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:00:16. > :00:17.Hello and welcome to The One Show with Michelle Ackerley.

:00:18. > :00:20.It's promising to be a very newsworthy week -

:00:21. > :00:27.Tomorrow, Theresa May will give a much-anticipated

:00:28. > :00:29.speech about Brexit, and on Friday, America

:00:30. > :00:33.will swear in its 45th president, Donald J Trump.

:00:34. > :00:36.So by the weekend it could be that we all need a break

:00:37. > :00:38.from the real-life drama, - which is where tonight's

:00:39. > :00:43.They star in Sunday night's big new thriller Apple Tree Yard -

:00:44. > :00:46.please welcome Emily Watson and Ben Chaplin!

:00:47. > :00:58.APPLAUSE Welcome to you both. Thank you.

:00:59. > :01:07.Before we go further I believe belated birthday celebrations are in

:01:08. > :01:14.order. How did it go? It was pretty fun. It was huge, it was off the

:01:15. > :01:22.hook. I thought it was your 30th. Smarten, smarm. Did you get a

:01:23. > :01:26.favourite gift by any chance? I got some really delightful gifts from my

:01:27. > :01:29.children which were very sweet. I got a beautiful lampshade from my

:01:30. > :01:35.daughter and a portrait of Yoda. LAUGHTER

:01:36. > :01:41.She's going to hang it on the wall beside Budde which is interesting.

:01:42. > :01:47.What a gift. Very good. Any shenanigans at the party, then, you

:01:48. > :01:53.were there? Any shenanigans? We were pretty civilised, we were just

:01:54. > :01:58.gently trolley to. I did go on to another pub afterwards. He went on a

:01:59. > :02:00.pub crawl afterwards. I took it on, tried to go straight through.

:02:01. > :02:06.We are going to talk more about this new drama shortly but before that

:02:07. > :02:10.one story that has been in the news over the last few days concerns a

:02:11. > :02:11.girl in the States being found 18 years after she went missing as a

:02:12. > :02:13.newborn baby. Closer to home, The One Show has

:02:14. > :02:15.discovered a sharp rise in complaints about how

:02:16. > :02:17.the police here handle missing person cases -

:02:18. > :02:29.Here's Nick Wallis. He was jovial, happy-go-lucky,

:02:30. > :02:32.always trying to cheer you up. 19-year-old was about to start the

:02:33. > :02:35.second year of the business to stomach studies degree and one night

:02:36. > :02:41.he left his home in Enfield to play football with his mates and never

:02:42. > :02:45.seen by his family again. -- business studies degree. Last time

:02:46. > :02:48.we saw him he was upset and having a row with his girlfriend on the

:02:49. > :02:52.phone. His mum and dad waited all weekend before calling the police to

:02:53. > :02:58.report her missing. The impression I'm getting from the police. From

:02:59. > :03:04.the first day. The typical teenager. Is going to come back. He has gone

:03:05. > :03:08.out and after a couple of weeks he will resurface. The officers'

:03:09. > :03:13.attitudes that they is one of several criticisms they have about

:03:14. > :03:16.the investigation and led them to lodge a complaint with the

:03:17. > :03:19.Independent police complaint commission about their handling of

:03:20. > :03:22.the case and it's one of many missing persons cases heading their

:03:23. > :03:26.way. The One Show has obtained figures which revealed the number of

:03:27. > :03:30.referrals to the police watchdog over the handling of missing persons

:03:31. > :03:35.cases has quadrupled over the last five years. Referrals have risen

:03:36. > :03:40.from 44-190 between 2011 and last year making up 5% of all cases going

:03:41. > :03:44.to be IPCC, although missing persons are not the only type to see an

:03:45. > :03:48.increase and some are reported automatically. Although the police

:03:49. > :03:50.cannot fully investigate every disappearance, his parents think the

:03:51. > :03:54.police should have been doing more. They believe their son might have

:03:55. > :03:57.been murdered. His girlfriend, on the other hand, told them he had

:03:58. > :04:03.previously threatened to commit suicide from London Bridge. They

:04:04. > :04:07.wanted both claims looked into. I said to them, please can you go and

:04:08. > :04:14.check London Bridge CCTV. Did that get checked? No. He said anyway, if

:04:15. > :04:18.he has done it there are thousands of cameras in London and we won't be

:04:19. > :04:21.able to do that. Whether CCTV was looked at or not two months after

:04:22. > :04:26.disappearing local police issued a missing persons appeal. It would be

:04:27. > :04:31.another two months before his parents received the news they had

:04:32. > :04:34.been dreading. On the 26th of December the police knocked at the

:04:35. > :04:39.door and said to me we have the body and we think it might be his body.

:04:40. > :04:44.And what they were about to discover next is one of the main reasons for

:04:45. > :04:48.their complaint. His body had been lying in a morgue for over two

:04:49. > :04:54.months after being spotted by a passer-by here in the police

:04:55. > :04:57.launched the official appeal. He had only been identified after a

:04:58. > :05:02.speculative search of the National DNA database. His parents feel they

:05:03. > :05:10.could have been spared several weeks of anxiety. It took them so long to

:05:11. > :05:13.tell us what happened to him. The worst thing is he is sleeping in a

:05:14. > :05:19.morgue and they are still investigating. I feel that the

:05:20. > :05:24.police has been racist with us. Why do you think the police were acting

:05:25. > :05:28.in a racist manner towards you? Because every time we tried to

:05:29. > :05:35.approach them in whatever way they kind of shot is down. That is not

:05:36. > :05:39.evidence of racism, is it? No, no, but I feel because I come from an

:05:40. > :05:43.ethnic minority group that's the way I've been treated. Former but report

:05:44. > :05:49.police Detective Chief Inspector Chris Kirkham has worked on many

:05:50. > :05:51.missing persons cases. What do the police have to be mindful of when

:05:52. > :05:55.dealing with families who have reported someone missing?

:05:56. > :06:00.It's very difficult to manage your dealings with the family to start

:06:01. > :06:03.with. They are very worried and one of the police are trying to do,

:06:04. > :06:08.knowing that the vast majority of missing people turn up in 48 hours,

:06:09. > :06:11.is to reduce their stress and try and stop worrying unduly. His body

:06:12. > :06:18.was lying in a morgue for a number of weeks before was identified. How

:06:19. > :06:22.unusual is that? It is not that unusual to take quite some time to

:06:23. > :06:26.identify unidentified bodies found. Is there a problem here that for the

:06:27. > :06:30.police they are doing a job but for the families of the bereaved their

:06:31. > :06:33.whole life has fallen apart? There is certainly that aspect to it. It

:06:34. > :06:37.would be nice to spend a couple of hours doing things as you would

:06:38. > :06:41.really want to do them but police officers really can't. The resources

:06:42. > :06:51.to be to do these sort of things are not there especially with 20% cuts

:06:52. > :06:53.over the last six years. The Metropolitan Police would not

:06:54. > :06:55.comment on the case while the IPCC investigation is ongoing but in an

:06:56. > :06:57.earlier statement they refuted any suggestion of racism and said the

:06:58. > :07:02.time taken to identify Krishna's body was beyond their control. The

:07:03. > :07:06.coroner returned an open verdict but his parents are convinced there is

:07:07. > :07:11.more to their son's death. They washed their hands of whatever

:07:12. > :07:15.happened to Krishna. I still don't believe that my son is gone deep

:07:16. > :07:22.down and we have been treated like that.

:07:23. > :07:26.We hope Krishna's family get the answers they are looking for.

:07:27. > :07:28.With us is Karen Robinson from charity Missing People,

:07:29. > :07:30.who work with both families and the police.

:07:31. > :07:37.We saw one of the officers in the film talking about blaming

:07:38. > :07:46.complaints on budget cuts. Would you agree with that? Anyone watching

:07:47. > :07:51.that would agree that Pradeep and Medha want answers and they deserve

:07:52. > :07:53.those answers. In context, 20% cuts to police budgets from central

:07:54. > :08:02.government mean that while missing numbers are rising. We're working

:08:03. > :08:05.with the national policing lead and every police force in the country at

:08:06. > :08:09.the charity Missing People to make sure that when someone goes missing

:08:10. > :08:13.and they are missing their son like that family were, they know the

:08:14. > :08:18.charity is here 24 hours a day for support from our expert family

:08:19. > :08:23.support workers. The number of missing people reported is

:08:24. > :08:29.staggering. It is roughly 300,000 people reported every year. And

:08:30. > :08:32.rising. When that happens, Karen, what should happen? You say you help

:08:33. > :08:36.the police as well, but what actually happens? If anybody

:08:37. > :08:39.watching this needs to report somebody missing to the police they

:08:40. > :08:42.can expect to answer a lot of questions and those questions might

:08:43. > :08:46.feel invasive, they will ask what happened that day, in the preceding

:08:47. > :08:49.week, what relationships are like at home, they will want to know what

:08:50. > :08:52.the person is wearing and those questions might feel a bit daunting.

:08:53. > :08:55.They will want to come round and searched the property. That might

:08:56. > :09:03.seem a bit weird because the family will often say I've already searched

:09:04. > :09:06.the property and I know they are not here. Those things are completely

:09:07. > :09:08.normal and our role at Missing People is to make sure families

:09:09. > :09:11.understand what is happening. Beta referred to the police not having a

:09:12. > :09:19.couple of hours to explain that to the family but we do and we do that,

:09:20. > :09:24.every police force should tell every family about us. It's interesting

:09:25. > :09:28.you talk about what people should expect. Do you feel the influence of

:09:29. > :09:32.TV on certain dramas can skew people's expectations of what they

:09:33. > :09:35.should expect? The whole thing with 24 hours that you should leave until

:09:36. > :09:40.you report a person missing, those kind of things have come through TV

:09:41. > :09:44.dramas and things like that. Do you think that influences things? It

:09:45. > :09:49.does and in our experience that can lead people to delay making a

:09:50. > :09:54.missing person report they think they have to wit 24 hours but they

:09:55. > :09:57.don't. If you are watching this you are the best person to decide

:09:58. > :10:01.whether something needs to be reported to the police. For a

:10:02. > :10:04.four-year-old two minutes is a long time to wait but if one of us

:10:05. > :10:06.doesn't make it to where we are expected this evening the people

:10:07. > :10:10.expecting us home will know what a normal amount of time for us to

:10:11. > :10:13.perhaps be a little bit late. Use your judgment and have the

:10:14. > :10:17.confidence to call the police. I work with police forces all over the

:10:18. > :10:21.UK and they would be devastated to think that somebody waited too long.

:10:22. > :10:25.Most people are found very quickly, thankfully. 90% of people will be

:10:26. > :10:29.found within 24 hours so the good news is most people are found safe

:10:30. > :10:32.and well, they are found very quickly, and when we work together

:10:33. > :10:36.with the police, the charity and the police are doing everything we can

:10:37. > :10:39.to find that person and support the family.

:10:40. > :10:46.Karen, thank you for the clarity and what you can do. If you'd like more

:10:47. > :10:49.information about the issues you can have a look at the website.

:10:50. > :10:51.In 1970 three women attempted an epic rally race from London

:10:52. > :10:55.to Mexico, but it ended in failure in an Argentinian ditch.

:10:56. > :11:00.Now nearly 50 years on, two of them are coming out

:11:01. > :11:05.of retirement to try racing again, and they took Lucy for a spin.

:11:06. > :11:20.Built in 1969, 1500 cc engine, 95 brake horsepower, the Austin Maxi.

:11:21. > :11:35.Puff the Magic Dragon as known to her on a 72-year-old Mrs Burrell.

:11:36. > :11:39.Nice to meet you. This is the Magic Dragon. She was given the chance to

:11:40. > :11:47.buy the car back and after a good rummage under the bonnet she is

:11:48. > :11:51.ready to rally once again. In 1970 they embarked on a Sistine thousand

:11:52. > :11:54.mile rally from London to Mexico but an accident meant they didn't make

:11:55. > :12:00.it to the finish line and afterwards the team went their separate ways.

:12:01. > :12:04.-- 16,000 miles. The car is back in action and they have big plans.

:12:05. > :12:08.Emotionally what does it feel like to be back? Its emotional because I

:12:09. > :12:14.never thought this day would come, I never thought I would be back with

:12:15. > :12:18.Puff and Tina. I need a new knee but I have a new lease of life. Tina,

:12:19. > :12:22.what was your role on the team? It was a matter of one would sleep, one

:12:23. > :12:26.would navigate and one would Drive and we would take it in turns. We

:12:27. > :12:30.used to do three days and the third day have a night's sleep if we were

:12:31. > :12:37.lucky and go on for another three days. You know I've never been a

:12:38. > :12:42.rally car? No! ? Come on, girl, grabbed a helmet. 40 years on and

:12:43. > :12:49.with her beloved but the Magic Dragon back in her position they are

:12:50. > :12:54.back on track. I must say I do love the speed. I didn't know I did. I

:12:55. > :12:57.went to a driving school and got faster and faster and I suddenly

:12:58. > :13:03.said you better slowdown, beginners are not supposed to do 70 mph. This

:13:04. > :13:10.is so much fun! I don't like the corners! The Sunday would be a

:13:11. > :13:14.sprint after the normal rally on the Friday and then I would be back at

:13:15. > :13:17.work on Monday. My rallying life stopped abruptly when my mother

:13:18. > :13:23.died, I had to go back to New Zealand and I fell out of the sport.

:13:24. > :13:30.So, why now? I think because the car is available. Puff rides again. Puff

:13:31. > :13:34.is going to run again, yes she is. She is repeating her steps from 1970

:13:35. > :13:36.and we are going from London to Lisbon.

:13:37. > :13:44.Tremendous, we are going to catch up with them, aren't we as soon as the

:13:45. > :13:49.rally finishes? We are going to talk about Apple Tree Yard, this big

:13:50. > :13:51.drama on Sunday nights. Let's do a driving related incident because you

:13:52. > :14:00.just said something interesting during the filming with cars. Go on.

:14:01. > :14:05.After you. We had a driving scene together and I have a terrible sense

:14:06. > :14:09.of direction but then's is worse. The worst in the world, I think. I

:14:10. > :14:13.was driving so it was his fault, he was opposed to tell me where we were

:14:14. > :14:18.going to go. I thought they would have you on those trailers. This is

:14:19. > :14:21.the BBC, we can't afford the trailers, we were just driving

:14:22. > :14:27.around. We got back to almost the location and we were running out of

:14:28. > :14:30.time and light. He sent me completely the wrong way. I said it

:14:31. > :14:33.was that way authoritatively and it was completely wrong and we were

:14:34. > :14:39.delayed getting back. It is really difficult. It was the crew, you are

:14:40. > :14:42.trying to say? As well as driving you are supposed to be acting a

:14:43. > :14:45.really intense scene and it's really dangerous because when you are

:14:46. > :14:48.acting all of your safety things go out of the window.

:14:49. > :14:55.LAUGHTER Absolute shambles, basically. Yes,

:14:56. > :14:59.it was. Let's talk about Apple Tree Yard. Yvonne, your character, must

:15:00. > :15:03.make a dramatic life decision. Tell us more about how that happens? I do

:15:04. > :15:07.know how much of a rational decision it is, it is a spur of the moment

:15:08. > :15:14.thing that happens to her. She is a woman my age who has a very nice,

:15:15. > :15:18.proper life. She has a long marriage, they have grown up

:15:19. > :15:22.children, she has a grandchild on the way. She is a geneticist, she

:15:23. > :15:25.has a great career, and suddenly out of the blue she suddenly starts

:15:26. > :15:32.having this passionate affair with a random stranger, which at the

:15:33. > :15:39.beginning of it is sort of very beguiling and exciting because it is

:15:40. > :15:45.Ben. Random stranger. My character name! Let's have a look at the

:15:46. > :15:51.moment where things start to simmer. It gets hot in here. You don't look

:15:52. > :15:59.like a civil servant. You don't look like a scientist.

:16:00. > :16:21.Assume neither of us is looking for a parachute. Absolutely not.

:16:22. > :16:29.It gets very steamy, it is interesting to see your reactions

:16:30. > :16:36.watching that because the long pauses, it is quite tense. Was that

:16:37. > :16:42.something that developed? They were very filled, those long pauses. Yes.

:16:43. > :16:46.I don't know. It is partly direction and editing. It was one of those

:16:47. > :16:52.things where we wanted to make it feel very real, and Ben and I have

:16:53. > :16:55.known each other for a long time, we've made two films before this so

:16:56. > :17:02.we had a level of comfort that meant a lot of the time we were in danger

:17:03. > :17:07.of laughing. We were, and that is not a bad place to be. Is it true

:17:08. > :17:17.that you asked for him to get the role? She got me the job. When you

:17:18. > :17:25.heard this was about to uncover, what were your thoughts? It was a

:17:26. > :17:34.very exciting script, it really was, great character, but it has a lot of

:17:35. > :17:41.love scenes in it. Does it make it easier or harder that you know each

:17:42. > :17:51.other? I had not been through that before. You've done a lot of

:17:52. > :17:59.kissing. I have done. We were talking and it was exciting, but we

:18:00. > :18:05.were saying, because we know each other, isn't it going to be worse?

:18:06. > :18:20.She thought that all the way through. One thing we are very proud

:18:21. > :18:24.of, we decided we would talk about it in a grown-up way and planet. Are

:18:25. > :18:29.saved from the steam and raunchiness it is a fantastic drama on BBC One

:18:30. > :18:31.this Sunday evening at 9pm. Thankfully last Friday's storm surge

:18:32. > :18:33.down the east coast didn't cause as much flooding as feared,

:18:34. > :18:37.but you can see from this just how You can bet that

:18:38. > :18:40.there'll be more bad weather before winter is out -

:18:41. > :18:43.and Andy Torbet has put himself in peril to show you how to escape

:18:44. > :18:56.if the very worst happens. Finding yourself in a critical

:18:57. > :19:03.situation is something that many of us will never experience but for one

:19:04. > :19:11.family from North Devon this turned into a life or death situation in a

:19:12. > :19:19.very short period of time. Vanessa and her son were on the way home. We

:19:20. > :19:23.were driving home and found ourselves in deceptively deep

:19:24. > :19:29.floodwater. When we entered it, it was like driving into a swimming

:19:30. > :19:34.pool, and what came into the cab and was immediately above my ankles. I

:19:35. > :19:40.feel stupid because I've attempted to open the door and that would have

:19:41. > :19:48.been catastrophic. The electrics failed because my window and door

:19:49. > :19:54.would not move. Luckily her husband had opened his window before the

:19:55. > :19:57.electrics shorted. I passed my son out of the window but I was

:19:58. > :20:05.terrified that if the vehicle capsized I would be pinned

:20:06. > :20:10.underneath it and underwater. Fortunately, Vanessa was rescued but

:20:11. > :20:14.many others have lost their lives in similar situations. It can take less

:20:15. > :20:26.than a minute for your car to fill with water. If it ends up it will

:20:27. > :20:31.sink quickly. What should you do? There are two schools of thought.

:20:32. > :20:38.Some say, get the window down as soon as possible. Others say, leave

:20:39. > :20:47.the window up. Get the door open and get out. The window option relies on

:20:48. > :20:52.quick reactions, the other holding your breath. How do these plans

:20:53. > :21:00.compare? We will put these theories to the test. I'm going to submerge

:21:01. > :21:07.this car in water. This is genuinely dangerous so I have a safety team on

:21:08. > :21:12.hand, including a diver in the car with a spare a supply. I'm going to

:21:13. > :21:23.try the window method first so here goes. The electrics field virtually

:21:24. > :21:31.straightaway and I cannot open the window. With the pressure from the

:21:32. > :21:41.water outside, no matter how hard I try I cannot open the door. As the

:21:42. > :21:57.water rises I realise at this point I'm trapped. That was more unnerving

:21:58. > :22:03.than I expected and I'm very experienced. Slowly rise up the

:22:04. > :22:11.ankles, up to your chest. The window did not work. The electrics blew

:22:12. > :22:17.out. Now for the second option of submerging the car completely. It

:22:18. > :22:24.relies on nerves and steel. After the last bit of a disappearance I

:22:25. > :22:31.managed to get out. But I'm in a controlled situation. Apparently

:22:32. > :22:41.there is a simple way of getting out of the car. I've got a window

:22:42. > :22:44.hammer. There is a little punch and you press it in the corner of the

:22:45. > :22:50.window and it shattered the glass and enables you to exit through the

:22:51. > :22:59.window. In I go again. I'm armed with a hammer. I let the water come

:23:00. > :23:04.up and I give it a go. After a split second I can easily climb up through

:23:05. > :23:12.the window. That worked than absolute treat. Literally press it

:23:13. > :23:20.in the corner of the window and it disappears. I genuinely believe this

:23:21. > :23:28.will save your life in that situation. Now you know what to ask

:23:29. > :23:37.the kids for. Would you have gone for winding the window down? Who

:23:38. > :23:41.knows. I don't know less from right. I think I would have gone for

:23:42. > :23:47.winding the window down. But that doesn't work. It is just that awful

:23:48. > :23:54.moment. Miranda's latest film stars

:23:55. > :23:56.an endangered species not used to being on camera,

:23:57. > :23:58.but for her they gave And showed us something

:23:59. > :24:07.we've never seen before. This pine marten is pregnant and for

:24:08. > :24:13.the first time on television with exclusive access to the birth and

:24:14. > :24:16.early life of her kids. 100 years ago they were almost extinct in

:24:17. > :24:22.Britain and today they are barely seen. Despite breeding programmes it

:24:23. > :24:27.has been difficult to increase their numbers because they can be

:24:28. > :24:34.extremely aggressive. This is one of the few places to have successfully

:24:35. > :24:39.bred pine marten is in captivity but it has taken some real ingenuity to

:24:40. > :24:42.get things going. Staff have devised obligated enclosures that allow the

:24:43. > :24:48.animals to see and get familiar with each other but not touch until

:24:49. > :24:52.mating time. Pine marten is leather separate life. They are very

:24:53. > :24:58.solitary and when they come together they fight and that's why we've got

:24:59. > :25:03.all around us these panels of love. A real walkways of love. The

:25:04. > :25:07.actually go through this enclosure so they can learn to get along with

:25:08. > :25:10.each other, and that happens weeks before a meeting. During the meeting

:25:11. > :25:13.we've got chapter is everywhere so if they have a fight we've got

:25:14. > :25:20.keepers on hand with police and rope to a low then to escape. This means

:25:21. > :25:23.they can be separated from each other for their own safety. A fight

:25:24. > :25:34.could be fatal if there were no means of escape. Whisper and Yorkie

:25:35. > :25:39.are prized breeders and they have bred six children. There are more on

:25:40. > :25:42.the way. Peter and his team have built a pine marten friendly nest

:25:43. > :25:47.and have rigged that with cameras which can film in complete darkness.

:25:48. > :25:53.When they are feted in the enclosure it is essential to be quiet and

:25:54. > :25:56.careful. They are easily scared and a female has the ability to end

:25:57. > :26:01.their own pregnancy if something settles her. Whisper likes her new

:26:02. > :26:10.home and after two weeks she gives birth. Staff have been filming her

:26:11. > :26:16.24-7, from the moment of birth through the first few weeks. And

:26:17. > :26:25.then, something extraordinary. The first ever footage of a kit being

:26:26. > :26:36.born. There we see number two. So cute. 2016 is a record-breaking

:26:37. > :26:48.year, as four have been born. She's curled up like a ball around these

:26:49. > :26:55.little things. Within a week, the kits get more lively. That is the

:26:56. > :27:09.first time mum has left the nest. It is Whisper's first chance after

:27:10. > :27:16.leaving the nest. Look at the circling now. Just unbelievably

:27:17. > :27:22.cute. They are boisterous. A lot of play fighting going on. Not much

:27:23. > :27:37.room in there for her. The kits and her mother are slowly outgrowing the

:27:38. > :27:49.box. You can see she is very. It is so charming. After seven weeks, one

:27:50. > :27:55.of the kits pierced tentatively out of the world and then, with mum

:27:56. > :28:03.watching, it leaves the nest. The others soon followed. This insight

:28:04. > :28:09.could play a crucial part in ensuring the recovery of one of the

:28:10. > :28:20.toughest but cutest native mammals. And none have been born since so it

:28:21. > :28:26.was very special to see that. Then, we can see you playing Carrie Grant.

:28:27. > :28:31.You said it was difficult to nail down the voice. I'm not sure I did.

:28:32. > :28:37.He is between British and American. I did it pretty much by myself, I

:28:38. > :28:47.did not have much help. In the end it seemed to go back, there is a

:28:48. > :28:51.character in team America, it is not the most natural performance but

:28:52. > :28:59.that is where it seemed to go. You've got the look. Thanks, man.

:29:00. > :29:05.Thanks for your company. You are off to Prague to play Einstein's wife.

:29:06. > :29:11.We will see you tomorrow.