:00:17. > :00:19.Hello and welcome to the One Show with Matt Baker. And Alex Jones.
:00:19. > :00:26.Tonight's guest is an actor for whom the term "smouldering good
:00:26. > :00:36.looks" was invented. He found fame mastering the... Casualty smoulder.
:00:36. > :00:46.He then moved on to perfect the... He even conquered the hardest of
:00:46. > :00:49.
:00:49. > :00:59.all... The semi submerged swimmer Can you give us a One Show
:00:59. > :01:03.
:01:03. > :01:07.You want Blue Steel? Which camera? It's why we get the extra. You are
:01:07. > :01:11.not up only a professional a smouldering, you are filming the
:01:11. > :01:17.sixth a series of extreme vision. just got back from Iceland last
:01:17. > :01:22.night. It was extreme, minus 15. Trekking across glaciers on
:01:22. > :01:26.horseback. Headed into a force eight gale. It was very
:01:26. > :01:32.entertaining. Did you catch anything? I caught my biggest brown
:01:32. > :01:39.trout ever. I was brought up on brown trout fish. How big was it?
:01:39. > :01:45.About that. Hold your hands steady. What are you up to? We did have a
:01:45. > :01:55.word with the film crew out there. You've moved to! I've got jet-lag!
:01:55. > :01:57.
:01:57. > :02:04.They said it was 54 centimetres. What we did, we've got the trout.
:02:04. > :02:08.Not bad! He and are sold it. many fishermen does it take to
:02:08. > :02:12.change a lightbulb? One, but you should have seen the size of the
:02:12. > :02:17.light bulb! You can have that. Larry Lamb is also on the show
:02:17. > :02:20.tonight. We'll be hearing from the man who is helping to unearth the
:02:20. > :02:25.20 Spitfires buried deep underground. Cannot wait for that.
:02:25. > :02:28.First, should we be worried that the government plans to see who we
:02:28. > :02:36.are e-mailing and what we are looking at online? Simon Boazman
:02:36. > :02:39.has been to do some smoothing of his own. -- snooping. Two weeks ago,
:02:39. > :02:43.the government outlined a draft bill to go into the Queen's Speech,
:02:43. > :02:46.which would allow them to monitor how e-mails, internet use and phone
:02:46. > :02:51.calls. It says without it, terrorists and organised criminal
:02:51. > :02:54.gangs will increasingly be able to outsmart the law. Many of us are
:02:54. > :02:58.deeply uncomfortable at the thought of our private communications or
:02:58. > :03:03.actions being watched. But in reality, many of the things that we
:03:03. > :03:10.do every day are already being monitored by a multitude of
:03:10. > :03:14.different people. Train companies know our movements by smart card
:03:14. > :03:22.tickets. Our internet provider knows what we are browsing on the
:03:22. > :03:26.web. And our phone providers know who we are calling. With many
:03:26. > :03:31.aspects of our everyday lives are already being monitored, what about
:03:31. > :03:36.this proposal is actually knew? And why are some people very worried
:03:37. > :03:43.indeed? We are constantly being watched when we are out and about.
:03:43. > :03:46.There are now over 1.8 million CCTV cameras in the UK. According to Dr
:03:46. > :03:50.Richard Clayton, an expert in computer security from Cambridge
:03:50. > :03:54.University, Sue Nott surveillance could reach into our homes. So what
:03:55. > :03:59.is different in this proposal that is potentially going to be put
:03:59. > :04:02.forward? What is new is the idea they will have a record of which
:04:02. > :04:07.websites you visited and how long you spend on them and how much data
:04:07. > :04:11.you moved backwards and forwards from those sites. It allows them to
:04:11. > :04:15.see your thought-processes. Vacancy which websites to visit, in which
:04:15. > :04:19.order, from which they can piece together what you were doing that
:04:19. > :04:23.date. The discussion at the moment is not to do away with the process
:04:23. > :04:27.of acquiring a warrant to see what is being written and sent. That
:04:27. > :04:31.safeguard will remain. Indeed. The Home Secretary will have to sign
:04:32. > :04:37.off in the 2000 or 3000 cases a year when they actually want to see
:04:37. > :04:39.the words. At the moment, be the security services after ask
:04:39. > :04:43.internet providers about information for suspects, which may
:04:43. > :04:47.take hours or days to be released force under the proposals, they
:04:47. > :04:51.could monitor the suspects communications in real time and so
:04:51. > :04:57.possibly avoid an attack. A similar bill was proposed in 2009 in the
:04:57. > :05:00.aftermath of 7th July bombings in London. But Nick Pickles, from Big
:05:00. > :05:03.Brother watch, is sceptical as to whether any snooping Bill would
:05:03. > :05:08.make a difference. There are big questions to be asked about whether
:05:08. > :05:11.this would work. If you look at the 7/7 inquest, they talked their
:05:11. > :05:16.about how more surveillance powers wouldn't have helped the situation.
:05:16. > :05:19.If you listen to a lot of security experts, the biggest single problem
:05:19. > :05:23.now was unregistered mobile phones being used by people to avoid
:05:23. > :05:26.detection. If you are logging calls, which is what these proposals want,
:05:26. > :05:31.it doesn't matter because if you don't know who is talking to each
:05:31. > :05:35.other, the data is irrelevant. Surely this is just another case of
:05:35. > :05:38.civil liberties campaigners the scaremongering. If people are
:05:38. > :05:45.suspected of crimes, investigate them. But let's not investigate
:05:45. > :05:51.everybody to make sure they are not doing anything wrong. David Cameron
:05:51. > :05:54.has defended the bill, saying, when people see the detail they will
:05:54. > :06:00.understand this is a very sensible way of keeping up with technology
:06:00. > :06:04.and not a snooping charter. One man who agrees his ex Special Branch
:06:04. > :06:08.officer and lecturer in crime and security at John Moores University,
:06:08. > :06:11.Dr David Lowe. With counter- terrorism, I know from my own
:06:11. > :06:17.experience, the pressure is on to prevent it, and you can understand
:06:17. > :06:21.why. As well as London, the year before you had Madrid, 191 people
:06:21. > :06:26.died just going to work. Why would they want to monitor everybody
:06:26. > :06:29.Carte Blanche? If there is a way they could find out at that time
:06:29. > :06:34.who they are communicating with, they could be on the periphery of
:06:34. > :06:36.inquiry. That could raise that person's profile from being on the
:06:36. > :06:41.periphery right into the centre, and then you put more resources on
:06:41. > :06:46.to them to deal with them before they can move on quickly. That one
:06:46. > :06:49.water macro hours could save lives, and that's the important part.
:06:49. > :06:55.viewers sitting at home, innocent of any crime, have they got
:06:55. > :07:00.anything to worry about? It won't affect 59 million people. We're
:07:00. > :07:10.talking hundreds. Hundreds, maybe 1000 people, this is Hewitt would
:07:10. > :07:12.
:07:12. > :07:15.affect out of 60 million. They If this draft Bill does make it
:07:15. > :07:19.into the Queen's Speech next month, it is still not completely clear
:07:19. > :07:23.exactly what it is going to contain. But with so much personal
:07:23. > :07:26.information about us rattling around out there, how that
:07:26. > :07:32.information is stored and, more importantly, how it is used is
:07:32. > :07:38.going to be a hot debate for years to come. It is a hot debate. What
:07:38. > :07:43.are your thoughts, we may have to compromise our privacy a bit? Isn't
:07:43. > :07:46.so much of your life recorded electronically anyway, haven't
:07:46. > :07:50.there News of the World been doing it for years anyway? If it's going
:07:50. > :07:57.to put more people behind bars, I'm all for it. Robson's Extreme
:07:57. > :08:00.Fishing Challenge. Yes. It's the fifth series. We never thought we'd
:08:00. > :08:05.get past the first series but it's become so popular and entertaining.
:08:05. > :08:09.What you will see tonight at 9pm is a guy who has travelled the globe
:08:09. > :08:12.and caught more fish than most professional anglers and
:08:12. > :08:16.adventurous. I must have learnt something. So each week it is a
:08:16. > :08:19.different country but with the same challenge, to take on five of the
:08:19. > :08:28.best anglers that nation has to offer. Tonight, you are in the
:08:28. > :08:34.Great Lakes. Here you are with a character called Sturgeon Joe.
:08:34. > :08:42.got something. We are in! The waiting is over. It is a Sturgeon.
:08:42. > :08:50.He's not be but, more importantly, he is on my road! That is OK, we
:08:50. > :08:56.will share in the wealth. The lake Sturgeon. They drag those barbels
:08:56. > :09:02.over the ground and become across the bait. They then that suck it up
:09:03. > :09:06.- an extraordinary, complex, prehistoric fish. But you do put
:09:06. > :09:10.back whenever you catch? No, we don't impose my philosophy. My
:09:10. > :09:15.philosophy is you eat what you catch. I'm not a fan of killing the
:09:15. > :09:21.fish you are not going to eat. But what you didn't see Ahmad kip, the
:09:21. > :09:29.Sturgeon Joe was the most patient man you could come across. We sat
:09:29. > :09:33.there for 11 hours. It was awful! We obviously have to pass the time.
:09:33. > :09:38.I've seen a lot of episodes of you fishing, and you are not the most
:09:38. > :09:42.patient person. You get pretty worked up, don't you? Yes, we are
:09:42. > :09:47.under pressure. We have to produce a target. The target there was the
:09:47. > :09:51.Sturgeon. But if you do catch, and that 10 hours does disappear, then
:09:51. > :09:55.I'm kind of living the dream. I'm going to extraordinary places,
:09:55. > :10:00.doing something I love. My father always said, if you do something
:10:00. > :10:04.you love, you don't have to work again in your life. Who else do you
:10:04. > :10:09.meet who shares your passion? meet this wonderful couple, a
:10:09. > :10:16.father and son relationship. We go after this extraordinary apex
:10:16. > :10:21.predator. I think we've got this. We haven't even had time to set all
:10:21. > :10:29.the lines out and we've got a double header! Fantastic! Another
:10:29. > :10:36.one! Look at this! We have got three Trish on! This is a first. I
:10:36. > :10:41.don't know what to do. I don't either! Your enthusiasm is so
:10:41. > :10:46.contagious. Yeah, you know, it is something I love. So many times you
:10:46. > :10:50.hear stories about depleted stocks, raping and pillaging of oceans. The
:10:50. > :10:53.places we go to, not only do we celebrate the scenery but we
:10:53. > :10:57.celebrate the healthiness of the water, the species and the people.
:10:57. > :11:02.If you get good scenery with good contributors and great species, it
:11:02. > :11:07.is very entertaining. It is very captivating audiences worldwide. We
:11:07. > :11:12.know of a story in Tasmania. They were going mad for you. Yes, all
:11:12. > :11:17.these cameras turned up. Robson Green arrives in Tasmania. Meryl
:11:17. > :11:21.Streep wins an Oscar. It was wonderful. I am an incredibly lucky
:11:21. > :11:25.and privileged person. We never lose sight of that when we do the
:11:25. > :11:28.programme. It is an honour to be part of something like this.
:11:28. > :11:35.Robeson's extreme vision challenges on tonight at 9pm on Channel 5 will
:11:35. > :11:41.stop do you have recurring dreams? I do. What are they? Can we
:11:41. > :11:45.broadcast this? Begetting lines, as an actor. It's more of a nightmare.
:11:45. > :11:50.It came true when I played Jesus. During the Crucifixion I forgot my
:11:50. > :11:53.lines. Victor Lewis-Smith said, Robson Green plays Jesus. I don't
:11:53. > :11:58.know what he was playing at but it was hard to believe anyone would
:11:58. > :12:02.follow him across the stage, let alone Israel! Anita Rani went to
:12:02. > :12:12.Edinburgh to meet a professor of psychology who claims he can banish
:12:12. > :12:19.Going to sleep is like entering an unknown realm. Who knows what
:12:19. > :12:22.dreams May come! X we might just as easily find ourselves exploring an
:12:22. > :12:28.enchanted forest as becoming trapped in a dark and dangerous
:12:28. > :12:30.nightmare. I don't always remember my dreams, which is probably for
:12:30. > :12:34.the best, but apparently they can really affect your mood throughout
:12:34. > :12:44.the day. So imagine having the ability to control your dreams.
:12:44. > :12:47.That would be worth having. Psychologist turned Dream Catcher
:12:47. > :12:50.Professor Richard Wiseman has developed an experiment using
:12:50. > :12:55.mobile phone technology, which he believes can influence our dreams.
:12:55. > :12:58.Astonishingly, he has collected more than 100,000 dreams in less
:12:58. > :13:03.than three days. It is all about trying to give you a more pleasant
:13:03. > :13:07.dream. It monitors you during the night. You place the app on your
:13:07. > :13:11.bed and during the night when you move around the app can detect that
:13:11. > :13:14.motion. When you dream you are paralysed. It knows that and it
:13:14. > :13:17.gently plays in that soundscapes. It's an attempt to try and
:13:17. > :13:21.influence how you feel and what you were dreaming about. Then when you
:13:21. > :13:24.wake up, it prompts you to send us a report and we can look at that
:13:24. > :13:30.data and see whether there is something going on. I'm about to
:13:30. > :13:33.have electrodes stuck to my head. What is going on? We are at the
:13:33. > :13:38.Sleep Centre. We are testing the science behind the app. We have a
:13:38. > :13:41.couple of hours at the Sleep Centre. We are going to be monitoring your
:13:41. > :13:45.brain waves by the electrodes on your head. Then we are going to
:13:45. > :13:50.play in a sound scape. Then we will wait to up and see whether that has
:13:50. > :13:54.influenced your dreams. Hopefully I will get to sleep. Well, it is
:13:54. > :13:59.quite a tall order. The only have a couple of hours. You will almost
:13:59. > :14:03.certainly get to sleep but the question is, we you dream? I now
:14:03. > :14:10.have only 90 minutes to get into the correct dream at stake for the
:14:10. > :14:14.app to work. Surprisingly, I'm out like a light. She's definitely
:14:14. > :14:19.woken up now. You can see by the activity in her brain. There is no
:14:19. > :14:22.point in playing in the tone. In which case, I will go and say hello.
:14:22. > :14:26.You didn't quite manage to get me but you have caught quite a lot of
:14:26. > :14:30.dreams is a bit. A lot of people have been sending in their reports.
:14:30. > :14:38.We've had about 130,000 already. We've been forming these would
:14:38. > :14:44.clouds. The word on the diagram, if its larger, the more frequent it is
:14:44. > :14:47.used. It is looking interesting. These words are all from the city
:14:47. > :14:51.soundscapes. We can compare that berry directly with the words that
:14:51. > :14:56.are coming up when there is the sound of the garden being played.
:14:56. > :14:59.Initial indications are maybe there is something going on, that
:14:59. > :15:02.soundscapes are influencing people's dreams. If you find that
:15:02. > :15:07.this does work, and listening to lovely sounds does help you think
:15:07. > :15:10.of lovely things in your dreams, what then? We know that the mood
:15:10. > :15:13.that people are in is affected very directed by the last dream they
:15:13. > :15:17.have had, so we put people in a better mood for the day. But they
:15:17. > :15:20.could be some real implications for psychological well-being. It's a
:15:20. > :15:24.very ambitious project. We don't know if it's going to work or not,
:15:24. > :15:27.that's why it's a genuine experiment. It is possible that
:15:28. > :15:31.this technology could eliminate our nightmares. Or it might just be a
:15:31. > :15:41.bit of fun. Either way, I quite like the idea of controlling our
:15:41. > :15:46.
:15:46. > :15:51.I would like to try it! I would find it scary. I always turn my
:15:51. > :15:57.phone off at night. What if you are having a good dream? I don't like
:15:57. > :16:06.If you want to bring on a good dream, a bit of cheddar before bed.
:16:06. > :16:12.That is the way forward! OK! told! Now, by 1941, Adolf Hitler's
:16:12. > :16:17.troops were not just winning on the battlefields, but on the airways
:16:17. > :16:22.too. Larry Lamb has been finding out more about Nazi propaganda.
:16:22. > :16:28.Away from the front line of battle during the Second World War, an all
:16:28. > :16:34.together different campaign was being fought. From the heart of the
:16:34. > :16:39.English cid, the Ashdown Forest in Sussex was the location of one of
:16:39. > :16:41.Britain's most important secret weapons, it was called, Aspidistra.
:16:41. > :16:47.Aspidistra was a powerful transmitter.
:16:47. > :16:53.The plan was to use it to broadcast fake German programmes to the
:16:53. > :17:00.Germans, spreading misinformation and propaganda.
:17:00. > :17:04.So, why did we need Aspidistra? Well, by 1941, Britain was losing
:17:04. > :17:12.the propaganda war with Nazi Germany, they had more transmitters
:17:12. > :17:16.and greater firepower. Winston Churchill understood the importance
:17:17. > :17:24.of the radio broadcast to not just compete with the Germans but to
:17:24. > :17:31.overwhelm them. The transmitter was installed in a under ground bunker.
:17:31. > :17:37.Here in the middle of nowhere, how did they do it? How did they build
:17:37. > :17:47.it? There was a group of Canadian army engineers, they helped to
:17:47. > :17:52.
:17:52. > :17:59.build it. There was a four foot building which was two feet thick.
:17:59. > :18:06.It began transmiting on November 8th, in 1942 from deep under the
:18:06. > :18:11.ground. Less Raulings, worked on the France
:18:11. > :18:15.mitter after the war and has archives of the transmissions.
:18:15. > :18:25.So, Less, these are some of the original recordings that were
:18:25. > :18:28.
:18:28. > :18:32.broadcast from here? Yes. Would you like a little listen? Yes.
:18:32. > :18:42.So, how convincing would a programme like that have been?
:18:42. > :18:43.
:18:43. > :18:47.all the music programmes for the Germans were from the Reich. Then
:18:47. > :18:52.the programmes were faded in so that the Germans were convinced it
:18:52. > :18:56.was their own station. Aspidistra was used to jam the
:18:56. > :19:01.commands given to fighter pilots, leaving our aircraft at less risk
:19:01. > :19:07.of attack during bombing raids. Of course, this saved our aircraft
:19:07. > :19:12.from being shot down. Did is save a lot of aircraft?
:19:12. > :19:17.did think we were saving up to 35air craft a night.
:19:17. > :19:21.? -- 35 aircraft a night. But the effects of the transmitter
:19:21. > :19:28.was so powerful that the locals said they could hear German voices
:19:28. > :19:32.coming out of the wire around the site.
:19:32. > :19:36.Around the village, of course, things affect Paula Radcliffe the
:19:36. > :19:41.telephones, people would pick up a telephone and there was the news in
:19:41. > :19:45.German. Hearing aids in those days, of course, were simple devices, the
:19:45. > :19:50.poor people could not hear what was going nonthe room, but they could
:19:50. > :19:53.hear what was going out to Germany. But the campaign was not without
:19:54. > :20:00.controversy. There was a message falsely claiming that the home town
:20:00. > :20:05.of a commander was bombed, and some felt that the tactics went too far.
:20:05. > :20:09.It was argued that we should be broadcasting messages of hope and
:20:09. > :20:13.sympathy to Europe, not black propaganda, but the broadcasts
:20:13. > :20:17.continued until the end of the war. The sheer scale of Aspidistra made
:20:17. > :20:23.it a very important weapon of war. Just a Winston Churchill intended.
:20:23. > :20:25.It was a big help in defeating the Nazi propaganda machine, turning
:20:25. > :20:29.the war of words into Britain's favour.
:20:29. > :20:34.The Second World War was fought on all fronts, the air, the land and
:20:34. > :20:38.the sea, but it is clear that the secret work of the people here in
:20:38. > :20:45.this remote corner of Sussex also played a crucial role in the Allied
:20:45. > :20:51.victory. And Larry joins us now in the
:20:51. > :20:56.studio. A remarkable story? Yes, the Germans were way ahead of us
:20:57. > :21:00.with the propaganda. They were doing it from 1932 with Joseph
:21:00. > :21:05.Goebbels through to 1939. So Winston Churchill decided to steal
:21:05. > :21:09.the march on them. They got this guy, a refugee in England, a
:21:10. > :21:17.Berliner who, was able to convince the audiences that the Aspidistra
:21:17. > :21:21.was beaming into Germany, that he was a disaffected ex-Prussian
:21:21. > :21:26.officer. This was derder. He was telling people that the Nazis were
:21:26. > :21:30.a bunch of gangsters, that Adolf Hitler was a loser. Feeding them
:21:30. > :21:36.everything that they did not want to hear. So the system of beaming
:21:37. > :21:40.propaganda to the enemy was carried on through to the Korean conflict
:21:40. > :21:46.and through to the Falklands War. The Ministry of Defence took over
:21:46. > :21:55.the BBC World transmission services, and basically what they did was
:21:55. > :21:59.invented a radio station Radio South Atlantic, which in theory was
:21:59. > :22:04.supposed to be broadcast in nice South American music, and giving
:22:04. > :22:08.interesting information about what was going on about the poor old
:22:08. > :22:15.Argentinian troops stationed on the Falklands, but the problem was that
:22:15. > :22:19.they got the music wrong, so they were transferring Mexican music.
:22:19. > :22:24.They got three specialists from the MoD, they all spoke Spanish, but
:22:24. > :22:30.they did not speak Spanish with the right accent so the men were
:22:30. > :22:36.listening to propaganda that was very definitely not quite the thing.
:22:36. > :22:43.You had good pronouncation there, though! I was one of them! They
:22:43. > :22:49.reckon that the Argentinians that I worked with speak Argentinian like
:22:49. > :22:52.a Mexican bandit! Well, the big news is that there are 20 Spitfires
:22:52. > :22:57.buried in Birmingham. How they got there and why is a question for
:22:57. > :23:01.Steve. Welcome, stee, nice to see you. How
:23:01. > :23:07.did you find out about the Spitfires were buried in
:23:07. > :23:10.Birmingham? How did it come about? I run a Spitfire Academy. We train
:23:10. > :23:16.people to fly Spitfires, we were approached by some people recently
:23:16. > :23:19.who had been working on the project for many years. So we are now
:23:19. > :23:24.working tote. Are you sure it is them? If it is,
:23:24. > :23:29.what are you going to do with them? We don't know yet. We have not seen
:23:29. > :23:35.them. They are under the ground. Six metres down. So very deep. We
:23:35. > :23:39.have sure that they are there. We have eyewitness reports. We have
:23:39. > :23:44.collaborated with people to find them on ground radar, but it is
:23:44. > :23:49.going to be a big job. We want to keep our viewers
:23:49. > :23:52.informed with this one. Now, here on The One Show we have heard
:23:52. > :23:58.amazing stories have people forced to make big decisions from the man
:23:58. > :24:03.who had the first sex change to a medic who fled the front line in
:24:03. > :24:07.Afghanistan, but here is a woman who was faced with a heartbreaking
:24:07. > :24:11.choice. I am Melanie Jaggard. Five years
:24:11. > :24:18.ago I was diagnosed with an incurable form of cancer. My big
:24:18. > :24:24.decision was to start a family, not knowing what the future would hold.
:24:24. > :24:28.Me lerbgs is besoted with her baby, or this in case babies, but her
:24:28. > :24:34.joys mingled with the worry of how long she will have with them. Mel
:24:34. > :24:38.is one of the few women in the world to get pregnant while
:24:38. > :24:45.suffering an extremely rare form of cancer.
:24:45. > :24:50.Take me back to what was happening in your life in May, 2007? I was in
:24:50. > :24:58.my midto late 20s, with lots of friends in London. Socialising a
:24:58. > :25:01.bit. Having a great time doing it Mell's cancer was discovered after
:25:01. > :25:07.a routine scan after a ruptured eardrum.
:25:07. > :25:10.I was expecting to get a less than hideous diagnosis and actually got
:25:10. > :25:15.the worse one that I could have expected.
:25:16. > :25:21.She was diagnosed with ACC. There was a tumour below the base of her
:25:21. > :25:27.skull that needed immediate surgery. Any repercussions from the surgery?
:25:27. > :25:32.I lost the hearing in my right ear. I can't feel a part of my face.
:25:32. > :25:37.Like when you have been to the dentist and they numb the jaw.
:25:37. > :25:42.After the operation, she was told she would never be free of ACC, but
:25:42. > :25:47.a year later with repeated scans showing that there were no more
:25:47. > :25:52.tumours things were looking good. When Charlie came into her life, it
:25:52. > :25:59.was even better it was love at first sight. He proposed in Paris.
:25:59. > :26:03.It seemed perfect. Before you got married you had another scan?
:26:03. > :26:09.I was having them every six months at that point. The scanner, luckily,
:26:09. > :26:14.as it turns out, managed to get the top two centimetres of my lungs in
:26:14. > :26:20.his scan. There were tumours, like the night
:26:20. > :26:25.sky on a clear night. Some of them tiny, some of them bigger, but
:26:25. > :26:30.everywhere. The reaction is selfish, after the initial shock, it is then
:26:30. > :26:34.a feeling of right, what are we going to do about this.
:26:34. > :26:40.They went ahead with the wedding, then came the most difficult
:26:40. > :26:44.dilemma, should they risk having children? The problem was that no-
:26:44. > :26:49.one knew if pregnancy would make the cancer worse or pose a risk to
:26:49. > :26:53.the unborn child. After research and with the support of their
:26:53. > :26:58.medical team, Mell got pregnant. It is all about the flight path of
:26:58. > :27:04.the development of the tumour. So as long as they are growing slowly,
:27:04. > :27:08.indoe lently, then the potential life-span can be 10, 1520 plus
:27:08. > :27:13.years. Someone may say it is a selfish
:27:13. > :27:17.decision, me wanting a family, but not being here to raise them it was
:27:17. > :27:21.not a decision that we took lightly at all.
:27:21. > :27:26.What was the pregnancy like? Any problems? Everything was fine,
:27:26. > :27:32.until the last six weeks, then the sheer size of everything pushing up
:27:32. > :27:37.meant that I was coughing a bit. Describe the moment when the twins
:27:37. > :27:42.were born? I was gobsmacked. I could not believe that I had made
:27:42. > :27:47.two of them. I still look at them now and I can't believe it
:27:47. > :27:52.Mel decided not to have the regular scans during the pregnancy because
:27:52. > :27:57.of the radiation risk to the twins. So she had no why that the cancer
:27:57. > :28:01.may have grown. Once they were a few days old, she had her first
:28:01. > :28:05.scan in a year. What did it show? It showed that
:28:05. > :28:12.the tumour has grown. It must have been a difficult
:28:12. > :28:17.moment, given you had new-born twins? Yes. We took from that the
:28:17. > :28:20.hormone imbalance caused the growth or it could be that the tumours
:28:20. > :28:26.decided to grow any way, whether I was pregnant or not.
:28:26. > :28:30.The most recent scan shows that the tumours have not grown larger. The
:28:30. > :28:34.family are hopeful, despite the uncertain future.
:28:34. > :28:40.It no is not hard to stay positive about what we are dealing with.
:28:40. > :28:44.believe we have time on our side and that in that period of time a
:28:44. > :28:49.way to deal with the cancer, either a cure or a way of managing it will
:28:49. > :28:53.be found. Well, we have spoken to Mel today.
:28:53. > :29:00.She told us that life is magic. That the twins, six months and a
:29:00. > :29:03.week old are keeping them on their toes, giving them more reason to
:29:03. > :29:09.remain 100%. For more information about ACC go to the website. It is
:29:09. > :29:13.all there for you. Robson if you could choose anywhere
:29:13. > :29:23.in Britain to go fishing, where would you go and what would you
:29:23. > :29:25.
:29:25. > :29:29.catch? It is in the north-east of England, on the River Culci tt, and