:00:24. > :00:29.Hello and welcome to the One Show with Alex Jones. And Matt Baker.
:00:29. > :00:33.Tonight we have two great guests. The first is a heavyweight who
:00:33. > :00:38.likes to think he can get politicians to grovel. The other is
:00:38. > :00:40.the star of Gavin And Stacey getting them to do just that. It's
:00:40. > :00:50.Andrew Neil and Joanna Page. APPLAUSE
:00:50. > :00:54.Lovely to see you both. Jo, we saw the Prime Minister boying -- bowing
:00:54. > :00:57.down to you there. You were at a reception at Downing Street for St
:00:57. > :01:02.David's Day. What was going on? think he was blown away by my
:01:02. > :01:06.beauty to be honest. He's a fan of the show. He said "I bow down to
:01:06. > :01:10.you. I'm not worthy. I love the show. You should make more of it."
:01:10. > :01:13.He was very sweet. He's never said that to me! You should wear short
:01:13. > :01:19.skirts. LAUGHTER
:01:19. > :01:23.I've tried that. But he still hasn't said that to me. That is
:01:23. > :01:29.brilliant. We did do a little messing around with the photo. Put
:01:29. > :01:33.that in a frame. Where's the skirt? We'll add that. We'll be talking
:01:33. > :01:37.more to you about your new role later on. One institution that
:01:37. > :01:40.David Cameron certainly doesn't want to bow down to is the European
:01:40. > :01:44.Court of Human Rights. He's pushing for it to be reformed. Here are
:01:44. > :01:47.some of the reasons why. The Government wants to deport
:01:47. > :01:51.certain criminals and terror suspects from the UK. But it can't,
:01:51. > :01:55.because the court says they have the right it a family life here.
:01:55. > :01:59.Parliament passed laws aimed at reducing forced marriages. But it
:01:59. > :02:04.had to scrap them because human rights would be breached. And the
:02:04. > :02:09.PM says the thought of giving prisoners the vote makes him
:02:09. > :02:13.physically sick. Again the European Court says it's their right. Andrew
:02:13. > :02:17.has a new documentary looking at whether decisions in the name of
:02:17. > :02:22.human rights are threatening public support for the justice system.
:02:22. > :02:25.former Home Secretary John Reid thinks they might be. It gives
:02:25. > :02:29.absolute rights to one individual, even when that one individual may
:02:29. > :02:35.be a threat to the rest of the British population. We were
:02:36. > :02:40.prohibited from taking into account the potential effect of terrorism
:02:40. > :02:44.or murder on the other 64 million British people. You mean the rights
:02:44. > :02:47.of everybody else. That's unbalanced. The President of the
:02:47. > :02:50.European Court of Human Rights said today that they're not interfering
:02:50. > :02:54.with the UK justice system. Interesting he's actually British
:02:54. > :02:58.as well. He is indeed. He's been there for a long while. Very
:02:58. > :03:02.distinguished human rights judge. What he said is not what a lot of
:03:02. > :03:06.British politicians think. A lot of politicians think if the European
:03:06. > :03:10.Court is telling Britain it has to give prisoners the vote, even
:03:10. > :03:13.though Parliament has voted ten to one against doing that, and if it
:03:13. > :03:18.has to keep Abu Qatada in this country, even though our courts say
:03:18. > :03:23.he can go back to Jordan, they see that as interference. They may be
:03:23. > :03:27.right or wrong, but the European convention has a big impact in our
:03:27. > :03:30.life now. As in the case of Abu Qatada, the European Court in some
:03:30. > :03:35.people's eyes seem to be ruling on the side of the perpetrator and not
:03:35. > :03:38.protected the victim. That's what's public perception is. That's a
:03:38. > :03:43.common perception. It is a popular public perception. It's not always
:03:43. > :03:47.true. Sometimes things are simplified too much. You don't give
:03:47. > :03:53.both sides of the case, tabloid headlines can be misleading.
:03:53. > :03:57.think maybe the press have said it... Sometimes people get the
:03:57. > :04:00.wrong edge of the wedge. We found that the general feeling that
:04:00. > :04:04.people were in favour of human rights, but sometimes they couldn't
:04:04. > :04:08.understand, as with votes for prisoners, that the judges seem to
:04:08. > :04:12.have a different idea of human rights from the common idea. We all
:04:12. > :04:16.believe in human rights, free elections, free speech, due process,
:04:16. > :04:19.fair trials and they sometimes felt the judges were just maybe pushing
:04:19. > :04:23.the boundaries too far. Do you agree with this? Do you think the
:04:23. > :04:27.papers have sensationalise today and that's why we think that the
:04:27. > :04:31.European courts are siding with them. They have and you get het up
:04:31. > :04:35.when you read the papers and you think, oh, all this is happening. I
:04:35. > :04:40.have to be honest, I don't think that if you've commit aid crime and
:04:41. > :04:45.you are in prison, you have given up your human rights. We tried to
:04:45. > :04:49.give cases in the documentary which are not hyped up in a tabloid way.
:04:49. > :04:54.We looked at this woman in Leeds who has been fighting to stop
:04:54. > :04:56.forced marriages. She succeeded. She got Parliament for the
:04:56. > :05:02.Conservatives, the Liberal Democrats and Labour all voted for
:05:02. > :05:06.a change to make if more difficult to have forced marriages. But the
:05:06. > :05:11.Human Rights Act struck it down. She's not a tabloid figure. She's
:05:11. > :05:14.working hard in difficult parts of Leeds and she just can't, it was a
:05:14. > :05:20.common perception. She couldn't understand why human rights were
:05:20. > :05:24.not on her side rather than others. As she said to me, what could be a
:05:24. > :05:28.worse denial of human rights than being forced into marriage.
:05:28. > :05:33.tell incredible cases. You also meet up with Michael Mansfield a
:05:33. > :05:37.well known lawyer. He puts the other side to you as well. I get a
:05:38. > :05:43.lot of feed back from people who are very supportive of the Human
:05:43. > :05:46.Rights Act because, for example, you know, journalists sources have
:05:46. > :05:49.been protected, disclosure of information for people who want to
:05:49. > :05:55.bring actions against the Government, making the Government
:05:55. > :05:58.accountable, they're all saying, in these cases, it's great. It's
:05:58. > :06:02.provided accountability where it didn't exist before. But David
:06:02. > :06:05.Cameron wants to replace the human rights act with a British Bill of
:06:05. > :06:09.Rights. He does, though it would keep all the rights we currently
:06:09. > :06:15.have from the European convention, which is not a hiedge European
:06:15. > :06:19.conspiracy. Who was behind it? Winston Churchill. I think he was
:06:19. > :06:22.pretty British. Michael Mansfield is right, there's another side to
:06:22. > :06:26.it. The European convention, the court has ruled in favour of gay
:06:26. > :06:30.rights, when they weren't that popular. It stopped Corporal
:06:30. > :06:35.punishment in our schools. I went to the European Court. The Thatcher
:06:35. > :06:39.Government tried to put me in jail when I published Spy Catcher, we
:06:39. > :06:44.lost in a lot of British courts. We went to the European convention
:06:44. > :06:49.court we won 19-0. It ain't all bad at all. I think the documentary is
:06:50. > :06:53.pretty fair in showing both sides. Do you think it can be done? If
:06:53. > :06:57.Cameron wants to leave, is it possible? I think it's very
:06:57. > :07:01.difficult. The coalition is divided on this. Labour is agnostic. John
:07:01. > :07:04.Reid and others who were in the Blair Government would like to see
:07:04. > :07:07.changes. Current Labour leadership isn't too concerned about it. The
:07:07. > :07:13.Conservatives want a UK Bill of Rights. The Lib Dems would rather
:07:13. > :07:17.just leave it as the status quo. Even if we had a British Bill of
:07:17. > :07:21.Rights, it would be secondary to the European convention. We could
:07:21. > :07:26.come out of the European convention and that's possible. But if we do
:07:26. > :07:32.that, we stand with Belarus, which is the worst dictatorship in Europe,
:07:32. > :07:38.so there are no easy choices. either in or out. Exactly.
:07:38. > :07:42.people are thinking the word Magna Carta, watch the documentary.
:07:42. > :07:47.Rights Gone Wrong is on BBC Two at 9pm tomorrow. You need to stick
:07:47. > :07:52.around because we will need you later for something completely
:07:52. > :07:55.different. I wonder what that could be. It's The One Show!
:07:55. > :08:00.hopefully, there's no-one out there thinking about committing fraud. If
:08:00. > :08:03.you are, stop fiddling with your spread sheets and listen up.
:08:03. > :08:07.Because as Marty Jopson explains you can try and break the law, but
:08:07. > :08:11.you can't break the laws of mathematics.
:08:11. > :08:17.Today in Britain a mathematical phenomenon first observed in the
:08:17. > :08:21.19th century is helping to catch fraudsters red handed. It's known
:08:21. > :08:25.as Benfords law and it lous you to predict how many numbers in a
:08:25. > :08:31.sequence start with a one, two, three, four, five, six, seven,
:08:31. > :08:34.eight or nine. But surely such a law would let me predict the
:08:34. > :08:41.lottery results? Unfortunately not, because sequences of numbers don't
:08:41. > :08:44.always behave how we think they do. Let me show you what I mean. This a
:08:44. > :08:49.more diminutive lottery, in this case with just nine balls.
:08:49. > :08:56.If I draw and replace a ball 100 times, each ball should crop up
:08:56. > :09:01.roughly the same amount. So my results turned out like this: Each
:09:01. > :09:06.ball was drawn between eight and 13 times. And the more often you draw
:09:06. > :09:10.the nine balls, the more even the distribution of numbers becomes.
:09:10. > :09:14.But when there's no set limit to the number of things you're
:09:14. > :09:22.counting, like how many snow flakes are in a park, something much more
:09:22. > :09:27.surprising occurs. Take this newspaper for example, I'm going to
:09:27. > :09:31.circle every single number in the paper then tally up how many of
:09:31. > :09:36.those numbers start with a one, two, three, four and so on. We'll see
:09:36. > :09:41.what happening. To be accurate I have to exclude any numbers that do
:09:41. > :09:50.have a limit to their total tally of digits. Like page and telephone
:09:50. > :09:54.numbers. What you might have expected was to see a nice even
:09:54. > :09:59.distribution across the board, but you don't. You get this huge spike
:09:59. > :10:04.at the one end, where I've got 33% of all the numbers we tallied
:10:04. > :10:10.started with a number one. And then carrying on down, as you end up
:10:10. > :10:16.with just 4% starting with a nine. Now Benfords law predicts that this
:10:16. > :10:20.is exactly what you'll get, this sort of curve that goes down like
:10:20. > :10:28.this. Why do we get a curve? If only I could find the perfect place
:10:28. > :10:35.to show you. Bingo! Take a bingo card with just single digit numbers
:10:35. > :10:41.on it, one to nine. Only one of these numbers starts with a one.
:10:41. > :10:46.Number one on its own, number one. If you go to two-digit numbers as
:10:46. > :10:50.well and have a card that has the numbers one to 19 on it, well
:10:50. > :10:55.you've got those ones there and all of these numbers at the bottom all
:10:55. > :11:00.start with a number one. One and nine, 19. Every time you increase
:11:00. > :11:05.the scale by adding another digit, the lead number restarts at one and
:11:05. > :11:11.the pattern repeats itself again. If you have a sufficiently large
:11:11. > :11:17.set of numbers, you should see a nice smooth Benfords curve. When
:11:17. > :11:21.the number one is the thing thaw most often come across, two less so
:11:21. > :11:29.and all the way down to number nine. If you don't see that lovely smooth
:11:29. > :11:34.curve, well something may be amiss. Richard Kusnierz uses Benfords law
:11:34. > :11:39.every day to detect fraught. We are looking at over two million
:11:39. > :11:43.invoices for an organisation. We have mapped them to see how they
:11:43. > :11:48.conform. This is how you expect the numbers to fall. You can see in the
:11:48. > :11:51.vast majority the numbers do fall just below and above the line.
:11:51. > :11:59.you show me something that's less you show me something that's less
:11:59. > :12:02.normal. This is an abnormal graph. This is based on real-life criminal
:12:02. > :12:07.investigation. There are very large spikes, this one here specifically
:12:07. > :12:12.stands out. When we looked at that spike, it related to hotel expenses.
:12:12. > :12:18.When we tried to locate where the hotels were, they didn't exist. So
:12:18. > :12:23.someone was absolutely fiddling their expenses by just creating
:12:23. > :12:29.bogus invoices. So even though this is a 19th century piece of last
:12:29. > :12:34.it's applicable now. Absolutely. We use Benfords in one of the items in
:12:34. > :12:39.our armoury. For those wishing to get rich quick by tampering with
:12:39. > :12:44.financial accounts, beware, Benfords law is not easily fooled.
:12:45. > :12:49.Stick with the lottery, that's the idea. Good tip. According to your
:12:49. > :12:52.new show, The Syndicate. Very exciting. What's it all about?
:12:52. > :12:56.written by Kay Mellor. It's five parts. It's about these people who
:12:56. > :13:00.live in Leeds and work in a small supermarket. There's five of us in
:13:00. > :13:05.a syndicate and we win the lottery. We win about �4 million each
:13:05. > :13:09.because it's split. Each episode follows each of our stories. We're
:13:09. > :13:12.all in all of the episodes, but each story concentrates on a
:13:12. > :13:15.different character. It's a great idea because everybody has...
:13:15. > :13:19.Lottery dreams. Everybody talk abouts it. What would you do, what
:13:19. > :13:22.would happen? Sort of the reality of it, when it happens, I mean you
:13:22. > :13:30.sort of think, it's going to be amazing, we're going to have loads
:13:30. > :13:34.of money and I can do this and all my problems will be solved. This is
:13:34. > :13:41.a fantastic script. You can buy loads of clothes, there aren't any
:13:41. > :13:44.problem, -- problems, but then we choose to go public. Then there are
:13:44. > :13:49.things you are trying to hide. There's lots of drama, bit of
:13:49. > :13:54.comedy. Funny you should say that Jo. Because here you are being all
:13:54. > :13:59.coy about going public with your win. I don't mind the local papers
:13:59. > :14:03.reporting it, but I don't think we should let all the papers know.
:14:03. > :14:07.not. Will it mention our names? but obviously not your addresses.
:14:07. > :14:10.There will be some people who know where you live so. We will have to
:14:10. > :14:15.talk about strategy. What's up love? Nothing I just don't want
:14:15. > :14:21.people knowing my business, that's all. You should be jumping for joy.
:14:21. > :14:27.You just won the lottery. It's not that simple for some of us. We'd
:14:27. > :14:30.like, Leah... My name's Leeian, I don't use Leah. There's a bit of
:14:30. > :14:35.the exclusive. That's the first time you've seen it. That's the
:14:35. > :14:38.first I've seen. I think it looks good! I'll be watching the rest of
:14:38. > :14:43.it now. You were being secretive there.
:14:43. > :14:48.well my character is Welsh. Everybody else is from Leeds. When
:14:48. > :14:52.I went to the audition, I had only read the first two episodes and my
:14:52. > :14:57.character is mysterious, I assumed she was from Leeds as well. Had you
:14:57. > :15:04.prepared a Leeds accent. Yes, everything. Do it. No, I'm not
:15:04. > :15:06.doing it now! I turned up and Kay said no, she's Welsh, she's come
:15:06. > :15:09.from somewhere else. She's been living with him and working there
:15:09. > :15:16.for five years. She revealed my story and I thought it was
:15:17. > :15:22.brilliant. Yes, it's all very exciting. So each episode is a
:15:22. > :15:25.different person, what episode is yours? Four. It's the best one!
:15:25. > :15:30.know you from Gavin And Stacey, but in this your daughter is called
:15:30. > :15:34.Stacey. I know it sounds thick, but it was really confusing. When I
:15:34. > :15:37.first read the script, I thought oh, this is a quo incidence, that must
:15:37. > :15:43.mean I'm going to get the part. If I don't get it, something's wrong.
:15:43. > :15:47.You know filming and saying "Stacey" and calling her, it felt
:15:47. > :15:51.wrong. There was one day when I had to scream Stacey over and over
:15:51. > :15:55.about 500 times and the cast and crew were making fun of me and it
:15:55. > :15:59.became the word of the day. After I'd done it then, I'd got it out of
:15:59. > :16:04.my system. Talking about family in real life your husband is James
:16:04. > :16:13.Thornton, who did incredibly well on Let's Get Ready To Rumble, but
:16:13. > :16:17.you have the -- let's dance for Sport Relief. But you had an
:16:17. > :16:25.incredible meeting. We were in a costume drama called David
:16:25. > :16:28.Copperfield. I played his wife and he played David's best friend. We
:16:28. > :16:32.didn't have any scenes together but then it came on TV and I saw him
:16:32. > :16:36.and just saw this rugged, lovely man, lifting David up and putting
:16:36. > :16:40.him on his shoulders and I told my mother I wanted him to be the
:16:40. > :16:46.father my children and apparently he saw me, this English, sweet girl
:16:46. > :16:51.and fell in love with me. Then he was... You were both watching it on
:16:51. > :16:55.telly? Yes, he was in a play at the national theatre with Maxine Peek
:16:55. > :17:02.and she phoned me and said "There's a man here who says he's in love
:17:02. > :17:06.with you. Will you see him?" And it was John Major. How long until he
:17:06. > :17:10.proposed? My mum will know this. He propolesed after a year, then we
:17:10. > :17:14.were engaged for a year and we got married. It's a lovely story. We
:17:14. > :17:19.could talk for hours, but we haven't got the time. The Syndicate
:17:19. > :17:22.starts from 27th March on BBC One. Now young people with learning
:17:22. > :17:27.difficulties would normally stop receiving state-funded education
:17:27. > :17:30.once they reach 19. But Simon Boazman has met one head teacher
:17:30. > :17:36.keeping all the pupils on whatever the courts, councils or budgets
:17:36. > :17:41.might say. There are 38,000 pupils in the UK
:17:41. > :17:45.with severe or profound special educational needs and here at the
:17:45. > :17:49.Columbus college in Essex they teach over 100 of them. Concerns
:17:49. > :17:53.over what happen when's they leave education, with options for
:17:53. > :17:59.training and work limited, has seen the college rip up the rule book
:17:59. > :18:07.and take an unusual stand. Pupils here study a broad curriculum from
:18:07. > :18:12.dance to life skills to the three Rs, up to age 19. After that, local
:18:12. > :18:16.authority funding runs out. Families and teachers say 19 is too
:18:16. > :18:25.early to leave for some students, especially when the support they
:18:25. > :18:28.get after can be limited. Meet 22- year-old Maria, she's the college's
:18:28. > :18:35.oldest pupil. How many years have you been here? I would reckon about
:18:35. > :18:41.six. OK. And is it a good school, are you enjoying it? Today looks
:18:41. > :18:47.like great fun? There's cooking and art and ballet. Do you think this
:18:47. > :18:50.helps prepare you for when you leave college? Yes. Maria's family
:18:50. > :18:55.hope that won't be for another three years, because they say,
:18:55. > :18:59.staying on is teaching her vital skills. Up until now, Maria's
:18:59. > :19:02.college place has been funded by her Local Education Authority
:19:02. > :19:07.whilst her parents fought through the courts. She's already had an
:19:07. > :19:13.extension of three years, but Maria's parents want to keep her at
:19:13. > :19:20.college until she's 25. She, little by little, is learning more and
:19:20. > :19:25.more about how you become an adult and take her place in adult society.
:19:25. > :19:32.There's a risk that if she wasn't at Columbus, there would be nowhere
:19:32. > :19:35.really. So the head teacher has taken a stand. He's spent tens of
:19:35. > :19:39.thousands from the existing school budget and defied local authority
:19:39. > :19:43.rules to allow eight students to stay on. I realise everything costs.
:19:43. > :19:51.But you can't be in my job and settle for second best. I want the
:19:51. > :19:54.best for these young people. I do believe that a head teacher has a
:19:54. > :19:57.moral responsibility that goes beyond,if you like, just the strict
:19:57. > :20:02.guidelines that are in place. is money that's coming out of the
:20:02. > :20:05.school budget, what about the other kids? The other kids here, if this
:20:05. > :20:08.continued, must suffer because that money would have been spent on
:20:08. > :20:14.their education, won't be there. Yeah, again it's a question of
:20:14. > :20:17.judgment. I have to satisfy myself that no youngster here is Negtively
:20:17. > :20:21.affected by this stand that we're affected by this stand that we're
:20:21. > :20:25.taking. But, and I'm satisfied that they're not, or I wouldn't be doing
:20:25. > :20:30.it. The Government says it wants to improve support for young people
:20:30. > :20:36.with special educational needs up to the age of 25. Local funding is
:20:36. > :20:41.intended for pupils up to 19 and Malcom is bending those rules.
:20:41. > :20:45.Thomas, who is autistic, is a former pupil, who didn't have the
:20:45. > :20:51.option to stay on. Instead, he had to be sent to the only place that
:20:51. > :20:55.met his needs, a residential centre, 150 miles away from home. His
:20:56. > :20:59.family say they all suffered. felt like somebody had put their
:21:00. > :21:02.hand inside my chest and ripped my heart out. I realised that it
:21:02. > :21:10.really was the wrong decision. He was in the wrong place. He wasn't
:21:10. > :21:14.happy. Thomas has a younger brother Joseph. He's also autistic and a
:21:14. > :21:17.current Columbus student. We're out of time now. We have to finish.
:21:18. > :21:23.Joseph is 19 and the family are delighted he will be staying on
:21:23. > :21:30.next year. In Joseph's case, I feel far more confident than I did with
:21:30. > :21:34.Thomas, because there was nothing. Now there is something. Malcom,
:21:34. > :21:39.bless him, and everybody at blum bus, getting these extra years is
:21:39. > :21:43.going to do him good. He has the opportunity to carry on. By next
:21:43. > :21:46.year the college may be an academy and Malcom will have more control
:21:46. > :21:51.over funding. Either way, ten more students, due to leave, will stay
:21:51. > :21:54.We're meant to be an establishment that cares about people with
:21:54. > :21:57.disabilities. And I believe it's important to care about them not
:21:57. > :22:02.just when they're with you, but for the future and what happens
:22:02. > :22:07.afterwards. This is a subject close to your heart. You have become a
:22:07. > :22:16.patron of a Welsh charity that looks after children with
:22:16. > :22:19.difficulties. You can donate money but it's for a primary school in
:22:19. > :22:27.Swansea. They want to raise �1 million to get a hydrotherapy
:22:28. > :22:31.school in the -- hydrotherapy pool in the school. Lots of the kids is
:22:31. > :22:33.cerebral palsy. It's nice for them. It's the first time they get
:22:33. > :22:37.independence as well. They don't have somebody looking after them
:22:37. > :22:41.all the time. They can just relax. They need to raise �1 million. They
:22:41. > :22:46.have �45,000 at the moment. If they get up to �250,000, they can apply
:22:46. > :22:51.for grants and it will be good for them. If you want to donate
:22:51. > :22:56.anything... Good start having you as their patron. Shall we have a
:22:56. > :23:01.dance? Carrie Grant has been delving into the story behind one
:23:01. > :23:09.of the most dancable hits of the 80s. It had clubbers spinning round
:23:09. > :23:15.like a record, baby. Right round. Round, round.
:23:15. > :23:19.The 1980s saw clubbers in the UK dancing to a new sound high energy
:23:20. > :23:24.spelled NRG. It made you want to dance. A dance craze always creates
:23:24. > :23:31.a number one hit. This launched a track called spin spin. It brought
:23:31. > :23:36.together a production -- you spin me round. It brought together Stock,
:23:36. > :23:41.Aitken and Waterman and Dead Of Alive. I wanted to make a glittery
:23:41. > :23:47.disco record. I wanted to work with them. I had seen him on Top of the
:23:47. > :23:51.Pops. He caught my eye immediately. # I get to know your name... #
:23:51. > :23:55.Pete Waterman was already well established in the music industry.
:23:55. > :24:00.He and his new team were eager to find fresh talent. It arrives in
:24:00. > :24:03.the form of burns burns brns, a young man with plenty of -- Pete
:24:04. > :24:07.Burns, a young man with plenty of promise.
:24:07. > :24:12.I just knew the first time you played me the demo that there was
:24:12. > :24:16.something magic about it. This was, I just saw that this was our first
:24:16. > :24:20.number one. You have to remember we have been fighting to make a living,
:24:20. > :24:26.fighting to get a reputation and there you walked in and said to me
:24:26. > :24:30."Would I shine it?" You shine today with knobs on. Sitting down
:24:30. > :24:35.together for the first time in 20 years the two Petes have no trouble
:24:35. > :24:41.remembering the track that brought them both to the public h lick eye.
:24:41. > :24:50.Because I couldn't listen -- play a music I used -- an instrument, I
:24:50. > :24:58.used to listen to the breaks in the music. I was listening to Luther
:24:58. > :25:02.Vand ross. I started going # You spin me right round, like a
:25:02. > :25:06.record, round, round. They hadn't heard the other version, but we
:25:06. > :25:13.came up with our version. original has never been heard
:25:13. > :25:17.before until now. It's been unearthed specially for the One
:25:17. > :25:25.Show. The band felt this lacked the high energy sound they danced to in
:25:25. > :25:30.the clubs. A sound that was Stock, Aitken and Waterman's production.
:25:30. > :25:36.It webt -- it went from this... To this.
:25:36. > :25:40.It was the Sound of the Underground. It was a sound that was
:25:40. > :25:44.fundamentally only accessible in gay clubs. He had take continue out
:25:44. > :25:49.of gay clubs and put it onto mainstream radio, which was a
:25:49. > :25:54.triumph. He had the magic touch. Pete Waterman's vision for this
:25:54. > :25:59.track saw the blending together of three very different genres, the
:25:59. > :26:03.rockier edge of Dead Of Alive, Waterman's own dance background and
:26:03. > :26:10.a great pop track. Could you define the sound of this track? Techno
:26:10. > :26:14.disco. Without a question that's what it was. It was new technology
:26:15. > :26:19.playing Motown. That's all it was. Taking out of musicians and
:26:19. > :26:25.bringing in technology for the first time. Pete just added a
:26:25. > :26:30.veneer to that that you couldn't purchase. But this process meant
:26:30. > :26:34.that Pete's band often felt side lined and tempers frayed. Pete
:26:34. > :26:38.Waterman kicked everyone out of the studio except the sound engineer
:26:38. > :26:48.and finished the track itself. thing everybody picks up is the
:26:48. > :26:50.
:26:50. > :26:53.little thing, total mistake. We were so tired, so we left it in. He
:26:54. > :26:59.went barmyi. He was like a kid. You could see he loved every minute of
:26:59. > :27:04.it. He was so excited. Mistakes and all, the track became their first
:27:04. > :27:11.number one. They went on to produce more than 100 top 40 hits, with the
:27:11. > :27:16.likes of Kylie, Jason Donovan and Bananarama. One thing I could make
:27:16. > :27:21.a living at is spotting what people liked and not just the obvious. I
:27:21. > :27:26.think with Spin me Round, it had been almost like here was 20 years
:27:26. > :27:32.of my life waiting to happen. It ticked every box. I got goose bumps.
:27:33. > :27:36.Kerching. I'm so lucky to have it. I realise that now as the knees are
:27:36. > :27:42.getting sniff and the teeth are falling out, you know what I mean?
:27:42. > :27:46.I'm glad I did something that's gone down in history.
:27:46. > :27:50.Just remarkable. I'm sure you'll agree that the demo for that piece
:27:50. > :27:54.of music was unearthed especially for The One Show. Lots of you at
:27:54. > :28:02.home won't know this, but Andrew is back because he is in fact a dance
:28:02. > :28:06.expert. It says here. It doesn't say it. We have the proof. We know
:28:06. > :28:10.because we've seen you, Sir George Porter and former Home Secretary,
:28:10. > :28:20.Jacqui Smith, throwing some shapes after a hard edition of this week.
:28:20. > :28:26.
:28:26. > :28:31.APPLAUSE DJ! You wouldn't get that on
:28:31. > :28:36.Newsnight, would you? Probably just as well. We know that politics and
:28:36. > :28:44.pop music rarely mix. We have a bit of a quick for you. Can you get who
:28:44. > :28:52.this leader is with these dulcet tones.
:28:52. > :28:58.# On blueberry hill # On blueberry hill, where I found
:28:58. > :29:04.you... # What's point of asking who it is,
:29:04. > :29:12.when we couldn't hear a thing. be honest that didn't go as we
:29:13. > :29:19.hoped. He was Russian... Yeltsin. No Putin on the Ritz. Putin. Here
:29:19. > :29:24.it is again. They're probably enjoying it at
:29:24. > :29:28.home. Not quite as planned. Thank you so much Joannea. The Syndicate