:00:16. > :00:18.Hello and welcome to the One Show with Matt Allwright.
:00:19. > :00:20.Well, we say welcome to the One Show.
:00:21. > :00:34.Perhaps we should say welcome to the Mad House.
:00:35. > :00:42.And budget for this movie. ?48. What does it mean? Does that answer your
:00:43. > :00:45.question. Any questions? I didn't understand a
:00:46. > :00:55.word he said. It's 25 years since CU Jimmy was
:00:56. > :01:10.on our screens. Is it that long? Is there are still
:01:11. > :01:27.a little bit of Jimmy in there. Say what you like about Scottish
:01:28. > :01:30.terrier types, but we were at the fringe yesterday and on the Royal
:01:31. > :01:37.mile, there were ginger wigs everywhere.
:01:38. > :01:44.You are responsible for that. I wish I had patented it! We want to know
:01:45. > :01:49.if CU Jimmy is still alive and well out there. If you have got photos of
:01:50. > :01:53.you wearing the wigs, e-mail them to us, please, and we will Boomers at
:01:54. > :01:58.the end of the show. Nicely done.
:01:59. > :02:02.Trish Adudu looks at plans to offer surgery to more overweight people
:02:03. > :02:05.suffering from diabetes and other diseases and asks if that's the best
:02:06. > :02:17.Never mind Great Britain, welcome to fact Britain. According to official
:02:18. > :02:20.public health figures in England, Wales, Scotland and Northern
:02:21. > :02:27.Ireland, the average Brit is overweight. Meet Philip, Darren and
:02:28. > :02:31.Gary. They all have type two diabetes that is related to their
:02:32. > :02:37.weight. They already do more than 400 gastric operations here at this
:02:38. > :02:42.hospital in Chichester every year, a figure that could be about to rise
:02:43. > :02:43.substantially here and across England and Wales. As it stands,
:02:44. > :02:47.substantially here and across England and Wales. if you have type
:02:48. > :02:57.two diabetes, you will only be considered for gastric surgery if
:02:58. > :03:02.your BMI is 35 or above. But NICE's draft conditions could mean this is
:03:03. > :03:05.lowered to a BMI of just 30. So a man with type two diabetes who is
:03:06. > :03:10.five foot nine, the national average, winning 14 stone, just a
:03:11. > :03:16.stone heavier, than the national average, could be offered surgery.
:03:17. > :03:25.Philip is about to have major surgery, a gastric bypass operation.
:03:26. > :03:32.How did you get to this stage in the first place? Overeating. I am in
:03:33. > :03:36.classic example. In the lunch break, I would went down to the chip shop
:03:37. > :03:44.and get a steak and kidney pie and chips. I had 12 cream cakes
:03:45. > :03:51.afterwards. 12?! 12 cream cakes! I was a Gannett. Why do you not just
:03:52. > :03:54.carry on dieting? It is not enough, I have to exercise. But with my
:03:55. > :04:01.other problem is, cannot go running or jogging. I am in inactive. The
:04:02. > :04:08.operation Philip is about to have costs less than a lifetime of
:04:09. > :04:13.diabetic care. Diabetes UK argues that although surgery may result in
:04:14. > :04:19.fewer people taking medication, it cannot solve the problem on its own.
:04:20. > :04:25.Doctors here say that it is a start. Diabetes costs the NHS 25% of the
:04:26. > :04:29.budget. We have to look at cost-effective ways of treating
:04:30. > :04:33.people with diabetes. What do you say, Philip, to the people who say
:04:34. > :04:38.that actually people like you are draining the NHS with operations
:04:39. > :04:44.like this? Considering the number of tablets I'd take a month, and I have
:04:45. > :04:47.taken that for 14 years, if you outweigh that cost against the cost
:04:48. > :04:53.of the operation, it works out cheaper in the long run. If accepted
:04:54. > :04:56.by the Department of Health, NICE's changes will mean that an extra
:04:57. > :05:00.300,000 people with type two diabetes could be considered for
:05:01. > :05:09.weight loss surgery. With obesity costing the NHS over ?5 billion a
:05:10. > :05:12.year, and all diabetes almost ?10 billion, NICE say that something has
:05:13. > :05:18.to be done. But does it have to be as drastic as surgery? Darren says
:05:19. > :05:26.no. He is a traffic warden who lost six stone through lifestyle change
:05:27. > :05:30.and has his diabetes under control. I am now free of insulin. You change
:05:31. > :05:37.the way you eat and the amount of food you eat, and just by doing
:05:38. > :05:40.that, I got the confidence to run. Knowing what I know now, I would
:05:41. > :05:46.never go for the operation. Gary is a surveyor and he did go for the
:05:47. > :05:56.operation. Before having the bypass, he weighed a whopping 30 stone.
:05:57. > :06:02.Since having the bypass, he can only small portions. That will fill you
:06:03. > :06:06.up? That is more than sufficient. And what would happen if you ate
:06:07. > :06:14.more than that? It would be really uncomfortable. Even two years on
:06:15. > :06:18.from the operation? Two years ago, I would probably have been sick. If
:06:19. > :06:22.you did not have the operation, or what state would you be in? Surgery
:06:23. > :06:29.as a last resort but for me, it saved my life, as simple as that.
:06:30. > :06:33.NICE say that more than half of those who have surgery have more
:06:34. > :06:37.control over their diabetes. They are less likely to develop diabetes
:06:38. > :06:41.related illnesses. Philip is now out of surgery and hoping to get back to
:06:42. > :06:49.his job as a coach driver. With his cream cake days well behind him. How
:06:50. > :06:53.are you feeling? I feel like someone has kicked me in the stomach. Now
:06:54. > :06:56.begins the journey for the rest of your life. I hope it will be healthy
:06:57. > :07:03.eating and losing weight, becoming fitter. But only time will tell.
:07:04. > :07:04.Professor Mark Baker from NICE who worked
:07:05. > :07:08.These are just proposals at the moment.
:07:09. > :07:18.How likely are they to come into effect? We have consulted on
:07:19. > :07:22.these proposals and the consultation period has finished. We have started
:07:23. > :07:27.looking at the 250 pages of responses that we have had. One
:07:28. > :07:30.thing that will not change is the evidence that bariatric surgery can
:07:31. > :07:36.help people with diabetes who are obese. It can help them to control
:07:37. > :07:39.diabetes better and about one in five cases ceases to have the
:07:40. > :07:49.diagnosis. That is a significant benefit for people. We're talking
:07:50. > :07:53.about a shift from 35 to 30. How many more people will have to go for
:07:54. > :07:58.surgery? That encompasses 400,000 more people. But there are a lot of
:07:59. > :08:02.barriers to go through before we get to those people having surgery. The
:08:03. > :08:06.mainstay of treatment for diabetes continues to be diet and exercise.
:08:07. > :08:12.If that does not work, then we look at medicine. If people's diabetes is
:08:13. > :08:17.still difficult to control, then we can consider surgery. But one of the
:08:18. > :08:22.things that this draft guidance is suggesting is that we look at the
:08:23. > :08:25.benefit of surgery early in the patient's career with diabetes,
:08:26. > :08:32.echoes what we want to do is prevent them getting long-term convocations.
:08:33. > :08:36.Diabetes damages the blood vessels and causes heart attack, stroke,
:08:37. > :08:43.amputation and blindness. We want to change the story before those organ
:08:44. > :08:47.affects Orquera. The earlier we look at using surgery, the better it
:08:48. > :08:53.would be for the patient. -- effects occur. You mentioned diet and
:08:54. > :08:56.exercise. We saw Darin in the film, who has turned things around. He has
:08:57. > :09:02.changed his diet and he is exercising. At what point do you
:09:03. > :09:08.decide that that is not working for this particular patient? There is
:09:09. > :09:13.nothing like getting a diagnosis of diabetes to change your lifestyle.
:09:14. > :09:17.Many people do succeed with diet and exercise to achieve the change in
:09:18. > :09:21.lifestyle that they require. But some people do not. Some people find
:09:22. > :09:28.it very difficult to diet. Some people, because of arthritis caused
:09:29. > :09:33.by being obese, find it difficult to exercise. Some people, even if they
:09:34. > :09:36.do lose weight, still find that their diabetes is difficult to
:09:37. > :09:40.control. It is in those patients, people who can diet and are prepared
:09:41. > :09:46.to be followed for a period of time, but who still have diabetes and it
:09:47. > :09:49.is difficult to control, they can benefit from obesity surgery and
:09:50. > :09:56.they are the people that we want to make it available to. And you can
:09:57. > :10:01.find more information on BMI and type two diabetes on our website.
:10:02. > :10:04.Now Russ here was lucky enough to work with the
:10:05. > :10:09.legendary comic actor Frank Thornton in Last of the Summer Wine.
:10:10. > :10:14.I'd rather be in combat gear. My wedding suit turned out to be combat
:10:15. > :10:15.gear. Frank's daughter Jane gives
:10:16. > :10:17.an insight into the man who liked to maintain
:10:18. > :10:33.standards off screen as well as on. When I was young, I phoned my father
:10:34. > :10:41.severe. He believed that behaviour was everything. No cuddles. He was
:10:42. > :10:46.Captain Peacock. If you continue to get up my nose, I will be forced to
:10:47. > :10:55.mentioned the number of days that you leave early. I'm able to blow my
:10:56. > :10:58.top. Judging by the top of your head, you have already blown it. He
:10:59. > :11:04.could be the funniest man but stubborn. It was a battle of wills
:11:05. > :11:06.from the word go. When I was a boarding school, we had to write
:11:07. > :11:13.home every weekend. But when he wrote back, all he did was pick me
:11:14. > :11:18.up on my grammar and spelling. This is the street we lived in. We came
:11:19. > :11:24.here when I was 18 months old, just after the war. I've still dream
:11:25. > :11:28.about this place, I do not know why. My father had to augment his actors
:11:29. > :11:37.salary by taking portrait photographs. Of well-known actors.
:11:38. > :11:40.For the Spotlight directory. Famous people came here to have their
:11:41. > :11:47.pictures taken, Clive Dunn and Hattie Jakes. He often used to bring
:11:48. > :11:56.me to the science Museum. He loved teaching me things. We would head
:11:57. > :12:03.straight for the children's gallery. He would have loved that. What have
:12:04. > :12:06.we got here? It is also high-tech. I remember the automatic doors we used
:12:07. > :12:15.a love going through. Quite a novelty in the 1950s. Hot hands. Do
:12:16. > :12:20.you come here often? This is my 12th time. I was 15 when he got his first
:12:21. > :12:25.big break, playing a patient in a Tony Hancock, deep that became a
:12:26. > :12:29.classic. Some people are better placed than others. Let's forget all
:12:30. > :12:34.about it. He never wanted to be a leading man. There was a particular
:12:35. > :12:39.part that he was at solidly brilliant at. He played Eeyore in
:12:40. > :12:44.Winnie the Pooh. Long faced, lugubrious, I loved him in that
:12:45. > :12:53.part. I made in this and took it to his dressing room as a present.
:12:54. > :13:04.Stand-by, please. In 1972, and you being served? , 13 years of it. The
:13:05. > :13:10.biggest sitcom of its time. Are you free? I'm free! Will you take the
:13:11. > :13:16.floor for a moment so why can discuss a matter with a member of
:13:17. > :13:19.the council? I used to go to the recordings. They liked having me in
:13:20. > :13:27.the audience because I laughed louder than anyone else. He was shy
:13:28. > :13:33.and private and he never wanted to do this is your life. You could see
:13:34. > :13:37.the look of fear in his eyes when he was approached by Michael Aspel.
:13:38. > :13:45.Tonight, Frank Thornton, this is your life. Somebody has betrayed me!
:13:46. > :13:48.There was the funniest moment when he recounted how he had left my
:13:49. > :13:53.mother during the engagement. But she had the best reply. We had been
:13:54. > :14:06.engaged and eye had broken it off, but I remember... You broke it
:14:07. > :14:12.off?! He came back into the public eye in 1997 in Last of the Summer
:14:13. > :14:22.Wine. It went on for another 13 years. We will head him off! We had
:14:23. > :14:25.a coveted relationship but late on in his life he gave me a big heart
:14:26. > :14:31.and said he was sorry he had been so strict, so that was lovely. In the
:14:32. > :14:35.end, I followed him into the theatre, but backstage, as a stage
:14:36. > :14:40.manager. I think they were relieved that they did not want to be an
:14:41. > :14:43.actress. He was 92 when he died. Eye had mixed feelings about how to
:14:44. > :14:51.remember him. A great sense of humour, but the uprightness and
:14:52. > :15:00.correctness, the Englishness. I suppose I could say he was a
:15:01. > :15:05.gentleman. Does that sound like the Frank Thornton you got to know?
:15:06. > :15:09.Frank was charming, a gentleman. I remember when I first joined the
:15:10. > :15:15.series, he said, welcome to the series. I thought, what a thrill.
:15:16. > :15:20.What a compliment. You think of his past track record, his work, the
:15:21. > :15:27.great actor, wonderful. He made me was -- most welcome. Let's talk
:15:28. > :15:32.about Boomers, the first you have done since Last Of The Summer Wine.
:15:33. > :15:40.You are playing someone younger. How does that work? I am fortunate,
:15:41. > :15:44.playing my own age. It is still are cast. Stephanie Beacham plays my
:15:45. > :15:49.wife. June Whitfield plays my mother-in-law. Alison Steadman and
:15:50. > :15:55.Philip Jackson, Paula Wilcox and Jane Smith, a great cast. We play
:15:56. > :16:00.three couples, in our 60s, from different backgrounds. We have
:16:01. > :16:07.retired in this fictitious town, retired or semi retired. It is about
:16:08. > :16:13.our approach to retirement. Some others are wanting to get on, some
:16:14. > :16:18.others are moody. Great fun. I watched the first episode this
:16:19. > :16:25.morning. It is like Friends for the recently retired! Even as Dell are
:16:26. > :16:32.cast, they sit on the sofa, there you are on the park bench. For a
:16:33. > :16:36.long time, actors of a certain age said there was not much workaround
:16:37. > :16:41.but it seems the landscape has started to change. Yes, it will
:16:42. > :16:48.appeal to my own generation and younger as well. It is everyday life
:16:49. > :16:55.which you can refer to. I know those people, you and me, and George and
:16:56. > :16:58.Mildred down the road. I could see my mum and dad when I was watching
:16:59. > :17:02.it. This is you want your screen wife,
:17:03. > :17:09.Stephanie Beacham, from tomorrow's episode. It is good to see them
:17:10. > :17:14.after all these years. Yet He will jolly the women along. He tries hard
:17:15. > :17:19.with the ladies, he tried hard enough with you. You are not still
:17:20. > :17:25.thinking of that holiday. He was after you, not just in Weymouth. He
:17:26. > :17:31.was just messing about. He was all over you like a rash. It is a
:17:32. > :17:39.funeral, let's try and enjoy at! What a brilliant line! We have done
:17:40. > :17:47.a bit of arithmetic. Those main characters have 324 years of showbiz
:17:48. > :17:52.experience. Get away! 324 years of showbiz experience. When you get
:17:53. > :17:58.together, who holds court and tells the best stories? It is difficult to
:17:59. > :18:03.say. Most of the fund is when the guys are together and the girls are
:18:04. > :18:09.together, because we talk about each other, as you do in life. The wives
:18:10. > :18:15.talk about the husbands and the husbands talk about the wives. We
:18:16. > :18:19.are all having a good time. Who is getting the biggest laughs, we are
:18:20. > :18:24.all in there together. June Whitfield I am sure takes control.
:18:25. > :18:30.She is remarkable. It is remarkable, she is such a talented
:18:31. > :18:35.lady, so gifted. She is in a wheelchair, yet the presence is
:18:36. > :18:40.there. We move about and she has two wheel into the scene and she's
:18:41. > :18:46.there, the charisma is there. Magic. Somebody says she has a personal
:18:47. > :18:57.trainer. Yes, once week. It pays its way! Have you got one? I do if I am
:18:58. > :19:03.going into a West End run, a season, then I need ultimate fitness. I take
:19:04. > :19:07.on a trainer for a couple of weeks. The giggles off-screen get onto the
:19:08. > :19:12.screen eventually. Of course, we enjoy working together. When we
:19:13. > :19:17.turned up for the read-through, we looked around the table, look at all
:19:18. > :19:23.these people. We are all stars, altogether in One Show. Thank you,
:19:24. > :19:29.Russ. Boomers starts tomorrow night, at 9pm on BBC One.
:19:30. > :19:33.After weeks of harrowing images and horrific stories finding their way
:19:34. > :19:37.out of Iraq, the Prime Minister says our involvement will be limited to
:19:38. > :19:42.sending aid. The question is, is that enough?
:19:43. > :19:45.Lucy went to an airshow in Eastbourne to ask people how they
:19:46. > :19:51.think we should be responding. Over 1 million Iraqi civilians have
:19:52. > :19:57.fled militants of IS, fearing rape, beheadings and genocide. It is being
:19:58. > :20:01.reported that the US has begun supplying weapons to the Kurdish
:20:02. > :20:05.forces, Depeche Mode, and now the French have followed suit. To
:20:06. > :20:11.discuss what the UK should do to help and in order to gauge public
:20:12. > :20:15.opinion on the extent of our involvement, I have come to an
:20:16. > :20:21.airshow with an Iraq war veteran and director of military sciences,
:20:22. > :20:25.Elizabeth Quintana. From humanitarian point of view, we
:20:26. > :20:31.should get people away from that terrible area. Where do you draw the
:20:32. > :20:34.line? Once you are involved, you are involved. We can provide
:20:35. > :20:41.humanitarian relief and step back. How do we get out of it? We are in
:20:42. > :20:45.there for the long-term. Are more arms in the Middle East than
:20:46. > :20:50.anywhere else in the world. People should help out. The West can help
:20:51. > :20:57.most by facilitating a political solution. Are you fearful of the
:20:58. > :21:01.rise of IS? Any sort of rising in terms of extremist views is a
:21:02. > :21:06.concern for everybody, but hopefully from now on, the Americans are
:21:07. > :21:12.involved and it may die down. Is that likely? Is everything under
:21:13. > :21:15.control? They have captured a lot of military equipment, they have
:21:16. > :21:22.captured oilfields, so they are well supported and if they link up with
:21:23. > :21:26.IS in Syria, we could have a lot of problems. I am worried about sending
:21:27. > :21:34.tornadoes over there and not actually doing anything to help the
:21:35. > :21:41.Americans in their bombing. If there is a western face on the response it
:21:42. > :21:47.will not last and it will make IS more likely to react. What they are
:21:48. > :21:51.trying to do is help the Iraqi response. The people causing the
:21:52. > :21:57.problems in Iraq, where were they for the ten years we were out there
:21:58. > :22:02.and how have they come back to strength? When you are dealing with
:22:03. > :22:06.IS you have to do something radical, otherwise they will behead people
:22:07. > :22:11.and chase down the minorities. Why is Paul wrong to call for this
:22:12. > :22:17.intervention? What can be achieved with more boots on the ground that
:22:18. > :22:23.we have failed to achieve in the last ten years? It is a good point,
:22:24. > :22:28.there is no easy answer. A force of 800 that have been so dramatically
:22:29. > :22:34.radicalised, has to be dealt with in a way that we have not dealt with
:22:35. > :22:38.any others previously. Paul is right, the Iraqi armed forces are
:22:39. > :22:45.not capable of dealing with the thread. We have to look at how else
:22:46. > :22:51.we might help them do the job. You non must, this is a story you have
:22:52. > :22:56.been following. -- Russ, this is a story you have been following. We
:22:57. > :23:01.have to help these people. It is biblical, tragic. To bring up young
:23:02. > :23:07.children witnessing beheading and trauma, what is that child going to
:23:08. > :23:12.grow into? What will he think? How will he deal with his future? The
:23:13. > :23:18.most important thing is the refugees, they must be helped and
:23:19. > :23:23.provided for. We are doing that the best we can. We owe our services are
:23:24. > :23:27.huge round of applause for their dedication to the task.
:23:28. > :23:32.Time for story of a fun loving criminal, whose quest for la dolce
:23:33. > :23:39.vita resulted in him crossing the wrong Italian. Gyles has a
:23:40. > :23:44.cautionary tale. Dubbed by the press of the human
:23:45. > :23:49.fly, and the King of the cat burglars, but between the 1950s and
:23:50. > :23:53.1970s, Peter Scott scaled the sides of stately homes, told into
:23:54. > :23:59.boutiques and let across the roofs of Mayfair to gain access to gain
:24:00. > :24:07.access to the treasures of the rich. He was accessed from his -- he was
:24:08. > :24:12.active from his teams to his 60s. His real name was Peter Craig
:24:13. > :24:18.Dalston. He was a public schoolboy, cut from a different cloth than the
:24:19. > :24:22.London underworld he was to become a part of. He claimed to have relieved
:24:23. > :24:32.Alistair Kratz, celebrities and high-end stores of some ?13 million
:24:33. > :24:40.worth of jewellery and luxury goods. Scott was so choosy, some of the
:24:41. > :24:46.upper said it was an insult not to be robbed by him. It is my life's
:24:47. > :24:51.work. He was lauded for his death-defying ability to climb up to
:24:52. > :24:56.a high window or through a skylight. But to the law-abiding, his moral
:24:57. > :25:07.compass pointed south. All agreed he had panache. He bought a new suit
:25:08. > :25:13.for each job, dressing for the job. He said he was nothing more than a
:25:14. > :25:19.dishonest window cleaner, but he had a high opinion of himself. He would
:25:20. > :25:24.compare himself to the champion jockey, Leicester bigot. He said,
:25:25. > :25:32.when he threw his leg over a horse, you could see the magic. When I get
:25:33. > :25:38.my leg up a drain pipe, you can see the magic two. A police officer was
:25:39. > :25:44.on the beat during his heyday. How did he operate? He was unusual as a
:25:45. > :25:55.burglar. There were only three or four people who would specialise in
:25:56. > :26:00.stealing from film stars. He would know who was going to London
:26:01. > :26:06.parties. He would know the best time to burgle. Perhaps Scott's most
:26:07. > :26:12.notorious job was assessed from the Italian Hollywood star some viola
:26:13. > :26:20.rent. -- Sophia Lorentz. She was filming at Elstree. Scott had read
:26:21. > :26:25.that she never travelled without a considerable collection of
:26:26. > :26:28.jewellery. She went to her exclusive lodgings to unburden her of it.
:26:29. > :26:35.Audacious and well-planned, he would soon come to regret this particular
:26:36. > :26:42.theft. He had met his match. In an interview after review -- in an
:26:43. > :26:49.interview after the robbery, she said, I come from a long line of
:26:50. > :26:54.gypsies. You will have no luck. Scott was watching the interview and
:26:55. > :27:01.admitted it sent a shiver down his spine. Her Gypsy purse -- curse
:27:02. > :27:07.apparently came true. He lost every penny he had in a casino.
:27:08. > :27:12.Undeterred, and between spells in prison, his lofty crimewave
:27:13. > :27:17.continued. His targets remained aristocrats and film stars. But when
:27:18. > :27:23.he burgled Judy Garland he claimed to find no ruby slippers or
:27:24. > :27:28.emeralds, so left empty-handed. As this figure began to spread, it was
:27:29. > :27:34.age, not the police that caught up with him. What happens to a cat
:27:35. > :27:38.burglar when he realises he is an old dog? Crime reporter Duncan
:27:39. > :27:45.Campbell became friends with Scott in his final years. He lost all his
:27:46. > :27:51.money. He was down on his luck. He lived on this very tough estate. It
:27:52. > :27:56.was quite a grim end, compared to what he had once had. When he was
:27:57. > :28:01.described as a master criminal, 40 years in prison, four marriages that
:28:02. > :28:07.ended unhappily in one way or another, I think he would confirm
:28:08. > :28:12.that he felt he was an idiot. But he has had his excitement. Theft and
:28:13. > :28:18.crime are nothing to celebrate, but the story of a thief and his lonely
:28:19. > :28:24.and as a morality tale worth telling.
:28:25. > :28:31.Are you ready for a good link? From gems to Jimmys. We asked to see you
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:28:41. > :28:45.Patrick in Scotland. Russ, who have you got? Sarah Leach sent in this
:28:46. > :28:52.photo of herself and Dave in New York City. We have had loads and we
:28:53. > :28:58.have been inundated. Thanks, Russ. You can see Boomers tomorrow night
:28:59. > :29:04.on BBC One at 9pm. Before that on The One Show, Vernon Kay and Anita
:29:05. > :29:07.Rani will take over the reins. They will be joined by my fellow Tumblers
:29:08. > :29:16.Louis Smith and Nadia We've got factory boys and butchers'
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:29:21. > :29:26.If you go back you'll die!