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:00:16. > :00:17.Hello and welcome to the One Show with Alex Jones...

:00:18. > :00:22.Hopefully it's been a happy A-Level results day for you at home,

:00:23. > :00:25.but if not don't worry, our guest tonight is living

:00:26. > :00:29.proof there are many routes to success in life.

:00:30. > :00:32.He left school at 15 to become an apprentice welder,

:00:33. > :00:36.and by 60 he was one of the most beloved TV judges

:00:37. > :00:41.in both the UK and America, with not a blowtorch in sight.

:00:42. > :00:44.Now at 73 he's about to become a gameshow host -

:00:45. > :00:46.so who knows what job he'll be doing at 100?

:00:47. > :01:05.Welcome! It's great to be here. Greg Stewart have you here. Looking

:01:06. > :01:11.lovely in the pink jacket. I know, I thought, Matt's is always... I

:01:12. > :01:18.thought, should I wear a tie? I thought, he rarely does. You are

:01:19. > :01:20.very much on trend. All across the UK, lots of people have been opening

:01:21. > :01:27.up their results today. Congratulations to my nephew, by the

:01:28. > :01:32.way. What were you like as a dad when your son, James, opened his

:01:33. > :01:37.results? A-levels were before your time? They were. Just as well,

:01:38. > :01:43.really. I did the 11 plus and failed miserably. With your son, they never

:01:44. > :01:48.listen to their dads. I never listened to mine. It's not until you

:01:49. > :01:53.are older that you realise how intelligent your dad is. You know,

:01:54. > :02:00.when you are a teenager, you think, silly old... Person! So, James?

:02:01. > :02:07.Actually, he went into musical theatre. It wasn't all that

:02:08. > :02:12.academic. It was more about dancing, singing and so on. He didn't

:02:13. > :02:20.actually... I can't remember, to be honest. He was more creative? The

:02:21. > :02:24.other thing, to all those that have passed their A-levels, well done and

:02:25. > :02:28.congratulations. But, at the end of the day, it is only a piece of

:02:29. > :02:34.paper. I think it is how you live your life, how you come out, how you

:02:35. > :02:42.are, people skills. That's important. Look at you. Going like

:02:43. > :02:56.the clappers. You've got a new game show. Rhyming Partners? Partners In

:02:57. > :03:04.Rhyme? Nearly right! You've brought some examples? So that would be...

:03:05. > :03:11.Champagne train? Train Champagne? Champagne on a train, that would do

:03:12. > :03:19.it. We are not overly... You know? We are warmed up. That is... Regal

:03:20. > :03:34.eagle? Witch on the pitch? I am showing you

:03:35. > :03:40.the level, it is not University challenge. Wonderful fun. I had such

:03:41. > :03:45.a laugh doing it. The contestants were great. The celebrities really

:03:46. > :03:53.got into it. Tonight, we are going to theme our show around this. We

:03:54. > :03:57.thought it would be nice to give the opportunity to play the game, to the

:03:58. > :03:58.viewers. It will be quite random. Especially if you join in halfway

:03:59. > :04:02.through. Hidden around the studio

:04:03. > :04:04.tonight are five rhymes - keep your eyes peeled,

:04:05. > :04:06.they could appear at any It's The One Show

:04:07. > :04:11.sofas wearing loafers! The first to tell us they've spotted

:04:12. > :04:16.each one will get a ten from Len Now we're about to reveal a deal

:04:17. > :04:36.you won't think is for real - Imagine you had bought a ticket for

:04:37. > :04:38.?2 and you won this. It's a six bedroom manor house.

:04:39. > :04:40.Well that's what happened to a woman from Warrington on Tuesday.

:04:41. > :04:49.And Lucy Siegle is the one who made the call.

:04:50. > :05:06.For sale, a man in Lancaster. -- monor. It has six bedrooms, two

:05:07. > :05:12.bathrooms... Oh, yes, and its very own ballroom. The kitchen. Stunning.

:05:13. > :05:19.The current owners have been trying to sell this house for five years.

:05:20. > :05:24.They got into some financial difficulties. I tried to renegotiate

:05:25. > :05:28.my mortgage. It got declined and the mortgage went up. I told my wife and

:05:29. > :05:34.she said, let's just hand the keys back to the bank. I said, let me try

:05:35. > :05:40.one more thing. To avoid repossession, Dunstan came up with

:05:41. > :05:45.an idea, a competition to win their home. Although the house has been

:05:46. > :05:52.valued by estate agents at just under ?800,000, the new owners will

:05:53. > :06:00.acquire it for as little as ?2. That is the price of a ticket in the

:06:01. > :06:04.prize draw. So, what do you win? You get the house, the white goods. On

:06:05. > :06:14.top of that, the winner will have, for 12 months, the title of Lord or

:06:15. > :06:20.Lady of the manor. I have ordered them cuts, saying Lord or Lady!

:06:21. > :06:24.Dunstan set up the competition initially without telling his wife,

:06:25. > :06:28.Natasha. How much of a surprise was that when your husband told you your

:06:29. > :06:32.home was going to be given away as a prize? Shock, anger. I thought he

:06:33. > :06:47.was crazy when he came to me and said. At what point did you become

:06:48. > :06:51.convinced? I think today! Only now!? Dunstan has sold 500,000 tickets,

:06:52. > :06:57.raising an impressive ?1 million. In just a few hours, he will announce

:06:58. > :07:02.who the lucky winner is. This couple are hoping to be them.

:07:03. > :07:10.Welcome to the manor. Can you imagine yourself living here? I

:07:11. > :07:17.would love to live here. As a child, you imagine being a big house, a

:07:18. > :07:23.Princess! Initial impressions are that it will take a lot of heating.

:07:24. > :07:29.Would your furniture fit in here? Yes, in that corner! So, in

:07:30. > :07:35.slow-moving markets, could property competitions like this one represent

:07:36. > :07:40.the future of house sales? Well, before you get any ideas, there are

:07:41. > :07:44.strict rules to keep a draw like this aboveboard. Previous house

:07:45. > :07:49.raffles have fallen foul of the law. Cliff Young is from the Gambling

:07:50. > :07:53.Commission. If anybody is thinking of offering their house as a prize

:07:54. > :07:59.in a competition, first they need to make sure that the scheme they are

:08:00. > :08:02.running is not, in fact, a lottery. Lotteries are a form of gambling.

:08:03. > :08:06.They are subject to specific rules and regulations about how they can

:08:07. > :08:13.operate, and who can run them. So, to make sure the draw is not classed

:08:14. > :08:19.as a lottery, entrants had to answer a question and Dunstan also offered

:08:20. > :08:23.a free entry option by post. After six months and 500,000 ticket sales,

:08:24. > :08:28.it is finally time for Dunstan to find out who the new owner of the

:08:29. > :08:33.manor is. In front of his family, and members of the press, Dunstan

:08:34. > :08:38.has invited an independent solicitor to use a random number generator to

:08:39. > :08:49.select the winner. Let's do it. We have a number. 499,101. Now we just

:08:50. > :08:52.need to break the news to the lucky ticket holder. I'm about to give

:08:53. > :08:57.someone a call that will change their life. Hello, I am going to

:08:58. > :09:01.hand you over to a gentleman called Dunstan, who has some news for you.

:09:02. > :09:08.I believe you have just won powerhouse. Route no way?

:09:09. > :09:12.-- I think you have just won powerhouse. Are you going to change

:09:13. > :09:28.your bank card to Lady Melling? Louise gets the keys to the manor,

:09:29. > :09:32.and Dunstan receives the money he wanted for the property, with room

:09:33. > :09:36.to cover costs and make a sizeable charity donation. So, it is a

:09:37. > :09:42.closing chapter for Dunstan and his family. But today marks the

:09:43. > :09:53.beginning of a new rain for the soon-to-be lady of Melling. When did

:09:54. > :09:59.I get the keys? When are they moving in? Congratulations! It is so

:10:00. > :10:03.exciting, the whole thing. Marie is very excited. I talked to her

:10:04. > :10:09.yesterday evening and this evening. I will leave her alone now. Are you

:10:10. > :10:15.going to make friends? I would like to be invited for tea. There is a

:10:16. > :10:18.due process, and it could take a couple of days. It could take

:10:19. > :10:23.longer, depending on how fast people move. But Dunstan has to prove that

:10:24. > :10:27.the draw was aboveboard and fitted with all the protocols. And then the

:10:28. > :10:30.money, the funds are held by an online payment company. They will

:10:31. > :10:35.release them when they have got the evidence that they need. Then the

:10:36. > :10:39.solicitor says off the mortgage. The moving in date is then set. There is

:10:40. > :10:45.a little that process that needs to be gone through. I spoke to Marie,

:10:46. > :10:48.it is just taking it in, really. She said they just want to spend a

:10:49. > :10:51.little bit of time in the house, with the house, and see what it

:10:52. > :10:59.feels like before they make any plans. But she is so thrilled. We

:11:00. > :11:06.heard of the title, is there a husband? Yes, Gary, her partner. He

:11:07. > :11:14.wasn't sure if he was going to be Lord of Melling, he thought it just

:11:15. > :11:19.applied to Marie. But I can exclusively tell Gary that you are

:11:20. > :11:24.Lord of Melling as well. The titles were bequeathed to a charity. They

:11:25. > :11:28.found out about this, they teamed up with Dunstan and they will get some

:11:29. > :11:35.of the funds as well, which is great for them. So, Marie and Gary are

:11:36. > :11:40.Lord and Lady of Melling. She thinks of it as being a gift and she wants

:11:41. > :11:45.the whole family to share in it. She says mum and dad do the cleaning in

:11:46. > :11:49.her house, because she works long hours. They will really struggle to

:11:50. > :11:58.clean it. I thought you are going to say that they already had servants!

:11:59. > :12:01.Here aunt and uncle are thrilled, because they are ballroom fanatics

:12:02. > :12:13.and there is a ballroom there. I think we should go for tea. We will

:12:14. > :12:17.all go! I will do the garden. Marie, put the kettle on! All the best,

:12:18. > :12:22.send an e-mail and let us know what it is like. Is there a statue in the

:12:23. > :12:23.garden? Not yet, it is a very big garden, though.

:12:24. > :12:25.In your eyes what is the purpose of a public statue?

:12:26. > :12:28.Is it simply to honour the person on the plinth?

:12:29. > :12:31.Or are they works of art - there to remind us of our history,

:12:32. > :12:35.It's a question that caused violent clashes in the States last weekend.

:12:36. > :12:37.But, with our own share of controversial monuments

:12:38. > :12:40.this side of the pond, what do people here think?

:12:41. > :12:47.Kevin has been to get some cast iron opinions.

:12:48. > :12:57.In Bristol, tensions have raged over statues, like this one of Edward

:12:58. > :13:07.Colston, a philanthropist who funded homes and schools for the poor. But

:13:08. > :13:12.he was also an bear instrumental slave transporter. Do statues like

:13:13. > :13:16.this have a place in cities? We are at a place in history where colonial

:13:17. > :13:20.celebrities need to be exposed for the people they were, and the deeds

:13:21. > :13:27.they committed. For too long, we have been spoon-fed history that is

:13:28. > :13:31.not accurate. Should controversial statues be totally removed, or

:13:32. > :13:36.altered? I would always advocate that statues should be kept in

:13:37. > :13:40.museums. I think it is important to keep them as reference points, but

:13:41. > :13:46.it is not about celebrating them. They do not represent the values

:13:47. > :13:54.that we hold in society today. History is something that should be

:13:55. > :14:00.around, not a matter of emotion. Although I feel very strongly, for

:14:01. > :14:03.instance, with the people pulling down Confederate statues in the

:14:04. > :14:08.States, I understand where they are coming from, but I don't think it is

:14:09. > :14:12.the answer. Is any statue with fighting for? It is a product of its

:14:13. > :14:16.time, that historical person is a product of the time. In the case of

:14:17. > :14:22.Edward Colston, I don't believe that you can judge somebody from the 17th

:14:23. > :14:27.century by the ethics of the 21st century.

:14:28. > :14:35.But from Oliver Cromwell to Cecil Rhodes, statues across the UK

:14:36. > :14:39.provoke debate. You think they should be removed totally? No, I

:14:40. > :14:44.don't think they should, actually, I think they represent a part of our

:14:45. > :14:52.history, and we should just try and learn from it. May be the way things

:14:53. > :14:56.are, we are not the way that we used to be. If you are going to start

:14:57. > :15:02.with that, are we going to remove the names from schools and

:15:03. > :15:08.everything else? Get rid, I say. And put what in its place? May be

:15:09. > :15:14.something positive. Statues worth fighting over? Not at all. We want

:15:15. > :15:17.to move forward as a society, and it needs to be a conversation about

:15:18. > :15:19.things that have happened in the past. Once they are removed, nobody

:15:20. > :15:26.is going to learn about anything. This is something that has got a lot

:15:27. > :15:31.of people talking, where do you sit with all of this? Do you know, just

:15:32. > :15:38.as well I didn't get any A-levels, because I have got a very low memory

:15:39. > :15:43.about things! I like to look at statues, I haven't got a clue,

:15:44. > :15:49.basically, who they are, but that is what I like. I look at a blue

:15:50. > :15:54.plaque, it says so architect, I wonder who it is. It intrigues you

:15:55. > :16:01.to find out more. And you have thought about where you would like

:16:02. > :16:08.your own statue. Dartford, I would like to be Lord Len of Dartford, a

:16:09. > :16:16.beautiful statue outside my dance scroll, a sort of John Travolta

:16:17. > :16:21.bows. Like that! There is already a statue of Len, but it is a bit on

:16:22. > :16:25.the small size. I am sure you know what we are talking about! If you

:16:26. > :16:31.want one of these, you will have to take part in Len's new game show,

:16:32. > :16:42.like this. This is all about celebrities doing something that

:16:43. > :16:49.rhymes with their name. Let's play mind the rhyme! Short, he can do

:16:50. > :17:04.kung fu and act. Jackie Chan doing the cancan! Why don't we all have a

:17:05. > :17:09.go while we are here?! Here we go! So there you have it, look out for

:17:10. > :17:19.the rhymes hidden into night's show, they could appear at any time. So,

:17:20. > :17:23.Len, why a game show? Listen, the things about getting older, you

:17:24. > :17:29.mustn't give up on challenges, you know, it would be so easy, OK, I

:17:30. > :17:35.have packed up Strictly, I will sit at home, play a bit of golf, get on

:17:36. > :17:40.my wife's nerves. But no, they said, would I fancy doing it, and I was

:17:41. > :17:45.nervous, because you are nervous about doing anything new. You seem

:17:46. > :17:51.to have picked up some tips from Brucie. There is a bit of Brucie

:17:52. > :17:56.going on, which is no bad thing! What did you learn from watching

:17:57. > :18:00.him? What was wonderful about Brucie was his professionalism, he was

:18:01. > :18:05.always there early, he was always ready to get out there, a true

:18:06. > :18:10.professional, and he always did everything with enthusiasm, you

:18:11. > :18:14.know? And he went out and really gave it a go, and that is what I

:18:15. > :18:20.have tried to do on Partners In Rhyme, just get out, have fun, and

:18:21. > :18:25.listen, it is the same on Strictly - all you can do is your best, that is

:18:26. > :18:30.all you can do with everything. There are six episodes, Saturday

:18:31. > :18:34.night, and as you are saying, there are celebrities involved, and people

:18:35. > :18:42.can come on and win a holiday. Two celebrities get partnered up, four

:18:43. > :18:46.celebrities, two contestants, and two celebrities join a contestant,

:18:47. > :18:58.so there are three of them, it is three against the three, and there

:18:59. > :19:03.are all different elements, News at Len, mime the rhyme, all these

:19:04. > :19:09.different elements going on, Rhymewatch. The runner-up gets a pen

:19:10. > :19:16.from Len, and eventual winner, if they win, gets a holiday. You must

:19:17. > :19:20.be rhyming in your sleep! You mentioned Strictly, lots of people

:19:21. > :19:25.are excited about it coming back, will you be watching it? I will

:19:26. > :19:30.watch it, and if I can't watch for a different reason, I will definitely

:19:31. > :19:34.recorded, because it is a wonderful show! You know, what is not to like

:19:35. > :19:38.about it? It is lovely to see celebrities, like your good selves,

:19:39. > :19:44.going on, struggling, overcoming things, you know? Challenges, and

:19:45. > :19:49.what is great with Strictly, I think, if you get a celebrity that

:19:50. > :19:54.is on Holby city, you know them as that character, but you start to

:19:55. > :20:00.learn about them as a real person. And we will be learning all about

:20:01. > :20:08.Shirley. I have known her all my life, well, all her life! She is a

:20:09. > :20:11.fantastic dancer, let's said at first of all. What she doesn't know

:20:12. > :20:18.about ballroom and Latin, you wouldn't want to know. So she does

:20:19. > :20:22.both. She was mainly a Latin dancer, she won the British championship,

:20:23. > :20:26.the only girl to win it twice with two different partners. She is a

:20:27. > :20:35.terrific dancer, so she will know her onions. Are you going to be able

:20:36. > :20:40.to stay away, Len? Or will you be sneaking into I will not be going

:20:41. > :20:49.early doors, but you have got to them get on with it. In for the

:20:50. > :20:53.final? In near the end! Partners In Rhyme begins on Saturday evening,

:20:54. > :21:00.6:45 on BBC One. Yesterday, the Royal

:21:01. > :21:04.Navy's latest flagship, in its new home of Portsmouth

:21:05. > :21:08.for the first time. It's supposed to take pride of place

:21:09. > :21:11.alongside its famous predecessor, HMS Victory, but there's

:21:12. > :21:13.a big problem. Angellica went to meet

:21:14. > :21:31.the team trying to save her. She led to leave Sydney American War

:21:32. > :21:35.of Independence. She fought in the Napoleonic wars. -- she led the

:21:36. > :21:42.leads in the American War of Independence. And she was Lord

:21:43. > :21:46.Nelson's flagship at Trafalgar. HMS Victory has been resting here at

:21:47. > :21:50.Portsmouth historic dockyard. During her time in the dry dock, she has

:21:51. > :21:57.been restored to much of her former glory, but now she is facing a new

:21:58. > :22:04.battle. The project director for HMS Victory joined me on the gun deck.

:22:05. > :22:07.For the past 40 years, we have been monitoring the ship, and we have

:22:08. > :22:12.seen that she has been slowly effectively collapsing in on herself

:22:13. > :22:15.at the rate of about 0.5 centimetres per year, and as she has fallen

:22:16. > :22:23.down, she has bulged at the sides. To understand why Victory is

:22:24. > :22:27.collapsing, Andrew's team created a 3D model of the ship using laser

:22:28. > :22:36.scanning technology. Every pixel on screen is a measurement, 18 billion

:22:37. > :22:40.measurements in this model. Have you pinpointed the problem? Since 1925,

:22:41. > :22:44.she has been sat on 22 cradles, and it turns out that the cradles are

:22:45. > :22:50.creating pressure points. It is a bit like walking along the beach,

:22:51. > :22:54.with your bare feet, you don't feel any pressure, but on a gravel beach,

:22:55. > :23:00.you get those pressure points building up, and it is painful. Same

:23:01. > :23:05.for Victory. The team have developed a new innovative support system, the

:23:06. > :23:09.first of its kind in the world. Nobody anywhere else has done

:23:10. > :23:15.anything like this, so it is a real challenge to design it, build it,

:23:16. > :23:20.and then install it. 134 props will replace P22 steel cradles under

:23:21. > :23:27.Victory. It means her weight will be more evenly distributed. How long

:23:28. > :23:31.will it take? That is the magic question, we think it should take

:23:32. > :23:38.about 18 months, but Victory is a grand old lady, and we have to give

:23:39. > :23:42.her time to adjust. Victory weighs around 2200 tonnes. Once

:23:43. > :23:46.installation is complete, the new adjustable system will support her

:23:47. > :23:49.better than if she was sitting in sea water. The day the team are

:23:50. > :23:53.going to see if the first of the new props will take the weight. With

:23:54. > :23:58.Victory being the oldest commissioned warship in the world,

:23:59. > :24:02.the stakes couldn't be higher. She is incredibly important for our

:24:03. > :24:06.history, and we have now the responsibility of making sure that

:24:07. > :24:12.she is around for the next 250 years. The new support system is

:24:13. > :24:15.already the beginning of a restoration project costing ?40

:24:16. > :24:21.million. Victory was built with the wood of 6000 trees. All the timber

:24:22. > :24:28.for future repairs is kept here at the national museum for the Royal

:24:29. > :24:32.Navy's timber store. We have teak, oak, mahogany, and we have now

:24:33. > :24:38.received this lovely piece of Elm. Elm is really important. The keel is

:24:39. > :24:44.made of Elm, but we found out that Dutch elm disease is a problem in

:24:45. > :24:49.northern Scotland. So you had to act quick. If we don't have as did now,

:24:50. > :24:54.we will not get it again. We may not need it for 200 years, but it will

:24:55. > :24:58.not be available in 200 years. Back at the dry dock, the team are ready

:24:59. > :25:03.to see if the new prop will take the weight of Victory. This is the first

:25:04. > :25:08.of the stainless steel props, so we're taking this pressure up to 8.2

:25:09. > :25:12.tonnes. It is the first time it has been done, so we take it very

:25:13. > :25:19.carefully we go. Ready for the pressure to go on? 1.8. Slowly and

:25:20. > :25:29.steadily, the weight of Victory is loaded onto her new support.

:25:30. > :25:33.Finally, success! One prop down, 133 to go, which means many more complex

:25:34. > :25:38.calculation is for Andrew's team over the next 18 months. This is

:25:39. > :25:42.only the beginning of the project for HMS Victory, but today is not

:25:43. > :25:46.just an important day for her - it is a huge breakthrough for other

:25:47. > :25:50.historic ships around the world too, who could be using a support system

:25:51. > :25:55.like Victory's some time in the near future.

:25:56. > :26:00.Well, we have got some news, because Angellica has been very busy, 27

:26:01. > :26:05.supports are now in place, and that means 107 to go, let's hope it is a

:26:06. > :26:13.complete success. As well as the work on Victory, and other national

:26:14. > :26:17.treasure in need of TLC is Big Ben. We are going to miss those chimes!

:26:18. > :26:22.Well, Matthew, it will be chiming for the last time at midday on

:26:23. > :26:30.Monday - for a while at least. So we are in the market for a replacement.

:26:31. > :26:33.This is brilliant! Is your name Ben? Are you big? You don't have to be

:26:34. > :26:38.big, we just want you to get in touch! You could find yourself on

:26:39. > :26:44.the show on Monday, but we do have a Big Ben in the studio, give us a

:26:45. > :26:51.wave, good lad! Get in contact in the usual way, only Bens, large and

:26:52. > :26:59.small. Do you want me to carry on? OK! All show, we have been hiding

:27:00. > :27:05.rhymes in plain sight. Len has got the results, are you ready? There

:27:06. > :27:17.was one, the first one was three minutes past seven, we will do this,

:27:18. > :27:30.Len. Lucy Siegle with a beagle! Angie on Twitter, well done! The

:27:31. > :27:35.second one, there you go, Len's Len's Strictly paddle in a saddle.

:27:36. > :27:40.It was Phil who got that one right, that one was quite hard! Matt Baker

:27:41. > :27:52.with a cocktail shaker! There we are! And of course that was... Alex

:27:53. > :27:57.Jones eating two ice cream cones. And Ryan in Lancashire got the want

:27:58. > :28:07.of meeting cones, and the last one? That was Dave at a rave! Of course

:28:08. > :28:12.it was! Zoe on Twitter gets that one right. Thanks for your guesses. One

:28:13. > :28:18.more question, where will you be watching the new series of Strictly?

:28:19. > :28:26.In the States? I have even bought a new telly at home! The telly broke.

:28:27. > :28:33.I have only had its 22 years, I can't believe it! Nothing lasts! And

:28:34. > :28:38.with Strictly in the states, you are still doing that, you will continue

:28:39. > :28:42.to do that? It is the last one in my contract, so I have to go back to do

:28:43. > :28:49.that. And then we will see, they may not want me, or they may have had

:28:50. > :28:53.enough of it. We are devastated that you are doing one there and are not

:28:54. > :28:59.here, it will be odd without you! Will you give us a quick shuffle

:29:00. > :29:06.before you go? What do you want? Anything, something to play us out!

:29:07. > :29:11.There you go, there he is! Thank you so much! All the very best, good

:29:12. > :29:16.luck with the game show, Partners In Rhyme is an add 6:45, Saturday

:29:17. > :29:19.evening on BBC One. Tomorrow, an exclusive interview with Tom Cruise

:29:20. > :29:23.and Ella Eyre will be performing, the show is going to be heaven, so

:29:24. > :29:36.hopefully we will see you at... Seven!

:29:37. > :29:41.From now on, you have a mistress, not a master.

:29:42. > :29:45.I don't think I've ever seen a face as beautiful as yours.