:00:22. > :00:28.Hello and welcome to The One Show, with Alex Jones... And Matt Baker.
:00:28. > :00:33.Now, see if you can fill in the blanks with our guest tonight.
:00:33. > :00:38.radio to television, from Children in Need To Euro vision, for half-a-
:00:38. > :00:43.century, he has been a complete and utter blank in the entertainment
:00:43. > :00:50.business. And he has been entertaining the public with his
:00:50. > :00:55.perky Irish blank. Have you got it yet? It is Sir Terry Blank! We will
:00:55. > :01:04.come back. How are you? That is a hot war been welcomed. If I could
:01:04. > :01:09.reach across two sloppy both... -- a heart-warming welcomed. I am
:01:09. > :01:16.unchanged. And Sir Brucie has now joined due in the night had rung.
:01:16. > :01:21.If he has. And I am rather resentful. I thought I had
:01:21. > :01:31.something rather exclusive. I am delighted for him, of course. Who
:01:31. > :01:31.
:01:31. > :01:37.could deny him. He has been king of Saturday-night television since the
:01:37. > :01:43.poll of police and war, really! Everybody is thrilled. Back in the
:01:43. > :01:53.Dark Ages, knights used to joust. We have interesting footage of some
:01:53. > :01:58.
:01:58. > :02:07.battles here. # Shine your light on me!
:02:07. > :02:12.# It isn't easy when the sun goes down!
:02:12. > :02:18.Mercifully, I had forgotten that! Was macro thing I hope you have not
:02:18. > :02:24.forgotten is that back in 2003, I gave you a very special award. Was
:02:24. > :02:33.the bold blue Peter badge I gave you more than your night at? -- and
:02:33. > :02:37.gold Blue Peter badge. No! I'm glad you didn't ask me where it is.
:02:37. > :02:42.haven't sold it? I have lost my sword from my knighthood as well,
:02:42. > :02:45.though. We know we have got some highly accomplished he was, so if
:02:45. > :02:51.you have been mentioned in the honours list or if you are proud of
:02:51. > :02:58.a member of your family who has, we want to know who you are. Yes, it
:02:58. > :03:06.could be an OBE, MBE or even a night at. Get them out! Send a
:03:06. > :03:11.message to arrive email address or to our Facebook page and we what --
:03:11. > :03:18.we will read some out at the end of the show. We are now going to take
:03:18. > :03:26.a little peek -- later on we are going to take a peek behind the
:03:26. > :03:31.scenes of your new shows. If you find out your child is taking drugs,
:03:31. > :03:39.it is a terrifying thing. We speak to a mother who carried out a
:03:39. > :03:45.desperate act to save her daughter. Tabitha has always had a loving
:03:45. > :03:51.relationship with her mother, Julia. She has always been a very clever
:03:51. > :04:00.trialled. She always had her arms around me and was 8 mum's belt. A
:04:01. > :04:05.very lovely child and a very cuddly teenager. We were close, me and my
:04:05. > :04:09.mum. We were like friends as well as mother and daughter. But that
:04:09. > :04:14.Bond was pushed to breaking point by Julia's discovery that Tabitha
:04:14. > :04:24.had developed an 80 pound a day addiction to heroin. I thought I
:04:24. > :04:24.
:04:24. > :04:28.could lose her at any moment. She could take that fatal dose... It
:04:28. > :04:37.was total grief. Total devastating grief. We literally cried and cried
:04:38. > :04:42.and cried. It made me more dishonest. Because obviously, I was
:04:42. > :04:51.looking for things to pay my way and I didn't really came where it
:04:51. > :04:57.came from. -- I didn't care. Money, jewellery, electric things.
:04:57. > :05:03.Everything, really. Everything. veins are collapsing or have been
:05:03. > :05:07.seriously damaged by her injecting this filthy, evil drug into herself.
:05:07. > :05:13.But she is still my baby and I will do anything for her and I will do
:05:13. > :05:17.anything to defend her and protector. The family home became a
:05:17. > :05:25.battleground. Tabitha's addiction to heroin ultimately proved too
:05:25. > :05:28.much for Julia to take. Was that sense of helplessness and
:05:28. > :05:33.desperation what was going to turn Julia from being an everyday
:05:33. > :05:41.working mum in to somebody about to break the law? Tabard there was
:05:41. > :05:45.planning a visit to a local drug dealer but her mother and her ex-
:05:45. > :05:50.boyfriend resorted to extraordinary measures to keeper at home.
:05:50. > :05:55.Basically, he was telling me, you cannot let her go out again, she is
:05:55. > :05:59.going to kill herself. We need to keep her in. I Sellotaped her legs
:05:59. > :06:03.together to stop her going out of the house, just beneath her knees
:06:03. > :06:09.and above her ankles, simply because I wanted to stop her from
:06:09. > :06:15.running. On reflection, it sounds a bit extreme but it was a spur-of-
:06:15. > :06:21.the-moment thing. I thought, you cannot keep me in forever. One way
:06:21. > :06:26.or another, I am going to get out. It didn't seem rational to lock
:06:26. > :06:34.somebody up because you have to let them go at some point but rebels
:06:34. > :06:41.stop tide and bound, Tabitha was injured by Christopher Turin that
:06:41. > :06:45.scuffle. Both her mother and Christopher were arrested. It was
:06:45. > :06:50.the wrong thing for me to do and I should have let her go and do what
:06:50. > :06:57.she wanted to do. In the eyes of the law. In the eyes of the law it
:06:57. > :07:01.is what I should have done. But as a mother? No, of course I would do
:07:01. > :07:07.the same thing tomorrow, if it meant locking the door. Of course I
:07:07. > :07:12.would. I had to go one way or the other and I wanted to keep her safe.
:07:12. > :07:17.Tabitha wrote to the court pleading for her mum to be shown leniency,
:07:17. > :07:22.but those pleas fell on deaf ears. Julia was found guilty and
:07:22. > :07:27.sentenced to 12 months in jail. Christopher was also convicted of
:07:27. > :07:33.false imprisonment as well as being found guilty of actual bodily harm,
:07:33. > :07:37.and had an 18 month sentence. After three months behind bars, Julia has
:07:37. > :07:42.been allowed to serve the rest of her time at home in Dover, but that
:07:42. > :07:48.means having to wear an electronic tag 24 hours a day. Where is it? It
:07:48. > :07:53.is on my ankle. Are you were allowed out here? I am but not
:07:53. > :07:58.after 7pm at night and not before 8am in the morning. If it was found
:07:58. > :08:03.to be absent, I could be arrested. What is it like living like that?
:08:03. > :08:07.It is not so bad. I am not imprisoned. It is a small price to
:08:07. > :08:12.pay. It is a bit prohibitive but it is a small price to pay to be at
:08:12. > :08:16.home and with my family. Tabitha is now using methadone instead of
:08:16. > :08:20.heroin in a bid to finally bring her addiction to drugs to an end.
:08:20. > :08:25.have to accept the fact she is going to live as an adult and make
:08:25. > :08:28.lots of decisions I won't agree with all stop it is just the whole
:08:28. > :08:38.addiction was quite extreme. It is not something I think any parent
:08:38. > :08:44.can ignore. But I think there's not anything we can't do. Vivienne
:08:44. > :08:50.Evans is here, the head of Adfam, an organisation that supports
:08:50. > :08:55.families dealing with drug and alcohol use. It is kind of a shock
:08:55. > :09:01.reaction. What did you make of what Julia bid? Parents do feel like
:09:01. > :09:06.taking very desperate measures. It is a shame that Juliet did not talk
:09:06. > :09:09.to her local drugs service. They might have been able to refer to
:09:09. > :09:13.his specialist family support service because they do exist
:09:13. > :09:21.across the country and they can offer information and advice,
:09:21. > :09:26.perhaps using a helpline, offer support and counselling, often 1-1
:09:26. > :09:30.and also counselling support groups, so she would have been able to talk
:09:30. > :09:34.to other parents in the same situation. There are some that
:09:34. > :09:38.offer an intensive therapeutic way of working so they work with the
:09:38. > :09:44.whole family to see what is going on and help them to communicate. It
:09:44. > :09:48.is so desperate. And think it was so desperate. Tabitha so much
:09:48. > :09:52.needed help herself but what we find is that if parents cannot find
:09:52. > :09:57.support for them in their own right, they are not actually able to cope
:09:58. > :10:03.with the situation. We heard there that Julia was sentenced to prison
:10:03. > :10:09.for her actions. Burglars don't get prison. Terry, do you think this is
:10:09. > :10:12.extreme? It is one of those things you need the wisdom of Solomon Paul
:10:12. > :10:22.Foster up I am not qualified to say one way or the other, as most
:10:22. > :10:27.people are. It seems excessive. To send a woman to prison... It is
:10:27. > :10:33.quite perverse. The more cases like this we hero of, the more airtime
:10:33. > :10:40.it gets and I had the better it will be for families. -- the more
:10:40. > :10:44.cases like this we hear of. The less they speak out, the more
:10:44. > :10:50.stigma they feel. You don't get an OBE or a knighthood for being a
:10:50. > :10:54.drug user. I think the more we hear of stories like this, extreme
:10:54. > :10:57.though they may be, it does highlight the problem, and one
:10:57. > :11:04.thing we want to do is bring it out into the open sewer more families
:11:04. > :11:10.will get the support they require. Thank you very much. If you need
:11:10. > :11:17.help or advice on this issue, there are links on our website. We are
:11:18. > :11:23.just hearing that we have had an MBE popping down from Scotland. Two
:11:23. > :11:28.Moore, Francis Drake, so Walter Raleigh and Admiral Lord Nelson.
:11:28. > :11:37.You can and bows to Britain's euros. But Dan Snow thinks there is one
:11:37. > :11:41.opera -- one more name we should add.
:11:41. > :11:47.As great men's graves go, you would be forgiven for thinking this one
:11:47. > :11:50.was nearly dead and buried. And yet here, in his final resting place in
:11:50. > :12:00.his simple churchyard in south London is a colossus of British
:12:00. > :12:01.
:12:01. > :12:06.history. Add more Robert FitzRoy's most visionary seafarer -- Aberthaw
:12:06. > :12:12.Robert FitzRoy was the most visionary see fair of his time. His
:12:12. > :12:16.entire life was a voyage of discovery. And on one voyage, his
:12:16. > :12:21.discovery changed the world. He made weather forecasting a science
:12:21. > :12:28.and even found at the Met Office, and all before Victoria was on the
:12:28. > :12:31.throne. He was a highly respected sailor, one of the best. If he had
:12:31. > :12:35.been born a generation or so earlier, he would probably have
:12:35. > :12:38.been the person who discovered Australia. Several of the officers
:12:38. > :12:43.wrote later that they thought when they joined his ship that they
:12:43. > :12:48.thought they knew everything there was to know about sailing but he
:12:48. > :12:56.taught them much more. For a man who had the X Factor in his day,
:12:56. > :13:03.just how did he become history's forgotten man? His adventures began
:13:03. > :13:07.in a frosty Plymouth in December, 1831. After months of frustrating
:13:07. > :13:12.delays, FitzRoy finally got underway. It had been the most
:13:12. > :13:20.important voyage of his life, and his mission was to circumnavigate
:13:20. > :13:24.and map the world. His command was HMS Beagle. It was to be an epic
:13:24. > :13:28.journey through uncharted waters to the far side of the world and at
:13:28. > :13:32.times, it would be lonely. That is why he brought with him a man who
:13:32. > :13:40.shared his enthusiasm for Christianity and the natural world.
:13:40. > :13:48.A relatively unknown scientist called Charles Darwin. But in 1831,
:13:48. > :13:53.it wasn't Charles Darwin making waves. It was Robert FitzRoy. And
:13:53. > :14:00.he did it by using these. This is a chronometer, a real time machine.
:14:00. > :14:05.It is a highly engineered clock and he had 22 on board. He paid for six
:14:05. > :14:07.himself and he paid for his scientist to service them. This
:14:07. > :14:16.cutting-edge technology pay both the way for huge scientific
:14:16. > :14:20.discovery. -- paved the way. When you want to position yourself on a
:14:20. > :14:24.chart, you need to know what time it is where you are and what high
:14:24. > :14:29.and this provides you with Greenwich time and you must not let
:14:29. > :14:32.it stop or move the hands, so you would establish noon in Tahiti and
:14:32. > :14:40.then established her own time and the time difference provides you
:14:40. > :14:45.with how from round the world you are. -- how far around the world.
:14:45. > :14:53.Using his readings, maps became more accurate than ever. This was a
:14:53. > :14:59.revelation and it changed travel forever. He came home hero, the
:14:59. > :15:03.mission a resounding triumph. But it was soon eclipsed by his little
:15:03. > :15:06.known shipmate. While FitzRoy had been wrapping the world, Darwin had
:15:06. > :15:11.come up with a radical new explanation of life on Earth.
:15:11. > :15:21.FitzRoy might have unlocked the secrets of the sea. If Darwin had
:15:21. > :15:21.
:15:21. > :15:25.discovered the secret of life Fitzroy was horrified by Darwin's
:15:25. > :15:31.theory and blamed himself for taking the young naturalist on
:15:31. > :15:35.board. Unable to live with his own anguish, he eventually took his own
:15:35. > :15:39.life. But his legacy lived on. Sailors were still using his maps
:15:39. > :15:47.100 years after his death. It is about time we remembered Robert
:15:47. > :15:52.Fitzroy for being a lot more than just the other bloke on the Beagle.
:15:52. > :15:59.The shipping forecast, Fitzroy, isolated showers, good. South
:15:59. > :16:04.Fitzroy, rain at times, moderate or good. South Fitzroy, fair, good.
:16:04. > :16:09.Great to hear the great man immortalised in the shipping
:16:10. > :16:16.forecast. Broadcast on Radio 4. Do you ever venture on to Radio 4?
:16:16. > :16:20.use to slum it in the early morning when I would get up and have my
:16:20. > :16:27.fruit breakfast, all five, no vegetables! And I would turn on
:16:27. > :16:35.Radio 4 to find out what happened. And I would then come armoured with
:16:35. > :16:41.information. I don't do that now. I don't get up early enough. But I do
:16:41. > :16:46.wake about sixth.00 in the morning, I'm an old guy now. But I fall over
:16:46. > :16:52.-- turn over and fall asleep again. Now, back to the beginning. Radio
:16:52. > :17:00.was a big passion of yours as a child? I was brought up, born in a
:17:00. > :17:08.town in Ireland called Limerick on the mouth of the Shannon. I suppose,
:17:08. > :17:18.unlike most of my peers, I grew up listening to not Irish radio but
:17:18. > :17:22.
:17:22. > :17:28.the BBC light programmes. Take It From Here, The Goons Show. They
:17:28. > :17:34.were my influences. I was formed by the BBC. So, when I eventually came
:17:34. > :17:40.to work here, it wasn't that much of a wrench. There was a
:17:40. > :17:46.frightening picture of me there, did you see that? Let's move on
:17:46. > :17:54.Sunday morning, BBC Radio 2, woing an's Weekend. Do you miss the
:17:54. > :17:58.breakfast show? I miss the bon ami. I miss the input from hundreds of
:17:58. > :18:04.listeners every morning and their cock-eyed view of the world, like
:18:04. > :18:11.me own. I've really missed that. I love doing the Sunday show. It is
:18:11. > :18:18.live radio. But it is live music as well. There's bits you've carried
:18:18. > :18:24.over? Yes, but, for instance, it is great to have Sophie Ellis Bextor
:18:24. > :18:28.singing two of her songs. The boys from Westlife dropping in and
:18:28. > :18:33.playing your favourite music. I've John Inverdale telling us all that
:18:33. > :18:39.lies ahead of us with Wimbledon. I shall be there on the opening day
:18:39. > :18:44.on the centre court. Were you aware that our cameras were there
:18:44. > :18:52.yesterday film can your every move. A lot of which involved cake!
:18:52. > :19:00.could you not be aware of it, they were everywhere. Sophie Ellis
:19:00. > :19:06.Bextor. She'll be singing live? She'll be in here. You're better
:19:06. > :19:10.off listening to Radio 2, in out of the rain. Getting up on Sunday has
:19:10. > :19:20.its compensations. It is the cakes and pastries which keep my blood
:19:20. > :19:21.
:19:21. > :19:29.sugar level up. You don't hear that one very often. Sorry to talk to
:19:29. > :19:36.you wild your mouth is full! Don't let me interrupt your eating.
:19:37. > :19:45.was deliberate! This is broadcasting at its best on BBC
:19:45. > :19:51.Radio 2. Kick the man. I've never liked him. Who is he? You mentioned
:19:51. > :19:55.the pie, Danish, strudel and trau berry tart? I don't ask for these
:19:55. > :20:04.things, they force them upon me. It is vital to keep one's energy
:20:04. > :20:09.levels up. A bit of fruit cake every so often, in common with the
:20:09. > :20:15.again -- general theme of the programme. You suppose you get
:20:15. > :20:21.loads sent by your listeners? encouraged it. There wasn't a day
:20:21. > :20:29.went by which wasn't national pie week, fish and chip week! Paim came
:20:29. > :20:33.in, particularly Ken bruise at 8.00. He'd say a Scott, probably got that
:20:33. > :20:38.from the accent "how can you eat curry at this hour of the morning?"
:20:38. > :20:45.easily. When you get up at 5.00, it is lunch time at 8.00 in the
:20:45. > :20:49.morning. I can eat anything at any time. You couldn't tell that from
:20:49. > :20:55.my racing snake figure? You have a great time, of course, with Alan
:20:55. > :20:59.Dedicoat? No, no, he's entirely unacceptable to me but forces
:20:59. > :21:04.himself upon me every Sunday morning. He only comes in for the
:21:04. > :21:10.cake! You have that real relaxed feel to your radio. I've been doing
:21:10. > :21:15.it since God was a boy. It always came naturally to me. It is not a
:21:15. > :21:21.great talent. It is just something I can do. I've found years and
:21:21. > :21:26.years ago, I found something I could do. What would I be doing in
:21:26. > :21:31.selling second-hand cars. I'd have retired as an under-manager of a
:21:31. > :21:40.bank somewhere in Ireland. I was lucky. You have to remember how
:21:40. > :21:46.lucky you are. Radio 2 have 2day on 2nd June? A team of people working
:21:46. > :21:51.to call it that. What's going on? It is show show the lights of Radio
:21:51. > :21:57.2, nobody sits and listens to a network all day and all night. This
:21:57. > :22:01.is just to give awe fragrant nose gay throughout the day of
:22:01. > :22:06.everything you might be missing. I have a list here. Presenters are
:22:06. > :22:15.teaming up with each other? I can't read anyone out or nobody would
:22:15. > :22:21.talk to me again. It will go from 7.00am-7.00pm. Claudia Winkleman,
:22:21. > :22:27.Jo Whiley. That will be a cat fight! Jeremy Vine and Dermot
:22:27. > :22:33.O'Leary 9-10.00am. Chris Evans, who you may have heard off and Joey
:22:33. > :22:41.ball rock and roll back the years. You're the main event? You're on at
:22:41. > :22:51.7 ok? That's not the main event. I'm with Jools Holland who has a
:22:51. > :22:51.
:22:51. > :22:58.fantastic band. Jamie Morgan. Jamie Cullum. Claire Teale, Frank Renton.
:22:58. > :23:03.Nigel Ogden from 6-7. Me introducing Jools Holland. He can
:23:03. > :23:09.introduce himself. What does he need me for? All bases covered.
:23:09. > :23:14.22nd June, avoid it if you can. Mike Dilger goes to extraordinary
:23:14. > :23:20.lengths to see British wildlife. In the next film, he has to take some
:23:20. > :23:25.pretty dangerous steps to reach his targets. It is some Welsh birds
:23:25. > :23:30.causing him all that trouble. Typical! Whilst there's plenty of
:23:31. > :23:37.wildlife to be found in our back gardens, it is one of Britain's far
:23:37. > :23:41.plunge intrepid animals I'm after. It might superficialy resemble a
:23:41. > :23:44.carrying crow or jackdaw but they are much rarer than this. With
:23:44. > :23:50.their bright red legs and bill it looks like they've been standing in
:23:50. > :23:56.a bowl of tram at owe soup and drinking from it. I'm talking about
:23:56. > :24:01.the choughs. They live and north- west in rug he had far flung
:24:01. > :24:08.locations like here in North Wales which makes studying them tricky.
:24:08. > :24:13.That job falls to choughs fanatic Tony. What is your work telling you
:24:13. > :24:20.about what the choufs are doing? One is to look at the moment of
:24:20. > :24:24.birds around Wales. The other part is looking at the basic breeding
:24:24. > :24:30.biology of choughs. You can only really do all these things by
:24:30. > :24:34.having a population of birds which is individually recognisable.
:24:34. > :24:41.Topey's placing bright coloured rings on the choughs chicks to spot
:24:41. > :24:47.which birds move where. First he has to catch them. They nest in
:24:47. > :24:53.extreme places so need specialist equipment. The first is 30 metres
:24:53. > :25:00.inside this sea cave. We need to get in at low tide. In quick, do
:25:00. > :25:05.the job and back out again. Tony is licensed to do this. Although Wales
:25:05. > :25:11.is a hot spot for choughs, there are still only 270 pairs here so
:25:11. > :25:14.they are heavily protected. They nest in inexcessible places to
:25:14. > :25:20.protect them from predators and the elements. We make it in and sure
:25:20. > :25:28.enough, the chicks are here. There's a chick on the ledge.
:25:28. > :25:34.Fantastic. This is as remote a nest as I've ever visited in my entire
:25:34. > :25:41.life. Waves crashing outside. Virtually dark inside. Just over my
:25:41. > :25:45.choulder is the choughs nest and I can see a chick -- shoulder. At
:25:45. > :25:51.four weeks old, the chicks still haven't developed their red bill
:25:51. > :25:55.but they are ready to be ringed. use a series of rings with a unique
:25:55. > :26:01.colour combination. There's nine colours. By using both legs you can
:26:01. > :26:07.get up to several hundred combinations. We coloured-ringed
:26:07. > :26:11.4,000 choughs in the last 20 years. I associate them as being in the
:26:11. > :26:17.most amazing remote places. Like this. Like this. The crash of the
:26:17. > :26:23.waves is coming in. We'll have to get our skates on. We have to beat
:26:23. > :26:30.a hasty retreat and the parents soon return to feed their checks
:26:31. > :26:35.albeit now with some colourful tags. Tony wants to ring 350 chicks so
:26:35. > :26:40.there's no time to rest and we're straight on to the next nest. This
:26:40. > :26:48.is more like it, Tony. The first couple of times we tried to get to
:26:49. > :26:53.this one we couldn't. The nest is behind us under there somewhere.
:26:53. > :27:02.the chough chicks are under our Fieth? I have to go below and under
:27:02. > :27:08.the roof of the cave there. The truly challenging terrain sadly
:27:08. > :27:12.prevents tone yie from ever reaching 50% of the -- Tony from
:27:12. > :27:21.ever reaching 50% of the newborn choughs in Wales. However, the
:27:21. > :27:25.results are starting to come in. It shows us different sorts of Wales
:27:25. > :27:32.can be purpb for different populations of choughs at different
:27:32. > :27:38.times during their life cycle. No good conserving a breeding habitat
:27:38. > :27:42.at Anglesey. At times they may need to go to Snowdonia. By being able
:27:42. > :27:48.to identify birds individually, you can show how they move around a lot.
:27:48. > :27:54.That helps designating sites for conservation of choughs. We also
:27:54. > :27:59.know once they get to the age of these fellas, these breeding once,
:28:00. > :28:03.they could be 17 or 18 years old. As always, the checks are returned
:28:03. > :28:13.safely to their nest in the hope they'll provide more information
:28:13. > :28:18.
:28:18. > :28:25.about this rare and charismatic species. Whoa, fantastic! Mike
:28:25. > :28:31.Dilger there. Well chuffed! Bad joke! Earlier we asked viewers to
:28:31. > :28:37.send us honours. I've got one. Christopher Love. Better than an
:28:37. > :28:43.MBE, I've three Blue Peter badges for services to his community. I've
:28:43. > :28:50.got one too. This was from Carl hobs. He was awarded an MBE for
:28:50. > :28:54.charity work. From aber veil in Wales. This from Jade Jennings. Her
:28:54. > :29:01.wonderful father sent from Scotland for the meat industry. Thank you