:00:18. > :00:24.Hello and welcome to the One Show with Alex Jones. And for the second
:00:25. > :00:32.tonight, aren't either lucky girl, Mister Matt Allwright will be here.
:00:33. > :00:37.Not a sarcastic as it was meant to sound. Thank goodness to come
:00:38. > :00:42.between us tonight, a man known for his mix of music and politics who,
:00:43. > :00:46.like myself, has a penchant for a pearl-snap shirt. And says he is
:00:47. > :00:54.turning into a radical Kenny Rogers. It is Billy Bragg. Great to be here.
:00:55. > :01:00.So the pearl-snap shirt, is this a shift of emphasis are you? Some of
:01:01. > :01:04.your critics say you are becoming a country singer. Country is going too
:01:05. > :01:11.far, I think I could get away with what is called Americana, which is
:01:12. > :01:21.country music for people who like the Smiths. Guitar like Johnny Marr.
:01:22. > :01:25.I know I haven't got my pearl-snap shirt on, which is a disappointment,
:01:26. > :01:30.but two things. I just got back from a tour of Australia and New
:01:31. > :01:33.Zealand, so the good ones are at the cleaners and secondly, I wore one on
:01:34. > :01:38.Question Time last Thursday and I thought people would think I only
:01:39. > :01:42.have one shirt. Interesting you should mention Question Time,
:01:43. > :01:45.because this September, the referendum on Scottish independence
:01:46. > :01:49.takes place and it will be the first time in UK that 16 and 17-year-olds
:01:50. > :01:53.will be allowed to go to the ballot box. Justin Rowlatt has been to
:01:54. > :01:58.Glasgow to meet some of those gearing up for their very first
:01:59. > :02:01.vote. On September the 18th, voters in
:02:02. > :02:06.Scotland will be asked a straight yes or no question. Should Scotland
:02:07. > :02:11.become an independent country? Any change will be permanent, so perhaps
:02:12. > :02:15.those who have most to win or lose the 16 and 17-year-olds who will be
:02:16. > :02:21.voting for the first time. So how are they weighing things up?
:02:22. > :02:28.Are you guys ready to vote Chris Rock are you beginning to feel the
:02:29. > :02:31.passion and delete pressure? I am feeling the pressure, candidates are
:02:32. > :02:35.just arguing and not telling us what we need to know. We have delivered
:02:36. > :02:40.the decision for many years to come and we can't complain if we don't
:02:41. > :02:45.engage properly when making them. We have invited members from both yes
:02:46. > :02:51.and no camps to speak to our members. First up, Blair Jenkins,
:02:52. > :02:56.representing Yes Scotland. If we vote for independence, will there be
:02:57. > :03:02.a cultural divide? I don't think so. By and large, this debate has been
:03:03. > :03:05.conducted in a friendly way. I have friends who are on the other side of
:03:06. > :03:10.the debate and they will be friends when it is over. It is a temporary
:03:11. > :03:15.disagreement and we will be fine. We are in the financial district, does
:03:16. > :03:18.anyone have any questions about the economics of independence? Where are
:03:19. > :03:22.the areas in the case of independence where we will see tax
:03:23. > :03:26.rises? There will only be tax rises if that is what people vote for.
:03:27. > :03:31.There is a general distrust of politicians at Westminster. One of
:03:32. > :03:34.the things a Scottish Government that is independent has to do,
:03:35. > :03:41.whoever wins the first election, is build up trust with the Scottish
:03:42. > :03:48.people. So we are outside the famous Glasgow University. I think you have
:03:49. > :03:53.a question about tuition fees? How well an independent Scotland be able
:03:54. > :03:57.to cope in the long run with free tuition? I think not having tuition
:03:58. > :04:00.fees in Scotland is one of the best things we have done, since we were
:04:01. > :04:05.able to take our own decisions in relation to education and I wish the
:04:06. > :04:08.rest of the UK had the same policy. Unfortunately they don't and tuition
:04:09. > :04:16.fees in England are in some cases more than ?9,000 a year. We are very
:04:17. > :04:19.fortunate, there is no country that has become independent in the last
:04:20. > :04:20.100 years that has become independent in such benevolent
:04:21. > :04:23.circumstances. If you look around Europe, most of the country is doing
:04:24. > :04:27.really well are small countries and it seems to be something to do with
:04:28. > :04:31.having the ability to focus, take a really good strategic view of what
:04:32. > :04:34.is important in your economy and develop those things. That is what
:04:35. > :04:39.the wealthiest countries in Europe, by and large, have a similar
:04:40. > :04:42.population to Scotland. Now it is the turn Blair McDougall,
:04:43. > :04:46.representing the better together campaign. He is setting sail on the
:04:47. > :04:53.River Clyde and hoping to convince our young voters that know is the
:04:54. > :04:58.answer. Since the 1940s, the Scottish vote hasn't changed,
:04:59. > :05:02.whoever has ruled them. I think the best step towards that would be one
:05:03. > :05:06.voice in five and a half million, rather than 62 in half a million.
:05:07. > :05:11.Surely we will Bill be able to change the things we want to change
:05:12. > :05:16.and vote for the Government we want --we will be able? We already have
:05:17. > :05:19.more power is coming to the Scottish parliament, more decision making,
:05:20. > :05:22.but we have the back-up of being part of something bigger. Last
:05:23. > :05:26.year, the drop in the amount of money coming from North Sea oil cuts
:05:27. > :05:29.in one year is the equivalent of the budget for every single school in
:05:30. > :05:33.Scotland for one year. We didn't need to make those cuts because we
:05:34. > :05:37.are part of the United Kingdom and have that stability. How could the
:05:38. > :05:42.Scottish economy come first when we are such a small part of the United
:05:43. > :05:45.Kingdom? Many of the things we are great at our invested in from the
:05:46. > :05:50.rest of the UK. We are going past shipyards, where there are thousands
:05:51. > :05:54.of jobs, where the only customer for that is the Royal Navy, we have just
:05:55. > :05:59.built the biggest chip in its history, the financial services
:06:00. > :06:05.sector, many of the other parts are in other parts of the UK, so the
:06:06. > :06:10.idea of us -- is specialising in the things we are at. The No Campaign
:06:11. > :06:21.wants to continue with free education but the Better Together
:06:22. > :06:25.campaign says they were charges. If the rest of the people in the UK are
:06:26. > :06:29.suddenly from a foreign country, they would qualify for free
:06:30. > :06:33.education in Scotland as well. It is a question of whether it continues
:06:34. > :06:38.to be affordable. Back on dry land, how do the young voters feel about
:06:39. > :06:43.casting their vote? There is a lot of pressure on us, it needs to be
:06:44. > :06:45.there, you need to involve 16 and 17-year-olds in the political
:06:46. > :06:52.system, it is the only way you get people to engage.
:06:53. > :06:56.It is good pressure, isn't it? It is a big decision. Billy, you have
:06:57. > :06:59.always worked to get young people involved in politics, but
:07:00. > :07:04.16-year-olds, they can vary a lot in maturity and understanding. Is it
:07:05. > :07:08.too early? We allow people to leave school at 16 so we must be accepting
:07:09. > :07:13.they are ready to go into the wider world. If you are in work, paying
:07:14. > :07:17.taxes, you can join the Army at 16, I think it seems wrong for people
:07:18. > :07:20.not to be represented. I am not a very good advert, to be honest. The
:07:21. > :07:27.first time I had the opportunity to vote, I didn't, because I was a punk
:07:28. > :07:31.rocker. That is surprising. And Margaret Thatcher got elected. I am
:07:32. > :07:34.not a great advert. Part of the problem was I didn't really
:07:35. > :07:39.understand it and if we are going to have votes for 16-year-olds, we need
:07:40. > :07:42.much more civic education at school, so people understand how it works. I
:07:43. > :07:45.know there are city classes now but from what I understand from my
:07:46. > :07:51.nephews and nieces, they don't engage. They will have their say in
:07:52. > :08:00.September. Now, let's have a treat from the Billy Bragg catalogue.
:08:01. > :08:04.# I loved you then as I love you still.
:08:05. > :08:09.# You put me on the pedestal, which on the pill.
:08:10. > :08:14.# Some feel bad about letting you go.
:08:15. > :08:20.# I don't want to change the world # I'm not looking for A New England
:08:21. > :08:24.# I'm just looking for another girl. # I don't want to change the world
:08:25. > :08:30.# I'm not looking for A New England # I'm just looking for another
:08:31. > :08:40.girl. Great song. Bettis from your DVD,
:08:41. > :08:43.live at the Union Chapel. You describe yourself as a lapsed
:08:44. > :08:48.atheist, is it comfortable playing in a church? It is a lovely geek to
:08:49. > :08:52.play, you can see from the sleeve of the DVD, it is lovely. That's what a
:08:53. > :08:56.lovely show. Sometimes, churches have a weird effect on the audience,
:08:57. > :09:03.I think it is sitting on pews X mark I have been known to preach as well
:09:04. > :09:07.from the stage. The great thing is, everyone can hear you when you
:09:08. > :09:13.speak, the sightlines are really great and it is a really special
:09:14. > :09:16.place. Everyone knows. That particular gig is a really nice one.
:09:17. > :09:22.You don't have people talking at the bar, trying to get together at the
:09:23. > :09:25.bar, meeting other people, to have a relationship with, and you can't be
:09:26. > :09:30.telling them to shut up. You don't have that in the union Greg
:09:31. > :09:39.Chappell. And great acoustics. You have been with the band with a year.
:09:40. > :09:44.How does it compare being delayed to being a solo artist? There are more
:09:45. > :09:48.people to carry your guitars around. I have had a lot of fun with
:09:49. > :09:53.the guys, it is more interesting for me as a musician because I can throw
:09:54. > :09:56.songs at the band and we can learn all songs of mine, we play A New
:09:57. > :10:04.England now as a band, as an ensemble, and it sounds a bit like
:10:05. > :10:10.Kraftwerk. You are on the road later in the year, is that with the band?
:10:11. > :10:15.Some of them are. Latitude, I will be with the band, Glastonbury I am
:10:16. > :10:18.on my own. And you are one extreme to the other, you did Sydney Opera
:10:19. > :10:23.House and you are doing a very different one on Saturday, very
:10:24. > :10:29.small. I am doing a record shop in the room called Raves From The
:10:30. > :10:33.Grave. It is international record store Day on Saturday, artist go
:10:34. > :10:38.around to celebrate the few record stores that are around. And we have
:10:39. > :10:42.a treat at the end of the show, you will be singing us out. Now, the
:10:43. > :10:47.parenting site Mumsnet announced yesterday they had been hacked, the
:10:48. > :10:49.attackers had exploited the recent heartbleed bug, meaning the
:10:50. > :10:56.subscribers to the site are being advised to change their passwords.
:10:57. > :11:00.More about the heartbleed bug later. But what makes a successful
:11:01. > :11:06.password? A minimum of eight characters, our mixture of capital
:11:07. > :11:11.and small letters, numbers and symbols. Like this one, The1sh0w!.
:11:12. > :11:17.Is that your current password? Speak ever used to be.
:11:18. > :11:22.In the past, to keep your possessions safe was a big metal
:11:23. > :11:27.safe and decay. But in this modern digital age, to keep your money
:11:28. > :11:30.secure, your correspondence private and to keep those embarrassing
:11:31. > :11:38.pictures out of sight, you need a password. And not just one, today's
:11:39. > :11:45.internet user, on average, has 26 different sites, each requiring a
:11:46. > :11:52.password. Very recently, the heartbleed bug threatened internet
:11:53. > :11:55.security worldwide, shocking internet giants. Doctor Jessica
:11:56. > :12:00.Barker tells me what it takes to make a password more secure.
:12:01. > :12:03.Anything that is known about you, anything you talk about or tweet
:12:04. > :12:07.about is something you want to avoid. And anything is easy to
:12:08. > :12:11.guess, so dictionary words are red. Lots of people use them, so they are
:12:12. > :12:17.very obvious, but there password cracking tools that can crack 1
:12:18. > :12:21.million passwords per second. 1 million per second? Should we have a
:12:22. > :12:26.different password for every site? Absolutely, if one gets stolen, the
:12:27. > :12:30.rest of your accounts are safe. So, in an ideal world, to make our
:12:31. > :12:33.online experience as safe as possible, we have to remember
:12:34. > :12:40.numerous passwords that cannot be cracked.
:12:41. > :12:45.But that is easier said than done. But it is not just me that is having
:12:46. > :12:57.a nightmare with this, is it? How many do you have? Goodness me,
:12:58. > :13:02.with work, 60, maybe? 60? Easily. How can anyone remember 60? When you
:13:03. > :13:07.are asked for a password, you always put the one for another site and
:13:08. > :13:13.even then, you are not the wiser. If you write them down, someone could
:13:14. > :13:21.find them. What I do, I don't project which site it is. Can you
:13:22. > :13:25.then remember? No. Is yours unique? Why would they want to crack into
:13:26. > :13:31.it? To steal money from your account. They put in the monkey one,
:13:32. > :13:39.two, three, until it is right. Is it "monkey" ? You are close.
:13:40. > :13:44.Our inability to remember, Mexican city was to be holding us back from
:13:45. > :13:53.the expert advice, so I have come to meet Mr Memory. I need passwords I
:13:54. > :14:00.can remember. My favourite password is One Show. You need imagery and
:14:01. > :14:04.associations, virtual memory needs, like a paintbrush. It is a visual
:14:05. > :14:11.image, rather than the actual number. I then need the letter S. It
:14:12. > :14:19.will be this. It begins with the S, it is a swan. How do I put them
:14:20. > :14:24.together? You have to have links that tell a story. I am painting a
:14:25. > :14:29.picture with my paintbrush, but goodness, this one is blown out of
:14:30. > :14:34.the water by an H-bomb that has landed, I need comfort food, a
:14:35. > :14:41.doughnut. Having eaten the doughnut, I am afraid a visit to the WC is
:14:42. > :14:46.called for. You have done it, you have solved my problem is!
:14:47. > :14:50.Problem-solving I will be remembering all of my passwords from
:14:51. > :15:00.now on in. Now where did I put the key? He is really on his own. The
:15:01. > :15:06.thing that started the panic was this Heartbleed bug. Can you explain
:15:07. > :15:10.Mr Mark I shall try. This is basically a major flaw in a security
:15:11. > :15:17.software system. It is a dominant system. It is called SSL. If you see
:15:18. > :15:24.a little padlock in your browser of the site, that means it's a version
:15:25. > :15:27.of SS L. What happens is when you are on a website, behind-the-scenes
:15:28. > :15:31.there's a handshake going on between the site and your computer, back and
:15:32. > :15:37.forth with your information, keeping the lines of communication open.
:15:38. > :15:40.That is called the Heartbleed. This Heartbleed is the floor where
:15:41. > :15:46.potentially a hacker could reach in and grab the data, so the security
:15:47. > :15:51.system isn't working. But you see that padlock on an awful lot of
:15:52. > :15:53.sites, so a lot have been affected will stop Bethink up to half a
:15:54. > :15:59.million trusted servers have been affected, big and small sites.
:16:00. > :16:07.Facebook, Yahoo, Google, that sort of thing. It's a real mixture of
:16:08. > :16:13.sites. Do we change our passwords? The message is pretty confusing.
:16:14. > :16:17.Google say no, they detected early. Facebook and Yahoo say don't do it
:16:18. > :16:20.because of this but because it's a good thing to do every now and
:16:21. > :16:26.again. The thing to do is to check to see if the sites you used have
:16:27. > :16:30.been fixed, patched is the text speak for that. We have a link on
:16:31. > :16:34.our website to websites that are there, so you can type in a website
:16:35. > :16:38.and it will tell you whether it has been patched or not. There's no
:16:39. > :16:43.point in resetting the password if the site has not been patched
:16:44. > :16:48.because it still vulnerable. There's always a risk, some people start
:16:49. > :16:53.phishing, use it as an excuse to get at you. There will now be a whole
:16:54. > :16:58.spate of e-mails suggesting there's something wrong with your password,
:16:59. > :17:06.reset it, send them the details. Do it via the official channels. Last
:17:07. > :17:12.week, plans were announced for the phased closure of two Britain's deep
:17:13. > :17:14.pit coal mines, Kellingley in North Yorkshire and Thoresby in
:17:15. > :17:19.Nottinghamshire. This inevitably means job losses. Whilst the
:17:20. > :17:24.communities they consider the future, Alex has been there to
:17:25. > :17:33.Ammanford, where she grew up, to talk to people about their memories
:17:34. > :17:38.of the miners' strike, 30 years ago. This is where I grew up in south
:17:39. > :17:43.Wales and when I was little it was an area dominated by mining. So this
:17:44. > :17:49.is a man valley. Ammanford is right here. Here is where the colliery
:17:50. > :17:53.used to be. Over there now it has been turned into a housing estate.
:17:54. > :18:02.If you look across the whole valley, there's hardly any signs of the
:18:03. > :18:08.mining industry at all. On every single working miner to stop work
:18:09. > :18:13.and join this... I was seven when the miners' strike started and more
:18:14. > :18:16.watch 1984. I now know as an adult the hardship it brought to pit
:18:17. > :18:22.communities from South Wales to Scotland. But as a child, my
:18:23. > :18:27.recollections are patchy. One of the things I do remember is being on a
:18:28. > :18:30.school trip to Tenby. It was all the doubts that had brought the children
:18:31. > :18:37.instead of the mums. At the time, this meant nothing to me because my
:18:38. > :18:41.dad wasn't a minor. Aled and I grew up on the same street, and his
:18:42. > :18:49.father was a minor on strike. We were young children back in 84, 85.
:18:50. > :18:52.I remember very clearly you and your brother would come over in the
:18:53. > :18:57.morning because you'd have a lift with us to school in our orange
:18:58. > :19:01.camper van. But I don't think any of us realised that was happening,
:19:02. > :19:05.because your family couldn't run a car. We thought it was just
:19:06. > :19:09.convenience more than anything else. I just thought we were having lived
:19:10. > :19:14.with you because you had the biggest car, so you could accommodate all
:19:15. > :19:19.the kids nearby and takers in the minibus. Can you remember how the
:19:20. > :19:24.strike impacted you as a family? I remember dad being home a lot, not
:19:25. > :19:29.being able to afford food really, relying on hand-outs from family and
:19:30. > :19:34.friends. One Christmas they couldn't even afford Christmas presents for
:19:35. > :19:37.us. We have to come down to the welfare here and pick up a Christmas
:19:38. > :19:43.hamper, just so we could have Christmas. In 1984, there were more
:19:44. > :19:48.than 20,000 men employed in the South Wales coalfields. More than
:19:49. > :19:52.500 of them lived in my hometown of Ammanford. With nearly all the men
:19:53. > :19:56.on strike, the women became the backbone of the community. Gian
:19:57. > :20:01.Graham and her husband, Alan, remember it well. Tell me, what was
:20:02. > :20:07.it like being a minor's wife during that time? I was the one that was
:20:08. > :20:12.working. My money went to pay the mortgage. But we were very fortunate
:20:13. > :20:16.that I was working. A lot of people lost their homes. You were one of
:20:17. > :20:20.the flying pickets, Alan. Your job was to dissuade the miners from
:20:21. > :20:26.breaking the strike. Not just locally, you went across the
:20:27. > :20:32.country. We went up as far as Coventry. We were in Brixton. We
:20:33. > :20:36.were there for a whole year. Other people in Brixton were marvellous to
:20:37. > :20:47.us. We had stalls in the market, everybody selling. Then the other
:20:48. > :20:54.boys would go round collecting. The people of the colleges were putting
:20:55. > :20:59.us up. They would give you their last bit of food. They were really
:21:00. > :21:03.supportive. In the centre of Ammanford there's a place that
:21:04. > :21:08.became a lifeline for many of the mining families. So how important
:21:09. > :21:16.was the welfare hall to the community at that time? These sort
:21:17. > :21:20.of facilities, built by the mining community for the miners, became
:21:21. > :21:26.versatile for feeding them during these terrible times. As the strike
:21:27. > :21:29.progressed, we work shelling out food parcels, carrying out
:21:30. > :21:39.collections throughout the country. We had children starving, family
:21:40. > :21:44.stopping. A year later in 1985, after one of the longest strikes in
:21:45. > :21:48.our industrial history, the miners returned to work defeated but not
:21:49. > :21:52.broken. It was really important for me to come back and learn about the
:21:53. > :21:57.bitter disputes that were raging while I was growing up here. The
:21:58. > :22:01.miners' strike of 84 will always be remembered. It has left its mark on
:22:02. > :22:06.the town. Even though the pits are long gone. As we were watching
:22:07. > :22:11.that, it's incredible, it's part of both of our childhoods. It's
:22:12. > :22:17.fascinating, I was just seven at the time. When he was talking about the
:22:18. > :22:22.support there was for miners throughout Great Britain, people
:22:23. > :22:27.would know, living miles away from the pits, they were raising money,
:22:28. > :22:32.sending food and going to help out in solidarity. They were very dark
:22:33. > :22:36.days but there was a great spirit from that time. Human spirit came
:22:37. > :22:40.into it. If you are a creature who has recently had to relocate to a
:22:41. > :22:45.different part of the UK, well, you might be finding it difficult to
:22:46. > :22:48.adjust. But take heart because Marty Jobson's butterflies are living
:22:49. > :22:53.proof that you can get used to anything. Butterflies are among the
:22:54. > :22:59.prettiest insects in Britain. Yet across the country their numbers are
:23:00. > :23:09.declining. But there is one species that is bucking the trend. Meet the
:23:10. > :23:13.Brown Argus Butterfly. It can be found in England and Wales and lives
:23:14. > :23:19.for about two weeks or so. While populations of this little beauty
:23:20. > :23:25.are thriving, 70% of other Butterfly populations in this country are in
:23:26. > :23:33.decline. So what's going on? To find out, I'm joining a group of amateur
:23:34. > :23:36.naturalists in Somerset. They regularly survey butterfly
:23:37. > :23:41.populations in this area. We see what butterfly species are there and
:23:42. > :23:45.send that information back into the Butterfly conservation. When data
:23:46. > :23:50.from volunteer groups like these around Britain was collated, an
:23:51. > :23:56.intriguing trend emerged. The purple dots show the sites where Brown
:23:57. > :24:00.Argus was found in the 70s. 20 years ago, hardly any were found north of
:24:01. > :24:06.Sheffield. The yellow dots are all the new sites they've spread too.
:24:07. > :24:11.They've spread 50 miles further north and can now be found in York.
:24:12. > :24:15.It doesn't seem like a particularly big difference but when you consider
:24:16. > :24:18.the butterfly is only about three centimetres across and doesn't
:24:19. > :24:21.normally roam much more than a couple of hundred metres, it is a
:24:22. > :24:28.remarkable expansion. I've come to meet butterfly expert to understand
:24:29. > :24:33.what is driving this spread northwards. It seems that this is in
:24:34. > :24:37.response to recent climate change. But the warming climate, they've
:24:38. > :24:44.been able to exploit new habitats that previously were a bit too cold
:24:45. > :24:48.for them. The Brown Argus is genetically predisposed to lay its
:24:49. > :24:52.eggs on a particular plant. This gives its caterpillar is the best
:24:53. > :24:57.chance of survival, because they start life feeding on the plant they
:24:58. > :25:05.live on. In the south, the Brown Argus lays its eggs on the common
:25:06. > :25:09.rock 'n' roll -- grows. As temperatures have increased, the
:25:10. > :25:13.Brown Argus has spread north. In the absence of its favourite plant, it
:25:14. > :25:18.has switched to laying its eggs on geraniums instead. It looked like
:25:19. > :25:24.these butterflies had evolved in a short period of time, to prefer a
:25:25. > :25:30.different plant. To investigate, we set up an experiment. Under each
:25:31. > :25:39.shopping basket she put four plans. Two what grows and two geraniums.
:25:40. > :25:44.Butterflies were collected from the northern and southern sides and put
:25:45. > :25:47.one under each basket. After three sunny days she counted the number of
:25:48. > :25:59.eggs on each plant, which indicates which planned the butterfly prefers.
:26:00. > :26:03.This particular female, from a northern population, prefers
:26:04. > :26:09.geranium. The northern ones have changed. They'd rather be on
:26:10. > :26:13.geraniums than rockroses given the chance. There's a genetic component
:26:14. > :26:20.of that. Butterflies are hard-wired to a choice for one or the other
:26:21. > :26:23.planned. Analysing the DNA of the butterflies confirmed that the
:26:24. > :26:27.populations are genetically different. We usually think of
:26:28. > :26:31.evolution as a process that takes millions of years, but the Brown
:26:32. > :26:38.Argus has evolved in just a few decades. So how did it happen? 40
:26:39. > :26:44.years ago, the butterflies laid their eggs on the rockrose plant in
:26:45. > :26:46.the south. But in a few sites some used geraniums instead. As the
:26:47. > :26:51.climate warmed, these trailblazers were able to move north, passing
:26:52. > :26:58.their geranium loving genes onto next generation. Now, in the new
:26:59. > :27:05.northern populations, Brown Argus thrive on geranium plans. These
:27:06. > :27:09.results are incredibly exciting. The new northern population is
:27:10. > :27:14.genetically different from the old southern population, and the Brown
:27:15. > :27:21.Argus is evolving. Natural selection is taking place in just a few
:27:22. > :27:25.decades. Hopefully we will be seeing numbers creeping up again this
:27:26. > :27:31.summer. That's almost it for this evening. Huge thanks to Billy. He is
:27:32. > :27:36.live -- his live at the union Chapel DVD is out now. I'm back tomorrow
:27:37. > :27:40.night with Richard Madeley, Omid Djalili is our guest. Here is Billy
:27:41. > :27:43.with his version of a song that is really fitting for today. We made by
:27:44. > :27:45.the Hillsborough Justice Collective a couple of years ago, its The
:27:46. > :28:01.Hollies classic, He Ain't Heavy. # The road is long.
:28:02. > :28:14.# With many a winding turn. # That leads us to.
:28:15. > :28:27.# Who knows where, who knows where? # But I'm strong.
:28:28. > :28:37.# Strong enough to carry him. # He ain't heavy.
:28:38. > :28:51.# He's my brother. # So on we go.
:28:52. > :29:03.# His welfare is my concern. # No burden is he.
:29:04. > :29:16.# To bear, we will get there. # For I know.
:29:17. > :29:22.# He will not encumber me. # He ain't heavy.
:29:23. > :29:31.# He's my brother.