:00:22. > :00:25.Hello, and welcome to the One Show with Matt Baker. And Alex Jones.
:00:25. > :00:28.Now tonight's guests have won 32 gold medals and performed before
:00:28. > :00:38.royalty and world leaders. We've promised them that over the next
:00:38. > :00:40.
:00:40. > :00:48.half hour, we won't mention the b- word. Stop it. I said no. After 28
:00:48. > :00:52.years they're sick of it. It's Torvill and Dean!
:00:52. > :00:56.APPLAUSE Lovely to see you both. We won't
:00:57. > :01:02.mention the b-word. Anything else you want us to avoid. We won't ask
:01:02. > :01:05.if you are a real couple or if you have a bungalow in Nottinghamshire.
:01:05. > :01:09.One thing we will mention is the new Dancing On Ice tour. We'll talk
:01:09. > :01:13.about that later on. A couple of weeks back, we brought you the
:01:13. > :01:18.story of Anna Pike who contacted us fearing the man she'd met and fall
:01:19. > :01:23.anyone love with online was a conartist. Anna handed over
:01:23. > :01:32.thousands to someone she thought was her dream man. This was the
:01:32. > :01:42.moment Anita revealed the scam. captain, the name doesn't exist.
:01:42. > :01:50.
:01:50. > :01:54.It certainly touched many of you at home. After Anna told us her story,
:01:54. > :01:59.others contacted us saying they had been coned by romantic scams but
:01:59. > :02:05.were too ashamed to mention it. Other victims are cooperating with
:02:05. > :02:12.the police. This is Derek's story. Blackpool, the home of Kiss Me
:02:12. > :02:17.Quick hats, roller coaster rides and ballroom dancing. It's also
:02:17. > :02:27.home to one man who found out the hard way that the course of true
:02:27. > :02:29.
:02:29. > :02:34.love rarely runs smooth. Derek is 66 and retired. Nearly two years
:02:34. > :02:38.ago, an advert in a contact magazine caught his eye. Living on
:02:38. > :02:43.my own, being on my own for four years, I was hoping to find
:02:43. > :02:47.somebody to start a relationship with. The woman of Derek's dreams,
:02:47. > :02:53.so he thought, was 30-year-old primary school teacher Irene. She
:02:53. > :02:56.wrote to him from her home in Ghana. For months they corresponded. She
:02:56. > :03:02.even sent him some alluring photographs. She said that she was
:03:02. > :03:06.sincere. She said she was looking for a relationship, even marriage.
:03:06. > :03:10.Soy thought, well if she means these things, she's somebody I'd
:03:10. > :03:16.like to meet. She promised to visit Blackpool and it was then the issue
:03:16. > :03:25.of money was mentioned. She said she would fly to Manchester at a
:03:25. > :03:29.cost of �600, if I would pay �300 of the fare. So I then sent her
:03:29. > :03:36.�300. I went to the airport and I waited for the flight to arrive
:03:36. > :03:39.from London, but she was not on it. So then I was distraught.
:03:39. > :03:44.demands for money just kept on coming and Derek received a phone
:03:44. > :03:48.call saying Irene had been in an accident. Why due sent another
:03:48. > :03:54.�200? I felt responsible for the accident in that she'd been
:03:54. > :03:57.travelling in order to come and see me. And after that, Derek sent even
:03:57. > :04:03.more money. She said this time she was on the way to Blackpool. He
:04:03. > :04:08.waited at the train station, but she never turned up. Unfortunately
:04:08. > :04:11.for Derek, his dreams were about to be shattered. The Serious Organised
:04:11. > :04:14.Crime Agency had been looking into scams from Ghana when they came
:04:14. > :04:24.across his name. They made contact with Derek to tell him it had all
:04:24. > :04:25.
:04:25. > :04:31.been a con. I was distraught because of what had been lost. And
:04:31. > :04:34.that I'd be fool enough to be taken in. I wanted to -- believe it. Here
:04:34. > :04:38.was somebody who might change my life. Derek is one of several
:04:38. > :04:43.victims scammed by the same group. It's possible the photos of Irene
:04:43. > :04:47.were of someone completely unaware of the scam. In Derek's case we're
:04:47. > :04:51.sure there was no woman ever in existence writing to him. All of
:04:51. > :04:57.the communication has been with a man. They will have paid a member
:04:57. > :05:01.of their gang to speak to him. men than ever are coming forward as
:05:01. > :05:09.victims of dating scams. But the Serious Organised Crime Agency
:05:09. > :05:14.believes it's just the tip of the iceberg. For men, it's a bit of a
:05:14. > :05:18.reputational thing. It's embarrassment factor. The, you have
:05:18. > :05:22.to tell your family. I just get the impression from all of the victims
:05:22. > :05:27.we speak to this is much more difficult for men to come to terms
:05:27. > :05:30.with. Most certainly criminals rely on the fact that men are much less
:05:30. > :05:33.likely to report or go to the police. Once they've got a man
:05:33. > :05:37.they're talking to, that's an intensive one to one. He's not
:05:37. > :05:44.going want to talk about this too much to anybody else. They rely on
:05:44. > :05:51.that and make use of it. Derek has lost �800, but he's also
:05:51. > :05:59.heartbroken. They're playing on your emotions, seeing how far you
:05:59. > :06:04.can be tested and how far you're prepared to go. It's really cruel.
:06:04. > :06:07.It's so tragic. Some people just don't realise that they're being
:06:07. > :06:11.scammed. Anita is here. We heard that more men are coming forward
:06:11. > :06:16.more than ever before. As far as the stats are concerned, are more
:06:16. > :06:20.men coned than women or is it similar? The Home Office had 369
:06:20. > :06:26.reports of dating fraud in the last six months. Of those 332 revealed
:06:26. > :06:30.their gender. Of those 69% were women and 31% men. The University
:06:31. > :06:36.of Leicester have done a lot of research into online dating scams.
:06:36. > :06:40.They found there is no classic victim. It can be anybody, any
:06:40. > :06:44.demographic, class, gender, age. They target specific types of
:06:44. > :06:48.people. They know what people are looking forlet men tend to go for
:06:48. > :06:51.younger women and women want somebody who they feel can be a
:06:51. > :06:55.provider. That's the skill of them I guess, keying into what that
:06:55. > :06:59.person wants. It is terrible what's happened to Ann and Derek, but it's
:06:59. > :07:03.not all doom and gloom. Some people are very happy. A friend of yours
:07:03. > :07:07.has met a partner on the internet. Yes, it was quite a few years ago
:07:07. > :07:10.now. It was probably when it first started. They are still together.
:07:10. > :07:17.They vai child. They've been married for years and all very
:07:17. > :07:21.happy. It can work out. Same as my sister. And another example. Yes,
:07:21. > :07:24.we have. Please welcome Roland and Cindy. Come on in.
:07:24. > :07:29.Come on in, you guys. APPLAUSE
:07:30. > :07:33.Lovely to see you. Sit yourself down. It will be nice and cosy up
:07:33. > :07:40.there. So yes, how long ago did you meet, what's the story and how long
:07:40. > :07:45.did you meet after you met online? Nearly three years ago we met. We
:07:46. > :07:50.chatted online for about four weeks. And I have forgotten the next
:07:50. > :07:55.question. Did you meet soon after? Yes after the four weeks, yes.
:07:56. > :08:00.That's the key. People chat on the internet but you need to meet face
:08:00. > :08:04.to face. Set the scene now what happened on the first date, where
:08:04. > :08:12.you nervous, where did you meet, what did you do? I was nervous,
:08:12. > :08:16.very nervous. We met in a pub. Then we went for a Chinese meal. We had
:08:16. > :08:20.a fantastic night. Did you go for the banquet, were you there for
:08:20. > :08:28.ages? Ti, was a matter of trying to find out and getting to know each
:08:28. > :08:31.other a lot better. The first few dates were seeing how we got on
:08:31. > :08:35.with each other, finding out whether we were honest with each
:08:35. > :08:42.other, which we found we were, genuine. You look great together,
:08:42. > :08:46.you really do. Were you aware of scammed out there? Very much so.
:08:46. > :08:52.I'd seen one or two sites and had a look through and I went for an
:08:52. > :09:00.older site that was sort of like over 50 for single people. And we
:09:00. > :09:04.found each other on this site. And by the third date, I think it was,
:09:04. > :09:08.we really found that we were, and that, it took just a little bit to
:09:09. > :09:12.find out about each other, but by the third date, we had gelled.
:09:12. > :09:19.knew Cindy was the one. Now you're married. It was a happy ending.
:09:19. > :09:24.APPLAUSE Yes, come on. Let's hear it! Tell
:09:24. > :09:32.everybody how Roland proposed. text. I love it. Come on. In the
:09:32. > :09:40.same room. In the same room, we'd been, we had met in 2009 in May.
:09:40. > :09:44.May 16, 2009 was the first time we met after say a month. Then by New
:09:44. > :09:50.Year's Day 2011 we were just after midnight, we were all partying and
:09:50. > :09:57.I sent a text to her. Don't try and dig yourself out. Due text back an
:09:57. > :10:00.answer? No, I didn't. The question is how do we top Roland and Cindy's
:10:00. > :10:03.romantic tale? Lucy Siegle has a good yarn about an underground
:10:03. > :10:06.movement that's knitting communities together across the
:10:06. > :10:11.nation. I'm on a mission to meet some
:10:11. > :10:15.members of a close knitted fraternity. Many of whom keep their
:10:15. > :10:20.identity secret and work in the dead of night. Hello? Hello Lucy.
:10:20. > :10:28.Follow the yarn. Follow the yarn? I'm on the trail of knitters who
:10:28. > :10:32.strike when you least expect it. I've been yarn boxing, urban
:10:32. > :10:37.knitting, call it what you will. Knitting needles are claking up and
:10:37. > :10:43.down the country right now. The city collective. I believe you're
:10:43. > :10:48.responsible for this? No, we're not. We started yarn storming in 2009.
:10:48. > :10:51.Rather than just doing a cosy we started to add a bit of history and
:10:51. > :10:57.characters and craziness and our sense of humour to our stuff.
:10:57. > :11:02.is the weirdest thing that you have made? An eight-metre giant squid
:11:02. > :11:06.out of carrier bags, so 160 Sainsbury's bags and I made a squid.
:11:06. > :11:12.Some people would say this is just graffiti really. The stuff we make
:11:12. > :11:17.tends to be so cute that people steal it. It doesn't become a
:11:17. > :11:23.litter problem. It doesn't stay up for long. And it's quite popular.
:11:23. > :11:28.Yarn bombing has exploded. Recent knit hits include work by the
:11:28. > :11:34.graffiti grannies, who creep around Cornwall using knit ware to keep
:11:34. > :11:40.their identity secret. On the north-east coast 150-metre of
:11:40. > :11:44.knitted Olympic figures has appeared on the town's peer. Lots
:11:44. > :11:50.of smaller knits have been popping up all over the country. I've come
:11:50. > :11:59.to Hampshire to meet a group known as the knitting naer do wells. You
:11:59. > :12:04.know I've got a hunch, this could be the place.
:12:04. > :12:08.Do you get an adrenaline rush through yarn bombing? Most
:12:08. > :12:13.definitely. You go out in the cloak of darkness. It's exciting to get
:12:13. > :12:17.your piece up, to see your public area transformed visually. Have you
:12:17. > :12:22.ever been arrested? A few weeks ago when we did a hit of the town
:12:22. > :12:26.centre, the police did come around. It was about midnight when we were
:12:26. > :12:31.just businessing yarn bombing. They saw us and reversed. But they were
:12:31. > :12:36.impressed. They let us carry on. You're not expecting for any
:12:36. > :12:44.trouble tonight? You think it will go smoothly? We are quite good at
:12:44. > :12:49.running. We're prepared to do that if we have to.
:12:49. > :12:58.I'm feeling the adrenaline coursing through my veins. Our target is
:12:58. > :13:04.just through there. Go! They're quite keen, I think.
:13:04. > :13:08.What is that? This is my special cutting pendant. That's pretty
:13:08. > :13:12.impressive. If people saw you up there, they might say you were
:13:12. > :13:16.hooligans if you didn't have balls of wool in your hand. They can
:13:16. > :13:20.always cut it down if they don't like it. How do you think it went?
:13:20. > :13:27.Fantastic. I think it's amazing. You've basically created a sort of
:13:27. > :13:35.work of art. It's fantastic. They've gone under the cloak of
:13:36. > :13:38.darkness, the yarn bombers came and they evaporated. Ve mysterious! --
:13:38. > :13:46.very mysterious. They may have disappeared but their work remains,
:13:46. > :13:49.at least for now. A very big thank you to them for
:13:49. > :13:54.yarn bombing our studio and they've dais peered without a trace. I
:13:54. > :13:58.understand that's crocheted though. It's lovely. We should leave there
:13:58. > :14:06.all the time. You two spend a lot of time in cold conditions, could
:14:06. > :14:11.you do with a bit of yarn storm sning Yarn bomb? Absolutely.
:14:11. > :14:17.mother used to yarn storm me when I was like aye four-year-old. She
:14:17. > :14:22.would put me in twin suit, shorts and tops, matching. Did she ever
:14:22. > :14:29.actually knit you outfits for skating in? Not yet. We had a
:14:29. > :14:34.jumper once. She made us matching sweaters once. We have these here.
:14:34. > :14:39.Aren't they beautiful. They're in the b outfits. We can't say that.
:14:40. > :14:46.There we go. Are they for us or do they have to go somewhere. They are
:14:47. > :14:51.for you. They're very G the rolling stones have announced that they're
:14:51. > :14:57.doing a 50th anniversary tour. Can you still see you two skating in
:14:57. > :15:01.your sequins in your 70s? I'm not sure about that. No. They'd have to
:15:02. > :15:07.be age appropriate routines I think. I came to see you and I'm really
:15:07. > :15:12.taken, as I'm sure a lot of the audience are, by, no disrespect,
:15:12. > :15:15.but how amazing you are, you're still Olympic level. It's
:15:15. > :15:22.extraordinary. Thank you very much. If you keep in shape and keep on
:15:22. > :15:26.top of it, you can continue to do it at a certain level longer.
:15:26. > :15:33.think being in the ice rink it preserves you. Does it? When was
:15:33. > :15:37.the last time you fell over on the ice? We were trying to think about
:15:37. > :15:40.that... We try not to fall over. do in training. We're always trying
:15:41. > :15:44.new things. Are you showing a picture of us falling over?
:15:44. > :15:47.we're not. With the tour then, there's the semi-final on Sunday
:15:47. > :15:50.and straight after the final you're on tour. Yes with the finalists.
:15:50. > :15:53.What can people expect? Are you skating a lot in it. You're hosting
:15:53. > :15:58.it as well this time. It's a difference for us this year. We're
:15:58. > :16:02.hosting it as well. That first part of the opening part of the show
:16:02. > :16:07.that we're very integral with that and getting people on and off the
:16:07. > :16:10.ice. We're performing as well, several routines as are our
:16:10. > :16:14.professionals and our celebrities. They're judged each night like a
:16:14. > :16:18.competition as well. In front of thousands of people as well. It
:16:18. > :16:23.must give you that buzz again. a bit of a hair let down for the
:16:23. > :16:27.celebs going on tour. Each week, you know this, it builds up and you
:16:27. > :16:31.get to that pitch and now they're going out and enjoying it more and
:16:31. > :16:34.doing one routine. So they get to practice it and get better and
:16:34. > :16:39.better. It's been pretty full on this series, there's been a few
:16:39. > :16:45.accidents. There has. With Jennifer Ellison. The ones you read about.
:16:45. > :16:50.Oh! That skate in the back of the head. Oh, my word. We did warn her
:16:50. > :16:55.in training that be careful. She's so loose, she has long legs. You
:16:55. > :16:59.careful you don't overdo it. Of course she did. On the night,
:16:59. > :17:04.adrenaline kicked in. Is it true you have asked them to tone down or
:17:04. > :17:08.make the routines safer for the semi-finals? No. No. We are always
:17:08. > :17:11.very conscious. No, whatever you do keep going. Once they've got the
:17:11. > :17:17.bit between the teeth they want to push themselves as well. It's all
:17:17. > :17:21.about bigger and better. This weekend, don't be surprised if you
:17:21. > :17:25.see a few head bangers out there. That's the one where you go like
:17:25. > :17:30.that. That looks nasty. Would you have a go at that? I probably would
:17:30. > :17:35.have a go. You just have to put your trust in your partner. Come
:17:35. > :17:39.one day and we should test it out. I'm not safe on my feet let alone
:17:39. > :17:44.on skates. Is it all the blokes that do it, obviously the girls
:17:44. > :17:47.remain tight. If the girls doing the take off as well and landing,
:17:47. > :17:50.that's tricky. If the boy's doing it, they have to have the stability
:17:51. > :17:55.and the strength and the coordination to be able to do it.
:17:55. > :17:58.It has the potential to be disastrous. Indeed. After winning
:17:58. > :18:03.Olympic gold, you were massive across the world, but especially in
:18:03. > :18:10.Australia, they loved you. So much they convinced you to record an
:18:10. > :18:18.album. OK, this is when we leave. Wait a minute. We didn't know about
:18:18. > :18:24.Wait a minute. We didn't know about this. Do you remember this?
:18:24. > :18:28.# I love coffee # I love tea... #
:18:29. > :18:34.It's sort of like the Kylie and Jason of Australia. They tried that.
:18:34. > :18:41.But it didn't work. Why just Australia? The question has to be
:18:41. > :18:48.asked, why not here? Or was it released over here? No. It didn't
:18:48. > :18:54.travel well. You can buy it on iTunes though. Yes. He had a bad
:18:54. > :18:57.accident and he broke his ankle. We had months of recovery. One of our
:18:57. > :19:04.producers suggested oh, why don't you make an album because you can't
:19:04. > :19:10.skate for a period of time. Chris was keen. So we went for serious
:19:10. > :19:16.singing lessons. I had my leg in plaster. He was so bored. He was
:19:16. > :19:24.into it more than I was. It's well worth a listen. It really is.
:19:24. > :19:29.classic. Maybe we'll be trending. They may have won gold with that
:19:29. > :19:35.routine we promised not to mention. We reckon this fella could be
:19:35. > :19:39.striking gold in Russia in 2014. He's been yarned as well. She has!
:19:39. > :19:43.Little ratatouille is an internet sensation after being filmed
:19:43. > :19:49.snowboarding in pencele vain ya. You need this guy on your tour.
:19:49. > :19:52.think it would be interesting, if he could get skates on. I love that
:19:52. > :19:58.jumper. It's worth a try. To follow that another ice loving creature
:19:58. > :20:02.with equally happy feet. In the past, many zoos kept animals
:20:02. > :20:06.not just for conservation but for the entertainment of the paying
:20:06. > :20:11.public. I think I'll just have a bit of a drink before we go off on
:20:11. > :20:17.a walk now. Penguins were a popular comic spectacle and the main
:20:17. > :20:21.purpose of an enclosure was to show them off. The modernist
:20:21. > :20:24.architecture of the penguin pool of London zoo has a stark beauty. But
:20:24. > :20:29.some of the penguins have problems breeding here and many chicks had
:20:29. > :20:31.to be hand reared. When the penguins were moved to temporary
:20:31. > :20:36.accommodation, more natural surroundings saw the birds
:20:36. > :20:40.successfully rearing their own chicks. Today, as the emphasis has
:20:40. > :20:42.firmly shifted to the conservation of species, zoos strife to make
:20:42. > :20:48.their enclosures as real to life as their enclosures as real to life as
:20:48. > :20:52.possible. In the wild, different penguin species thrive in different
:20:52. > :20:56.environments. One might prefer exposed rocks in the subAntarctic
:20:56. > :21:00.Ocean. Another might prefer warm, sunny beaches. Accommodating two
:21:00. > :21:08.species as different as this, side by side, in a single enclosure is a
:21:08. > :21:15.real challenge. Here in Torquay on the English Riviera, one zoo has
:21:15. > :21:20.come pretty close. Keeper Dan Bentley explains how
:21:20. > :21:25.this was achieved for the African and macaroni penguins living here.
:21:25. > :21:30.We've got a three metre pool. It's all sea water pumped in from the
:21:31. > :21:35.bay. We have burrows which they like to go in and lay their eggs.
:21:36. > :21:41.The macaroni, in the wild, they're a subAntarctic species. We have
:21:41. > :21:46.given it fans which emitt a sea spray, a cooling down on nice hot
:21:47. > :21:50.days like today. It's to make their life as nrl as possible. This
:21:50. > :21:54.attempt to reproduce key elements of their natural environment means
:21:54. > :21:59.penguins are breeding successfully here. Good news when one species is
:21:59. > :22:04.classified as vulnerable and the other endangered. I've placed this
:22:04. > :22:09.infrared camera into the nest of an African penguin pair that has just
:22:09. > :22:11.laid eggs. If they're successful, we'll see the newly hatched chick.
:22:11. > :22:21.The package on here will record everything that happens in the
:22:21. > :22:24.burrow. So now all we have to do is... Erm... Wait.
:22:24. > :22:29.The macaronis hatched their chicks a few months ago. I want to see how
:22:29. > :22:33.they're getting on. The next challenge is keeping them all fed.
:22:33. > :22:38.In the wild, penguins can make round trips of up to 150 kilometres
:22:38. > :22:45.to find food for their chicks. They also dive to depths of up to 100
:22:45. > :22:49.metres. Obviously they can't exactly recreate that here. Instead
:22:49. > :22:54.they go for the next best thing, hand feeding the penguins from
:22:54. > :22:59.under water. To get the penguin perspective I have this underwater
:22:59. > :23:03.camera. Anyone for breakfast? Penguins can stay under water for
:23:03. > :23:10.up to three minutes at a time, using their webbed feet and tail as
:23:10. > :23:14.a rud er and wings as flippers. They're fast too, swimming up to 14
:23:14. > :23:19.kilometres an hour. When they're full of fish, they head back to
:23:19. > :23:23.their nest and regurgitate it back into the chibgdz' mouths. So the
:23:23. > :23:31.MacRhoneies are bringing up their young, but what about those African
:23:31. > :23:35.penguins? Both the mother and father sit on their egg for 40 days,
:23:35. > :23:44.father sit on their egg for 40 days, until it finally hatches. And there
:23:44. > :23:50.it is! This new chick only weighs about 70 grams now. But after just
:23:50. > :23:58.ten days, that weight has more than doubled. And after a couple of
:23:58. > :24:02.weeks, it takes its first steps, blinking into the sunlight. This is
:24:02. > :24:05.the latest addition to the 18 penguin chicks hatched over the
:24:05. > :24:08.last year, hopefully in years to come, this one will be having
:24:08. > :24:14.come, this one will be having chicks of its own.
:24:14. > :24:18.Aahhhh. I was at the Saturday at the weekend and the kids couldn't
:24:18. > :24:22.get enough of the penguins. One thing affecting people at the
:24:22. > :24:28.moment is transport poverty. Simon Boazman went to Carmarthenshire to
:24:28. > :24:31.see how it's hitting them hard. There are few more picturesque land
:24:31. > :24:34.escapes than rural South Wales on the edge of the Brecon Beacons.
:24:34. > :24:40.When you look around here you can understand why people enjoy living
:24:40. > :24:43.in the countryside. But it comes with an unavoidable and for some,
:24:43. > :24:47.unaffordable additional cost and that's simply, the price of getting
:24:47. > :24:50.about. The cost of running a car is so
:24:50. > :24:54.expensive here that Paul and his family have taken to cycling
:24:54. > :25:00.whenever they can. That means popping out for a bottle of milk
:25:00. > :25:05.takes on a whole new meaning. How close is the local supermarket to
:25:05. > :25:08.you? It's an 11 mile round trip to the main supermarket. Is that
:25:08. > :25:13.practical on the bike all the time? It can be done. It's hard work
:25:13. > :25:18.sometimes. In the winter, when it gets dark early, it's very
:25:18. > :25:23.unpleasant sometimes as well. there public transport to get the
:25:23. > :25:28.kids to and from there? No, there's a bus on Wednesdays and Saturdays.
:25:28. > :25:33.That's it? That's the bus service. Hospital appointments is about 30
:25:33. > :25:37.miles each way. You can't do it on public transport. Forced to use the
:25:37. > :25:44.car, Paul's family spend over 10% of income on travel, with nearly
:25:44. > :25:48.�50 a week on diesel. That's up almost 12% from last year. While no
:25:48. > :25:51.official definition exists, some charities means this means Paul's
:25:51. > :25:55.family is what they call transport poverty. For Paul that means being
:25:55. > :25:59.forced to cut back on other costs like the weekly shop. How does
:25:59. > :26:04.spending so much of your income on fuel affect some of the practical
:26:04. > :26:10.decisions you have to make? children love purple grapes and we
:26:10. > :26:15.often can't afford them because they're �5.50 a kilo. Or they like
:26:15. > :26:19.pink lady apples but they're twice the price of coxs apples. When you
:26:19. > :26:24.put �25 worth of fuel in, I know it will be funnished by the end of the
:26:24. > :26:28.week just to get to work, not including doing the nicer things in
:26:28. > :26:33.life. Most of us can sympathise. The average cost of keeping a car
:26:33. > :26:37.on the road is �6,000 a year. With research going the cost of diesel
:26:37. > :26:42.is 4p a litre more in rural areas, the Government are piloting a
:26:42. > :26:48.scheme that gives motorists in the most rural places a 5p fuel
:26:48. > :26:52.discount. The charity believes people feel forced to run cars.
:26:52. > :26:56.When you talk about transport poverty what do you mean? We are
:26:56. > :27:01.all familiar of being in fuel poverty. If you spend 10% of your
:27:01. > :27:04.household income on heating your home you're in fuel poverty. The
:27:04. > :27:08.poorest 20% of the popular are spending more than 25% of their
:27:08. > :27:13.income on running a car. It's schemes like this down the road,
:27:13. > :27:16.that they want to see more of, to help save money and the environment,
:27:16. > :27:21.the village have got together to form a car club, where residents
:27:21. > :27:27.can hire a car to use as and when they need it. Any car club, if
:27:27. > :27:31.you're using a shared car, you give up your own car, it saves costs
:27:31. > :27:36.enormously. A lot of the running costs of the car are about the tax,
:27:36. > :27:39.insurance and if you're sharing all of that, the cost of running a car
:27:39. > :27:43.reduces dramatically. For residents like Hillary Williams, car club
:27:43. > :27:48.means she can get about and save money. What kind of journeys do you
:27:48. > :27:51.use the car for? Things like going shopping, doctors appointments,
:27:51. > :27:57.dentist, things like that. Is it saving you money, do you think?
:27:57. > :28:04.definitely. We don't have to pay the road tax on a second car, which
:28:04. > :28:08.we've given up. The amount amount we pay per mile with the car club,
:28:08. > :28:11.works out at less than we pay for petrol. Car clubs seem a good idea,
:28:11. > :28:16.but I'm not convinced they can replace the convenience of having
:28:16. > :28:21.your own car, especially in a rural area. So like many families across
:28:21. > :28:24.the UK, the Smiths believe they have no choice but to keep the car
:28:24. > :28:28.running. It is beautiful around here Paul. Is that extra fuel cost
:28:28. > :28:32.the price you pay for living in a place like this? It's a price you
:28:32. > :28:37.have to pay to live here. There is no public transport that's viable.
:28:37. > :28:40.You have to pay. Talking of transport, moving the
:28:40. > :28:49.Dancing On Ice tour, that's a big deal. How do you do that? Irk it's
:28:49. > :28:55.a big operation. There's a little man with ice cubes... No it's just
:28:55. > :28:59.pipes, you pray water on it and it freezes. Sounds simple. Like a big
:28:59. > :29:04.dish, about that thick though. luck with it any way. Thank you
:29:04. > :29:08.both for coming in. The live tour starts in Newcastle on April 13th.