0:00:18 > 0:00:20Hello and welcome to The One Show, with Matt Baker.
0:00:20 > 0:00:21And Angellica Bell.
0:00:21 > 0:00:24Later on, we'll be seeing how Alex and the team fared
0:00:24 > 0:00:26on the penultimate day of The Mother Of All Challenges,
0:00:26 > 0:00:29as they took on Snowdonia's treacherous Porth Yr Ogof cave.
0:00:29 > 0:00:32But first tonight's guest, who recently completed the epic
0:00:32 > 0:00:38Camino de Santiago Pilgrimage for a new BBC series.
0:00:38 > 0:00:41As she's clearly such a fan of walking, we figured we'd ask her
0:00:41 > 0:00:48to make her own way here tonight.
0:00:48 > 0:00:56Surely go for it?Yes. As soon as I start walking up these hills I am in
0:00:56 > 0:01:03agony. We are on the way home, folks. 30,630 steps I have taken
0:01:03 > 0:01:10today. We made it.
0:01:10 > 0:01:16It's Debbie McGee!
0:01:16 > 0:01:25Debbie! You stopped at the shops on the way here. Nice to see you.I'm
0:01:25 > 0:01:34guessing you didn't walk up on those?Of course I did!How your
0:01:34 > 0:01:40feet?They were completely covered in blisters. Blisters on blisters on
0:01:40 > 0:01:47blisters. You know when your blister comes off and it is raw? That is
0:01:47 > 0:01:50what I was like. Lovely to meet you. I didn't get to meet you on
0:01:50 > 0:01:55Masterchef.A book coming out and everything, I tell you!
0:01:55 > 0:01:58We'll be joined by one of your walking companions -
0:01:58 > 0:02:02The One Show's own Raphael Rowe - later on.
0:02:02 > 0:02:05He is not as quick at walking as you are so that is why he is slightly
0:02:05 > 0:02:11late.He is on his roller-skates tonight.
0:02:11 > 0:02:14At the end of last year, one show viewer Karen Anvil made
0:02:14 > 0:02:17the front pages of papers around the world, thanks to this picture
0:02:17 > 0:02:21of William, Kate, Harry and Meghan.
0:02:21 > 0:02:24I love this picture.They are all looking at Karen.
0:02:24 > 0:02:26Does Karen have a future as a royal photographer?
0:02:26 > 0:02:28Or was that just one lucky click?
0:02:28 > 0:02:35We sent her to Birmingham to find out.
0:02:35 > 0:02:43Karen Allen Phil from Norfolk is on a royal mission. She is trying to
0:02:43 > 0:02:47recreate this photograph which made headlines around the world.I've got
0:02:47 > 0:02:52my phone and then got dizzy of history can repeat itself.Last
0:02:52 > 0:02:56Christmas, Karen and her daughter Rachel joined the crowds outside
0:02:56 > 0:02:59church in Sandringham to get it in so Prince Harry's bride-to-be,
0:02:59 > 0:03:05Meghan Markle.My aim wasn't to take photos that day. I was joining in
0:03:05 > 0:03:10with the hundreds of other people who had phones out.Karen took just
0:03:10 > 0:03:16one picture.I looked at him and I thought, that's really good. I
0:03:16 > 0:03:22didn't think I would put it on Twitter. To all of my 11 followers.
0:03:22 > 0:03:28She also posted on the BBC Twitter page. Before she knew it, her
0:03:28 > 0:03:30picture had 80,000 likes and media organisations around the world were
0:03:30 > 0:03:37asking for a copy.Just one snap made more than £10,000. That is like
0:03:37 > 0:03:42a lottery win. It has changed our life for the better.Was this a
0:03:42 > 0:03:47lucky one off or can she do it again? With Prince Harry and his
0:03:47 > 0:03:53fiancee due to visit tomorrow, we are pitting Karen against Suzanne
0:03:53 > 0:03:55Plunkett, renowned Royal photographer, to see who can get
0:03:55 > 0:04:00their snapshot published.I am ready case at the joint. This kind of
0:04:00 > 0:04:05reminds me like a gig. Like you are about to see a rock band.Karen
0:04:05 > 0:04:09thinks she has found the perfect spot.They're getting dropped off
0:04:09 > 0:04:14here, then they will start here. So I think, this corner of this pen is
0:04:14 > 0:04:22my goal.But as the sun goes down, the reality of it all sets in.There
0:04:22 > 0:04:27is a lot of pressure but tomorrow it will be just me and my phone against
0:04:27 > 0:04:30all these professional photographers. I don't have much
0:04:30 > 0:04:37hope I'm going to get the snap of the day tomorrow.As her opponent,
0:04:37 > 0:04:42Suzanne, she has more than 20 years experience capturing big moments
0:04:42 > 0:04:46such as Kate and William's wedding, and the breadth of Prince George.
0:04:46 > 0:04:50She has agreed to give Karen some tips.Making eye contact can help.
0:04:50 > 0:04:57You will be using your mobile. You will be tapping away as you are
0:04:57 > 0:05:05trying to get her attention.Should I mention the photo?Why not?
0:05:05 > 0:05:11Tomorrow we are against each other. Do you feel any pressure?At first I
0:05:11 > 0:05:19thought no, but now, I don't know. I don't want to miss out to a mobile
0:05:19 > 0:05:25phone!It's on. 7am, Karen is the first to arrive and grabs her place.
0:05:25 > 0:05:34Right, this is good. And this is my home. For the next three and a half
0:05:34 > 0:05:40hours.Suzanne is also looking out for a good spot.I am not going to
0:05:40 > 0:05:46get a shot if I am behind her.I don't know what Suzanne is doing but
0:05:46 > 0:05:51I have that feeling that she is waiting to see what I do before she
0:05:51 > 0:05:55then makes her move.But Suzanne has a secret weapon. Her trusty pink
0:05:55 > 0:06:04steps.Look! She has got gloves on. She is a pro.Now they just have to
0:06:04 > 0:06:12wait. And it's not long before the crowds
0:06:12 > 0:06:20and paparazzi muscle in on their territory. After four hours in the
0:06:20 > 0:06:23rain and cold, Prince Harry and Megan finally arrived. The battle
0:06:23 > 0:06:31commences. For a Karen, things don't start well. The royal couple walked
0:06:31 > 0:06:40straight past.I missed my opportunity.She has to act fast.
0:06:40 > 0:06:45Getting a good shot is tricky among these crowds so she tries her plan
0:06:45 > 0:06:50to get Prince Harry's attention.Can I ask you a question? I took a photo
0:06:50 > 0:06:54of you at Christmas and I was wondering if you liked it.Which one
0:06:54 > 0:07:00was that?Made the front pages.I hope you made lots of money out of
0:07:00 > 0:07:08it.It did. You saved my life. Thanks.Karen continues to snap away
0:07:08 > 0:07:12and get some half decent shots. Suzanne has managed to get some good
0:07:12 > 0:07:18pictures as well. Now the race is on to applaud their images to see whose
0:07:18 > 0:07:20picture is picked up by the press.
0:07:20 > 0:07:27So who did get their picture published?
0:07:27 > 0:07:33I have the result here. There is the winning shot. Who took it?It is
0:07:33 > 0:07:42Karen!This was the winning shot. That joke of a picture was the
0:07:42 > 0:07:51winning shot!Are you pleased?I am pleased I got to meet Prince Harry
0:07:51 > 0:07:54and he knew I was not a money grabber making money off the photo.
0:07:54 > 0:07:59That is what I wanted. Because Suzanne is the best photographer.
0:07:59 > 0:08:04Her photos were amazing.This was more of an article about you and the
0:08:04 > 0:08:09fact you got another shot on the back of the one you got before. What
0:08:09 > 0:08:14did you take away from what he actually said to you?Relief. I felt
0:08:14 > 0:08:19fantastic. That is what I wanted. When I was being asked, do you want
0:08:19 > 0:08:25another shot? I knew it was pure luck. It has changed my life and my
0:08:25 > 0:08:35daughters. -- daughter's. I feel silly, but Prince Harry, that is so
0:08:35 > 0:08:39cool for him to say, I hope you made a lot of money. It was kind of like
0:08:39 > 0:08:46the nod. He knew it was a lucky thing.You went there to see the
0:08:46 > 0:08:56Royals.Because of my daughter!Hi, Rachel.Isn't she gorgeous? I even
0:08:56 > 0:09:00said to her that morning, are you absolutely sure? She said she wanted
0:09:00 > 0:09:05to see Megan. So we went.Veigneau started making money from this
0:09:05 > 0:09:10photo. The idea was to put money into Rachel's education. What is the
0:09:10 > 0:09:16situation?I have done other stuff for a Rachel now through that. She
0:09:16 > 0:09:19has been so lucky she has got an apprenticeship at our local
0:09:19 > 0:09:23hospital, working in cancer services on our Macmillan unit. She has done
0:09:23 > 0:09:30really well. She will be working her way up on the inside. This is a
0:09:30 > 0:09:36start for her. Which is brilliant. Fantastic. It is driving lessons,
0:09:36 > 0:09:44cars, safe cars. That is what I wanted.Good stuff. Good picture,
0:09:44 > 0:09:50you met Harry and you got plenty of money from it. Earlier we sent you
0:09:50 > 0:09:58on a The One Show challenge. Can I have a shot for the The One
0:09:58 > 0:10:07Show? BEEP. I'm going to take you down. I will take you down to
0:10:07 > 0:10:17Chinatown. BEEP.I will use a garden hose. An actual garden hose.
0:10:17 > 0:10:23APPLAUSE.
0:10:23 > 0:10:31APPLAUSE.That is hilarious.We need to point out that was a gag.Debbie
0:10:31 > 0:10:39never uses language like that at all!Well done.Thank you.
0:10:42 > 0:10:45all!Well done.Thank you.We will be checking in on Alex later. First,
0:10:45 > 0:10:52earlier this year Alex and two of the team visited Nairobi to see your
0:10:52 > 0:10:56money in action. Nairobi, Kenya. It can be hard to be
0:10:56 > 0:11:01disabled anywhere in the world. But in the sprawling city life, being a
0:11:01 > 0:11:06disabled child can be especially tough. There is still a lot of
0:11:06 > 0:11:09stigma around disability teacher and children with disabilities often
0:11:09 > 0:11:14don't get the chance to have an education, to play sport or even do
0:11:14 > 0:11:22things that you and I take for granted. Debbie and Amal are off to
0:11:22 > 0:11:29see how disabled children are coping in Nairobi. Debbie found out her
0:11:29 > 0:11:33daughter may have cerebral palsy just a few days after she was born.
0:11:33 > 0:11:36During pregnancy you must put yourself in a bubble that you have a
0:11:36 > 0:11:42perfect baby. Then when it is not OK, there is a disbelief, there is a
0:11:42 > 0:11:50guilt. And then there is fear. What is this child's future going to be?
0:11:51 > 0:11:59High!Jeff is eight years old and disabled. His mother is a widow and
0:11:59 > 0:12:07has found it difficult to look after her son alone.
0:12:07 > 0:12:10TRANSLATION:Shortly after Jeff was born he looked unwell. I was worried
0:12:10 > 0:12:17and took him to the hospital. Then for five days, he went into a coma.
0:12:17 > 0:12:22After eight months he couldn't sit up and was just lying down. The
0:12:22 > 0:12:26doctors could not say what was wrong with him. He had a disability and I
0:12:26 > 0:12:30had to do my best to look after him. I cannot leave him alone with
0:12:30 > 0:12:36anyone. Everywhere I go I have to carry on. It becomes very stressful.
0:12:36 > 0:12:44He is very heavy. Sometimes Jeff is not able to communicate what he
0:12:44 > 0:12:49wants, and he is crying. It is so frustrating. I cry with him.What
0:12:49 > 0:12:54else was difficult about having a disabled child?
0:12:54 > 0:12:57TRANSLATION:The biggest challenge is stigma, being looked at like you
0:12:57 > 0:13:03did something wrong. I have come away with a real sense
0:13:03 > 0:13:09of how much support she lacked for at least six years of Jeff's life.
0:13:09 > 0:13:17Bringing up a child with challenges. There is a project funded through
0:13:17 > 0:13:22sport relief donations, the active network for the disabled that
0:13:22 > 0:13:26assists children like Jeff. It helps children improve their movement and
0:13:26 > 0:13:33prepares them for a possible future in mainstream education. Alfred is
0:13:33 > 0:13:37one of the support workers at this project.
0:13:37 > 0:13:42How has Jeff changed since he has been taking part in the project?
0:13:42 > 0:13:45He could not walk, he could not crawl, you could not even speak. But
0:13:45 > 0:13:49since getting involved in sports, the children are pushing him to
0:13:49 > 0:13:55move, to go for the ball. At long last he can now crawl. With time he
0:13:55 > 0:14:02will stand and he will walk. Yes!Look at Jeff on his feet. It is
0:14:02 > 0:14:09just lovely. It is showing there is so much ability there.It is really
0:14:09 > 0:14:15inclusive. The other kids are getting involved.
0:14:15 > 0:14:20The project supports parents as well as children. Ruth's daughter found
0:14:20 > 0:14:27it difficult to communicate or war before she came here. What was your
0:14:27 > 0:14:29experience of other people's reactions to you having a disabled
0:14:29 > 0:14:34daughter?
0:14:35 > 0:14:45daughter? They say it is a curse? Look how well this beautiful little
0:14:45 > 0:14:52girl is doing. She is walking. She is starting to talk.
0:14:52 > 0:15:00She is saying mum. That is beautiful.
0:15:00 > 0:15:04TRANSLATION:Before coming to this group I felt alone but when I came
0:15:04 > 0:15:06here there were other people going through the same problems. I can
0:15:06 > 0:15:09feel the stress of life going away because I can talk with other
0:15:09 > 0:15:18parents.It is so, so important. Being involved in a project like
0:15:18 > 0:15:22this means that Jeff is more mobile and less dependent on his mother.
0:15:22 > 0:15:26Your donations will help to pay for a sporting coach to run sessions
0:15:26 > 0:15:30like the one we have seen today. Give generously, give as much as you
0:15:30 > 0:15:37can. Thank you.
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0:15:46 > 0:15:48Debbie
0:15:48 > 0:15:55Debbie, can you do £20?Sure.
0:15:55 > 0:16:00And to donate £20, text the word MUM to 70220.
0:16:00 > 0:16:02Texts will cost your donation plus your standard network message
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0:16:12 > 0:16:16Please keep donating because every penny makes a huge difference.
0:16:16 > 0:16:18From one epic journey to another.
0:16:18 > 0:16:21Welcome.
0:16:21 > 0:16:24Raph's with us now, because you two have been spending quite a bit
0:16:24 > 0:16:25of time together lately!
0:16:25 > 0:16:28Let's talk about Pilgrimage: The Road to Santiago.
0:16:28 > 0:16:35Tell us about it.It has an epic journey as you said starting in
0:16:35 > 0:16:39Biarritz in France and walking across the Pyrenees which I think
0:16:39 > 0:16:44was the most challenging part of the journey. It was baking hot and
0:16:44 > 0:16:49really difficult because all we had was our rucksacks and everything in
0:16:49 > 0:16:54them.You carry your own kit?We did not take anything else, we had to
0:16:54 > 0:16:57leave all the luxuries at home and do this epic journey. You can walk
0:16:57 > 0:17:04ten kilometres a day and it is very difficult and although it was
0:17:04 > 0:17:08physically challenging it was a pleasurable pain.The route is
0:17:08 > 0:17:14around 500 miles?It is more than that, it is 800 kilometres. We could
0:17:14 > 0:17:17not walk all of it because we did not have enough time, most people
0:17:17 > 0:17:24take six weeks.What is it about this route? 250,000 people do it.
0:17:24 > 0:17:30People did it thousands of years ago as a pilgrimage, a way to get closer
0:17:30 > 0:17:37to St James, that is the end result, Santiago de Compostela was the
0:17:37 > 0:17:43journey.We did it like they did in the medieval times, staying in the
0:17:43 > 0:17:53craftiest places!Did you expect that?No! You know me -- the most
0:17:53 > 0:18:04grotty places. There were seven of us in all.There is your crew.Ed
0:18:04 > 0:18:10Byrne kept us laughing most the and Neil. JJ Chalmers was lovely, who
0:18:10 > 0:18:15presents the Invictus Games and things, and Heather Small, she sang
0:18:15 > 0:18:22on a couple of occasions. And Kate, the Reverend Kate, she could be a
0:18:22 > 0:18:28stand-up comedian!I think she found it the toughest, not because she
0:18:28 > 0:18:32could not physically do it about I think she did not expect it to take
0:18:32 > 0:18:37so long and for it to be all about walking. I think she found it quite
0:18:37 > 0:18:43challenging, as we all did.It was hard.Very hard.But what made it
0:18:43 > 0:18:48was we all got on so well and the Camino is a special place because
0:18:48 > 0:18:52you're miles away from any work up in the mountains and you meet a lot
0:18:52 > 0:18:55of interesting people.A big part of the programme is the conversations
0:18:55 > 0:18:59you have together and also the people you meet and we have a little
0:18:59 > 0:19:05clip of you talking to a gentleman and his motivation.My dad that the
0:19:05 > 0:19:09walk but yet to get an emergency flight home. We found out he had
0:19:09 > 0:19:17cancer. And I lost him a week before Christmas. I've got his pilgrim
0:19:17 > 0:19:25passport from 2014. I'm collecting his stamps just trying to get a bit
0:19:25 > 0:19:30of comfort to fulfil what he wanted to do.We could see what that meant
0:19:30 > 0:19:33to you having that conversation and what you have been through
0:19:33 > 0:19:39obviously.It is just a clip and you don't get a whole conversation but
0:19:39 > 0:19:45I'm sure you will on the programme. It just touched me. My grief was so
0:19:45 > 0:19:50raw because we filmed this last June, just before I started Strictly
0:19:50 > 0:19:54and his grief was very raw and it was just that moment... He was a
0:19:54 > 0:20:00very special boy. The relationship he had had with his father, walking
0:20:00 > 0:20:05in his dad's boots and things. It was a very special moment in the
0:20:05 > 0:20:10trip.Did it come at a good time for you, this? Was that one of the
0:20:10 > 0:20:15reasons you wanted to do it?It was just something I would never do and
0:20:15 > 0:20:19because they said so many people get enlightened by it, and I'm not
0:20:19 > 0:20:24religious, but I was brought up Catholic, I thought I might get
0:20:24 > 0:20:30something spiritual out of it. Actually what I got was the
0:20:30 > 0:20:34camaraderie. The seventh of us got on so well, we were like a family
0:20:34 > 0:20:40and we have stayed in touch -- the seven of us. Raph has been almost
0:20:40 > 0:20:48around the world since, Neil loves sending us pictures of him on a
0:20:48 > 0:20:55beach! But we all got something out of doing the walk. It is special. We
0:20:55 > 0:21:02did it as they did years ago, and if you don't have much of a budget, you
0:21:02 > 0:21:05can stay in the hostels we stayed in and we survived and if I can't
0:21:05 > 0:21:10survive in them, anybody can! That was the hardest thing, our
0:21:10 > 0:21:16rucksacks. He walked behind me holding it up! But that was the
0:21:16 > 0:21:21hardest thing. But people have their rucksacks sent on to modern hotels
0:21:21 > 0:21:30now. They end up at a hotel with the luggage there.Like you said this is
0:21:30 > 0:21:35not just a show about religion and faith. Raph, you are an atheist and
0:21:35 > 0:21:40you say that on the programme.I described myself as a ignorantist
0:21:40 > 0:21:47and by that I mean I know nothing about religion. I hoped to discover
0:21:47 > 0:21:51more about religion and spirituality and peoples faces. And talking to
0:21:51 > 0:21:58the team I was with I knew nothing about humanists before and I learned
0:21:58 > 0:22:06more towards that -- and people's faiths. People of all ages walks the
0:22:06 > 0:22:10walk, like the kid we met who walked in his dad's shoes, you will it
0:22:10 > 0:22:15means more people that you could imagine. I did not discover anything
0:22:15 > 0:22:20new about religion but it reinforced my thoughts about religion and one
0:22:20 > 0:22:23of the most interesting things was the grown-up conversations we as a
0:22:23 > 0:22:27group had about religion and what we thought about it and other people
0:22:27 > 0:22:31thought about it. And why people like Kate, who is a priest, believe
0:22:31 > 0:22:39in God or a faith so strongly and what drives them. I was driven by
0:22:39 > 0:22:43something completely different. When you were struggling and it was a
0:22:43 > 0:22:46tough journey, you could find something in yourself to carry on
0:22:46 > 0:22:51getting through which was really hard.And you have touched on the
0:22:51 > 0:22:56hostel site of this bit you struggled in one which had a single
0:22:56 > 0:23:02bed with Barzan and that was a good reason, because you were wrongly
0:23:02 > 0:23:06convicted of murder and spent 12 years in jail.In a jail cell in a
0:23:06 > 0:23:11single bed, and when I was released, I vowed to myself I would never
0:23:11 > 0:23:17sleep in a single bed again. Lo and behold, on the very first day, in
0:23:17 > 0:23:22the first hostel, what do you have? A single bed and a window with bars
0:23:22 > 0:23:28so that was a very tough night for me. One of the biggest turnarounds
0:23:28 > 0:23:35in my thought process in coping with sleeping -- was coping in sleeping
0:23:35 > 0:23:40in a single bed.It is all in the programme am Pilgrimage: The Road To
0:23:40 > 0:23:45Santiago which starts tomorrow night at 9pm on BBC Two. It is time to see
0:23:45 > 0:23:49how Alex and her band of months I been getting on on the penultimate
0:23:49 > 0:23:55day of the mother of all challenge. Today they are in Snowdonia. And my
0:23:55 > 0:23:55word,
0:23:56 > 0:24:03We have already paddled, climbed and swam but today it is all about
0:24:03 > 0:24:10keeping it together mentally. Our task is to go into the depths of the
0:24:10 > 0:24:16Porth Yr Ogof cake in the Brecon Beacons, as it of -- interconnected
0:24:16 > 0:24:19caves one and a half miles long with a river running through it.They are
0:24:19 > 0:24:26taking us into places called the letterbox and the washing machine!A
0:24:26 > 0:24:34lack of air and a lack of space!Not too problematic! I am going to
0:24:34 > 0:24:42channel my inner miner.Today is almost 100% psychological.I'm not
0:24:42 > 0:24:48sure how I'm going to react to the confined spaces.What if I panic? I
0:24:48 > 0:24:53can't get out and out and I can't go down and out.I hope I'm not the one
0:24:53 > 0:24:57who starts freaking out.But on the lamp and I'll be fine! After the
0:24:57 > 0:25:05safety briefing we are ready.
0:25:06 > 0:25:12But the entrance of the case isn't what we quite expected.That is my
0:25:12 > 0:25:21worst nightmare.How are we feeling? Petrified.
0:25:21 > 0:25:25Petrified.To be honest, we were all a little bit apprehensive, even more
0:25:25 > 0:25:29so when we were told we had to abseil to the bottom but this team
0:25:29 > 0:25:35of mums looks after each other. We'll be fine when we are in there.
0:25:35 > 0:25:39The chatter is not quite as lively, they are starting to realise that
0:25:39 > 0:25:45this is a real challenge.It is a long way down.I nearly had a panic
0:25:45 > 0:25:52attack halfway down.We take it one step at a time.I thought was going
0:25:52 > 0:25:55to burst into tears and I don't do that.It is a great sense of relief
0:25:55 > 0:26:02to have firm ground under our feet again. I knew it was going to be all
0:26:02 > 0:26:06right because I saw you do it. When we walked in and we got an idea of
0:26:06 > 0:26:11how big it actually is. But our sightseeing comes to a halt as we
0:26:11 > 0:26:14are told we have a set of claustrophobic challenges to go
0:26:14 > 0:26:20through. The first is called the Sofa.The going straight through
0:26:20 > 0:26:27this hole, we will crawl in...Did you pack the fairy liquid?!
0:26:31 > 0:26:35This sofa is definitely not as comfortable as the one on the One
0:26:35 > 0:26:39Show.I don't like tight places, the fact that I can't stand up.
0:26:39 > 0:26:44Following the instructions of the guides, where else could we go next
0:26:44 > 0:26:50but the Letterbox.It is the smallest hole.It's a bit of a
0:26:50 > 0:27:00squeeze. But there was a nice water slide at the end.They're doing
0:27:00 > 0:27:04amazing, really inspirational, it's fantastic.Fear has given way to
0:27:04 > 0:27:09giggles! I can't believe we got through it!As a team it makes it
0:27:09 > 0:27:13easier. You can see the fun in it and pushing each other through the
0:27:13 > 0:27:20holes, that is the key. Having already climbed a mountain earlier
0:27:20 > 0:27:24in the week, we did not think we would have to face any more ledges.
0:27:24 > 0:27:35We were wrong.Behind me is an area called the Ledge of Death, if you go
0:27:35 > 0:27:38too far to the right there is a chance you can drop off the edge.
0:27:38 > 0:27:44Steadily we crawl across the ledge. You cannot put a foot wrong.It is
0:27:44 > 0:27:48such a burn on the other body pulling yourself along.And if that
0:27:48 > 0:27:55was not enough, on the way out we go through what is called the Toilet.
0:27:58 > 0:28:09That is cold!Freezing! After nearly two hours of freezing conditions, we
0:28:09 > 0:28:14finally make it to daylight and it is the teamwork of this group of
0:28:14 > 0:28:21mums that has helped see us through. Natural miners we are not but we
0:28:21 > 0:28:29gave it a good go.Four down, one to go.
0:28:29 > 0:28:34APPLAUSE They have got a good team spirit
0:28:34 > 0:28:40now! Good to see them smiling. Tomorrow the Mother Of All
0:28:40 > 0:28:42Challenges draws to a close with the small matter of a marathon standing
0:28:42 > 0:28:46between them and the finish line. They are going to finish sometime
0:28:46 > 0:28:52after 5pm at Castle swept in Swansea so get down there and it would be
0:28:52 > 0:28:56much appreciated.-- Castle Square. All of their donation go to Sport
0:28:56 > 0:29:00Relief and their work in the UK and in some of the poorest countries in
0:29:00 > 0:29:04the world.Good luck to Alex and all of the mums. Just one more day to
0:29:04 > 0:29:11go. A big thank you to Debbie and graphs. You can see Pilgrimage: The
0:29:11 > 0:29:17Road To Santiago tomorrow night at 9pm on BBC Two. -- Debbie and
0:29:17 > 0:29:19graphs.
0:29:19 > 0:29:21I'll be back tomorrow with Matt Allwright.
0:29:21 > 0:29:22Very excited about our guest.
0:29:22 > 0:29:25He's coming from galaxy far, far away to sit right
0:29:25 > 0:29:26here on our green sofa.
0:29:26 > 0:29:28It's John Boyega.
0:29:28 > 0:29:32Tonight.
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