18:35.slightly longer so it readdresses the balance, because when you are
:18:36. > :18:38.running, you are putting two-and-a-half times the force
:18:39. > :18:42.through the leg so it's designed to compress so that when you're
:18:43. > :18:46.running, it feels even, but when you try to walk on it, it's quite
:18:47. > :18:52.difficult. How far can you go now? I can do about a mile. Can you? ! I
:18:53. > :18:57.can. But it took a while. The first time I ran, I ran for about five or
:18:58. > :19:01.six seconds and was actually exhausted. You've got your own
:19:02. > :19:06.protection package, you were given that when you were first trying out
:19:07. > :19:11.the leg. Tell us more about that? When I went for the first fitting,
:19:12. > :19:18.they gave me a pack with wrist guards, elbow pads, knee pads. I
:19:19. > :19:23.thought, really? But actually you are very unstable and if the knee
:19:24. > :19:28.gives a, you full forward. If you step backwards, you also fall over.
:19:29. > :19:32.In terms of protecting yourself, your wrists and things, it's
:19:33. > :19:36.important. So what is the plan from here now Keira? I had this idea in
:19:37. > :19:39.my mind that I wanted to run a marathon, particularly the London
:19:40. > :19:43.Marathon. But I didn't really realise how hard it was going to be.
:19:44. > :19:48.It's not just about the physical energy, but any deviations you have
:19:49. > :19:52.in your gait when you are walking is magnified when running so you have
:19:53. > :19:57.to spend a lot of time trying to compensate that. Because you put so
:19:58. > :20:00.much pressure through and you are using energy, you sweat so you have
:20:01. > :20:04.to take the leg off and clean the sweat away. Because your weight
:20:05. > :20:07.burns through soft tissue it can swell so then you can't get the leg
:20:08. > :20:12.back on. For the first month, it was a mixture of, do I take the leg off,
:20:13. > :20:16.keep it on or deal with the sweat and see what happens, and you kind
:20:17. > :20:20.of get pains in different areas, so you might get blisters, then work
:20:21. > :20:25.out how to deal with those, then you might get rubbing because my socket
:20:26. > :20:29.comes all the way up to my bone at the bottom, so it's small measures
:20:30. > :20:34.and making small adaptations all the way until you can get where you want
:20:35. > :20:38.to go. It's a real process. It's interesting because Julie you have
:20:39. > :20:43.been involved in the Channel 4 Paralympics classification guide
:20:44. > :20:51.haven't you? I am. I'm Lexi Babe. What have you learnt? All these
:20:52. > :20:53.masses of categories, having them explained is important because half
:20:54. > :20:57.the time you are sitting there thinking, why is this person here
:20:58. > :21:05.and what is their disability so it explains all that. I was in the
:21:06. > :21:11.studio quite a long time and T4 is for athletes. In the end it all
:21:12. > :21:17.became that I didn't know what I was saying, but it's fantastic, yes.
:21:18. > :21:21.Keira, we know you have brought your children along tonight. You have
:21:22. > :21:31.picked a great day to come to The One Show studio, because in a moment
:21:32. > :21:36.Matilda, the cast of Matilda, will be performing for us. We have a
:21:37. > :21:40.picture of you Julie, around their age, age ten. Was this your acting
:21:41. > :21:46.debut. Tell us about this, what was happening here? Where did you get
:21:47. > :21:53.that photo? ! Found nit the bush outside your... Yeah, yeah! It was a
:21:54. > :21:59.mid summer night's dream at Holly Lodge Gram more School for girls
:22:00. > :22:03.1961, something like that, I was 11. It was the only play they did, they
:22:04. > :22:08.wouldn't have me after that. I played Moth. Good role. Strong role
:22:09. > :22:14.they told me, yes. I had three lines! Julie Walters as Moth!
:22:15. > :22:19.Good news everybody, this Friday, yet another new iPhone is being
:22:20. > :22:23.released. Hurray. Thank goodness for that. Of course, there's bound to be
:22:24. > :22:30.huge queues of people outside stores anxious to get one first. And we
:22:31. > :22:34.know this because it was the same in 2015, 2014, 2013, you are getting
:22:35. > :22:40.the picture and so on and so on. I'm sure we all know somebody who knows
:22:41. > :22:43.all about that. For Tommy Sandhu, enough is enough, if your head is
:22:44. > :22:49.spinning around for the upgrades like his, this is for you.
:22:50. > :22:53.Do I look annoyed? ! I am. These people have only gone and announced
:22:54. > :22:58.a new brand-new phone and me being me, I feel like I've got to have it
:22:59. > :23:03.but why, what's wrong with this one? I've had it a couple of years, it
:23:04. > :23:05.does what I want it to do, but now I can't wait to get the new one. Who
:23:06. > :23:20.is in control of me? Me? Or them? It's the megaturbo nutter super
:23:21. > :23:27.pixel double camera splash resistant iPhone 7! I for one just can't help
:23:28. > :23:31.myself. But the top-of-the-range 250
:23:32. > :23:38.gigabyte model will set you back a whopping ?919. Last year, two thirds
:23:39. > :23:41.of UK adults bought a smartphone and ownership in the 55-64-year-old age
:23:42. > :23:48.group's more than doubled since 2012. Do we really need any more?
:23:49. > :23:52.When did it suddenly get to, you need more, you must have a phone
:23:53. > :23:56.that does more things? The game changer is this device, the iPhone,
:23:57. > :24:01.the first one, it changed the mobile landscape for ever. Why is the
:24:02. > :24:04.iPhone 7 going to hand out? I call it the Hotel California of
:24:05. > :24:08.smartphones, once you are in, it's hard to leave. If your mates have an
:24:09. > :24:12.iPhone, they'll get the next and the next. Apple have this uncanny
:24:13. > :24:16.ability to bring in new features sothe new one is waterproof, dust
:24:17. > :24:23.proof, it's got a dual camera on the high end so you can do zoom. Lots of
:24:24. > :24:27.things going on, little things like the black finish. That's what gets
:24:28. > :24:30.people queueing up, it's the phone they've grown to love, it does
:24:31. > :24:33.everything they want and Apple have this emotional engagement with their
:24:34. > :24:38.customers which keeps drawing them to the devices. Who is calling the
:24:39. > :24:43.shots here, Apple or us? Apple. Apple are telling us what we need?
:24:44. > :24:49.Yes. I'm not big on phones, I get what is cheapest and works. They are
:24:50. > :24:53.getting expensive. Doing pretty much the same as they were a few years
:24:54. > :24:57.ago, only a few minor upgrades. I'm not particularly interested in the
:24:58. > :25:01.iPhone 7. Why are you not interested? I have a phone that's
:25:02. > :25:05.not an iPhone that's great and meets all my needs. I'm one of those that
:25:06. > :25:11.gets the new one as soon as it comes out. I like new things. Over the
:25:12. > :25:14.last ten years, there's been plenty of reasons to upgrade. When you
:25:15. > :25:18.consider once we needed all these things to get through our day, now
:25:19. > :25:24.all we need is this! If there's going to be an iPhone 8,
:25:25. > :25:28.it better be revolutionary. If it could teleport me, that would be
:25:29. > :25:34.good because I do go on Southern. Bad railway? Yes. Weather charging
:25:35. > :25:39.would be great so there are no cables. I want something discreet in
:25:40. > :25:44.my ear. Never run out of battery. Never ending battery? Yes, that
:25:45. > :25:51.would be cool. I'm going to have to break the news to my iPhone 6. It's
:25:52. > :25:54.over. Yes, look, we have had a good couple of years, great memories and
:25:55. > :25:57.great times together but I think it's time to move on. And it's not
:25:58. > :26:06.you, it's really not you, there's nothing wrong with you, and it's not
:26:07. > :26:10.me either. It's Apple. Now, earlier we asked you to send in your Dahl
:26:11. > :26:15.Day costumes and you haven't disappointed. Check this out. This
:26:16. > :26:19.is Charlie wearing George's marvellous medicine bottle and
:26:20. > :26:24.spoon. This is Erin from Northern Ireland
:26:25. > :26:28.as Mrs Twist. And we asked for a giant peach and here it is in the
:26:29. > :26:32.shape of Georgia covered in paper mache. Well done. Julie, thank you
:26:33. > :26:36.so much for coming on the show. National Treasure begins next
:26:37. > :26:42.Tuesday at 9 on Channel 4. We are joined by Nick Knowles and Shakin'
:26:43. > :26:49.Stevens tomorrow. Now to celebrate Roald Dahl's centenary, it's Matilda
:26:50. > :26:57.the musical, which you can see in London's children. In this world,
:26:58. > :26:59.there are small and shrivelled children, small and weak and smelly.
:27:00. > :27:09.You are losers and always will be. # Just because you find that life's
:27:10. > :27:13.not fair # Diusn't mean that you just have to
:27:14. > :27:19.grin and bear it # If you always take it on the chin
:27:20. > :27:23.and web it # Nothing will change
:27:24. > :27:26.# Even if you're little you can do a lot
:27:27. > :27:32.# You mustn't let a little thing like little stop you
:27:33. > :27:34.# If you let things get on top of you
:27:35. > :27:58.# Might be saying you think that it's OK and that's not right
:27:59. > :28:12.Hash your hockey stick and use it as a sword!
:28:13. > :28:39.# Disobey at the same time # You can be vicious
:28:40. > :28:52.# # You are revolting
:28:53. > :28:57.# We are revolting children # We see revolting stuff
:28:58. > :29:02.# We sing revolting stuff # We'll be revolting children
:29:03. > :29:10.# We are revolting. # We are revolting children
:29:11. > :29:16.# We are # Oh, yeah
:29:17. > :29:28.# Down, down, down, down # We are revolting! #
:29:29. > :29:35.BBC Four and looks back at 60 years of the genre...
:29:36. > :29:38.It was a kind of feeling that you just don't get