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:00:10. > :00:15.years ago, I was walking along this road when a stranger attacked me. My

:00:15. > :00:25.big decision that night was not to scream and to try and escape from

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:00:33. > :00:36.him, but to befriend him, and that with Matt Baker - And Alex Jones.

:00:36. > :00:39.Jessica will be telling her incredible story of

:00:39. > :00:42.self-preservation very shortly, and here to watch it with us is

:00:42. > :00:46.tonight's guest. He's gone from the nation's

:00:46. > :00:51.favourite Pop Idol to award-winning West End star - it's the lovely

:00:51. > :00:56.William. APPLAUSE

:00:56. > :01:00.Love you. That's the best reception I've ever had. Thank you. It's

:01:00. > :01:07.because you're such a friend of the show, so welcome back. I love your

:01:07. > :01:12.jumper. Listen, novelty jumpers - did you not get the memo? You don't

:01:12. > :01:17.know what pants I am wearing! I didn't realise it was just jumpers.

:01:17. > :01:21.Get them off! Get them off! Joking. Looking forward the hearing about

:01:21. > :01:25.your return to the classic musical Cabaret later on, but first,

:01:25. > :01:28.Jessica's story, which is part of our series on people who have to

:01:28. > :01:32.make incredibly big decisions in their life. It's one which forces

:01:32. > :01:37.all of us to wonder what we would do in a similar situation.

:01:37. > :01:42.Many of us wonder how we would react if we were ever attacked. In the

:01:42. > :01:45.summer of 2011, Jessica Price, who was then 21, was setting off home

:01:45. > :01:50.after an evening out with friends in Nottingham's city centre. What time

:01:50. > :01:53.was it when you started saying goodbye to your friends? It was

:01:54. > :01:57.already 3. 30am in the morning, and my friends decided to get in the

:01:57. > :02:00.taxi, but they weren't going very far, and I didn't have any money, so

:02:00. > :02:03.I thought I would just take a walk home. It was something I'd done

:02:03. > :02:07.before. I took all of the main streets. There were still people

:02:07. > :02:11.around in the centre of town. she walked further from the centre,

:02:11. > :02:15.the roads became quieter, and soon Jessica could see only one person in

:02:15. > :02:21.the distance behind her. Is so I thought they're so far away. I don't

:02:21. > :02:31.care. But very quickly the man was just a few feet behind her.

:02:31. > :02:36.About five seconds later he grabbed me around the neck. Jessica showed

:02:36. > :02:42.me where she dragged her to. That was the most terrifying part, when

:02:42. > :02:46.he got me behind the wall. I thought I am finished. If I don't work out a

:02:46. > :02:50.way out of this I don't know what'll become me. At this point she made

:02:50. > :02:53.the big decision to befriend her attacker. I wasn't going to scream

:02:53. > :02:57.or get away from him. I was just going to try to find a connection

:02:57. > :03:02.with him on a level he saw that he didn't need to carry on being like

:03:02. > :03:07.that with me, and I was going to find a way to convince him to let me

:03:07. > :03:12.go. I started to cry. He apologised know. Then he started to roll a

:03:12. > :03:16.cigarette. I thought I should start to make him relate to me more and

:03:16. > :03:22.make him feel comfortable and join many. Was there any point you just

:03:22. > :03:27.felt like screaming? I was pretty sure there was nobody in near enough

:03:27. > :03:30.distance to hear me anyway. When he calmed down, I suggested we walk

:03:30. > :03:34.home together because we were walking in the right directionen and

:03:34. > :03:38.just anything to get out of that area behind the wall. Her strategy

:03:38. > :03:42.worked so well, that looking back at CCTV footage, which was later used

:03:42. > :03:45.as evidence in court, she can be seen walking hand in hand with her

:03:45. > :03:50.attacker. Even at one point he was trying to

:03:50. > :03:56.kiss me. He said, "I thought you'd forgiven me." I said, "Of course. I

:03:56. > :04:02.just have to get home". What's it like looking back at this?

:04:02. > :04:07.It's really difficult. We look like a regular couple. She kept up the

:04:07. > :04:12.pretence, engiving him her phone number. Convinced he might get a

:04:12. > :04:17.date, he let her go. When I got further down the road and he wasn't

:04:17. > :04:22.following me, I started to freak out. Then I called my mum. She was

:04:22. > :04:29.very garbled, and I could only make out a couple of words, and the words

:04:29. > :04:35.that stick many my mind were, "Mum, hands around my neck". I was very

:04:35. > :04:37.concerned. It hit me how lucky I had been. She had no idea how luckily

:04:37. > :04:41.she'd been because when she contacted the police, she discovered

:04:41. > :04:45.there had been a similar attack nearby just four weeks earlier. That

:04:45. > :04:49.attack had resulted in the murder of Caroline Coin, a young mother of

:04:49. > :04:54.two. Jessica's evidence led to the breakthrough the police had been

:04:54. > :04:58.looking for to solve that murder. Yes, sirca had been very, very

:04:58. > :05:01.switched onto what happened to her, was able to convince this man to

:05:01. > :05:05.light a cigarette and throw it down into a particular area and then lead

:05:05. > :05:11.us directly to it, so we were able to get some DNA from that very

:05:11. > :05:16.quickly. The DNA matched up with Carl Powell, who was already on the

:05:16. > :05:19.police database, and someone the Caroline Coin murder team had an

:05:19. > :05:24.interest in. Jessica's evidence coupled with the similarities

:05:24. > :05:30.between the two cases led to him being found guilty of both attacks

:05:30. > :05:32.and sentenced to life in prison. Her evidence was critical in

:05:32. > :05:36.convicting Carl Powell of the murder. I think the message to women

:05:36. > :05:41.across the country is very simple - have a plan. Jessica Price was

:05:41. > :05:47.clever enough to talk her way out of a far more serious attack. In the

:05:47. > :05:50.end, it was how I acted really that saved my life on that night.

:05:50. > :05:55.Jessica was incredibly brave then, managed to keep her cool, didn't

:05:55. > :06:00.she? Do you have any idea how you'd react in that circumstance? Well,

:06:00. > :06:03.I'd like to think I would use, as Jessica did, my brain to very

:06:03. > :06:08.quickly assess what would be the best thing to do, but it's hard to

:06:08. > :06:12.tell if you haven't been in it. I mean, I'm sort of terrified by

:06:12. > :06:15.seeing that, but also in awe of her actions. It's something you don't

:06:15. > :06:18.ever think would ever happen to you, but when you see that, you think,

:06:18. > :06:22.right, what would I do if I was in that situation? We've got Hamish

:06:22. > :06:26.Brown here. He's a retired Scotland Yard inspector specialising in

:06:26. > :06:31.crimes against women. Obviously, you don't know how you are going to

:06:31. > :06:35.react there, Hamish, but have you got any worlds of advice for any

:06:35. > :06:40.women who could just bear it in mind if it did ever occur? Certainly.

:06:40. > :06:44.Jessica was very cool. There she did very well. I commend her. There are

:06:44. > :06:48.some simple things you can do when you go out - stay in a group if

:06:48. > :06:52.you're drinking together. Have a good time, by all means. If one of

:06:52. > :06:57.your friends has had one too many, look after them. Make sure someone

:06:57. > :07:01.takes them home. How about arranging a cab before you go out, not an

:07:01. > :07:05.unlicensed cab. Book one up. Maybe it's those independent ones that

:07:05. > :07:09.have looked after everybody else and they're on their way home. That's

:07:09. > :07:12.the tricky... That's right, and making your way home, perhaps

:07:12. > :07:19.walking with the traffic coming towards you, just be aware of what's

:07:19. > :07:24.going on around. If you've got your music on, you can't hear people

:07:24. > :07:28.coming up behind you, simple things to do, but act as a team. It's that

:07:28. > :07:32.simple question of do you go on your phone or do you not go on your

:07:32. > :07:38.phone? How have crime figures changed over the last couple of

:07:38. > :07:42.years? Have women- or anybody really - more at risk now? I am pleased the

:07:42. > :07:47.crime figures have gone down, but the street crime has gone up because

:07:47. > :07:50.of the mobile phones, consumer goods, laptops, that sort of thing.

:07:50. > :07:54.I think what's got to be said is over the last five years, women are

:07:54. > :07:58.not more likely to be attacked in street crime, so, you know, the -

:07:58. > :08:02.it's levelled out there, really, but be sensible about it. If you've got

:08:02. > :08:06.a computer, then put it in an old shopping bag, not in a designer bag.

:08:06. > :08:09.If you're using your mobile phone, don't advertise it to everyone in

:08:09. > :08:13.the middle of the street. Maybe stand to one side. If you're in a

:08:13. > :08:17.coffee shop, don't put it on the table and just leave it there, it

:08:17. > :08:20.could be snatched. Don't be frightened. Just be aware. Do you

:08:20. > :08:24.have daughters yourself? I have a son and daughter. What I would say

:08:24. > :08:29.to them is - and if they're watching, they'll a laugh at this.

:08:29. > :08:34.We used to have something at hole called the magic jar - for ice

:08:34. > :08:39.creams and stuff like that. But if they need a cab, the money is at

:08:39. > :08:47.home. I had emergency money in my shoe as a young lad, a rolled up

:08:47. > :08:51.fiver in there. How did you not spend it? It's emergency money.

:08:51. > :08:54.That's why. Thank you for your advice. There is more advice on our

:08:54. > :08:58.website. Taxi drivers are always boasting about the famous people

:08:58. > :09:01.they've had in the back of their cabs - but in Norway, you could find

:09:01. > :09:05.the most famous person in the country, the Prime Minister, in the

:09:05. > :09:10.driving seat. Can you believe it? Martell Maxwell has been to Glasgow

:09:10. > :09:13.to see if our own leader should be taking notes.

:09:13. > :09:17.The Norwegian Prime Minister recently became a taxi driver for a

:09:17. > :09:20.day to find out the views of his public, so we took to the streets of

:09:20. > :09:27.Glasgow to ask the people what our own Prime Minister could learn if he

:09:27. > :09:31.did their job for one day. If the Prime Minister were to do my

:09:31. > :09:34.job, he'd learn how to suss out people who had had a bit too much to

:09:34. > :09:37.drink. He'd learn how to live on a normal wage. Bill, if the Prime

:09:37. > :09:41.Minister was to do your job for one day, what would he learn about

:09:41. > :09:46.running the country? Well, I'm retired, so personally, I think I

:09:46. > :09:52.could think of no better job for David Cameron than this. The sooner,

:09:52. > :10:00.the better, I think. The business rates are having a negative effect

:10:00. > :10:04.on small businesses such as myself. Working class, living on minimum

:10:04. > :10:07.wage, just trying to make a living, get by. If the Prime Minister was to

:10:07. > :10:11.do your job for one day, what would he learn about running the country?

:10:11. > :10:15.I work in social housing and health for many years. He would learn of

:10:15. > :10:21.the impact of his welfare reform. I mean, the so-called bedroom tax, the

:10:21. > :10:25.impact it's having on people. would learn about how hard it is to

:10:25. > :10:31.deal with the general public, how hard it is to be on your feet all

:10:31. > :10:35.day. We give out advice all the time, and people give us advice all

:10:35. > :10:41.the time, and it's just - we have to listen, and if you don't listen to

:10:41. > :10:44.people, you know, what's life all about? Thanks to the people of

:10:44. > :10:48.Glasgow, and I'm sure some of those comments could be directed at other

:10:48. > :10:52.party leaders as well. Will, if we did the same thing and asked the

:10:52. > :10:57.cast of cab and what their reaction would be, what do you think they'd

:10:57. > :11:01.say? What, to...David Cameron? David Cameron driving around?

:11:01. > :11:07.I don't know what they'd say! My God. David Cameron could learn quite

:11:07. > :11:12.a bit, could he, from being in... see. If he was in Cabaret, he'd

:11:12. > :11:16.learn how to truly communicate with the audience. Cabaret is very

:11:16. > :11:20.political, so it would make sense. Cabaret - well, it's sort of lived

:11:20. > :11:25.for so long since the 1960s when it first came out. It's a very

:11:25. > :11:29.political story, and what you do through Cabaret is you couch what

:11:29. > :11:32.you're saying about society in very sort of friendly, comedic ways, but

:11:32. > :11:37.actually - there's a song called Money - how appropriate is that?

:11:37. > :11:41.There is. Is that why you love it so much? Because you were in it until

:11:41. > :11:46.January. You have had this break. You have gone back to it. Yeah, it

:11:46. > :11:49.started with the Olivier Awards because the show got nominated, got

:11:49. > :11:52.nominated and John Phillips, who is in it, a me and the company did a

:11:53. > :11:57.performance of it, and I just thought, this is so great. I just

:11:57. > :12:01.want to do it again. It finished quite early as well, so... You said,

:12:01. > :12:06.Cabaret was first performed on Broadway in 1966, then the film came

:12:06. > :12:11.out in 1973, didn't it, with Liza Minelli? What do you think makes it

:12:11. > :12:15.work today? Why is it relevant? Particularly because of that

:12:15. > :12:19.political stori... Think it's that? The thing is I think a great musical

:12:20. > :12:23.has to have a great story. There are different types of musicals. The

:12:23. > :12:27.writers of Cabaret - it does have this amazing story that's set in the

:12:27. > :12:32.1930s in n Germany as the Nazis were, you know, beginning to take

:12:32. > :12:35.over Germany, so there's this - all these multifaceted layers going on

:12:35. > :12:40.within the play. There's a love story. You know, and then also

:12:40. > :12:45.there's me in a giant fat suit singing about money. Which is the

:12:45. > :12:48.bet bit. What's not to love?We've got some brilliant shots of you

:12:48. > :12:58.here. To be honest with you, you haven't got that much on, but let's

:12:58. > :13:04.

:13:04. > :13:07.# Come here the music play # Take my hand!

:13:07. > :13:17.# Welcome # To Cabaret

:13:17. > :13:19.

:13:19. > :13:23.APPLAUSE There you go! Woo! I just love it.

:13:23. > :13:27.You know, the best thing is like - literally watching that, it just

:13:27. > :13:30.makes me so happy. There are not that many parts that you can do as

:13:30. > :13:35.an actor that are that freeing, you know? You could just do anything

:13:36. > :13:39.with him. How hard is it, then, not to try to replicate Joel Grey's

:13:39. > :13:43.performance because he obviously won an Oscar for it, for the film. Is it

:13:43. > :13:47.difficult to find your own take on the MC? It's funny, I was saying to

:13:47. > :13:50.one of my agents the other day that actually - because you can't live up

:13:51. > :13:54.to that kind of thing. You almost have to find your own way, because

:13:54. > :13:58.to replicate someone like Joel Grey - it's impossible. You know, so

:13:58. > :14:02.you've got to find your own way into it. Going back to it, then, will you

:14:02. > :14:07.feel more kind of liberated now or... That's a worrying thing, you

:14:07. > :14:10.know? That is a worrying thing, because he's so mental. I did say,

:14:10. > :14:15.you know - I started bringing up bits of fruit to the director. I was

:14:15. > :14:18.like, maybe he'd come on with some raspberries or something like that.

:14:18. > :14:22.My director is like, you've got to cut it now. You have had a lot of

:14:22. > :14:28.time to think about it because what have you been doing in your time

:14:28. > :14:32.off? Sabbatical! You know, I have become obsessed with my compost -

:14:32. > :14:36.didn't expect that, did you? Because I have been living in Cornwall. I

:14:36. > :14:42.have a place there. I have got right into gardening. We have to ask you

:14:42. > :14:45.as well, rumours are rife - you might be a busy boy soon - now that

:14:45. > :14:51.Jessica Price and Danny have left The Voice, you might fill one of

:14:51. > :14:56.their chairs. En they'd gone. Concentrate on the compost,

:14:56. > :15:02.honestly! That's a show in itself - Compost Idol. Would you do it?

:15:02. > :15:06.I do it? Come on, Will.They gave it to me once and they took it away!

:15:06. > :15:12.Stick to the compost, then. Give us a million quid. I'll think about it.

:15:12. > :15:17.That'll buy a lot of compost. Wimbledon on the 28th of August and

:15:17. > :15:22.then Cabaret goes all around the country. As a cyclist, we do know

:15:22. > :15:26.that you would welcome yesterday's announcement of �148 million of

:15:26. > :15:31.funding to improve cycle routes all across England. It's also music to

:15:31. > :15:41.the ears of the man who created the first cycle path in the UK nearly 40

:15:41. > :15:42.

:15:42. > :15:46.years ago. Ade Adepitan went to meet him. 50 years ago, quiet country

:15:46. > :15:51.stations and stopping trains were mostly ended and since then we have

:15:51. > :15:59.got used to trains as fast, intercity transport. Little lines

:15:59. > :16:03.like this one become more for tourists. Well, they were. But now

:16:03. > :16:08.our old railway tracks are part of a transport revolution and I am off to

:16:08. > :16:16.that meet the man who started it. This is the Bristol to Bath cycle

:16:16. > :16:22.path and it was John Grimshaw's dream. He turned a disused railway

:16:22. > :16:27.into a traffic free cycle path. It grew from this five section across

:16:27. > :16:34.Britain. Now the charity Sustrans runs a huge network of paths.

:16:34. > :16:41.far are you going? To the south of France! I hope you have got your

:16:41. > :16:47.passport! This started in 1977 when there was not one millimetre of

:16:47. > :16:52.cycling fruit in this area. We kindly got charity grant of �10,000,

:16:52. > :16:56.which was just enough to buy tonnes and tonnes of stone dust and rebuild

:16:56. > :17:01.the five miles in three months. We just backed the lorries and they

:17:01. > :17:06.would drop the dust off in little heaps and we would rake it. It was

:17:06. > :17:10.so well used from day one. I came to the conclusion that every town in

:17:10. > :17:16.the country needed a place where you could learn to cycle. This path was

:17:16. > :17:25.the catalyst for huge change in the country. Everyone of us has the

:17:25. > :17:29.opportunity of making a change. Everybody can cycle. There is

:17:29. > :17:33.amazing British invention in these tunnels. How great Victorian

:17:33. > :17:36.engineers made the gradients as shallow as possible. They are great

:17:36. > :17:46.for leisure and commuting and fruits like this can really open up the

:17:46. > :17:52.world for people with restricted mobility. Like Mike. I broke my back

:17:52. > :18:00.when I was 20, 41 years ago. It gives me space where I can be me, I

:18:00. > :18:04.am free, I can be moving. I can go fast or slow down. I started

:18:04. > :18:12.competing in sport because it gave me confidence and I felt if I was

:18:12. > :18:17.fit, I did not have to rely on anyone. You got confidence, I get

:18:17. > :18:23.calm. This beautiful corridor of greenery. With dark shades and light

:18:23. > :18:30.shades and the smells that come off these plants growing beside me.

:18:30. > :18:35.Today, 75% of us are within two miles of a Sustrans route. There are

:18:35. > :18:40.14,000 miles of tracks. One third of the network is free of traffic and

:18:40. > :18:45.90% of it is connected to it. How did the cycle network get so big

:18:45. > :18:55.without anyone noticing? John is the charity's regional manager for

:18:55. > :18:59.Bristol. This has grown into the busiest cycle path in the country.

:18:59. > :19:09.2.5 million trips a year. If they want on this path, where would they

:19:09. > :19:10.

:19:10. > :19:14.be? Clogging up the road network. 1995 was when Sustrans was first

:19:14. > :19:18.awarded �42 million from the National Lottery. The more we see

:19:18. > :19:23.cycling as a normal activity, the more people will be encouraged to

:19:23. > :19:29.take it up and the more relaxed we will be when we do it. Let the

:19:29. > :19:35.cyclists be free, let them run free! It may cost to buy your bike but

:19:35. > :19:40.cycling is good for you and cheap. How much money does it save? If I

:19:40. > :19:48.didn't cycle I would have to get them us, for pounds 50. �1000 a

:19:48. > :19:54.year. I would have to cycle on a really busy road or get the bus to

:19:54. > :19:59.work, which takes a very long time. Cycling is a clean and healthy form

:19:59. > :20:06.of transport and this path shows that one man's crazy idea can really

:20:06. > :20:11.make a difference. I love the idea of cycling

:20:11. > :20:17.underneath those tunnels. It was beautiful. It was so scenic and a

:20:17. > :20:23.lot of fun. What was announced yesterday, bring us up to date? Rail

:20:24. > :20:28.fares will go up a 4.1% so the government are keen to get people on

:20:28. > :20:34.their bikes. The government is spending �100 million of new money

:20:34. > :20:44.to improve safety for cyclists. The money will go to eight urban areas

:20:44. > :20:50.

:20:50. > :20:56.Also you can see the national parks as well. Is this enough to bring us

:20:56. > :21:02.up to speed to our European neighbours? It is not all milk and

:21:02. > :21:09.honey. In the Netherlands, they spent �20 per head on cycling

:21:09. > :21:14.compared to �2 over here, and the eight urban areas that have been

:21:14. > :21:18.signposted, that will be �10, but still only half the money of the

:21:18. > :21:24.Netherlands. You have a brand-new documentary on Channel four next

:21:24. > :21:29.week which takes you back to Nigeria. Yes, I went back to Nigeria

:21:29. > :21:33.for only the second time. There are only three countries left in the

:21:33. > :21:38.world where polio is endemic and I went back to find out what my life

:21:38. > :21:43.would have been like if my parents had not brought me back to the UK --

:21:43. > :21:50.brought me to the UK, and Nigeria is one of the richest countries in

:21:50. > :21:53.Africa yet the only one with polio. What is the main reason?

:21:53. > :21:59.combination of reasons, hard to reach areas, where vaccinations

:21:59. > :22:04.can't get to, villages they cannot reach. There is a nomadic tribe who

:22:04. > :22:10.moved back and forth across the border. There is miss trust for the

:22:10. > :22:19.vaccine. Also vaccine fatigue, where people have to come back three times

:22:19. > :22:25.and some people think, why do they keep coming back? You were telling

:22:25. > :22:35.us about a revelation, after filming the documentary. Do you mind sharing

:22:35. > :22:42.

:22:42. > :22:44.that? I spoke to my mum and asked her how come I never got vaccinated?

:22:44. > :22:47.What happened was you get three courses of injections before the age

:22:47. > :22:52.of five and I had two and after my second one, I contracted polio, so I

:22:52. > :22:57.was one injection away from not having polio. It was so close. Those

:22:57. > :23:03.are the things that life deals you. You mentioned how sport a few

:23:03. > :23:07.confidence and you saw a great example of that in Nigeria with a

:23:07. > :23:13.new sport, even for you? I met a group of boys who live under the

:23:13. > :23:22.bridge. They live under a motorway bridge and they all have polio and

:23:22. > :23:28.they have created this brand-new sport, para-soccer. The aim is to

:23:28. > :23:32.try to score a goal with their hands. It is a fantastic sport. They

:23:32. > :23:39.want to make it into a Paralympic sport. And with your involvement...

:23:39. > :23:44.? I would like to speak to the head of the International Paralympic

:23:44. > :23:49.committee and say, yet that's bought into the Paralympics, it will be

:23:49. > :23:52.Africa's gift to the world -- get that sport. Thanks, Ade. Ade

:23:52. > :23:59.Adepitan Journey of My Lifetime is on Channel four next Monday 19th

:23:59. > :24:06.August at 8pm. We have got a film just for you,

:24:06. > :24:09.because you are a keen bird-watcher. This on the big, greedy British bird

:24:09. > :24:15.that is causing anger amongst anglers.

:24:15. > :24:18.For centuries this has been a wildlife spectacle. Coastal cliffs

:24:18. > :24:25.thronging with noisy sea birds and one of the largest is the native

:24:25. > :24:28.cormorant. With their primitive looking wings, cormorants seem

:24:28. > :24:35.clumsy on land but don't be deceived because these birds are lethal in

:24:35. > :24:42.the water. Capable of travelling at 70 kilometres per hour to depths of

:24:42. > :24:46.40 metres, these birds are formidable predators of fish. The

:24:46. > :24:50.cormorant was perceived as a threat to fish stocks and these native

:24:50. > :24:56.birds were trapped and cold extensively across Europe. But

:24:56. > :25:01.tighter laws on culling has seen numbers recover. Today these

:25:01. > :25:08.voracious eaters are thriving in land and anglers are not happy.

:25:08. > :25:14.Cormorants are big fish eaters. average they eat a pound of fish a

:25:14. > :25:19.day and numbers have exploded from 2020 years ago to 30,000 now, and

:25:20. > :25:25.that equates to �3 million of fish every winter -- from 2000 over 20

:25:25. > :25:32.years ago. Use it to anglers who fished in the 1980s and they have

:25:32. > :25:38.never seen a cormorant inland, they were always a coastal bird. They eat

:25:38. > :25:42.so many fish. I have seen fishing clubs close down, fishermen do not

:25:42. > :25:46.come and fish and pay their subscriptions, but it is also a

:25:46. > :25:51.concern for the ecology of our rivers. They are eating fish that

:25:51. > :25:55.would otherwise be eaten by kingfishers and other birds, which

:25:55. > :26:00.do not have a sustainable food supply now. It is not fully

:26:00. > :26:03.understood what has attracted these sea birds to come in land but one

:26:03. > :26:11.possible draw is the better conservation of our lakes and

:26:11. > :26:20.rivers. In Somerset, birds from the newly created wetlands of these

:26:20. > :26:27.marshes of fire with fishermen 's for the right to hunt. --. We

:26:27. > :26:32.capture evidence that Britain's anglers are facing competition from

:26:32. > :26:36.the cormorants. Cormorants can eat fish up to half a metre in length

:26:36. > :26:42.because of their elastic 80 throats which expand, allowing them to

:26:42. > :26:47.swallow fish of up to half their body weight. Some anglers are

:26:47. > :26:53.calling for cormorants to be controlled under law, allowing an

:26:53. > :26:58.unlimited number to face culling, but not everyone agrees. Jeff Knott

:26:58. > :27:01.is the species policy officer of the RSVP to be. I met him in

:27:01. > :27:10.Cambridgeshire, home to one of the largest inland cormorant colonies in

:27:10. > :27:17.Britain. -- RSPB. Anglers claim cormorants are decimating fish.

:27:17. > :27:22.are native to the UK. Some fishermen do have a concern but there is no

:27:22. > :27:26.evidence for a national impact on fish stocks. Where there are

:27:26. > :27:30.particular areas that feel they have a particular problem, if they can

:27:30. > :27:36.present good evidence to show cormorants are having a particularly

:27:36. > :27:41.bad effect on their fish stocks, they can apply for a licence.

:27:41. > :27:44.debate will go on about the cormorants appetite for our fish

:27:44. > :27:50.stocks but there will always be plenty of people who come out to see

:27:50. > :27:54.this unusual bird. When you see them up close, they are not just black,

:27:54. > :27:58.they can look at deep chocolate brown and they have patches of

:27:58. > :28:04.white, and with the sunlight on them, they can look iridescent,

:28:04. > :28:09.green and blue. If they were not rare, people would not travel

:28:09. > :28:16.hundreds of miles to see them. at this, admitting that fish.

:28:16. > :28:25.Extraordinary! Get that down your neck! That is like me with a curry.

:28:25. > :28:30.What do you think? A friend of mine, who has says it is, to deter

:28:30. > :28:38.the buzzards he hangs old shiny CDs in the woods. He doesn't shoot them,

:28:38. > :28:42.he deters them. Before we go, you have got a little something.

:28:42. > :28:49.bashed into your wing mirror so I have bought you a car with wing

:28:49. > :28:53.mirrors. And on that note, we have to say good night. That is all we

:28:53. > :28:57.have time for. Cabaret is in Wimbledon on the 28th of August.