:00:17. > :00:22.Hello and welcome to the one show with Matt Baker and Alex Jones.
:00:23. > :00:27.Tonight was my ghost -- Guest inadvertently made publishing
:00:28. > :00:30.history when 40 pages of his autobiography were mistakenly
:00:31. > :00:35.included in the new Bridget Jones book. He's still getting over the
:00:36. > :00:41.shock of looking up with a toy boy and all those Brazilians. It is
:00:42. > :00:48.certainly Jason! -- Sir David Jason. How wonderful to have you here. And
:00:49. > :00:55.more news, one of your greatest ever TV shows, Open All Hours, is about
:00:56. > :01:07.to grace our screens again with the Christmas special. So the story
:01:08. > :01:11.goes. We are delighted. The BBC asked me if that was something like
:01:12. > :01:16.to do and asset, yes. They said, have you any ideas? I always not,
:01:17. > :01:23.what happens to Granville when Arkwright died? And so why mention
:01:24. > :01:30.this, and they said, why do you not -- why not two Roy, the original
:01:31. > :01:33.writer, and he said, that is so strange, because that has always
:01:34. > :01:39.worried him. So Roy and I've got together. Has something been
:01:40. > :01:43.penned? Not at the time. But we worked together and then he wrote
:01:44. > :01:49.the script. And all I could say, it is exactly, it is like it has never
:01:50. > :01:54.gone away. Except we will not have the governor, and you will just have
:01:55. > :01:59.to put up with me has Granville. And Granville has a little assistant,
:02:00. > :02:06.and cannot tell you why or how that happens because that will spoil the
:02:07. > :02:12.plot. And the shop is still there, the roads are still there. In
:02:13. > :02:14.Doncaster? In Doncaster. It is going to be a wonderful trip down memory
:02:15. > :02:22.lane for all those people who loved the old-fashioned show. It is more
:02:23. > :02:29.of the same. Great news. And you have not cast the assistant,
:02:30. > :02:32.or the errand boy. So we thought we would help you out and ask whether
:02:33. > :02:37.anybody at home thinks they would make a good Granville. So put on
:02:38. > :02:42.your tank top if you do, put on a flat cap and brush your bicycle.
:02:43. > :02:47.Sending your pictures. We cannot guarantee you will get the role, but
:02:48. > :02:50.we will do our best! You cannot say fairer than that. We will see what
:02:51. > :02:53.happens. Earlier today, the Welsh National
:02:54. > :02:59.Coal Mining Memorial was unveiled on the site of the disused colliery in
:03:00. > :03:06.Senghenydd in South Wales. The memorial pays tribute to the
:03:07. > :03:10.thousands who have died in mining accidents in Wales. Joe Crowley
:03:11. > :03:13.recalls the fateful day where a single blast shook an entire
:03:14. > :03:19.community. In the early 20th century, Cole was
:03:20. > :03:23.king. Mining it was dangerous. Working underground in the dust and
:03:24. > :03:29.the darkness with the e-commerce and threat of a tunnel collapsing, it
:03:30. > :03:34.could never be without risk. -- the constant threat. But one community
:03:35. > :03:41.in South Wales knows the price of coal more than any other. In 1913,
:03:42. > :03:45.something happens in the small town of Senghenydd that would cast a
:03:46. > :03:50.permanent shadow over the town. I've come to a nearby museum where the
:03:51. > :03:57.curator is taking me on a trip back in time. So this is how men would
:03:58. > :04:03.have started the working day? This is the descent into the mine. The
:04:04. > :04:07.cage would be jam-packed with men and boys as young as 14. And what
:04:08. > :04:13.would they be wearing? Stout boots, and that is it. The other safety
:04:14. > :04:21.gear is the flame safety lamp. And it was important that they had that
:04:22. > :04:29.because it was a gassy pit. Here we are. How deep were the men working?
:04:30. > :04:36.2000 foot deep. You are very deep underground. And the conditions?
:04:37. > :04:43.Dusty. Even here, when we not cutting call. It was even worse at
:04:44. > :04:46.Senghenydd. With coal dust, which is explosive, of course. They were
:04:47. > :04:56.supposed to have watered the dust down. But they made a half hearted
:04:57. > :04:58.attempt at it. At 810 PM, the sound that the women of Senghenydd had
:04:59. > :05:04.feared echoed through the valleys. It was a huge blast. It had to be
:05:05. > :05:09.across a spark. It said of the methane gas which blew up the dust.
:05:10. > :05:23.And any fireball went through the pit. It was hell. -- and a fireball.
:05:24. > :05:31.I want my father, I want my father. Went down the pits and felt a man,
:05:32. > :05:41.and then went unconscious. How many of you came out of the pit alive?
:05:42. > :05:47.18, 18 of us. 439 dead. Wives and mothers waited for weeks at the head
:05:48. > :05:51.of the pit but in vain. 542 children were left without fathers. It was
:05:52. > :05:59.the worst mining disaster in British history. When you think of the lives
:06:00. > :06:03.lost, it would be noticeable in a big city but in a community of this
:06:04. > :06:12.size, it must have been devastating. Hatay is only a small village. --
:06:13. > :06:17.Senghenydd. Some descendants of the victims still live in the street.
:06:18. > :06:21.From what have been told, there were five coffins in this particular
:06:22. > :06:28.room. Five coffins? My great-grandfather and his sons and
:06:29. > :06:33.two lodgers. How would your grandmother have coped with that?
:06:34. > :06:41.Terribly. It is hard to comprehend. My grandmother had nine children.
:06:42. > :06:45.And they all missed him. Sad times. At the disaster, there was an
:06:46. > :06:50.inquest. Was anyone found to be at fault? The company was found to be
:06:51. > :06:57.at fault but it was decided that the manager would be finds ?24 and the
:06:58. > :07:02.company ?10, despite the fact that 500 lives were lost. It is
:07:03. > :07:05.laughable. There was no thought of life. It was just the thought of
:07:06. > :07:14.getting the callout. Make the boss some money. -- get the coal out. If
:07:15. > :07:19.the company had fitted a fan capable of reversing the airflow in the pit,
:07:20. > :07:27.as they were supposed to have done, the funeral procession might not
:07:28. > :07:30.have been so long. The people of Hatay -- Senghenydd have never
:07:31. > :07:36.forgotten the tragedy that stained their time with blood. The little --
:07:37. > :07:40.little remains of the pit of these days. 100 years on, this concrete
:07:41. > :07:46.slab covers the shaft that once took the miners 2000 feet below. It may
:07:47. > :07:57.be sealed off, but the story of the men who died here lives on.
:07:58. > :08:03.Such a tragic story. And this is the scene in Senghenydd earlier today.
:08:04. > :08:05.The memorial pays tribute to the thousands who died in Welsh mines
:08:06. > :08:09.over the years. It is a lovely memorial.
:08:10. > :08:14.David, we were just saying there that you have Welsh heritage on your
:08:15. > :08:21.mothers side. What a jerk other who arranged -- cousin -- was it your
:08:22. > :08:25.cousin who arranged for you to go down a mine? We have this photo.
:08:26. > :08:31.What a great picture. My cousin was a Jack the Lad. My mother came from
:08:32. > :08:41.North Wales and the family was from south Wales. But my cousin, my
:08:42. > :08:49.mother's brother's son, look at that, Jack the lad. You don't wear a
:08:50. > :08:56.cap like that any more, do you? ! The story was, he arranged for us to
:08:57. > :09:02.go down the pit, which we did. But the bit of the story was that what
:09:03. > :09:06.we got -- when we got into the mine shaft, it was so black and you were
:09:07. > :09:09.not allowed to take matches and lighters or anything down, but you
:09:10. > :09:13.could put your hand on your eyeball, and it was so black you
:09:14. > :09:19.could not see your hand. Because of that, when we came up, it seems to
:09:20. > :09:26.take hours. And when we got out of it, John said, we will have to go
:09:27. > :09:31.and see the wind, who winds you up and down, and when we got into where
:09:32. > :09:35.he was, he was following about. And we said, what are you laughing at?
:09:36. > :09:42.And he said, you were going up and down like you you! -- like a yo-yo.
:09:43. > :09:48.He was so clever that he could take us up, slowly break, and then drops
:09:49. > :09:53.down, and we did not know we were moving. But it was a great
:09:54. > :10:00.experience. They had pit ponies down there. That is the way that life
:10:01. > :10:02.was. It was cold and wet. As you would expect, you talk a lot about
:10:03. > :10:07.your family appearance in your autobiography. And you speak a lot
:10:08. > :10:13.about your dad as being the original showman. He was a fishmonger? Is
:10:14. > :10:19.that where you got it from, do you think? I think I would probably have
:10:20. > :10:28.to say that some of it would be genetic. Because there are certain
:10:29. > :10:32.genes you pass on. And I would say that my father was not very funny or
:10:33. > :10:38.gifted at home but when he was in his shop and went there many times,
:10:39. > :10:41.he used to really enjoy the customers, and customers would come
:10:42. > :10:43.from miles around to be served by him because he would take the
:10:44. > :10:46.customers, and customers would come from miles around to be served by
:10:47. > :10:48.him because he would take them idiot of them and they loved it. His
:10:49. > :10:52.banter? His banter. Maybe a little bit has rubbed off. And you have had
:10:53. > :10:56.a hard life to start with. You really tried all sorts of things.
:10:57. > :11:02.And I've found it fascinating that you started and allocations
:11:03. > :11:08.business. I've served and tradition as an elocution. And then when it
:11:09. > :11:14.finally came to giving me my tools, and making me into an elocution,
:11:15. > :11:21.which would upgrade my salary, they turned around and said was
:11:22. > :11:25.redundant. -- and electricity. I am not sure whether it was because I
:11:26. > :11:28.was an awful electricity and, or what, but redundancy is not a new
:11:29. > :11:33.thing. My friend and I were made redundant and because there was no
:11:34. > :11:39.work about, we were forced, in a way, to start a business on our own.
:11:40. > :11:44.And we have your business card, a picture of it. We were wondering,
:11:45. > :11:48.what does the J stand for? Many people would think it was Jason but
:11:49. > :11:53.that is not the case. John. I'd guess John. David John White,
:11:54. > :11:59.guaranteed, I said. Give her the money, Barney! I have some questions
:12:00. > :12:05.about rewiring if you can hang about later. For you, I will do it for
:12:06. > :12:09.nothing! You gave yourself five years to make it in the acting
:12:10. > :12:14.world. And about two and a half years in, this is the gig that you
:12:15. > :12:17.got. The utensils dipped into the food
:12:18. > :12:36.and with a graceful sweep, the correct amount is carried to the
:12:37. > :12:43.appropriate place. No. No. No. Do not adjust your TV set. It is very
:12:44. > :12:51.Monty Python -esque. That is where Monty Python started. The three
:12:52. > :12:58.lads, as they were there, fully grown men now, Michael Pailin, Terry
:12:59. > :13:04.Jones and Eric idle. They came from the Cambridge Footlights. And they
:13:05. > :13:10.got this contract with me to do a children's show called 'Do not
:13:11. > :13:14.Adjust Your Set'. After we did a couple of series, they found that
:13:15. > :13:21.the material they were presenting was getting cut and edited, and they
:13:22. > :13:25.found that their material, why was it being cut, they wanted to know.
:13:26. > :13:29.They said it was no suitable for children so they got frustrated, as
:13:30. > :13:37.artists. And they said, look, either we get a late night shows we can use
:13:38. > :13:43.our material, or you off. And the head of comedy at the time said, no,
:13:44. > :13:46.you are the best children's show that we have had in years. We want
:13:47. > :13:52.to keep you. So the lads said, sorry, we are going. And the rest is
:13:53. > :13:57.history. And we will pick up that story in a moment. But before that,
:13:58. > :14:00.what is more likely to get on your nerves? People who deliberately
:14:01. > :14:06.dropped litter or cancel staff who snoop on the public?
:14:07. > :14:15.A tough call. Tony lies the reports. -- Tony Livesey.
:14:16. > :14:20.Most people are usually quite happy to be pictured in their local paper
:14:21. > :14:24.but the people of Preston can be forgiven for turning the page with a
:14:25. > :14:34.little trepidation. That is because it features a rogues gallery of
:14:35. > :14:42.litter bugs, all tracked by CCTV. Could the man from TV who has
:14:43. > :14:47.dropped his paper please pick it up? This is pressing cancel's litter
:14:48. > :14:51.education officer. The voice of the loud-hailer and the woman who came
:14:52. > :14:55.up with the newspaper shaming idea. How do people react to it? Do they
:14:56. > :15:03.not feel it is intrusive, the fact you are sat in here watching them in
:15:04. > :15:06.a private moment? We would move around constantly, we would not look
:15:07. > :15:11.at one person. We're just keeping an eye in that particular area. If we
:15:12. > :15:15.catch somebody littering, then we are able to do something about that.
:15:16. > :15:19.So you publicly humiliate them. It is a bit embarrassing, but you have
:15:20. > :15:23.to remember that dropping litter is against the law. They can be fined
:15:24. > :15:27.for it. So usually, it is a fair cop. We are not really trying to
:15:28. > :15:34.necessarily catch people and find them. This is about education. --
:15:35. > :15:42.fine them. This is translated on the ground in the amount of litter we
:15:43. > :15:45.pick up. There is a penalty of ?80 for anybody found guilty of
:15:46. > :15:52.littering, or ?50 of paid within seven days. But since April, the
:15:53. > :15:55.council has only issued 15 fines. This stinky pile of rubbish is the
:15:56. > :16:00.total amount of litter collected just yesterday across Preston by the
:16:01. > :16:07.city's 50 strong team. Each year, they picked up around 2200 tonnes of
:16:08. > :16:13.litter off the street. Imagine this lot multiplied by 365. Tommy is
:16:14. > :16:18.another member of the team, a litter supervisor. He is armed with all the
:16:19. > :16:26.tools of the trade and a bit more besides. So you have got a secret
:16:27. > :16:32.weapon? You look like a Dalek. And it records litter louts? It does.
:16:33. > :16:38.People still deny it. I don't give them the opportunity. It is only
:16:39. > :16:46.when you refuse to put it in the bin that I will issue a penalty. Are you
:16:47. > :16:57.a litter spy? I do not watch people. I do my job. It is only if I catch
:16:58. > :17:00.them. This is where some of the footage from the litter team ends
:17:01. > :17:05.up, in the offices of the local paper. It takes still frames to
:17:06. > :17:09.create its rogues' gallery and then invites readers to call the council
:17:10. > :17:15.if they recognise anyone. Critics might say you are jumping to the
:17:16. > :17:20.council's tune? The problem is costing the council ?2 million a
:17:21. > :17:25.year to tackle. If we can help highlight the issue, that can only
:17:26. > :17:30.be a good thing. You have caught five people through this. Are you
:17:31. > :17:35.doing it for the greater good or just to sell papers? If it was just
:17:36. > :17:39.to sell papers, it would be more of a name and shame will stop that is
:17:40. > :17:44.not something we are doing, because we want to raise awareness. I must
:17:45. > :17:49.admit that when we were there, the streets did not look too bad and we
:17:50. > :17:54.did not see anyone dropping litter. So maybe the surveillance tactics
:17:55. > :18:00.are working. It smacks of Big Brother and dirty tricks. But if
:18:01. > :18:08.necessary, I agree with it. That would be so embarrassing. Imagine
:18:09. > :18:12.everyone seeing that. If people don't have the sense to put it in a
:18:13. > :18:18.bin, maybe they need to be taught to do it. After today, I can work a
:18:19. > :18:22.litter picker like a pair of jobs dicks, and I have a sense of the
:18:23. > :18:25.battle to keep rubbish off these streets. The wall of shame in the
:18:26. > :18:32.local paper is not everybody's cup of tea, but most people I spoke to
:18:33. > :18:38.thought it was a price worth paying. In Preston, at least, litter does
:18:39. > :18:44.seem to be a. # I always feel like somebody's watching me.
:18:45. > :18:47.That is going to get people talking, but it is sad that it has come to
:18:48. > :18:57.this. Did you know that more people drop litter than don't? 62% of
:18:58. > :19:01.people drop litter. Preston differentiate between those who
:19:02. > :19:04.deliberately drop it on those who accidentally drop it. Sometimes
:19:05. > :19:09.things drop out of your pocket, but they target those who throw it. If
:19:10. > :19:15.it drops out of your pocket accidentally, perhaps you don't know
:19:16. > :19:19.it has gone. But why is it that you can take a packet of cigarettes or
:19:20. > :19:23.sweets, and you nurture it and care for it and you put it carefully back
:19:24. > :19:29.in your pocket, but when it comes empty, you throw it away? What is
:19:30. > :19:37.the difference? Going back to that film, does that make arrest in the
:19:38. > :19:41.most aggressive council? They are not the only once. Darlington have
:19:42. > :19:47.fined 600 people after naming and shaming. Austin in Lincolnshire have
:19:48. > :19:53.been doing it on and off since 2004 -- Boston in Lincolnshire. They have
:19:54. > :19:58.had a 50% success rate, so much so that last summer, they turned their
:19:59. > :20:07.attention to dog poo. Don't look at me! They found 40 piles in a local
:20:08. > :20:14.park, so they spray-painted around it, and there has a mode that back
:20:15. > :20:20.been a marked decrease. In the US, one judge has made a name for
:20:21. > :20:26.herself publicly humiliating people who have done wrong. Her name is
:20:27. > :20:35.judge Pinkey Carr. She felt there was a lack of Amores among people.
:20:36. > :20:40.For example, one bus driver, she made her band in the street with a
:20:41. > :20:44.sign saying "Only an idiot drives on the sidewalk to avoid a school bus".
:20:45. > :20:49.In another case, a guy was made to stand with a sign saying, I
:20:50. > :20:54.apologise to all police officers for being an idiot, calling 911 and
:20:55. > :20:58.threatening to kill you. There are other ways of looking at this as
:20:59. > :21:02.well? Weak the theory is that we all want to conform, we just need a push
:21:03. > :21:06.in the right direction. The government have a behavioural
:21:07. > :21:12.insight team. They call it a node unit. Loft insulation was heavily
:21:13. > :21:15.subsidised and people were not taking it up, so this team came up
:21:16. > :21:20.with the idea of saying that the team who installed loft insulation
:21:21. > :21:26.would clear your attic first, and then people took it up. Students in
:21:27. > :21:33.Cardiff painted bin feet heading to the bins, and litter dropping in the
:21:34. > :21:37.bin went up. Now, as we have said, Open All Hours is returning for a
:21:38. > :21:42.one-off business special, so last week, we asked One Show viewers who
:21:43. > :21:46.run family businesses like Arkwright's to tell us their
:21:47. > :21:52.stories. I'm Dave, and this is my son Andrew. The shop was started in
:21:53. > :22:00.1934 by my father and his brother-in-law. I have been here 53
:22:01. > :22:08.years. Andrew joined in 1992. We came here in January 1972. I made it
:22:09. > :22:13.my home will stop the day I got this sweet shop 20 years ago, I was so
:22:14. > :22:23.excited that I had got my own sweet shop. It meant everything. We were
:22:24. > :22:26.like kids in a sweet shop! It is good working with your family.
:22:27. > :22:30.Sometimes we have disagreements about parts of the business.
:22:31. > :22:39.Normally, a consensus comes about and I get my way. He tries to stay
:22:40. > :22:45.traditional. If you tried to modernise anything, shall we have a
:22:46. > :22:50.website, stuck in the dark ages. I feel guilty, because if I am shocked
:22:51. > :22:56.at night or on a Sunday and I hear a car stopped on the gravel, I think,
:22:57. > :23:00.that is a customer I have lost. 's opening hours are bone of
:23:01. > :23:05.contention. She sometimes opens at six in the morning. I understand her
:23:06. > :23:12.guilty conscience. The customers and the shop are all a big family. My
:23:13. > :23:17.husband, even on his funeral day, I would not shut. He died of cancer.
:23:18. > :23:23.My friend looked after the shop because if I think a shop is open,
:23:24. > :23:29.it should be open all the time. It is such a special shop. We have a
:23:30. > :23:35.passion for it. It is our interest, and the love of the people we deal
:23:36. > :23:43.with. 18 customer comes in, I say, have you tried everything? Someone
:23:44. > :23:49.has got to do it. The local children are used to how we serve the sweets.
:23:50. > :23:53.They are always disappointed when they go away on holiday. One child
:23:54. > :23:57.came back and said, I am so glad to be back. She said, we had to go to a
:23:58. > :24:04.supermarket to buy our sweets, and we couldn't pick and choose! If you
:24:05. > :24:12.try and change anything, he is becoming like Arkwright, tight and
:24:13. > :24:16.mean. Ilott of people look at the ceiling and think it could do with a
:24:17. > :24:29.coat of paint. I still think that is our era. Like I say, stuck in the
:24:30. > :24:36.dark ages. Wonderful. Every night after work, he calls into an
:24:37. > :24:41.Ironmonger's. Earlier, we asked for potential sidekicks for your new
:24:42. > :24:49.series. Cathy thinks her dog Baxter has what it takes. That could be
:24:50. > :24:57.interesting. But not practical. This is a good one. Perfect. Johnny has
:24:58. > :25:09.already got the outfit. And he has got the backdrop as well. This is
:25:10. > :25:15.the best one. I want him in my shop. Little five-month-old Lucas, from
:25:16. > :25:21.Rotherham. He would BAA to the shop. So how did you get the role of
:25:22. > :25:28.Granville? Well, through Humphrey Barclay, who found me at the end of
:25:29. > :25:32.the peering Bournemouth, he then went off later on to direct Ronnie
:25:33. > :25:41.Barker in a series called Hark At Barker. And there was a series of
:25:42. > :25:46.sketches. Ronnie said that in this particular sketch, he wanted
:25:47. > :25:49.somebody that could come in, and Ronnie's Richter was eating bananas
:25:50. > :25:55.and throwing a banana skin down, and he wanted somebody who could come in
:25:56. > :26:04.and as he went out, do a pratfall. I had to do about half a dozen
:26:05. > :26:11.pratfalls. Also, I got on well with one knee. -- with Ronnie. He then
:26:12. > :26:17.did another series where he played Lord Russell, and he wanted somebody
:26:18. > :26:23.to lay the 100-year-old gardener. So because I had worked with Ronnie in
:26:24. > :26:29.that sketch, he said, what about that QWERTY person who falls over a
:26:30. > :26:36.lot? So they asked me on and I said yeah, because I wanted to work with
:26:37. > :26:38.Ronnie. In your book, you depict the relationship between you
:26:39. > :26:43.beautifully. And he gave you a job on the two Ronnies, but we didn't
:26:44. > :26:51.see you on screen, because you were the Phantom raspberry blower.
:26:52. > :26:56.Unbelievable. And by your own reckoning, you are one of the
:26:57. > :27:00.world's best blowers of raspberries. There aren't many of us left. But
:27:01. > :27:06.can you recognise your own raspberries from other raspberries?
:27:07. > :27:12.Here is raspberry one. RASPBERRY BLOWS. . And the second
:27:13. > :27:22.one. RASPBERRY BLOWS. On the third
:27:23. > :27:29.raspberry. I would say number two. You are right. This is how it looked
:27:30. > :27:44.on the telly. RASPBERRY BLOWS.
:27:45. > :27:54.What was that? ! And Ronnie used to produce raspberries as well. He
:27:55. > :28:00.wanted raspberries blown to the 1812 overture or for the end. And I said,
:28:01. > :28:06.I can't do that. He said, yes you can. You get in the booth, we will
:28:07. > :28:11.both have the cans on, let them have the 1812 overture in one ear, and I
:28:12. > :28:21.will conduct you. So outside the box, Ronnie is going...
:28:22. > :28:28.RASPBERRY BLOWS. . So I was watching Ronnie, and he was giving it
:28:29. > :28:33.everything like Sir Malcolm Sargent. It is all in the book, and you
:28:34. > :28:41.really get the sense... There are so many people bringing out his books,
:28:42. > :28:50.and you're one is called Our My Life, but it really was. Lovely to
:28:51. > :28:54.see you again. Tomorrow night, we will be joined by Gloria Estefan. Is
:28:55. > :28:56.she bringing the Miami Sound Machine? You will have to wait and
:28:57. > :29:02.see. Good night.