:00:17. > :00:23.Hello and welcome to the One Show with Matt Baker. And Alex Jones.
:00:24. > :00:27.Before we go any further, we would like to warn you that tonight's show
:00:28. > :00:32.does contain adverts, but as they offer products that are 50 years I
:00:33. > :00:37.think we will be all right. Yes, Gyles will meet the men who raced to
:00:38. > :00:40.get the first ad on TV. Talking of things that are around 50 years
:00:41. > :00:52.old, let's welcome tonight's guest, David Baddiel. Around 50 years. I am
:00:53. > :00:59.49, Howard there you! -- how dare you. The British public think I am
:01:00. > :01:08.27. We were told you wanted to talk about your age. I don't mind. I am
:01:09. > :01:14.49. It is great. Is there a party on the way? 450? I have not thought
:01:15. > :01:22.about the party yet, but you are both invited. Is Frank coming? Frank
:01:23. > :01:26.will be there. Of course, this is a very creative time of your life and
:01:27. > :01:32.we will be talking about David's stand-up tour in a bit. Now, 12
:01:33. > :01:34.Years A Slave, which was nominated for nine Oscars today, has strong
:01:35. > :01:47.links to the UK and not just because of its links to -- it's leading
:01:48. > :01:50.actor and director are British. Modern-day Glasgow is best known for
:01:51. > :01:54.its arts, the Commonwealth Games and its music scene, so you would not
:01:55. > :01:57.have necessarily known that the city could have had a dog passed, one
:01:58. > :02:03.that played a pivotal role in the slave trade.
:02:04. > :02:07.The film 12 Years A Slave has recently brought the horrors of
:02:08. > :02:11.slavery to the forefront of our minds, reminding cities such as
:02:12. > :02:18.restore and Liverpool of their own easy past. -- Bristol and Liverpool.
:02:19. > :02:21.But it is Glasgow's involvement in the slave trade that Professor Geoff
:02:22. > :02:27.Palmer believes needs to be remembered. Scotland benefited a
:02:28. > :02:31.great deal from the tobacco, sugar and cotton trade and incorporated
:02:32. > :02:33.the use of slaves at the time. Merchant house was built as a
:02:34. > :02:38.meeting place for the city's merchants. The busts and artwork in
:02:39. > :02:47.this building are testament to the wealth which was generated from the
:02:48. > :02:58.city's involvement in slavery. Here we have James McCammon, a merchant
:02:59. > :03:02.in Glasgow -- James Buchanan. He was a rich man. ?10,000 at that time
:03:03. > :03:25.would be over a million. If we move on to James Ewing, who owned a MP
:03:26. > :03:31.William Wilberforce fought to abolish the slave trade. He was up
:03:32. > :03:35.against Henry Dundas, who prevented abolition for around 30 years.
:03:36. > :03:40.Geoffrey, you have brought us to the people's Palace to show us this
:03:41. > :03:43.painting. Why? This is a very important painting. If you look at
:03:44. > :03:51.any book on slavery, you will find this painting. This man was one of
:03:52. > :04:01.the earliest and one of the richest tobacco lords. If you look to the
:04:02. > :04:07.left, there is an image which we believe is a blackboard who in fact
:04:08. > :04:11.belonged to him. -- a black boy. You can just see. Maybe people just did
:04:12. > :04:16.not know about the slave trade and how it was linked to Scotland. He
:04:17. > :04:20.did not see slaves around, did you? The slave trade was well organised,
:04:21. > :04:26.but it was in the Caribbean or the United States. It was not in
:04:27. > :04:29.Scotland, so you would not see. That at merchant house, it was time to
:04:30. > :04:34.find out what this dude and is thought about their city's heritage.
:04:35. > :04:38.Professor, thank you for all that information. Did any of it surprise
:04:39. > :04:43.you? Year, is surprising that streets like Buchanan street, that
:04:44. > :04:47.we walk up and down every day, were founded on money from the slave
:04:48. > :04:52.trade, something I did not realise at all before today. Without these
:04:53. > :04:56.links, we would not have the city we all live in now, so you have to
:04:57. > :05:02.member that they did some good for the city. Reverend Doctor Ian White
:05:03. > :05:08.believes that awareness could be more widespread. I don't think we
:05:09. > :05:11.should be relieved well -- be relieved well and allow ourselves to
:05:12. > :05:17.be paralysed with guilt, but I do think that if we understand what we
:05:18. > :05:21.as human beings do and are capable of doing and learn from the past,
:05:22. > :05:26.then we can hopefully go forward into the future. Slavery was finally
:05:27. > :05:29.declared illegal in the British Empire in 1833 and was eventually
:05:30. > :05:38.abolished across plantations in 1838.
:05:39. > :05:41.Wow, a lot of surprises for me. Angellica is here now. So you have
:05:42. > :05:45.been looking at research done by the University College London into the
:05:46. > :05:50.British slave trade and the compensation on the back of it. What
:05:51. > :05:54.have you found out? When slavery was abolished in 1833, a compensation
:05:55. > :05:59.scheme was set up by the British government. ?20 million was paid
:06:00. > :06:03.out, which equates to ?16 billion today's money. That was nearly half
:06:04. > :06:08.of the government spend for that year. But none of that money went to
:06:09. > :06:12.the slaves. That went to the slave owners and their families, who felt
:06:13. > :06:17.that they have lost out on their property. We know that about 30,000
:06:18. > :06:21.families put a claim in. They had no qualms about doing that. If you want
:06:22. > :06:25.to find out more about how much was given out and who got the money, the
:06:26. > :06:30.UCL have set up a database. You can go online and find out which
:06:31. > :06:38.properties, you could be sitting in a property right now which was built
:06:39. > :06:41.on compensation money. Obviously, the amount of money you got depended
:06:42. > :06:47.on how many slaves you had, but also where they were from? Yet, so if you
:06:48. > :06:50.had a slave from British Dayan, it was worth more than a slave from
:06:51. > :06:57.Jamaica. The biggest pay-out went to an MP called James Black, who owned
:06:58. > :07:02.nearly 1600 slaves. He was awarded ?65 million in today's money. He is
:07:03. > :07:09.no relation of Tony, is he? Tell me he is not. That is shocking. I am
:07:10. > :07:13.sure it will come as news to a few people. It is a remarkable amount of
:07:14. > :07:17.money. What did they spend it on, apart from houses? Half the money
:07:18. > :07:22.was spent abroad and half was spent in this country. A lot was spent on
:07:23. > :07:26.renovating state he homes or building new estates. Howard house
:07:27. > :07:30.in Leeds was owned by Henry Lascelles, who got a big
:07:31. > :07:36.compensation pay-out after losing his slave sugar plantations in the
:07:37. > :07:39.West Indies. I did a documentary for the BBC a while back about
:07:40. > :07:42.reparation for a cost victims. When you first told me about this, I
:07:43. > :07:47.assumed it was the same kind of thing for people who suffered under
:07:48. > :07:54.slavery on but it was the opposite. No, it did not go to the victims.
:07:55. > :08:01.Obviously, a lot of money would then go into running that business.
:08:02. > :08:06.Now, we have all got our favourite television adverts, whether it is
:08:07. > :08:12.the Shake n'Vac lady, singing and shaking over the carpet. Or they are
:08:13. > :08:15.white man sneaking around in the middle of the night just to get a
:08:16. > :08:22.glass of lemonade without his wife finding out. Remember this one,
:08:23. > :08:28.David? That was me, actually! There is a resemblance. Wasn't that Elvis
:08:29. > :08:35.Costello's dad? That was not him, but it was his dad singing. Looks
:08:36. > :08:38.like him because of the glasses. But how did the first television
:08:39. > :08:44.commercials get on air? Gyles is switching over to the other side to
:08:45. > :08:47.find out. When Britain first curled up in
:08:48. > :08:53.front of the box, there was only one channel to watch, the BBC. But
:08:54. > :09:00.auntie's dominance of the airwaves would soon be -- airwaves would soon
:09:01. > :09:04.be under attack. The new television bill meant that viewers would soon
:09:05. > :09:07.be able to switch over to a new commercial channel, one carrying
:09:08. > :09:19.advertising selling everything from cigarettes to soap powder, from cars
:09:20. > :09:24.to toothpaste. TV advertising across the Atlantic had already begun some
:09:25. > :09:29.13 years earlier. But in Britain, along with church leaders and MPs,
:09:30. > :09:33.the BBC's founder, Lord Rees, likened it to the bubonic plague. On
:09:34. > :09:39.the other side of this battle ground were a new breed, advertising
:09:40. > :09:44.executives who saw the potential to make big money. People were
:09:45. > :09:50.apprehensive. They thought it would be cheap and nasty. At a rival
:09:51. > :09:56.agency, 26-year-old copywriter Brian Palmer also remembers the backlash
:09:57. > :10:00.that commercial TV faced. England were still very much on a war
:10:01. > :10:03.footing. Rationing was still in place and people said, advertising
:10:04. > :10:08.gets people to buy things they don't need. And the take-up of TV licences
:10:09. > :10:12.would double from 3 million to 6 million within two years, so there
:10:13. > :10:16.would be a growing audience for advertisers. Not surprisingly, the
:10:17. > :10:19.biggest bashing the TV ads got was from those who stood to lose their
:10:20. > :10:25.advertising revenue, the newspapers. Fleet Street was awash
:10:26. > :10:29.with horrifying stories of how, on the American television networks,
:10:30. > :10:38.Queen Elizabeth II's coronation was rudely interrupted by ads for cars,
:10:39. > :10:44.deodorants. And even by performing chimpanzee. Despite the moral
:10:45. > :10:50.panic, the television bill was voted through Parliament in July 1954.
:10:51. > :10:56.Advertisers now had barely a year to make Britain's first commercials
:10:57. > :11:01.ready for launch night. They were all keen to get in on the first day
:11:02. > :11:07.and ideally in the first slot. Archie's assignment was a
:11:08. > :11:10.bachelor's please. His rival's product was toothpaste. But having
:11:11. > :11:14.never made a television ad before, they ran into technical
:11:15. > :11:20.difficulties. Not many people knew how to film a toothpaste in a block
:11:21. > :11:25.of ice under lights. They don't go well together. So we were working it
:11:26. > :11:32.out as we went along. Britain's first commercial channel, ATV, would
:11:33. > :11:36.launch on the 22nd of September, 1955. Among the advertisers, a
:11:37. > :11:48.lottery would decide which commercial would go out first. Would
:11:49. > :11:52.it be Archie's ad for peas, or Brian's ad for toothpaste? The One
:11:53. > :11:55.Show has brought the two rivals together once again to relive that
:11:56. > :12:01.first night. What was the atmosphere like? Of course, we were
:12:02. > :12:05.apprehensive. We were very keen that it was successful. People from my
:12:06. > :12:10.office were looking at this little square box and wondering what was
:12:11. > :12:14.going to happen. There was a rivalry? Of course. This was a
:12:15. > :12:21.historic moment, and we wanted to be part of that. So on the 22nd of
:12:22. > :12:25.September 1955, let's see which of the two ads did come first. Gibbs
:12:26. > :12:29.toothpaste, the tingling fresh toothpaste that does your gums
:12:30. > :12:34.good, too. The tingle you get when you brush with SR is much more than
:12:35. > :12:38.a nice taste, it is a tingle of health. So yours was the first
:12:39. > :12:44.commercial on commercial television in this country. How did you feel?
:12:45. > :12:49.Very excited. It looks like a slide lecture now, but it was nice to get
:12:50. > :12:53.it across. It would have been nice to be first, but we were in the
:12:54. > :12:58.first break, and that was fine by us. Now we had the opportunity to
:12:59. > :13:04.take huge steps in the development of advertising as a medium. By the
:13:05. > :13:08.end of the 50s, television had grabbed a quarter of all the
:13:09. > :13:12.advertising revenue. The TV ad had won its battle to make its way onto
:13:13. > :13:17.our small screens. Over the next decade, it would prove to be the
:13:18. > :13:29.most powerful weapon in the adman's armoury.
:13:30. > :13:34.Archie still looks a bit disappointed. But he is king of the
:13:35. > :13:40.advertising. He was in the first ever ad break, so he put a positive
:13:41. > :13:45.slant on it. Would you do an advert, David? I do voice-overs.
:13:46. > :13:49.People say, we chose you because you have a deadpan voice . And they say,
:13:50. > :13:55.can you sound a bit more enthusiast Dick? I have been offered a few
:13:56. > :14:00.other but I have never read a script that is not a bit naff. Got a
:14:01. > :14:05.favourite? I have got to see the flick adverts. I liked the music. I
:14:06. > :14:09.will tell you what I did like. There was recently this advert where two
:14:10. > :14:13.kids are playing, like brothers, and one takes the other one up to bed
:14:14. > :14:17.because he has fallen asleep. And then he turns into his dad. I cannot
:14:18. > :14:27.watch it without crying. It gets me every time. I have loved all the
:14:28. > :14:31.Christmas adverts. There aren't many '70s rockers who would find it easy
:14:32. > :14:38.to record everything they did during that decade. Matt Allwright has been
:14:39. > :14:43.to meet a drummer. With 17 consecutive top 20 hits, and six UK
:14:44. > :14:48.number ones, glam-rockers Slade were one of the most successful bands of
:14:49. > :14:58.the 1970s. # Come feel the noise... #
:14:59. > :15:03.Yes, we all remember such hits as Come On Feel The Noise and Merry
:15:04. > :15:08.Christmas Everybody, but there is one person who can have trouble
:15:09. > :15:15.remembering. Surprisingly, it's Slade's drummer. He played with the
:15:16. > :15:18.band for almost 50 years. Early 1973, we were on the crest of a
:15:19. > :15:23.wave. Everything was going fantastic for us. We couldn't do any wrong.
:15:24. > :15:29.Then, it all came down like that, when I had my accident. Just three
:15:30. > :15:36.days after their biggest-ever gig, he was involved in an horrific car
:15:37. > :15:41.accident. I was unconscious for five days. I said, "You have to tell me
:15:42. > :15:46.what's happened. Please, someone tell me what's happened." That is
:15:47. > :15:50.when they started going into about the car accident and then my father
:15:51. > :16:00.came and he told me that my girlfriend had died.
:16:01. > :16:08.I couldn't really remember. I don't remember.
:16:09. > :16:13.When I was discharged from hospital, and I had to move back to my
:16:14. > :16:18.parents, I used to wake up in the morning and I thought I was still in
:16:19. > :16:23.hospital. I suddenly realised I wasn't. Mum would bring me a cup of
:16:24. > :16:28.tea or whatever, I would go back to sleep. When I woke up, it was like
:16:29. > :16:35.my slate had been wiped clean again. I didn't know where I was.
:16:36. > :16:42.40 years on, Don is back on the road with Slade. Two lots of chips,
:16:43. > :16:46.please. When I met him in Eastbourne, he explained how his
:16:47. > :16:50.amnesia continues to affect him. What do you think you have missed
:16:51. > :16:56.out on since the accident? What do you think it's taken away from you?
:16:57. > :17:02.Spontaneity. I can't do things like that anymore. Things have to sink
:17:03. > :17:06.in. Or it has to be written down. My diary is my Bible. I get to the
:17:07. > :17:12.bottom of the page from yesterday, the team from The One Show will be
:17:13. > :17:17.here 10.30-11.00. It is all written down. I have to live that way. How
:17:18. > :17:23.about family? Do they understand what is going on with you? Totally.
:17:24. > :17:26.My family have been incredible. My wife she totally understands all
:17:27. > :17:30.this situation. It is wonderful the way she helps me, you know. If we
:17:31. > :17:35.are going somewhere and we are being confronted by someone, I give her a
:17:36. > :17:41.nudge, "Where do we know them from?" Then she will tell me. There is
:17:42. > :17:46.another family who stood by Don over the years and that's Slade, his
:17:47. > :17:49.band. Dave Hill is the guitarist. Did you think that Don would be able
:17:50. > :17:53.to return to Slade after the accident? Or did you think that was
:17:54. > :17:58.it? We never thought that he wouldn't. It wasn't a question did
:17:59. > :18:06.we think that - the answer to that is he will return. Tell me how your
:18:07. > :18:15.memory loss has affected your playing? The classic, I said, "We'll
:18:16. > :18:21.do Merry Christmas." I'm going, "How does it go?" Then Jim or Dave would
:18:22. > :18:28.say, "It goes like this." # Are you hanging up
:18:29. > :18:31.# The stocking on the wall? # He needs a trigger point to remember
:18:32. > :18:36.the start. Then he will remember the rest.
:18:37. > :18:42.At 67, Don continues to tour with Slade, often struggling to recall
:18:43. > :18:46.those seemingly unforgettable tracks. Thankfully, his diary has
:18:47. > :18:51.been a lifeline that helps him remember just how he used to feel.
:18:52. > :18:55.When I read my diary, when I was having my biography done, reading
:18:56. > :19:01.the diaries again, I thought, "Wow, we did that?" It might seem strange
:19:02. > :19:08.to talk to someone about it, but it's a fascinating thing, really.
:19:09. > :19:15.Thank you for being so open with us Don. Don's book is available now.
:19:16. > :19:20.David, you are a musician yourself. Are you a fan of Slade? Slade are a
:19:21. > :19:26.great band. Because they were thought of a bit of a comedy thing,
:19:27. > :19:29.but they are a really good bandment I did notice Dave Hill was wearing a
:19:30. > :19:37.hat. I wanted to see if his haircut was the same. Listen, the last time
:19:38. > :19:42.we saw you, you were about to go on your first stand-up tour for 15
:19:43. > :19:48.years. How did it go? It went really well. I did the Edinburgh Festival.
:19:49. > :19:51.I was a bit nervous. I thought are people going to come and would you
:19:52. > :20:04.be accepted back in the comedy community. I remember once a
:20:05. > :20:09.comedian, Robin Ince, I said, "I thought you had given it up." He
:20:10. > :20:14.said, "People never let you go." The tour is about your life story. And
:20:15. > :20:18.the obscurities and trappings of fame. It is about the weirdness of
:20:19. > :20:26.fame, really. It is about what a strange and silly thing fame is. It
:20:27. > :20:35.is about how fame intrudes in the stupidest of ways. I went to
:20:36. > :20:39.Auschwitz once and a man came and stood by me and I thought he is
:20:40. > :20:47.going to say something, a great insight of real truth, a deep, moral
:20:48. > :20:53.complexity. He said, "Dave, when's Fantasy Football coming back?" That
:20:54. > :20:56.was it. You get into weird situations because of it. Is it
:20:57. > :21:01.weird that the more you tour and the more that you will tour, the more
:21:02. > :21:05.famous you get and so do you have to alter the material? No, I stay at
:21:06. > :21:08.the same kind of plateau. That is about perfect for me. I really like
:21:09. > :21:13.it there. Would you agree that the height of your fame was when the
:21:14. > :21:17.whole of Wembley Stadium were singing Three Lions? Maybe. That was
:21:18. > :21:20.amazing. And brilliant. To be honest, I don't think of that in
:21:21. > :21:25.terms of fame. Fame is a weird thing. Sometimes it can be great and
:21:26. > :21:29.sometimes it can be not so great. There it is. There is that moment.
:21:30. > :21:36.That was really emotional. Not so much for the Dutch fans! LAUGHTER It
:21:37. > :21:41.was - they were close friends of mine, obviously(!) It was this
:21:42. > :21:45.moment where in a way you felt swept up with the whole country's emotion.
:21:46. > :21:49.So, feeling that we were the cheerleaders of that, it was beyond
:21:50. > :21:54.the ideas of what is famous. It happens every time England end up in
:21:55. > :21:58.any competition, really. You must be bracing yourself for the summer for
:21:59. > :22:07.endless downloads? Yes, I'm looking forward to them, obviously! LAUGHTER
:22:08. > :22:12.People often ask if we are going to write a new one. We are not. The
:22:13. > :22:18.song stands as it was. It is solid. It is. By your own admission, your
:22:19. > :22:25.fame has been up-and-down a bit. We wondered how well Wembley remembers
:22:26. > :22:35.you. OK. You are going to laugh at it. I thought it was Steven
:22:36. > :22:42.Spielberg. He is a face from television. I thought he was the guy
:22:43. > :22:48.from Jurassic Park. He did that show with Frank Skinner. Baddiel
:22:49. > :22:55.something. It is David Baddiel! Yes. David Baddiel, that's it. I knew it.
:22:56. > :23:02.Oh God, he did the football song. Three Lions.
:23:03. > :23:09.# Three lions on a shirt # Jules Rimet still gleaming... #
:23:10. > :23:16.That was humiliating, but I will still get a royalty for that! That
:23:17. > :23:21.is what we were saying. You can put your feet up all summer! Next, to
:23:22. > :23:26.Cardigan Bay where Miranda Krestovnikoff is swimming with
:23:27. > :23:30.spider crabs. Britain sees lots of migrations,
:23:31. > :23:36.with millions of birds pouring in every year. But hidden underneath
:23:37. > :23:40.the waves in West Wales, there is another huge migration that is
:23:41. > :23:45.rarely seen. The spiney spider crab is one of our largest native crabs
:23:46. > :23:53.and every year, huge numbers of them walk hundreds of miles from far out
:23:54. > :23:57.at sea and along the coast to meet and breed. They are impressive
:23:58. > :24:02.animals. Males can reach almost a metre wide from claw to claw and
:24:03. > :24:06.there can be thousands congregating at once. Very little is known about
:24:07. > :24:10.their migrations, but if conditions are perfect, they will come right
:24:11. > :24:17.into shore and here in Cardigan Bay, they have done just that. These
:24:18. > :24:23.crabby gatherings are difficult to find, but local diver Brett Stones
:24:24. > :24:28.thinks he's discovered a favourite meeting place. Are they going to the
:24:29. > :24:33.same area every year? Almost the same rock, the same ten-metre square
:24:34. > :24:41.rock. They are big creatures, aren't they? These are big, impressive,
:24:42. > :24:44.alien-like crabs. When you get it in your hands, you have a very
:24:45. > :24:48.impressive animal. The crabs need to shed their shells to grow, so they
:24:49. > :24:53.group together here in the bay, partly for protection. And today,
:24:54. > :24:58.are you pretty hopeful we will see big numbers? I would like to see
:24:59. > :25:00.numbers. If they are on one rock and merge into one, potentially
:25:01. > :25:10.thousands. Let's get going. The crabs have come into a small
:25:11. > :25:17.cove eight miles along this stunning coastline. They are 20 metres from
:25:18. > :25:21.land and three-metres down so we can snorkel right up to them. These are
:25:22. > :25:26.creatures that are spending most of their life 50-plus metres of
:25:27. > :25:29.waterway out to sea coming in for this short window? Maybe two weeks
:25:30. > :25:31.we have got here. Perfect conditions. Let's get in. Very
:25:32. > :25:44.excited. Let's get in! The crabs hide amongst the seaweed
:25:45. > :25:50.for protection. Very quickly, I spot my first one. The visibility is
:25:51. > :25:54.almost like being in tropical waters. It is easily ten metres and
:25:55. > :25:57.every rock that I see is covered with a heaving mass of spiney spider
:25:58. > :26:04.crabs. There may not be thousands, but
:26:05. > :26:14.there are definitely hundreds down here.
:26:15. > :26:21.That is incredible. You can't see it from the boat. The moment you put
:26:22. > :26:26.your head under water, the rocks are encrusted with spider crabs. They
:26:27. > :26:31.are all over each other and they are all crawling around and hidden
:26:32. > :26:40.amongst the kelp. It is incredible. It is thought the crabs on the
:26:41. > :26:44.outside of the group are usually waiting to molt. They are sometimes
:26:45. > :26:49.called commandos because they cover themselves in seaweed and bits of
:26:50. > :26:57.sponge for camouflage. Time for a closer look. Wow, you have a big one
:26:58. > :27:03.there. A big male. As long as you stay away from these two, you will
:27:04. > :27:09.be fine. If you hold him upside-down, he will go into that
:27:10. > :27:14.protective mode. That is a heavyweight. Amazing. As well as
:27:15. > :27:19.walking vast distances, their huge legs are used in courtship. Having
:27:20. > :27:26.chosen a female, the male will guard and defend her until she is ready to
:27:27. > :27:32.mate. They have a varied diet and eat seaweed, and will also use their
:27:33. > :27:36.strong claws to break the shells of moluscs. This huge mass of crabs
:27:37. > :27:41.will only be here for a couple of weeks before they walk back out to
:27:42. > :27:44.deeper water again. To think that these alien-looking creatures could
:27:45. > :27:51.have travelled hundreds of miles to be right here. It is like Britain's
:27:52. > :27:56.own great migration - fantastic! Thank you. Nice to see a bit of sun
:27:57. > :28:01.there. Sorry for putting that film on. You are frightened of crabs? I
:28:02. > :28:07.am frightened of spiders. I don't have much of a problem with crabs -
:28:08. > :28:12.not the last time I checked! You do spend a bit of time by the seaside?
:28:13. > :28:19.Yes. I used to spend every summer in Swansea Bay. Where better! A few
:28:20. > :28:23.places, actually! LAUGHTER It was lovely. Do you find you can be a bit
:28:24. > :28:29.more creative by the sea? Yes, when it is not - when floods aren't
:28:30. > :28:34.overtaking... By Christmas time. Thank you for your company tonight.
:28:35. > :28:39.Thank you. That is it for tonight. David's nationwide tour starts on
:28:40. > :28:44.31st January in Salford and you are at the Southbank Centre in London
:28:45. > :28:49.from Tuesday 4th February. Yes. You may add some dates in Wales! There
:28:50. > :28:53.will be some soon! Alex has insisted. I will be back tomorrow
:28:54. > :28:56.with Chris. See you then. Good night.