:00:24. > :00:36.Go! OK, we are going. Now you have got our attention, this is the one
:00:37. > :00:42.show with Matt Baker and Angellica Bell. That was our first look at
:00:43. > :00:47.Dawn Of The Planet Of The Apes. But whatever he says, don't go because
:00:48. > :00:54.Caesar is in the building himself. It is Andy Serkis.
:00:55. > :00:59.CHEERING Good to see you thought about
:01:00. > :01:05.comeback. Are you all right? You must be in fantastic spirits today
:01:06. > :01:11.because $73 million at the weekend. That's a lot of tickets, isn't it?
:01:12. > :01:16.That's not bad. What was that phone call like? Thrilling, I'm excited.
:01:17. > :01:21.I'm excited for the director. He's done a brilliant job on this film.
:01:22. > :01:24.He did this and took the story and dropped it in exactly the right
:01:25. > :01:28.place and I think he has made a great movie. It's absolutely
:01:29. > :01:32.fantastic for that we saw you playing Caesar at the start of the
:01:33. > :01:37.programme. Where did you get the inspiration for the voice? It is
:01:38. > :01:43.deep and menacing. Your voice for Gollum was famously based on your
:01:44. > :01:48.cat. Yeah, when you play a character like this, it's not about finding a
:01:49. > :01:51.voice but you got to in the psychology of the character and the
:01:52. > :01:59.emotions of the character. Gollum was based on the idea that his guilt
:02:00. > :02:06.was trapped in his throat and physically, Mike Catt coughed up fur
:02:07. > :02:12.balls. And what in voluntary action that sparked off this sound. -- my
:02:13. > :02:19.cat. For Caesar, it is a different thing. This job, actually, was the
:02:20. > :02:26.biggest stretch from Rise Of The Planet Of The Apes, but Caesar is
:02:27. > :02:31.not just the normal chimpanzee, he's had an enhanced intelligence drugs
:02:32. > :02:35.in his veins only involves rapidly. We wanted him to sound organic and
:02:36. > :02:42.real so when he does actually start talking, he doesn't sound like he is
:02:43. > :02:45.to articulate. We know loads of people ask you to do the voice of
:02:46. > :02:53.Gollum for their voice mail messages. We were wondering, if
:02:54. > :02:59.Gollum rang Caesar's phone and went to phone, voice mail, what would it
:03:00. > :03:07.sound like? Let's see what happens. Microphone
:03:08. > :03:25.Caesar is not home! Hello, precious. It is Gollum here. We were
:03:26. > :03:28.wondering, will you stop crawling up his bottom? Don't say that!
:03:29. > :03:33.APPLAUSE Thank you.
:03:34. > :03:37.More from him later. With maybe a teaser or two about as upcoming role
:03:38. > :03:47.in the new Star Wars film. We will try. We have got a bit about gang
:03:48. > :03:56.into night. The cast of West side story. They will do a performance
:03:57. > :04:04.for us a little later on. There we go. Look at that. More from those
:04:05. > :04:09.guys later. At one time or another, most of us will have had the odd
:04:10. > :04:16.gripe with our neighbours. A noisy lawn mower, or at the barbecue which
:04:17. > :04:20.carries on longer than necessary, both annoying. Imagine living next
:04:21. > :04:28.door to a pile of rubbish which is higher than your house!
:04:29. > :04:34.Summertime. There's nothing nicer than sitting in your garden with a
:04:35. > :04:43.cup of tea. But not if you live here.
:04:44. > :04:48.This rubbish is meant to be sorted and sent off, but people living here
:04:49. > :04:57.say, instead, it's just been piling up. 81-year-old Alan has lived here
:04:58. > :05:01.for 65 years. He ran a haulage firm and least the yard to waste
:05:02. > :05:04.management company six years ago. He had no idea it would grow like this
:05:05. > :05:10.and is devastated for his neighbours. It's my yard, it just
:05:11. > :05:19.crept up on us. What can I do about it? I'm sorry, terribly sorry. What
:05:20. > :05:31.are you sorry for? This. It must make you angry? Yes. It is legal,
:05:32. > :05:35.licensed to store 5500 tonnes of nonhazardous waste like plastic,
:05:36. > :05:39.wood and paper, but over the last four years, the residents have
:05:40. > :05:45.watched it increased to estimated 18,000 tonnes. One of them is
:05:46. > :05:52.71-year-old Alan, who lives for doors up from Mr Beazley. What are
:05:53. > :05:56.the main issues? The smell on a bad day. The dust is never-ending. A
:05:57. > :06:03.huge amount of flies. Rats running around. I have really noticed the
:06:04. > :06:06.flies. We can't open the doors and windows for four years. We are
:06:07. > :06:13.really living under punishing conditions here. And nobody seems to
:06:14. > :06:18.do anything about it. And it's not just the local residents that
:06:19. > :06:22.believe something should be done. Since December 2011, the London Fire
:06:23. > :06:29.Brigade have attended 23 separate fires at the site, at a cost of
:06:30. > :06:32.?650,000. Assume that the fire starts, you have dense clouds of
:06:33. > :06:39.smoke which arise many, many metres into the sky. Incidence, closing
:06:40. > :06:44.local roads, the school across the globe has been affected. Residents
:06:45. > :06:50.have had to be evacuated. A real impact on the local community. Where
:06:51. > :06:55.does this sit in terms of risk? The highest. The Environment Agency
:06:56. > :06:59.ensures that waste companies are complying rules of their permits.
:07:00. > :07:04.Two weeks ago, took the current operators of the site to the High
:07:05. > :07:08.Court and the case was thrown out on a technicality. The Environment
:07:09. > :07:12.Agency has now ordered the company to stop taking any more waste and
:07:13. > :07:17.reduce the pile to the size permitted by this license. The firm
:07:18. > :07:21.told us that the most recent enforcement notice preventing the
:07:22. > :07:24.company from accepting waste, the only source of income, it cannot
:07:25. > :07:34.afford to reduce the pile any further. It's not just one street
:07:35. > :07:36.affected. I have come to meet two residents associations representing
:07:37. > :07:44.people for miles around whose lives are dominated by the dump. We have
:07:45. > :07:51.got the residents literally on its borders. We have got the skills
:07:52. > :07:56.surrounding it, green belts. The road closures. Fire engines. People
:07:57. > :08:01.can't get to work. It causes mayhem. We can't take our
:08:02. > :08:08.grandchildren to the local park. It's so smelly. It's important to
:08:09. > :08:14.remember, when they bring rubbish in, they are being paid to sorted
:08:15. > :08:17.and take it away. If it was taken away as it should've been, it
:08:18. > :08:24.wouldn't be as high as it is at the moment. Bob is the local MP. Who is
:08:25. > :08:29.to blame for this? I think the people operating the site beyond the
:08:30. > :08:34.terms of the licensed oblivion by at agency to bring the people to book.
:08:35. > :08:38.For failing to come up to what their terms are. We were told they will be
:08:39. > :08:41.court action and we don't know the reasons why it's failed. The
:08:42. > :08:45.Environment Agency said it fully understands and shares the
:08:46. > :08:48.frustration of local residents. And it will consider what action it
:08:49. > :08:53.should take once the reason for the court 's decision have been
:08:54. > :09:02.announced. As for the residents, he says years of anxiety had taken a
:09:03. > :09:09.heavy toll. You have been quite ill? Yes, I've been on the sixth two
:09:10. > :09:14.years. -- been on the sick for two years. I worked there to get me
:09:15. > :09:19.down. Spare a thought for the people who live here who can't open their
:09:20. > :09:26.windows thanks to the rubbish dump next door.
:09:27. > :09:32.I'm sure people can not believe their eyes. That does actually look
:09:33. > :09:39.like one of the scenes from Planet Of The Apes. Can you imagine living
:09:40. > :09:49.next door to something like that? Not that size, no. We live next door
:09:50. > :09:55.but one to die was passed away recently but was a hoarder, and his
:09:56. > :10:02.house is under quarantine. It was just piling up. So, there's very
:10:03. > :10:08.little you can do. Yeah, every single room is so cramped. It's
:10:09. > :10:11.unbelievable. Getting back to the company involved, they say they have
:10:12. > :10:16.got to bring in more rubbish in order to pay for the disposal of the
:10:17. > :10:19.rubbish there. Effectively, the pile has got to get bigger before it gets
:10:20. > :10:25.smaller for the pet sounds ludicrous. That is exactly what they
:10:26. > :10:30.are saying, yes. It is an excuse they have used before, actually. And
:10:31. > :10:35.I suppose there is logic in that they need an income stream to pay
:10:36. > :10:39.for this to be dealt with but the residents are not buying it any
:10:40. > :10:43.wonder that lost faith in the whole process. I spoke to Alan who you saw
:10:44. > :10:47.in the film this morning, to get an update on what was going on, and he
:10:48. > :10:49.said he could not believe that last Monday when more lorries containing
:10:50. > :10:54.more waste turned up. The Environment Agency issued a section
:10:55. > :10:59.36 the next day, so it's now illegal for a any haulage companies to bring
:11:00. > :11:04.rubbish to the site for them it is all locked up for that there's no
:11:05. > :11:11.more rubbish coming in, but who will remove it and pay for it? Is there
:11:12. > :11:14.an answer to that? No, local MP at the House of Commons today were
:11:15. > :11:17.talking about the situation and they did not drop of an answer. The
:11:18. > :11:23.Environment Agency said it's not its responsibility and it is the land
:11:24. > :11:28.owner and operator's 's responsibility to remove the
:11:29. > :11:32.rubbish. Ultimately, there has been a suggestion the local council and
:11:33. > :11:40.taxpayer could foot the bill. We just don't know. It is a big mess
:11:41. > :11:43.and a big dump. How dangerous is it? One of the main problems has been
:11:44. > :11:48.fire full supply think there has been 23 fires London Fire Brigade
:11:49. > :11:51.have attended including one of the biggest ever in that vicinity and I
:11:52. > :11:55.know the waste industry is working very hard on prevention of fires, so
:11:56. > :12:00.that's one of the biggest problems for them when I was there, the
:12:01. > :12:04.biggest thing I could not get away from work the flies. I have worked
:12:05. > :12:07.all over the world next to sewers, but the there, I have never
:12:08. > :12:14.experienced, and the smell, as well. Thanks, Lucy. Hopefully it
:12:15. > :12:17.will get sorted. In Planet Of The Apes, Andy Mac boss character sees
:12:18. > :12:23.is read by humans before he breaks free and becomes a leader of his own
:12:24. > :12:29.kind but no real apes were used in the making of these movies but for
:12:30. > :12:38.one chimp who had close contact with humans from an early age, life is
:12:39. > :12:43.very different. Light refreshments? Thank you most kindly, madam. No
:12:44. > :12:49.matter what life throws at you, cup of to make it all right. A very
:12:50. > :12:54.British idea which inspired a series of popular TV commercials. The
:12:55. > :13:00.adverts were much loved by the public. They help to make a tea
:13:01. > :13:04.brand the most popular in the UK. My name is Brooke Bond. They also made
:13:05. > :13:10.superstars of the chimpanzee actors with hundreds of thousands of people
:13:11. > :13:16.flocking to see them. This ain't Calais, it is blinking Catford.
:13:17. > :13:20.Watch your French. Have some more PG Tips, boys. They were trained in
:13:21. > :13:27.Leicestershire and today, the last PG Tips chimp is still here. He can
:13:28. > :13:32.be seen in many of the famous commercials dating back to the 70s
:13:33. > :13:39.and 80s. And this is her today at the age of 43. Unfortunately, the
:13:40. > :13:47.glamour of TV did come at a price. The problem is she thinks she is
:13:48. > :13:50.human. She grew up in the media, really, so her formative years when
:13:51. > :13:55.should learn a lot of normal chimpanzee behaviour before six
:13:56. > :13:58.years old, similar to humans, she actually was spending so much time
:13:59. > :14:03.with humans, she learned how to be a human, not proper chimpanzee
:14:04. > :14:08.behaviour and communication and their communication is so different
:14:09. > :14:11.to us, they use body posturing, subtle physical signals and, unless
:14:12. > :14:15.she knows what they mean, she can't respond accordingly and it's a
:14:16. > :14:20.gradual process for her to learn how to be a chimpanzee, but she is doing
:14:21. > :14:23.well and she needs know how to use her behaviour is the right context.
:14:24. > 2:46:33One of the animals you are trying to train to be a chimpanzee
2:46:34 > 2:46:33One of the animals you are trying to old. She is at an advanced age but
2:46:34 > 2:46:33could live another ten or 15 years so it's important that we help and
2:46:34 > 2:46:33supported to a chimpanzee again. Choppers is now under growing a
2:46:34 > 2:46:33special training plan. -- undergoing a special training plan. Even her
2:46:34 > 2:46:33keeper stays out at feeding time. Molly, who died in 2007, was her
2:46:34 > 2:46:33original trainer and he never dream that her work was doing more harm
2:46:34 > 2:46:33than good. They had a whale of a time. They were spoiled rotten. They
2:46:34 > 2:46:33stayed in 5-star hotels and they stayed in bedrooms. Like the pop
2:46:34 > 2:46:33stars of today. Did Molly get it wrong? She was not wrong. She was of
2:46:34 > 2:46:33her time. Some of the work she was doing was world leading. Like most
2:46:34 > 2:46:33people she got older and the world has changed since. I think we should
2:46:34 > 2:46:33be careful not to criticise the past. I remember seeing the adverts
2:46:34 > 2:46:33for PG Tips and not being impressed with the way the animals were being
2:46:34 > 2:46:33used. They were certainly iconic at the time and you could say that
2:46:34 > 2:46:33turned some people onto seeing chimpanzees as marvellous and
2:46:34 > 2:46:33wonderful animals. Nowadays our concern would be with the use of
2:46:34 > 2:46:33great apes in current Hollywood movies, which would be inexcusable
2:46:34 > 2:46:33these days. Gyms are fabulous animals but they need to be chimps.
2:46:34 > 2:46:33-- chimps are fabulous. That is how they should be enjoyed and
2:46:34 > 2:46:33appreciated. I know that the chimpanzee adverts were loved but I
2:46:34 > 2:46:33am really glad that lessons have been learned and are being learned,
2:46:34 > 2:46:33and now the only monkey that you will see in a monkey is a wooden
2:46:34 > 2:46:33one. Very different. Do you remember
2:46:34 > 2:46:33those adverts? Absolutely. At the time nobody knew the harm that was
2:46:34 > 2:46:33being caused. It is pretty sad seeing that. But times have moved
2:46:34 > 2:46:33on. And there is recognition for apes. In fact a couple of weeks ago
2:46:34 > 2:46:33we were doing a question and answer session and a climatologist that I
2:46:34 > 2:46:33have got to know is session and a climatologist that I
2:46:34 > 2:46:33eight rights in line with human rights because they are genetically
2:46:34 > 2:46:33the same. -- ape rights. Earlier we talked about the lengths he went to
2:46:34 > 2:46:33to get the voice for Caesar but what about the body language? If you are
2:46:34 > 2:46:33going to pick up a teacup, how would you do it as Caesar? Where do you
2:46:34 > 2:46:33start? It is interesting because the use of hands for Caesar really
2:46:34 > 2:46:33changed from Rise Of The Planet Of The Apes to Dawn. It
2:46:34 > 2:46:33changed from Rise Of The Planet Of loose wristed, using four
2:46:34 > 2:46:33changed from Rise Of The Planet Of a middle finger, really. Was that
2:46:34 > 2:46:33changed from Rise Of The Planet Of because of his age? Chimpanzees have
2:46:34 > 2:46:33an extended middle finger and they pick things up with them. You
2:46:34 > 2:46:33studied them a lot. Yes. There are lots of different stages to building
2:46:34 > 2:46:33a character. With Caesar it is not just playing a chimp, but
2:46:34 > 2:46:33understanding the character, and as I was saying earlier he is more
2:46:34 > 2:46:33psychologically and emotionally advanced. The journey from a small
2:46:34 > 2:46:33chimpanzee to the one that we see in Dawn, where he is upright, and has a
2:46:34 > 2:46:33human physicality. I based it on a real chimpanzee called Oliver. That
2:46:34 > 2:46:33was from the 1970s. He was the subject of a lot of DNA experiments
2:46:34 > 2:46:33because people believed that he was possibly the progeny of man and
2:46:34 > 2:46:33eight, the missing link. He had a particular physicality, very
2:46:34 > 2:46:33upright. He could walk into a studio and sit down and pick up a glass. He
2:46:34 > 2:46:33had quick and rather human and sit down and pick up a glass. He
2:46:34 > 2:46:33expressions and there was a sense of this otherness, this other being,
2:46:34 > 2:46:33trapped in the wrong body almost. He has a connection with humans and he
2:46:34 > 2:46:33bonds to keep the peace. Let's have a quick look.
2:46:34 > 2:46:33Apes do not want war! Do not, back. -- do not come back. The technology
2:46:34 > 2:46:33has moved on so much since the first film. It is incredible. That
2:46:34 > 2:46:33performance capture, it is the whole body involved. I have had a go and
2:46:34 > 2:46:33it is incredibly difficult. What it is, basically, when you think about
2:46:34 > 2:46:33it, is another bunch of cameras filming an actor. That is what you
2:46:34 > 2:46:33have to think of it as. There we are in a scene from the movie, and it
2:46:34 > 2:46:33allows you to really internalise the thoughts. Rather than having thick
2:46:34 > 2:46:33layers of make-up on and a hairy suit, we can play the subtleties of
2:46:34 > 2:46:33every single gesture, thought and emotion, in a very real way. Then it
2:46:34 > 2:46:33is translated, as you can see. The animators have to take the
2:46:34 > 2:46:33performances and emulate them completely so that the intention is
2:46:34 > 2:46:33read on the ape's face. I can see the intense and tea. You have to
2:46:34 > 2:46:33really perform. Yes, all the physical and emotional work. But you
2:46:34 > 2:46:33cannot make it like pantomime or do too much movement. We are going to
2:46:34 > 2:46:33talk about Star Wars Episode 7. Is this going to be shot? What can you
2:46:34 > 2:46:33tell us about your role? Great. Is that it! Proof that you have been
2:46:34 > 2:46:33there because we have a photo from the read-through and you are in the
2:46:34 > 2:46:33bottom left of the screen. Yes, circled! Are you texting? I think I
2:46:34 > 2:46:33am reading one of my children's school reports. Not really! I was
2:46:34 > 2:46:33concentrating very hard on an amazing read-through. That was the
2:46:34 > 2:46:33first gathering of everyone together and it was an amazing day. Did you
2:46:34 > 2:46:33have to audition? I met with JJ Abrahams. It is no secret,
2:46:34 > 2:46:33actually. He went to see Matt, who directed Dawn Of The Planet Of The
2:46:34 > 2:46:33Apes, and he went to an early screening and it showed the entire
2:46:34 > 2:46:33film but with us with our head-mounted cameras on before the
2:46:34 > 2:46:33animation was put on top. He was very interested in that and we met
2:46:34 > 2:46:33up afterwards. So you will be using that style of technology? I am not
2:46:34 > 2:46:33saying anything about the character! I don't know if my character is live
2:46:34 > 2:46:33action or anything. You will have to wait until 2015 to see Episode 7 but
2:46:34 > 2:46:33Dawn Of The Planet Of The Apes is released this Thursday, July the
2:46:34 > 2:46:3317th. Tomorrow night a new drama will tell the tale of a group of
2:46:34 > 2:46:33campaigning schoolgirls who secured the release of their friend who was
2:46:34 > 2:46:33seized by immigration officials. The real Glasgow girls tell us their
2:46:34 > 2:46:33story. # Not giving in.
2:46:34 > 2:46:33# Not giving in. This is the tale of seven Glasgow
2:46:34 > 2:46:33schoolgirls who took on the immigration authorities. Their
2:46:34 > 2:46:33campaign to stop dawn raids and the detention of families seeking asylum
2:46:34 > 2:46:33helped to change the law in Britain. An estimated 24,000 Roma
2:46:34 > 2:46:33gypsies fled war-torn Kosovo during the 1998 conflict. Many sought
2:46:34 > 2:46:33asylum in Britain. In 2005, this family was among them, but after
2:46:34 > 2:46:33four years of living in Glasgow, their claim for asylum was rejected.
2:46:34 > 2:46:33They were subjected to a dawn raid by immigration authorities who
2:46:34 > 2:46:33planned to deport them. They rushed in and I could hear my mum crying. I
2:46:34 > 2:46:33knew what the problem was straightaway and they came in at 4
2:46:34 > 2:46:33o'clock and took us away. They drove at 100 mph to a detention centre in
2:46:34 > 2:46:33London. We thought it was over and we had to go back with nothing to
2:46:34 > 2:46:33look forward to. When six of her classmates found out what had
2:46:34 > 2:46:33happened, they took action. They've started a petition for the girl they
2:46:34 > 2:46:33saw as a friend. One of them filmed the scenes of joy when after three
2:46:34 > 2:46:33weeks she and her family returned to Glasgow. The Home Office realised it
2:46:34 > 2:46:33had acted improperly by ignoring a United Nations exemption stating it
2:46:34 > 2:46:33was not safe for Roma families to be deported to Kosovo. Because of her
2:46:34 > 2:46:33experience, the friends joined together to campaign to stop dawn
2:46:34 > 2:46:33raids and detentions and they became known as the Glasgow Girls. If we
2:46:34 > 2:46:33had social media, it would have been much easier and we might have had a
2:46:34 > 2:46:33bigger impact. But when she was taken away it was 2005, a year
2:46:34 > 2:46:33before Facebook. We had to do it the old-fashioned way. We started a
2:46:34 > 2:46:33petition in the school, and then we contacted our local MSP and showed
2:46:34 > 2:46:33them the petition and also the media. The campaign really caught
2:46:34 > 2:46:33the imagination of the media. The winners of the public campaign award
2:46:34 > 2:46:33are the Glasgow girls. And they won awards for their efforts. Thank you
2:46:34 > 2:46:33again. Finally, in 2010, came the change the girls had struggled for,
2:46:34 > 2:46:33the end of long-term detention for the children of failed asylum
2:46:34 > 2:46:33seekers. We are ending this shameful practice that last year alone saw
2:46:34 > 2:46:33over 1000 children, 1000 innocent children, in prison. I thought it
2:46:34 > 2:46:33was good because politicians were listening to us and our campaigning
2:46:34 > 2:46:33and changing things like with the detention centres but I think there
2:46:34 > 2:46:33is still a lot ahead and more needs to be done. The One Show has
2:46:34 > 2:46:33reunited all seven girls for the first time in seven years and
2:46:34 > 2:46:33brought them back to their old school to get an exclusive look
2:46:34 > 2:46:33behind-the-scenes at a new BBC drama based on their story. They're what
2:46:34 > 2:46:33is it like suddenly to have all seven of you together after all
2:46:34 > 2:46:33these years? What is it like? Very emotional and exciting. They are
2:46:34 > 2:46:33making a BBC drama about you. There will be a new audience, people who
2:46:34 > 2:46:33might not know about us or the issues asylum seekers face every
2:46:34 > 2:46:33day. Hopefully it will be an insight for them and they will be inspired
2:46:34 > 2:46:33to do something and take some action. The Glasgow girls made
2:46:34 > 2:46:33politicians think again and transformed the lives of many
2:46:34 > 2:46:33refugees. Thousands of families seeking asylum in Britain have
2:46:34 > 2:46:33benefited from the new laws. Since 2010, no child has been locked up in
2:46:34 > 2:46:33long-term detention. Dawn raids do still occur but they are by no means
2:46:34 > 2:46:33as common. And you can see Glasgow Girls on BBC Three tomorrow night at
2:46:34 > 2:46:3310pm. Are you a fan of West Side Story? I love it and I have seen
2:46:34 > 2:46:33this very show. It is brilliant. You can tell us what happens in a
2:46:34 > 2:46:33minute! Planet Of The Apes is out on Thursday. Jasper Carrott will be
2:46:34 > 2:46:33here tomorrow and we are going to leave you with a cast of West Side
2:46:34 > 2:46:33Story, which is touring the country at the moment. They are performing
2:46:34 > 2:46:33America! # I like the island Manhattan.
2:46:34 > 2:46:33# Smoke on your pipe and put that in!
2:46:34 > 2:46:33# I like the shows of America. # Wall to wall flaws in America!
2:46:34 > 2:46:33# When I will go back to San Juan. # When you will shut up
2:46:34 > 2:46:33and get gone? # Everyone there will
2:46:34 > 2:46:33give big cheer! # Everyone there will
2:46:34 > 2:46:34have moved here!