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:00:15. > :00:17.Hello and welcome to The One Show with Matt Baker

:00:18. > :00:23.Tonight we're renaming the studio - The Hotel One Show.

:00:24. > :00:29.We're all-inclusive and we've got a full schedule of activities.

:00:30. > :00:32.Andy Kershaw is in the Hotel Lounge to tell us about the time

:00:33. > :00:37.Jimi Hendrix rocked a sleepy spa town in Yorkshire.

:00:38. > :00:41.Lucy Siegel is in the dining room to tell us why poultry farmers have

:00:42. > :00:46.And providing the entertainment in the ballroom tonight is an award

:00:47. > :00:49.winning songwriter and producer who has worked with everyone

:00:50. > :00:54.Naughty Boy is here and he'll be performing his latest single,

:00:55. > :00:58.featuring Kyla, before we have to hand in our keys and check out.

:00:59. > :01:00.In fact, the only thing we're missing are some hotel

:01:01. > :01:03.guests but they should be arriving any minute.

:01:04. > :01:05.They're the latest stars to appear in the Real Marigold Hotel,

:01:06. > :01:07.which was last year's unexpected hit series -

:01:08. > :01:16.about eight famous faces experiencing retirement in India.

:01:17. > :01:19.Please welcome Lionel Blair, Paul Nicholas, Dennis Taylor

:01:20. > :01:48.Have a seat! Lovely to see you all. Thank you to our dancers as well.

:01:49. > :01:54.When we arrived at our hotel, that was in our hotel grounds to greet

:01:55. > :02:02.us. It gets you in the mood! This was a little more ethnic. This was

:02:03. > :02:06.popping! What is usually the first thing you do when you check into our

:02:07. > :02:12.hotel, we know that Sheila looks for a room with a big around our? And

:02:13. > :02:20.swaps of someone with an even bigger one if you're not happy! We were

:02:21. > :02:28.worried about where... Way we were going to go, so we decided to select

:02:29. > :02:39.keys. Out of a big hat! And I got the short key. It was his idea! I

:02:40. > :02:42.got into my room and there were no curtains on the ground levels are

:02:43. > :02:53.people just walk by and there was me coming... You loved it! He could

:02:54. > :02:59.have shared my room. I got the biggest room in the hotel. I left my

:03:00. > :03:05.key to the end. And I couldn't believe it, I was overlooking the

:03:06. > :03:15.swimming pool, two double beds, a bathroom, could have got everybody

:03:16. > :03:22.in it! My room was better! I had a rubber tyre and an old bath. We'll

:03:23. > :03:24.find out a lot more. We're so pleased you are all here and are

:03:25. > :03:26.looking forward to your company. Just a couple of weeks ago we took

:03:27. > :03:29.chef Michel Roux junior to task about how he was paying some

:03:30. > :03:32.of his workers less than the minimum wage -

:03:33. > :03:35.which he apologised for and put down But he's not the only high profile

:03:36. > :03:51.culprit shortchanging his staff - The national minimum wage,

:03:52. > :03:54.introduced 20 years ago and there to ensure the Ukip is lowest paid

:03:55. > :04:01.workers earn enough to live on. Today if you are over 25 the

:04:02. > :04:08.national minimum wage is ?7 20 per hour. All employers must pay their

:04:09. > :04:11.staff that by law. But the programmer can reveal exclusively to

:04:12. > :04:17.that not all companies are doing that and one of the biggest

:04:18. > :04:21.offenders is Debenhams. A recent government in the station found that

:04:22. > :04:30.Debenhams on the paid nearly 12,000 members of staff by a total of

:04:31. > :04:35.?134,000 between 2012 and 2015. It's completely unacceptable for a high

:04:36. > :04:40.street retailer with over 100 years history, with personnel and HR

:04:41. > :04:47.departments and Chief Executive is, getting it wrong on the national

:04:48. > :04:51.minimum wage. Debenhams is one of more than 350 companies are

:04:52. > :04:55.hairdressers to social care firms, were named and shamed. They are

:04:56. > :05:03.owning the work is a total of almost ?1 million. Margot James is

:05:04. > :05:06.Undersecretary at Department of business, energy and strategy who

:05:07. > :05:11.published the report. There will be a lot of attention on Debenhams,

:05:12. > :05:15.household name, this should not have happened but the important thing is

:05:16. > :05:19.there is never an excuse not to pay the minimum wage and doesn't matter

:05:20. > :05:23.how big or small your company is, you need to abide by the law. But

:05:24. > :05:28.how have suddenly companies been getting away with it without a

:05:29. > :05:33.majority of employees noticing? Perhaps it's because the minimum

:05:34. > :05:36.wage you can expect to receive has changed quite a bit in the last

:05:37. > :05:43.couple of decades. If you're 25 and above, it is gone from ?3 60 to the

:05:44. > :05:48.current ?7 20 and in April it goes up to ?7 50. So how many people

:05:49. > :05:53.actually know what over 25 's are entitled to? Do you know that for a

:05:54. > :06:08.fact? An informed guess. You're not far off. ?7 20, what do

:06:09. > :06:16.you think it should be? At least ?10! With a few notable exceptions,

:06:17. > :06:20.the majority of people don't know what the national minimum wage for

:06:21. > :06:26.over 25 uses, even though what they or their loved ones take home every

:06:27. > :06:29.month could depend on it. Those out-of-pocket Debenhams workers have

:06:30. > :06:34.been reimbursed and the retailer has been hit with a Revenue and Customs

:06:35. > :06:39.fine, so what went wrong? I have come to Debenhams HQ in central

:06:40. > :06:44.London to meet company chairman Sir Ian Cheshire. I think people would

:06:45. > :06:46.be surprised that one of the company's leading retailers is

:06:47. > :06:51.underpaying so many of its staff, failing to meet basic legal

:06:52. > :06:57.requirement, it's like sticking a discount sticker on your hardest

:06:58. > :07:01.workers. We were underpaying on an hourly rate, for some of our staff,

:07:02. > :07:04.not all of them, we have fixed that error since it came out of the audit

:07:05. > :07:09.said Melbourne today is out-of-pocket and we have fixed the

:07:10. > :07:11.systems that led to that problem. Was the Chief Executive affected,

:07:12. > :07:18.the chairman, were you affected by it? I wasn't at the company nor was

:07:19. > :07:24.the executive, only the people who were on an hourly calculation from

:07:25. > :07:28.?1, underpaid to a maximum of 150, I don't want to distract from the fact

:07:29. > :07:32.we made a mistake. You weren't aware until HMRC put it to your attention,

:07:33. > :07:37.how many people are working payroll at Debenhams? You have broken the

:07:38. > :07:41.law. It's a shame the technical error happened but it wasn't

:07:42. > :07:44.intentional. How does it make you feel knowing that this technical

:07:45. > :07:49.error only affect those who are paid the very least? You never want to

:07:50. > :07:52.make an error that affect any of your staff, with a high paid or

:07:53. > :07:59.low-paid, we don't want to be in that position again because we value

:08:00. > :08:03.our teams. So the chairman of Debenhams put it down to a technical

:08:04. > :08:07.error but that doesn't mean they didn't break the law on minimum wage

:08:08. > :08:13.and short-change 12,000 of their employees. It does make you think

:08:14. > :08:18.maybe it can happen at Debenhams, where else has been going on?

:08:19. > :08:20.We're joined by Matt Allwright who is here with a list

:08:21. > :08:24.of businesses who have under paid their staff.

:08:25. > :08:30.Was published at 7pm tonight, Debenhams at the top, because of the

:08:31. > :08:39.amounts of money involved. But by no means the only big-name that is out

:08:40. > :08:50.there. Peacocks, KFC, Supper, 15,000 workers affected in total, underpaid

:08:51. > :08:54.by nearly ?1 million. -- Subway. Seven of the Subway branches where

:08:55. > :08:59.people were found to be underpaid, they say the stories independently

:09:00. > :09:03.owned and operated by franchisees who set wages, they take it

:09:04. > :09:07.seriously and have spoken to all of them and reimbursed employees and

:09:08. > :09:11.put the matter right. Peacocks say they don't underpay their staff is

:09:12. > :09:18.the people who are being paid monthly, sometimes less, over year

:09:19. > :09:21.balances out, and KFC say it is an administrative error, they are sorry

:09:22. > :09:26.but pleased to say it has been resolved and won't happen again.

:09:27. > :09:31.They aren't the only ones. It's a long list. Businesses of all sizes,

:09:32. > :09:37.put names and some smaller businesses. Some sectors worse than

:09:38. > :09:44.others? Hospitality is come top of the list, pubs and clubs, drinking,

:09:45. > :09:48.a lot of casual workers, almost a quarter of ?1 million underpaid to

:09:49. > :09:53.five to three workers in that sector. How has this information

:09:54. > :09:59.come to light? From complaint made to ACAS, a lot of body who deal with

:10:00. > :10:03.problems and disputes in the workplace. A Casio about them first

:10:04. > :10:09.then pass them on to HMRC tax revenue, to investigate and take

:10:10. > :10:13.action when they had investigated. One of these cases that were shut,

:10:14. > :10:16.done and dusted, they have 1500 cases still open that they are

:10:17. > :10:21.investigating the clearly is a lot more to come. What are the reasons

:10:22. > :10:25.the companies are giving for not paying out the minimum wage? There

:10:26. > :10:31.is a classic one I've reported on which is tips. Tips making up

:10:32. > :10:37.minimum wage. Question once and other places thinking it's

:10:38. > :10:46.acceptable to do that. That's rubbish you don't tip somebody at

:10:47. > :10:54.KFC or at Subway! Get a grip! You are not part of the investigation! I

:10:55. > :11:08.could be! You would be so good on Sheila! -- undercover. This is a

:11:09. > :11:16.crack team! Next time will do the programme could be you can come on.

:11:17. > :11:18.There are some bizarre excuses as well, people are saying, we wouldn't

:11:19. > :11:25.pay this post minimum wage because they weren't very good at the job.

:11:26. > :11:30.All they only make the tea and sweep up. It doesn't make any difference,

:11:31. > :11:36.it's the law. It is minimum wage, any job you are doing, if you are

:11:37. > :11:38.doing it, ?7 20, right now. For any worker feels they might not be

:11:39. > :11:43.getting what they should be, what steps should they take and how

:11:44. > :11:46.should they contact? In the first instance, get your payslips together

:11:47. > :11:53.over as longer period as can, then the government, on its website has a

:11:54. > :11:57.thing called check your pay, to you can put in the payslip, details

:11:58. > :12:02.into. It will work out whether you are being paid by the hour, the

:12:03. > :12:11.national minimum wage for over 25 's,... Is that going up? You are

:12:12. > :12:18.better than me! April the 1st, as she listens, up to ?7 50. So again,

:12:19. > :12:27.when the moment comes, check the payslip afterwards as well. Check it

:12:28. > :12:32.now! Call Sheila! Or you can check the website. Speak to your

:12:33. > :12:36.colleagues, also you can go to ACAS and they will take it further. While

:12:37. > :12:43.Schiller will send you a personal link!

:12:44. > :12:45.Whilst our Marigold Hotel guests have been exploring more exotic

:12:46. > :12:47.retirement options - we've packed Andy Kershaw off

:12:48. > :12:52.Not as a resident though - it's all to find out about the time

:12:53. > :13:05.it was rocked to its foundations by a legendary guitarist.

:13:06. > :13:10.50 years ago, one of the most implausible gigs in rock 'n' roll

:13:11. > :13:18.history took place here in the gym New York to Dale spa town of

:13:19. > :13:24.Bulkeley. -- three. And this is where it happened. On Sunday March

:13:25. > :13:35.12th 1967, it was the Troutbeck hotel, the music club. These days,

:13:36. > :13:40.it's a residential care home. Hardly likely location for a man who took

:13:41. > :13:43.electric guitar playing beyond the boundaries of anyone's imagination.

:13:44. > :13:51.It may be a haven of serenity but when Hendrix played Troutbeck, it

:13:52. > :13:56.ended in chaos and farce. People started to riot, take pictures off

:13:57. > :14:03.the wall. I saw a chair fly through the air and land on the stage. Very

:14:04. > :14:06.frightening for a 16-year-old! We have gathered together a handful of

:14:07. > :14:09.concertgoers from that infamous night and brought them back to share

:14:10. > :14:18.their experiences. Has it changed much? Yes, it was 50 years ago! Show

:14:19. > :14:24.was where it all happened. This was where we paid ten shillings. It was

:14:25. > :14:30.quite a lot of money for a gig then. Two paper round!

:14:31. > :14:42.What was the atmosphere like when you got in here? It was so crowded.

:14:43. > :14:49.This was the entrance. This is where the ballroom was. All that's left is

:14:50. > :14:54.this corridor. When he came on the stage, it was deafening. I was right

:14:55. > :15:00.at the front. I was able to touch him practically. The unknown Jimi

:15:01. > :15:05.Hendrix had been spotted by the promoter in a London nightclub. I

:15:06. > :15:10.thought, I've never seen anything like him. He was dressed like

:15:11. > :15:16.everybody knows Jimi Hendrix used to dress like. I thought, I've got to

:15:17. > :15:21.book this guy. He could have been an opera singer for all I knew. Stuart

:15:22. > :15:26.got lucky, Jimi Hendrix hit the top ten with his first single and

:15:27. > :15:32.excited music lovers streamed into the small venue. Never seen so many

:15:33. > :15:38.teenagers in one place before, not in Ilkley. Very loud, very noisy.

:15:39. > :15:43.Crammed in like sardines, you couldn't move. A massive Afro hair

:15:44. > :15:49.cut. You weren't used to seeing anyone like that. When the first

:15:50. > :15:54.chord struck up, the noise bounced around the room. It was like

:15:55. > :16:00.something you'd be looking for all your life. It got hold of you. But

:16:01. > :16:06.the joy was short lived. Only a few bars into the second song and the

:16:07. > :16:15.gig was brought to age matter called. The police came through the

:16:16. > :16:20.crowd, stopped this gig. They said you are all going to have to go

:16:21. > :16:24.home. When I looked through the ballroom, it was shoulder to

:16:25. > :16:29.shoulder. I had to push through to the edge of the stage. There was

:16:30. > :16:33.over 900 and there should have been only 250 maximum. I spoke to the

:16:34. > :16:41.chap playing the guitar. He didn't stop playing. The policeman actually

:16:42. > :16:46.turned the power sockets. When he turned round, Jimi put it back on

:16:47. > :16:54.stand-by. What was his reaction to being stopped on stage? He couldn't

:16:55. > :17:00.believe it. He just obey. He was very mild mannered and nice guy. You

:17:01. > :17:04.could tell it was going to start kicking off. A lot of people were

:17:05. > :17:08.angry and wanted their money back. They were throwing chairs and

:17:09. > :17:17.tables. The police were outnumbered. We were docking under the things

:17:18. > :17:22.coming overhead. Somebody put his knee through a picture on the wall.

:17:23. > :17:28.I was glad to be out of there. I was 15, it was quite intimidating. We

:17:29. > :17:34.grabbed the money tin and lead it. I ran away. You mention to people that

:17:35. > :17:44.Jimi Hendrix played at the Troutbeck and it's yeah, right! My son said,

:17:45. > :17:54.did you really do that? My children think I'm a little raver, I think.

:17:55. > :17:55.Judging by those fans it put a smile on their face.

:17:56. > :17:58.And Andy has managed to track down the original contract

:17:59. > :18:18.How much do you think Jimi Hendrix got paid for that gig in 1967? 120.

:18:19. > :18:23.130. He wasn't known. Ringo rented him a flat in Montague Street in

:18:24. > :18:33.1967 for ?60 per month. Good knowledge! He might have wanted to

:18:34. > :18:48.pay his rent. 15. It was quite a lot. 60 quid. He had his rent money!

:18:49. > :18:55.What years what that? 1967. I used to play piano for screaming Lord

:18:56. > :19:04.such and he paid as a fiver a night. Were you happy with that? As a kid

:19:05. > :19:09.in 1960, good money. Nothing's changed! LAUGHTER

:19:10. > :19:11.He owes you still. Your latest gig is the

:19:12. > :19:23.Real Marigold Hotel - Let's meet the rest of the team.

:19:24. > :19:32.Looking forward to finding out what more India has two offer. They must

:19:33. > :19:36.have strong flies. He's very strong. You won't get three more beautifully

:19:37. > :19:51.dressed elephants walking through. Sheila Ferguson! APPLAUSE

:19:52. > :19:59.I wonder if they got you dancing in there. It's got to come out. Lionel,

:20:00. > :20:09.you found it hard to settle, didn't you? When we first got there. To put

:20:10. > :20:18.it mildly! Was it preconceived ideas? I didn't know what to expect.

:20:19. > :20:23.It was like shantytown, I thought, when we first arrived. Until got

:20:24. > :20:34.into the hotel. The hotel was super. I thought, I can't stay here. This

:20:35. > :20:40.is not me. Where is The Iv? Day by day, I loved it. I absolutely loved

:20:41. > :20:48.it. What was it that you loved so much when you eventually came

:20:49. > :20:50.through? The way they smile at you is absolutely lovely. I don't know

:20:51. > :20:54.about the rest of India but there was every religion, there were

:20:55. > :21:03.Muslims, there were Sikhs, every religion. You were in coaching,

:21:04. > :21:19.South India. Not a problem with anything. We went to a place called

:21:20. > :21:23.due Town that was built in 1868 and had a synagogue in that was run by a

:21:24. > :21:31.Roman Catholic. The people were so nice. People invited you to their

:21:32. > :21:42.house for dinner. Dennis, what were you expecting? Well, I'd been there

:21:43. > :21:48.30 years ago. We'd played snooker there. In southern India, there were

:21:49. > :21:53.no beggars. Which was great. In Mumbai, there were a lot of beggars

:21:54. > :21:57.in the street. Where we were, there was a lot. We did a lot of yoga in

:21:58. > :22:04.the morning and the people kept smiling all the time. Have you done

:22:05. > :22:11.much yoga in the past, Dennis? I'm not really a yoga person. I used to

:22:12. > :22:20.do finger exercises. It was incredible. The jokes kept us going.

:22:21. > :22:27.We all got on so well together. We just smiled all the way. The

:22:28. > :22:31.wonderful thing about Dennis was, he came in and said, July these

:22:32. > :22:37.trousers? I had them made in 24 hours. We had them made within 24

:22:38. > :22:45.hours for next to nothing. All they did was shopping! Did you get a good

:22:46. > :22:52.sense of what it would be like to retire in India from the trip? I'm

:22:53. > :22:58.not into retiring, to be honest. I don't think any others are. I think,

:22:59. > :23:01.if you can keep going, it's as good a place to retire as anywhere, the

:23:02. > :23:14.weather is good, the people are lovely. Winners, luckily, we still

:23:15. > :23:18.got our health. Touch wood! The idea of retiring doesn't really enter my

:23:19. > :23:25.mind. Has it changed your perspective in any way? Not really.

:23:26. > :23:30.In our lives, we kind of live out of suitcases. Always on the move. For

:23:31. > :23:38.us, it's not a big deal to go to India and live with the seven other

:23:39. > :23:43.people. You said yourself, you value your own time, you are happy being

:23:44. > :23:47.by yourself. What was it like being with seven strangers? I thought it

:23:48. > :23:52.was going to be easy but because I've been living alone for eight

:23:53. > :24:02.years, 24 slash seven. I found it noisy. I found I missed the

:24:03. > :24:06.interaction with people. These guys talked me that I need emotional as

:24:07. > :24:13.well as intellectual and physical stimulation. Which we supplied!

:24:14. > :24:20.LAUGHTER Have you carried on in your life

:24:21. > :24:29.since? Absolutely. Shut up! We don't want to tell them who went to whose

:24:30. > :24:35.room. We were fortunate. We had wonderful guides, we had cars at our

:24:36. > :24:39.disposal. When people say, would July to retire there? Yes, if we had

:24:40. > :24:46.a chauffeur driven car, our guides. Wonderful. I don't think so. I

:24:47. > :24:50.remember a specific time, we ate our meals together and everybody was

:24:51. > :24:59.telling their stories. I just shut up for a change, which was unusual.

:25:00. > :25:04.After looking and listening to what everybody said, none of us is going

:25:05. > :25:09.to retire. Nobody has that mentality of retiring. If I hear the word

:25:10. > :25:16.senior citizen, I say, are you talking to me? I'm no old-age

:25:17. > :25:23.pensioner. I just don't see it. It's because society has moved away from

:25:24. > :25:27.that. You are full of energy. The programme is so beautifully paced

:25:28. > :25:32.and it is a joy to sit back and watch. Everybody will be loving it.

:25:33. > :25:35.That's the first Real Marigold Hotel.

:25:36. > :25:38.Time to say happy birthday to one of our favourite soap stars -

:25:39. > :25:41.Someone else who shows no sign of slowing down.

:25:42. > :25:44.We sent our artist Adebanji to find a suitably dotty way of honouring

:25:45. > :25:56.the launderette queen who has become a cultural icon.

:25:57. > :26:06.TV soap history has had a fair share of feisty female characters over the

:26:07. > :26:18.years. But there's only one queen of the launderette. Dot cotton is East

:26:19. > :26:20.Enders launderette running chain-smoking Gran who's been

:26:21. > :26:29.telling it like it is to the residents of Albert Square for over

:26:30. > :26:34.three decades. Now June Brown, the actress behind one of the nation's

:26:35. > :26:39.most loved characters is about to celebrate a very significant

:26:40. > :26:45.birthday. Her 90th. So, how does the June Brown At 90 - A Walford

:26:46. > :26:59.One Show pay tribute? We know nothing about dots. This artist has

:27:00. > :27:03.stuck 6 million of them onto artworks. She specialises in huge

:27:04. > :27:12.portraits using thousands of tiny dots, these vast pieces sell for up

:27:13. > :27:17.to ?20,000. This picture of Formula 1 driver Sebastian Vettel took 450

:27:18. > :27:24.hours, around nine weeks to complete. It's completely taken over

:27:25. > :27:29.my life. Up until recently when I had twin babies, I was sticking dots

:27:30. > :27:38.for between ten and 13 hours a day, six days a week. As an artist, I'm

:27:39. > :27:42.drawn to the extraordinary detail. I see an abstract explosion of dots

:27:43. > :27:47.but when I go back, that's where it comes into focus. I get definition,

:27:48. > :27:56.I think it's amazing. For something like this, one 21 and a half weeks,

:27:57. > :28:02.ten hours a just punching the dots. Once Nikki has gathered enough dots

:28:03. > :28:09.to form her image, she begins the laborious task of sticking each dot

:28:10. > :28:15.on the canvas. It seems incredibly repetitive. How do you cope? I'm

:28:16. > :28:22.addicted to doing it. I have OCD so I find it good to channel it into

:28:23. > :28:28.this. I ended up having to have shoulder surgery because I lean this

:28:29. > :28:38.way. I have six pins in my shoulder. This is a labour of love for you.

:28:39. > :28:43.But an addiction as well. Nicky's creations follow a long line of

:28:44. > :28:54.artists that working pointillism, using small dots to create an image.

:28:55. > :28:59.This painting by Georges Seurat looks like a Northern reseeding the

:29:00. > :29:04.park but you can see close-up that it is thousands of tiny

:29:05. > :29:07.brushstrokes. Your eyes we come the paint palette and it's up to you to

:29:08. > :29:12.blunt the colours together to find the image. This twist on an hundred

:29:13. > :29:18.and 30-year-old artistic movement has given it a new lease of life and

:29:19. > :29:23.allowed her to create a rather unique portrait of a unique lady.

:29:24. > :29:27.I've been working on the portrait for a few weeks and it's nearly

:29:28. > :29:36.finished. Would you like to give me a hand? Why not? Would that be OK?

:29:37. > :29:43.There is to dots there, one on top of the other. This is really fiddly.

:29:44. > :29:46.How do you manage to do this without stepping back? I'm really

:29:47. > :29:50.short-sighted which helps because I can look over my glasses and the

:29:51. > :29:55.colours blend together. I could never have my eyes fixed because it

:29:56. > :30:00.would hinder my artwork. I think, we are just about done here. There we

:30:01. > :30:04.have it and what better way to celebrate one of the country's most

:30:05. > :30:20.loved actresses. From Dot To Dot. How long did it take, bearing in

:30:21. > :30:23.mind you have got twins? Apiece this size would normally take two weeks

:30:24. > :30:34.but four weeks because we had babies. Are they all right now?

:30:35. > :30:37.Still a bit snuffly! You have worked alongside in June, we thought it

:30:38. > :30:47.would be only fitting for you to do the big reveal. She's 90, she still

:30:48. > :30:49.knew all her words, an amazing woman, great example to everyone so

:30:50. > :30:54.it gives me great pleasure to reveal it. You are going to be amazed.

:30:55. > :31:13.There it is! It's beautiful. You take a step back

:31:14. > :31:20.and it almost becomes... It's fantastic. And you did it from a

:31:21. > :31:22.photograph? Fantastic, I'm sure she would be delighted. Has she seen it

:31:23. > :31:25.yet? Not yet. We've been in touch with June

:31:26. > :31:28.and she said she's extremely grateful for this and is looking

:31:29. > :31:39.forward to receiving it I can see words, what have you been

:31:40. > :31:48.hole punching? I tried to recycle, even though a newspaper, I use bits

:31:49. > :31:53.of card lying around. Probably around 15,000, but an average piece

:31:54. > :31:57.is around 100,000 dots. It absolutely incredible. Let's give

:31:58. > :32:02.you another round of applause! And to celebrate her birthday

:32:03. > :32:06.the BBC has made a one off special programme called "June Brown At 90 -

:32:07. > :32:26.A Walford Legend" which goes out Now to a subject close to my heart,

:32:27. > :32:27.the plight of poultry farms. How much freedom should we be giving our

:32:28. > :32:36.free range chickens? Since the first confirmed case of

:32:37. > :32:41.bird flu in December last year, farmers have faced uncertainty.

:32:42. > :32:45.Death Row ordered them to have as their paltry indoors to prevent the

:32:46. > :32:53.risk of disease by keeping them away from wild birds who could be

:32:54. > :32:57.carrying avian flu. That order expires on the 28th of February in

:32:58. > :33:00.all but high risk areas. If you think farmers would be jubilant at

:33:01. > :33:06.the prospect of being able to release their flocks into out doors,

:33:07. > :33:12.except many of them are not. Alistair Price is a former Packer

:33:13. > :33:18.and wholesaler. Of his 16 farms, three are in high risk areas. Tell

:33:19. > :33:26.me about the free range system, how does it work? We have a shed, 16,000

:33:27. > :33:30.birds, during daylight hours, we open up the potholes which allows

:33:31. > :33:35.free access to them to come from the shed to the range and vice versa, on

:33:36. > :33:40.the 1st of March it is either let the birds out, with restrictions or

:33:41. > :33:45.compulsory Housing continues to stop if it does, we don't have our free

:33:46. > :33:48.range egg in the country. I would have thought would be happy you are

:33:49. > :33:54.releasing the birds because you strongly about free range. I'm not

:33:55. > :33:58.happy because it's not really going to control the disease of in the

:33:59. > :34:03.wild birds ovulation and I'm frightened about getting back into

:34:04. > :34:09.bomb paltry. So you are sending more risk averse than Defra and brought

:34:10. > :34:13.the measures in? It is my birds on the line and not my business. --

:34:14. > :34:22.also my business. This map shows restricted zones

:34:23. > :34:28.where birds will have to be kept in. Retailers pay a premium for free

:34:29. > :34:31.range eggs as do we put X laid by birds kept inside for longer than 12

:34:32. > :34:38.foods can not legally be called free range and that is a massive blow to

:34:39. > :34:43.business. David and Julie Bubba run a farm with 16,000 hens, they are

:34:44. > :34:47.confused by the measures put into place by Defra and say they are

:34:48. > :34:50.unachievable. I think the farmers have to stick together and somebody

:34:51. > :34:56.has to say, we are the free range or we are not. The security measures

:34:57. > :35:01.they are asking to be monetary are impractical. If you see areas where

:35:02. > :35:05.fault but has been on the chicken range and we are supposed to

:35:06. > :35:16.disinfect it. Five permits data, another area! -- five minutes later.

:35:17. > :35:20.What else have you been asked to do? To walk the dogs around or walk

:35:21. > :35:24.around every few minutes and scare the wild birds away. I'm getting the

:35:25. > :35:32.sense you don't think these measures will work? It's got to be all

:35:33. > :35:38.nothing. The farmers had many questions for Defra. Graham Cooke is

:35:39. > :35:42.the UK deputy chief veterinary officer. I have a question from one

:35:43. > :35:45.of the farmers, the 1st of March although he supposedly in a low risk

:35:46. > :35:50.is in me doesn't want to let his bird that doesn't think he will be.

:35:51. > :35:55.His primary duty is to protect his birds and if he feels that the only

:35:56. > :35:58.way he can do it, that's his choice. But our current proposals say they

:35:59. > :36:02.could be let out as long as they are protected by netting from wild

:36:03. > :36:08.birds. Why is he being more cautious than you? We have taken advice from

:36:09. > :36:12.a range of specialists in the area, they are proposals, they are not

:36:13. > :36:15.fixed, upon which we have based high risk and low risk areas but I

:36:16. > :36:19.emphasise that no part of the country is risk-free. You really

:36:20. > :36:25.think 1st of March, people will be able to let their birds at? We don't

:36:26. > :36:30.quite know, we always said we would review the situation until the 20th

:36:31. > :36:31.of debris, it's a complex disease as you can imagine with wild birds

:36:32. > :36:35.concerned. -- the 28th of February. Thanks, Lucy - it's not just poultry

:36:36. > :36:37.farmers this also affects If you want more information on this

:36:38. > :36:49.you can find details on our website. Now let's turn our attention back

:36:50. > :36:55.to Real Marigold Hotel. I don't know if you've realised

:36:56. > :36:59.but each one of you left something You all forgot to pack a personal

:37:00. > :37:06.possession that tells a story We've managed to track

:37:07. > :37:13.down your stuff but the only problem is we don't know

:37:14. > :37:15.what belongs to who - Dave, bring in the lost

:37:16. > :37:31.and found box, please. Here we have the lost property.

:37:32. > :37:41.Let's see what we have got in here. We have got an order, Sheila! Paul!

:37:42. > :37:51.They don't look exactly like mine, but... They look very nice. I did

:37:52. > :37:56.have a small problem with underpants while I was up there. I such a small

:37:57. > :38:02.problem that I ended up with 14 pairs of them, which was possibly

:38:03. > :38:08.over the top. Anyway, thank you so much, I will take them home. All

:38:09. > :38:15.will be revealed or not is the case may be tonight! Do you want me to

:38:16. > :38:27.put them on now? We have arose in here. This indicates... This is from

:38:28. > :38:31.my date. My first date in eight years. He walked in and I said to my

:38:32. > :38:39.daughter, if he doesn't bring flowers, I'm not going, and he had

:38:40. > :38:49.flowers! When will you see him again? It in the pipeline. Did he

:38:50. > :38:57.manage to get a word in edgeways? Excuse you! Actually, no! He has got

:38:58. > :39:09.to be a good listener. Did he speak English? He never spoke! Moving on

:39:10. > :39:16.swiftly. We have a joke book. Dennis! I bombarded them the first

:39:17. > :39:20.two weeks, they want to send me home, they have heard every joke

:39:21. > :39:26.there ever was. Very silly ones, as well.

:39:27. > :39:32.Have very good drink for snooker players, whiskey and dwindling. You

:39:33. > :39:38.still get drug every night but in the morning your eyes are as clear

:39:39. > :39:44.as a bell. I'm used to being at the end of the queue!

:39:45. > :39:52.And you ended up with a very special moment. Four weeks there, I loved

:39:53. > :39:57.being with these people but the BBC arranged to take me to a hill

:39:58. > :40:01.station where the British Army were based and in 1875 people to the

:40:02. > :40:07.club, and snooker room was still there, they called at the billiard

:40:08. > :40:09.room and they had the table that Sir Neville Francis Fitzgerald

:40:10. > :40:19.Chamberlain invented the game of snooker and broke the rules for it

:40:20. > :40:26.and I got to play on the table. I did it with my glasses, and he's

:40:27. > :40:35.better than I was! But to get there was very emotional. Lovely. We have

:40:36. > :40:42.one final thing in this suitcase, a teddy bear. Lionel, this must be for

:40:43. > :40:48.you. Forget lots of friends at stage door, and every time I was left at

:40:49. > :40:55.present, there was... A little teddy bear. And that's over 20 years ago,

:40:56. > :41:01.we have had that little teddy bear and whenever we go abroad, were

:41:02. > :41:04.taken with us. When we crossed the Suez Canal, my wife put a

:41:05. > :41:10.handkerchief around him and said I have taken him. We have still got

:41:11. > :41:19.little head. He sleeps in our bed every night. And he came to India!

:41:20. > :41:28.Dennis, you don't have to take your cue to leave. You have got to catch

:41:29. > :41:35.a train! It is been wonderful seeing him. Come and see us again.

:41:36. > :41:36.Earlier we saw how some employers were failing

:41:37. > :41:39.to pay their staff the minimum wage - now let's restore your

:41:40. > :41:44.Nick Hewer has met an extraordinary inventor and businessman who has

:41:45. > :41:47.ripped up the rule book and handed his company

:41:48. > :41:59.And, get this, he's also scrapped the retirement age.

:42:00. > :42:06.Imagine you have been minted gadget that sells literally hundreds of

:42:07. > :42:11.millions, 80 countries around the world. You and your family would be

:42:12. > :42:17.set up for life. But the man who runs this business in Sheffield says

:42:18. > :42:22.he's not really interested in making money, and when he has done, he

:42:23. > :42:27.hopes he will have nothing left to leave his children. What sort of

:42:28. > :42:37.business is this? What sort of man is that? This is Gripple, based in

:42:38. > :42:43.Sheffield. It all started with the coming gadget that just joins two

:42:44. > :42:49.bits of wire. So this started it all? This is a Gripple why a joiner,

:42:50. > :42:56.if you push it through there, it looks, push the other wire through

:42:57. > :43:03.there, it locks so if you try and pull it... You can't pull it apart.

:43:04. > :43:06.You invented this! Gripple fasteners were used in vineyards, farms, the

:43:07. > :43:13.building industry, all over the world. So far they have sold 500

:43:14. > :43:16.million of them. That sounds of the hugely successful business but at

:43:17. > :43:23.the peak of its success, you decided to give it all away. He thought

:43:24. > :43:26.Gripple would run better if it was owned by the workers so he started

:43:27. > :43:32.giving his shares back to the company. Then he insisted the

:43:33. > :43:40.employees by them, at least ?1000 worth of shares in their first year.

:43:41. > :43:43.You don't give it to them? You give something to somebody, don't value

:43:44. > :43:49.it, if you buy something, devalue it. What the workers think about

:43:50. > :43:55.having to buy shares? Phil has been an investor for over 20 years. When

:43:56. > :43:59.I first started buying shares, obviously I invested ?2000 which

:44:00. > :44:05.there were a lot of money, and today is a lot of money, my wife were a

:44:06. > :44:11.bit, if these shares don't pay a mortgage of comic you're in deep

:44:12. > :44:16.trouble! Now, I walked into my bank and paid 60% of my mortgage off, I

:44:17. > :44:22.will be mortgage free in three years. They will only make a profit

:44:23. > :44:25.while the share price goes up, so it's business owners, the employees

:44:26. > :44:30.have an interest in Gripple doing well. Because you're part of the

:44:31. > :44:36.company and you on that little bit of the company, you wanted to grow

:44:37. > :44:41.and be better. It makes us put together to make sure the business

:44:42. > :44:43.survives. Everyone sees the daily figures, there are notice boards

:44:44. > :44:49.were people take ownership of problems and hardly anyone ever gets

:44:50. > :44:52.sacked. We don't have to get rid of people because of somebody is

:44:53. > :44:59.slacking, another person will say, on your bike!

:45:00. > :45:05.This is where the board meets. In most companies board meetings take

:45:06. > :45:11.place behind locked doors but here everybody can see and hear exactly

:45:12. > :45:17.what is going on. There is no clocking in or out. There are no job

:45:18. > :45:26.descriptions and there is no retirement age. No job descriptions,

:45:27. > :45:30.why not? When you get a business with job descriptions, people say, I

:45:31. > :45:36.can't do that, not my job description. We have one job

:45:37. > :45:44.description. If you see a ball, Tkatchev. -- catch it. I like

:45:45. > :45:55.accountants but they shouldn't be running a business. RU profit

:45:56. > :46:00.driven? No. I've worked with a lot of business people. You're the first

:46:01. > :46:07.to submit it to me that profit is not the most important thing. I

:46:08. > :46:11.think if you have the people, you will make the profit. If you look

:46:12. > :46:18.after people, then your business will look after itself. I find this

:46:19. > :46:21.place really interesting. When the workers owned the business, it

:46:22. > :46:30.changes its whole dynamic for the better. Isn't that wonderful? I

:46:31. > :46:37.think it's a great business model. And it's had the -- it's a handy

:46:38. > :46:43.gadget, I've used some of those in my time.

:46:44. > :46:45.Now, from a savvy businessman to a one man hit machine -

:46:46. > :46:48.a music producer who has worked with some of the biggest names

:46:49. > :46:51.on the planet and is behind some of the most successful songs

:46:52. > :47:23.So many catchy songs. Amazing. It's Naughty Boy. APPLAUSE

:47:24. > :47:31.Interestingly, used to work in a hotel, didn't you? The Grove in

:47:32. > :47:37.Hertfordshire. Quite a luxury hotel. It inspired some of the music on

:47:38. > :47:46.your first album? Yes. On my first album. In the hotel, I was serving

:47:47. > :47:52.breakfast to lots of people in the hotel, politicians, Madonna,

:47:53. > :47:56.everybody was grumpy at breakfast time. It's the same for everyone,

:47:57. > :48:02.breakfast time. It made me think about the whole concept of Fame. The

:48:03. > :48:04.list is endless, the people you've worked with.

:48:05. > :48:08.You've worked with some big names Beyonce, Mary J Blige,

:48:09. > :48:20.But you've been passionate about music for a long time. The minute I

:48:21. > :48:25.decided I wanted to do it, I remember asking the universe to hope

:48:26. > :48:32.me. The way it helped me, I was delivering pizzas ten years ago and

:48:33. > :48:42.then life just... You ended up on Deal Or No Deal. That was part of my

:48:43. > :48:46.plan. I wanted to go on a game show with no questions. I thought if I'm

:48:47. > :48:50.destined to win anything, it's a game where there is no questions but

:48:51. > :48:58.just fade. I saw the number 11 everywhere. So I was... It's not

:48:59. > :49:09.crazy. Everybody has got a number. From then on, when the show

:49:10. > :49:19.ended,... I140 ?4000. APPLAUSE -- I've won ?44,000. I built a

:49:20. > :49:33.studio in my shed. I met every Sunday. -- Emile Sande and she's

:49:34. > :49:38.become my favourite person to week with. The shed is in my garden, it's

:49:39. > :49:45.still got pots and pans and it still got the vibe. My mother used to love

:49:46. > :49:59.that room and that's where I got my culinary skills. All stars like to

:50:00. > :50:03.your studio. I moved it to Ealing. Their I've cooked for some Smith. I

:50:04. > :50:19.made shepherds pie for Mary Kay Blige. Very impressive. I guess, it

:50:20. > :50:25.all fits now. You had this destiny. I genuinely believe that everyone

:50:26. > :50:29.loves music and everybody has something in them where they can

:50:30. > :50:33.explore something to make a life out of it. That's all I've done. I've

:50:34. > :50:40.done it with people I love working with. Good for you. I said I was

:50:41. > :50:48.going to work with Bayonne say one day. I was putting it out there and

:50:49. > :50:54.last year I did. -- Beyonce. You have a lucky charm. Fortune, fate,

:50:55. > :50:59.whatever you believe in, we want people at home to get in contact and

:51:00. > :51:04.say what has brought you fortune over the years. Perhaps it is a

:51:05. > :51:07.lucky charm of a mascot that has got you the all-important result.

:51:08. > :51:14.Whatever brings you that thing in your life, we want to hear about it.

:51:15. > :51:19.E-mail us with the subject "Lucky charm".

:51:20. > :51:21.Whist our guests have been enjoying an overseas adventure -

:51:22. > :51:24.our action man Andy Torbet has been on an under-sea

:51:25. > :51:27.He's been exploring the warships sunk by their own crew nearly

:51:28. > :51:45.On the northern tip of Scotland in the Orkneys lies scupper flow --

:51:46. > :51:51.Scapa Flow, one of the most beautiful harbours in the world. But

:51:52. > :51:55.many years ago there was the greatest loss of shipping ever

:51:56. > :52:01.recorded in a single day. Most of Germany's warships were brought here

:52:02. > :52:08.for internment. While peace talks remained in place, a skeleton crew

:52:09. > :52:12.looked after the ships. After peace talks failed, to prevent the fleet

:52:13. > :52:19.falling into enemy hands, the Germans try to sync all 74 ships. It

:52:20. > :52:23.was meticulously planned to the last detail. It was all done in absolute

:52:24. > :52:28.secrecy. The first the British knew was when the German signs were

:52:29. > :52:35.raised on the ships. That had been Strictly forbidden when they were

:52:36. > :52:42.interned. Raising the flag was the signal to sabotage the ships. They

:52:43. > :52:45.opened all the valves and doors to C water flooding. They successfully

:52:46. > :52:52.scuttled three quarters of the ships. In the 1920s and 30s, many

:52:53. > :52:59.were recovered in the largest operation in history. But still many

:53:00. > :53:03.remain in Scapa Flow. Keirin has been diving here for ten years. He

:53:04. > :53:10.offered to guide me round the wrecks. What we are left with is the

:53:11. > :53:18.seven wrecks that we see marked here. I will be exploring HMS

:53:19. > :53:30.dressed in, a light cruiser lost in 1914. Removing any artefacts is

:53:31. > :53:34.illegal. Myself and partner are able to swim in and out of the light

:53:35. > :53:38.cruiser giving an insight into what life must have been like on board.

:53:39. > :54:03.We are in the office accommodation. Still intact, we come across one of

:54:04. > :54:04.the guns lying in its original position alongside the bridge on the

:54:05. > :54:26.port side. Over time, these wrecks became home

:54:27. > :54:44.to an abundance of life. This is the only thing that list down here. We

:54:45. > :54:52.think they are protected from taller fishing by the wrecks down there.

:54:53. > :54:57.Few fishermen trawl here because they risk losing their nets on the

:54:58. > :55:03.wrecks. We are particularly interested in the horse mussel beds

:55:04. > :55:11.that live down here in abundance. They filter the water as they feed.

:55:12. > :55:18.If the horse mussel beds weren't here, you wouldn't have the same

:55:19. > :55:23.biodiversity? That's right. We get up to 300 different species in a

:55:24. > :55:32.square metre. Within that, you can have as many as 23,000 animals. Look

:55:33. > :55:38.at the size of this starfish. It's massive. As he runs along the sea

:55:39. > :55:43.bed, the other smaller starfish Lambert to get out of his way. Look

:55:44. > :55:50.at them go. They flee for their lives. Two male spider crabs are

:55:51. > :55:55.having a disagreement over territory. And these scallops are

:55:56. > :56:01.moving about and avoiding predators. Scapa Flow is living proof that even

:56:02. > :56:05.if an area is completely devastated, given time and the right conditions,

:56:06. > :56:12.a barren landscape can be transformed into an underwater

:56:13. > :56:18.paradise. Absolutely mesmerising. Andy there, up in the Orkneys. We

:56:19. > :56:20.are done. We have left our guests. They have disappeared. What a show

:56:21. > :56:23.it has been. A massive thank you to all

:56:24. > :56:25.of tonight's guests. "The Real Marigold Hotel" starts

:56:26. > :56:28.tonight, BBC One tonight at nine. I'm back tomorrow with Angela

:56:29. > :56:32.when we'll be joined by Mary Berry but playing us out tonight

:56:33. > :57:02.is Naughty Boy featuring Kyla # Needed a bit of space

:57:03. > :57:10.# I thought you would stay with me # You're happy and I hated.

:57:11. > :57:18.# I want you so bad. # I want you back

:57:19. > :57:26.# On my own, I miss you # I want you so bad

:57:27. > :57:34.# I want you back, but you are gone. # Should have been me all along.

:57:35. > :57:42.# Should have been me every time I close my eyes

:57:43. > :57:58.# I can see what I used to be # It should have been me all along.

:57:59. > :58:04.# You don't think of me at all # How could I let you leave me?

:58:05. > :58:16.# It's too late to stop # I know that I spoke too soon

:58:17. > :58:23.# I want you so bad, # I want you back.

:58:24. > :58:33.# I want you so bad, # I want you back, but you've gone.

:58:34. > :58:36.# It should have been me all along. # It should have been me every time

:58:37. > :58:50.I close my eyes # I can see how I used to be

:58:51. > :58:57.# It should have been me all along # Issue have been me all along

:58:58. > :59:06.# I open my eyes and I see it's no dream, you're gone...

:59:07. > :59:13.# It should have been me all along... #.

:59:14. > :59:19.APPLAUSE Hello, I'm Tina Daheley

:59:20. > :59:22.with your 90 second update. President Trump's called reports,

:59:23. > :59:25.linking his campaign