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:00:18. > :00:22.Hello and welcome to The One Show with Matt Baker. And Alex Jones.

:00:22. > :00:26.Our guest tonight was once the most famous choirboy in the country.

:00:26. > :00:36.we have asked some of the Trinity Boys' Choir to come in and help us

:00:36. > :00:40.

:00:40. > :00:45.introduce him. Who is it? Thank you so much for that! They

:00:45. > :00:53.are my personal quiet now. They follow me everywhere I go. We could

:00:54. > :00:58.do and Alex Jennings song as well - - and Alex Jones song. So you are

:00:58. > :01:04.here to talk about the 50th anniversary of Songs Of Praise. But

:01:04. > :01:08.you call it karaoke. In tis the world's largest karaoke, watched by

:01:08. > :01:12.30 million people worldwide. You get the words, and you can sing

:01:12. > :01:16.along. My grandparents call it Sunday karaoke. Most people have a

:01:16. > :01:19.go when they see the words. used to sing those hymns in

:01:19. > :01:25.assembly. Even if you are not Christian, you watch it and sing

:01:26. > :01:31.along. Are you a fan of karaoke? Are I have done it once on holiday

:01:31. > :01:35.when I was 19. And a girl came up to me and said, you have got a

:01:35. > :01:41.really good voice, he should be a professional. But you are not as

:01:41. > :01:46.good as Marti Pellow. As we have got Aled and the Trinity Boys'

:01:46. > :01:54.Choir here, we want to see pictures of you and your choir. So send us

:01:55. > :01:59.your choir photos. Make sure we know which one is using the picture.

:01:59. > :02:02.Many who suffer violence at the hands of their partners later

:02:02. > :02:06.discover that they have previously committed similar crimes. Anita

:02:06. > :02:09.Rani looks at a controversial proposal which could change that,

:02:09. > :02:13.and meet a policeman who says women should be able to ask police if

:02:13. > :02:16.they new boyfriend has a criminal record.

:02:16. > :02:21.I am not someone you would ever expect to be on the receiving end

:02:21. > :02:24.of domestic violence, and neither, probably, are you. But imagine for

:02:24. > :02:28.one second that you have met someone new and it is all going

:02:28. > :02:34.well, and then you start to have doubts. Are they being too intense,

:02:34. > :02:37.a bit controlling? Possibly even aggressive? When aspects of your

:02:37. > :02:42.new partner's behaviour begin to raise concern, should women have

:02:42. > :02:48.the right to know if they have a history of domestic abuse? This man

:02:48. > :02:53.believes they should. It would give the ladies of this country another

:02:53. > :02:57.layer of protection if they are informed that their partner has a

:02:57. > :03:01.history of violence. Michael Brown's daughter Claire was

:03:01. > :03:09.murdered by a man who had already assaulted five other women. Should

:03:09. > :03:11.she have been told about his history? To find out that he had

:03:11. > :03:16.already had three Moller station orders against three other ladies

:03:16. > :03:20.and had also done six months of breaking one of those orders and

:03:20. > :03:26.had followed one young lady from Manchester up to Newcastle after

:03:26. > :03:30.she had changed her name and appearance, he took the wind out

:03:30. > :03:33.and held this young lady at knifepoint for eight hours. He got

:03:33. > :03:43.three and a half years for that. You are not supposed to bury your

:03:43. > :03:44.

:03:44. > :03:48.children. It just left a hole. Still does. Michael wants to give

:03:48. > :03:53.the police the power to tell people that their new partner has a

:03:53. > :03:57.history of domestic abuse. Known as Clare's Law, it has received

:03:57. > :04:02.support from the most senior police officer responsible for combating

:04:02. > :04:05.domestic violence at a national level. There are two ways it would

:04:05. > :04:09.work. People can approach the police and say, I have a new

:04:09. > :04:13.partner or I am about to have a new partner. I am bringing somebody

:04:13. > :04:18.into my household. Is there anything I need to know that

:04:18. > :04:22.affects my safety? The other way is the right to know, where, from

:04:22. > :04:26.police data, we can tell that someone has a long history of

:04:27. > :04:30.abusing a number of partners. We should be in a position to consider

:04:30. > :04:35.disclosing that information to the next new partner. Could Clare's Law

:04:35. > :04:39.really work? Do we want the state knocking on our door, telling us

:04:39. > :04:43.what is what? There are problems in my relationship, shouldn't I be the

:04:43. > :04:48.one who works it out? If it gets violent, I could always leave.

:04:48. > :04:52.too long, we have been reacting to domestic abuse, hoping that some

:04:52. > :04:56.victim will come forward. I want to see a more proactive approach. I

:04:56. > :05:00.think Clare's Law could reduce the number of cases we have to deal

:05:00. > :05:05.with. In every case, there is the potential for homicide. So could

:05:05. > :05:09.Clare's Law help reduce homicide in this country? I think it could.

:05:09. > :05:16.Knowing something about the past of the perpetrator takes the guilt of

:05:16. > :05:20.the victim. It is not me that is at fault, it is him or her. Lucy Reid

:05:20. > :05:25.is a barrister who specialises in domestic violence cases. She is not

:05:25. > :05:29.convinced the Clare's Law is practical. There are many

:05:29. > :05:33.perpetrators of domestic violence who have managed to avoid having

:05:33. > :05:39.any convictions. So if a woman were to ask the police for a check on

:05:39. > :05:43.her partner, it could come up clear. But it might not mean she is safe.

:05:43. > :05:46.But what if I were in an abusive relationship, and then I found out

:05:46. > :05:53.that the guy had a history of violence and the police knew about

:05:53. > :05:57.it, but they didn't tell me? How would I feel? We did a lot of

:05:57. > :06:02.research. We found the 25,000 serial perpetrators of domestic

:06:02. > :06:06.abuse. We found one case where a guy had seven different apartments

:06:06. > :06:10.being abused by him over three years. So we think where we have

:06:11. > :06:14.information that is compelling, we should make that known to people.

:06:14. > :06:19.But Lucy Reid says it would take considerable police resources to

:06:19. > :06:24.keep tabs on all potential perpetrators. But the police to be

:06:24. > :06:28.able to seek out women and warn them of a potential risk, they need

:06:28. > :06:31.to firstly know where the perpetrator is in order to identify

:06:31. > :06:35.that he has formed a new relationship. Brian Moore says in

:06:35. > :06:42.his force, they have already started to do that. In my own force

:06:42. > :06:46.area, we had over 126 individuals who had assaulted multiple partners.

:06:46. > :06:51.A serial perpetrator will continue to offend against partners unless

:06:51. > :06:55.they are stopped. My force is trying to get ahead of the curve

:06:55. > :07:02.and work to try and track these people. Do we have the power to do

:07:02. > :07:07.this? No. That is why I want the law clarified. Had I known what he

:07:07. > :07:12.was capable of, I would have had her out in a heartbeat. If my

:07:12. > :07:19.daughter had known, she would have been away from there so fast, it

:07:19. > :07:23.would have made her eyes water. Anita is here. Chief Constable

:07:23. > :07:27.Brian Moore obviously supports the law. He wants to be able to give

:07:27. > :07:31.women the right to ask and the right to know. He also wants to

:07:31. > :07:35.give police the power to be able to warn women in advance when they are

:07:35. > :07:40.in relationships with serial domestic abusers, which would mean

:07:40. > :07:46.the police would be able to have the power to track these seriously

:07:46. > :07:52.violent abusers, which he says they are already doing in Wiltshire. He

:07:52. > :07:56.wants to make policing proactive rather than reactive. That is

:07:56. > :07:59.because he says women in these horrible relationships, it is

:07:59. > :08:03.difficult for them to come forward because they are vulnerable and

:08:03. > :08:07.feel trapped. There are lots of statistics to back up that it takes

:08:07. > :08:11.them a long time to come to the police. So he wants to provide an

:08:11. > :08:16.environment where the police can step in if they feel a woman is in

:08:16. > :08:21.danger of being abused severely. man obviously also affected by

:08:21. > :08:25.domestic violence. Would this law help them as well? Potentially. It

:08:25. > :08:35.is still in discussion. One in six men have suffered some form of

:08:35. > :08:40.domestic violence at some point in their lives. So we will say,

:08:40. > :08:45.depending what discussions come out of it.

:08:45. > :08:50.A Aled is here to celebrate the 50th anniversary of Songs Of Praise.

:08:50. > :08:54.Is that why I am here? Like all good things, it started in Wales.

:08:54. > :08:59.In 1961, the first ever programme came from the Tabernacle Welsh

:08:59. > :09:03.Baptist Gedge in Cardiff. Since then, it has grown into a TV

:09:03. > :09:08.institution. Gyles Brandreth takes a look at why it has lasted an

:09:08. > :09:12.amazing half-a-century. I have had a letter from BBC

:09:12. > :09:21.religious programmes, a chap called Tristan Campbell. He says he wants

:09:21. > :09:27.to film Songs Of Praise here at St Barnabas. Heaven preserve us!

:09:27. > :09:33.50 years old. 50 years of prayers. 50 years of hymns, and more hymns.

:09:33. > :09:39.Oh, yes, and even more hymns. And suspiciously full congregations.

:09:39. > :09:45.Its cameras have visited more than 1800 locations since 1961, from

:09:45. > :09:48.mighty cathedrals to a humble chapels. Hat shops will be

:09:48. > :09:52.eternally grateful. People would say that a switch on for the hymns,

:09:52. > :09:58.but what they remember most after the programme has finished are the

:09:58. > :10:01.people who speak so generously in between those hymns. So Arms Of

:10:01. > :10:06.Praise has opened its welcoming doors to many recognisable faces.

:10:06. > :10:12.Charlotte Church, Cliff Richard, Tom Jones, Dolly Parton. Dolly

:10:12. > :10:17.Parton? # Hello, God. If we are still on

:10:17. > :10:21.singing terms, can you help me? My mother told me never to wear

:10:21. > :10:25.anything I would not wear in church. That is why I have not stepped in

:10:25. > :10:32.church in 40 years! But no matter who performs on it, the values that

:10:32. > :10:38.have underpinned the show remain constant. On the fourth day of

:10:38. > :10:44.Alamein, they kept shelling us and shelling us and then suddenly, a

:10:44. > :10:54.shell blew a wind from his neck to his bottom. I had this man in my

:10:54. > :11:00.arms. God gave me the strength. After all these years, it still

:11:00. > :11:05.affects me. And it can always be relied on to capture the public

:11:06. > :11:11.mood in times of national tragedy. This morning, we woke to the tragic

:11:11. > :11:16.news of the death of Diana, Princess of Wales. We staged a live

:11:16. > :11:20.outside broadcast from St Paul's Cathedral that evening. During that

:11:20. > :11:25.programme, by Anna's body arrived in the plane. And someone very wise

:11:25. > :11:32.at the top of the BBC must have made the decision to stay with the

:11:32. > :11:36.music coming from St Paul's Cathedral during our programme.

:11:36. > :11:41.Songs Of Praise, there is a place for solemnity. And yes, there is a

:11:41. > :11:47.place for silliness, too. A lot of people who would not be seen dead

:11:47. > :11:50.talking to a priest will always come and talk to a parrot! You are

:11:50. > :11:56.dressed as a clown, but you are actually a real Reverend? And a

:11:56. > :12:01.real clown! A warm welcome, on a very cold day in winter. Over 200

:12:01. > :12:10.different presenters have fronted this show. None loomed larger than

:12:10. > :12:15.Sir Harry caecum. It is a place of barbed-wire and locked doors. These

:12:15. > :12:20.cells are home, not so sweet home, for every prisoner until his

:12:20. > :12:24.sentence is served. It has been in our homes over half a century, with

:12:24. > :12:28.an audience peaking at 11 million. To be honest, I have not watched

:12:28. > :12:34.every episode religiously. I am waiting for the box-set. For now,

:12:34. > :12:42.let's leave the last word to my favourite, Dame Thora Hird. Bye bye

:12:42. > :12:46.for now. And God bless you. Brilliant excerpts in that film.

:12:46. > :12:53.The new programme is celebrating the show's 50th anniversary. As

:12:53. > :12:57.soon as that music starts, it is Yorkshire pudding and my mum's mash.

:12:57. > :13:06.You have the Voice Of An Angel! me, it is a cup of tea and a piece

:13:06. > :13:12.of cake. For me, it is a job. saw you at a very young age in that

:13:12. > :13:16.film. Yes, I did not realise I had been involved with it for so long.

:13:16. > :13:23.I have been presenting it properly since 2000, but I did it a few

:13:23. > :13:26.times prior to that. You were telling us your first glass of wine

:13:26. > :13:32.was shaped -- shared with Harry? was a professional. When he stood

:13:32. > :13:35.up to do a piece to camera, he would have a special pair of

:13:35. > :13:45.trousers with no creases in them. I had my first glass of wine at about

:13:45. > :13:48.16 or 17 in Rome with Harry. What is your best memory? There have

:13:48. > :13:57.been so many. I really enjoyed the Remembrance programme I did from

:13:57. > :14:02.the Falklands, because I had never been there before. It was moving.

:14:02. > :14:07.It was minus 19, pretty cold. I did not build a snowman, before you say

:14:07. > :14:17.anything. They must be delighted to have such an incredible chorister,

:14:17. > :14:40.

:14:40. > :14:47.even if you are a bit forgetful at That is brilliant. They have first

:14:47. > :14:54.time Songs of Praise has ever been on Auntie's bloomers. A lovely

:14:54. > :14:59.leather jacket. The Church always looks really full with a massive

:14:59. > :15:03.congregation. Everyone has great hair. The is it because they are on

:15:03. > :15:07.the telly? I couldn't possibly comment. They are more full because

:15:07. > :15:13.of the TV but most members of the congregation are members of that

:15:13. > :15:17.church, but maybe they don't go every Sunday. The hairdresser it

:15:17. > :15:24.does well when Songs of Praise comes to town. Hazard put pressure

:15:24. > :15:29.on your faith at all? I don't go to church on a Sunday because I am on

:15:29. > :15:33.Radio 2. I don't think you have to go to church every week to be a

:15:33. > :15:38.Christian. You show me a perfect Christian and I will show you a

:15:38. > :15:48.liar. I have tried to live my life with Christian values, don't always

:15:48. > :15:52.succeed but I drive. There are loads of things going on. Yes,

:15:52. > :15:58.there is a service coming from Cardiff this Sunday, Pam Rhodes is

:15:58. > :16:02.presenting that. That is the music they had on that programme in 1961.

:16:02. > :16:09.The second want the following week is me looking back at 50 years of

:16:09. > :16:16.the best stories and music. Then an hour-long second on the 22nd from

:16:16. > :16:21.Alexandra Palace, with Catherine Jenkins, Beverley Knight, 7000

:16:21. > :16:30.people. It will be good. There will be another aunties bloomers for you

:16:30. > :16:40.to play in another few years probably! Back to the next

:16:40. > :17:02.

:17:02. > :17:06.generation of Alan -- young The English countryside is

:17:06. > :17:10.beautiful. Very green, very pleasant and wonderful place to

:17:10. > :17:14.spend some time, but when we are sauntering in the countryside there

:17:14. > :17:22.is something lurking in the background - the electricity pile

:17:22. > :17:27.on. Of course, they have always not been with us. Before the 1920s,

:17:27. > :17:35.electricity was a very local affair. Originally when we started using

:17:35. > :17:41.electricity there were local generators, but as are used to the

:17:41. > :17:45.-- our use of electricity increased, we needed for these. We needed

:17:45. > :17:51.something that was safe and structurally sound, something that

:17:51. > :17:56.would end your and it met that brief. It was designed in 1928 and

:17:56. > :18:02.I think it is run a successful. It is like Wade, strong. You can see

:18:02. > :18:06.this guy behind them because it is a lacy design. Pylons don't talk

:18:06. > :18:10.many popularity polls but they did bring power to the masses and that

:18:10. > :18:14.is what inspired some unlikely fans. They weren't in the large

:18:14. > :18:19.industrial cities, but here in the heart of intellectual English

:18:19. > :18:25.thinking. The University of Oxford. This library holds the papers of a

:18:25. > :18:30.group of poets who were partial to a pylon. Valentine Cunningham is

:18:31. > :18:35.Professor of English language and literature. Aren't poets usually

:18:35. > :18:40.interested in trees and fields? this lot, they were obsessed with

:18:40. > :18:50.modernity. They wanted to write about the modern world,

:18:50. > :18:50.

:18:50. > :18:59.industrialism and so on. They were particularly interested in

:18:59. > :19:09.industrial modernism. Perhaps this was the most famous poem of the

:19:09. > :19:18.

:19:18. > :19:23.1930s, called The Pylons. The pile on swerve a sign of a happy arrival

:19:23. > :19:28.of modernity. What comes across and holds up in a poem like that is

:19:28. > :19:33.this kind of genuine democratic, and it was of course socialist,

:19:33. > :19:37.feeling that her at last something was being done for ordinary people.

:19:37. > :19:42.Love it or hate it, the current design has been around for more

:19:42. > :19:46.than 70 years. There are thousands of them and their numbers are about

:19:46. > :19:51.to increase because we are aiming to reduce our reliance on fossil

:19:51. > :19:57.fuels. That means more electricity, but coming from different sources

:19:57. > :20:01.such as wind farms. They need new prions to carry the electricity.

:20:01. > :20:05.These could be radically different from the old ones if someone can

:20:05. > :20:12.come up with a better design in a competition for engineers,

:20:12. > :20:16.architects and students. In Iceland they had the most stunning designs,

:20:16. > :20:21.which was men striding across the landscape. Why change such a

:20:21. > :20:25.successful design? Because technology has changed, things have

:20:25. > :20:31.moved on over the years. There maybe new materials and more

:20:31. > :20:35.elegant designs. The best six designs will be on display in the

:20:35. > :20:39.Victoria and Albert Museum and the public will be invited to comment.

:20:39. > :20:43.It is a design classic which has stood the test of time, but if some

:20:43. > :20:52.bright spark comes up with a good idea the British landscape could

:20:52. > :20:59.change forever. Still in his pylon costume, it is

:20:59. > :21:03.filled. How do you feel to be our new pylon expert? Very proud.

:21:03. > :21:10.disaster be one of the weirdest competitions going. What happens

:21:10. > :21:15.next? The shortlisted designs are announced in the morning and will

:21:15. > :21:18.be displayed in the Victoria and Albert Museum with the winner

:21:18. > :21:24.announced in October. The winner will be considered by the National

:21:24. > :21:28.Grid, that is all. It is not definite. But they have got a

:21:28. > :21:35.chance, so good luck to them. other countries they have come up

:21:35. > :21:41.with some beauties. In Italy, this is in production. It is a beauty,

:21:41. > :21:49.nice clean lines. It is meant to be the shoot of a plant. This is in

:21:49. > :21:58.Norway, that was a one-off pylon. It might be dangerous, people

:21:58. > :22:07.walking into the mirror as they go along. The runner-up was a reindeer.

:22:07. > :22:13.We have had a go at designing our own, and you kind of went with the

:22:14. > :22:23.reindeer, didn't you. It looks like I have been copying, but I haven't.

:22:24. > :22:24.

:22:24. > :22:34.Would that be a real sheep? I went for... Predictable, disco balls on

:22:34. > :22:37.

:22:37. > :22:42.top. Add a bit of glamour to the roads. A singing pylon! And, as you

:22:42. > :22:47.say, very predictable. A cricket bat. Next you'll be saying there is

:22:47. > :22:52.a pylon appreciation Society. is a website you can go to and get

:22:52. > :23:00.pictures of them from all over the world, and another website which

:23:00. > :23:10.has a pylon of the month award. This one is in Oxfordshire. I can

:23:10. > :23:39.

:23:39. > :23:44.see why. On we go. Anyway, we need I am in Scotland hunting for a wild

:23:44. > :23:50.thing. She is a bit fruity because she looks like a strawberry. And

:23:50. > :23:57.she has got eight legs. On this estate in Scotland, lying just

:23:57. > :24:01.miles from the infamous Loch Ness, it is home to the strawberry spider.

:24:01. > :24:05.It is originally thought to be confined to south-east England,

:24:05. > :24:11.they were discovered north of the borders in the late 80s in small

:24:11. > :24:17.numbers. Thanks to this local spider enthusiast, an impressive

:24:17. > :24:22.population has recently been found. I have not seen all 640 British

:24:22. > :24:27.spider species but I would love to see the strawberry spider. How did

:24:27. > :24:33.you find your first one? He last summer, it happened to be a mail so

:24:33. > :24:41.not as spectacular as the female. By the time the summer was over, I

:24:41. > :24:46.had found 50. In this one area? but bear in mind they are all over

:24:46. > :24:51.the place. The spite being one of the brightest coloured spiders in

:24:51. > :24:57.the UK, they are masters of hiding themselves from us and their prey.

:24:57. > :25:06.They do this by using a simple virtually folded into a tent-like

:25:06. > :25:13.structure and suspended on a web. George, over here. I assume I have

:25:13. > :25:23.found you won, I am 95% confident. That is amazingly brightly coloured.

:25:23. > :25:25.

:25:25. > :25:30.We had found a male spider, which showed us we were in the right

:25:30. > :25:35.place. In the summer months, males actively search for the females who

:25:35. > :25:45.are safely tucked up inside their abode. It is not long before I hit

:25:45. > :25:49.

:25:49. > :25:56.the jackpot. Reveal all, please. She is quite big. Super. You are

:25:56. > :26:06.right, once you get your eye Ian for the home, the retreat, it is

:26:06. > :26:07.

:26:07. > :26:12.quite obvious. That looks like a strawberry, a very small strawberry.

:26:12. > :26:15.It is amazing to think that, if you were a spider in the open in the

:26:15. > :26:23.Highlands where it rains a lot, having little umbrella retreat is

:26:23. > :26:28.quite a good idea, isn't it? That is what you want. Some were dry.

:26:28. > :26:34.But their retreats have a second purpose as well. Being ambushed

:26:34. > :26:39.predators, the spiders can wait inside the leaf for unsuspecting

:26:39. > :26:43.insects to become entangled in their words. The strands of these

:26:43. > :26:49.words are super-strong and sticky, making them great for catching

:26:49. > :26:53.small insects. The trouble with spider webs is they can be very

:26:53. > :27:00.hard to see but if you fill a sock with cornflour, you simply give it

:27:00. > :27:05.a little pat and particles settle on the web making it easy to see

:27:05. > :27:09.and it does not hurt the spider at all. By following these spiders for

:27:09. > :27:16.the past year, Jane has a much better idea of exactly where to

:27:16. > :27:22.look for them. What does this spider require for its habitat?

:27:22. > :27:27.Where we are, just where we are. Large open spaces, clearings within

:27:27. > :27:37.the woodland. They particularly like this purple more grass which

:27:37. > :27:42.

:27:42. > :27:46.seems to add strength to their words. -- webs. As little is known

:27:46. > :27:51.about this spider's distribution, Jane is continuing her hunt and has

:27:52. > :27:55.already found two more locations in the Scottish Highlands. The Spider

:27:55. > :28:02.might be more common than we thought, we just haven't been

:28:02. > :28:06.looking in the right places. Thanks to you for all of your choir

:28:06. > :28:12.pictures you have been sending in. Gail Ritchie from the Glasgow

:28:12. > :28:19.Gospel Choir, there she is smiling away. Gospel and modern pop music.

:28:19. > :28:23.Card of style ladies barbershop chorus. This is Louise sitting on

:28:23. > :28:33.the floor and she is with the Peterhouse chapel choir from

:28:33. > :28:35.

:28:36. > :28:45.Cambridge. Dan White and his choir, the funky little choir. Thank you

:28:46. > :28:50.