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:00:17. > :00:19.Hello and welcome to a slightly later One Show

:00:20. > :00:26.Yes, we're on half an hour later so the news could cover the tens

:00:27. > :00:28.of thousands of people who lined the streets of Manchester

:00:29. > :00:31.for the homecoming parade celebrating Team GB's Olympic

:00:32. > :00:37.and Paralympic heroes after their amazing success in Rio.

:00:38. > :00:44.Let's have a round of applause... There's another parade

:00:45. > :00:54.in London tomorrow. our guest tonight has announced

:00:55. > :01:10.he'll play his first big concert since last on stage nine years ago.

:01:11. > :01:13.Now, we could sit here and tell you how many records he's sold...

:01:14. > :01:17.Or how many music awards are on his mantlepiece.

:01:18. > :01:23.Instead, we'll just let you enjoy some of his best...

:01:24. > :01:40.# Please give me one more night Give me one more night.

:01:41. > :01:52.# Two hearts beating just one mind. Please welcome, yes, it is Phil

:01:53. > :02:05.Collins. Phil Collins. Well, we just did that

:02:06. > :02:08.really embarrassing things of singing your songs while you are sat

:02:09. > :02:13.there. You cannot help it. It is nice to hear it. You've got a nice

:02:14. > :02:19.voice. Only you. You are the first one to say that, Phil, ever. To be

:02:20. > :02:23.fair, you were tapping away. You were doing the old base drum. I was

:02:24. > :02:29.trying to bang the old leg back into place! You announced you will do

:02:30. > :02:32.some concerts in London, Paris, co-long. By the time you get on

:02:33. > :02:37.stage it will be ten years since the last time. Why the change of heart?

:02:38. > :02:47.Six years ago you said you would retire. Well, I did. I did want to

:02:48. > :02:52.stop and I did want to stop mainly because, you know, being married and

:02:53. > :02:56.having two young children, Matthew was just born and Nicholas was about

:02:57. > :03:05.three or four, I wanted to be at home and be a dad. That was very

:03:06. > :03:09.important to me. Unfortunately, my marriage broke up around that same

:03:10. > :03:19.time, which means when I retired there was no family to be with. But

:03:20. > :03:24.anyway, I kind of felt that I'd kind of needed to be off the round about.

:03:25. > :03:31.Now I am back with the two younger kids. They have encouraged me. You

:03:32. > :03:39.know... When they get in the car, it's like play daddy's music. Oh, is

:03:40. > :03:43.that true? Play daddy's music and Matthew who is 11 will say, when are

:03:44. > :03:50.you going to write some new stuff, dad? They are really to blame. That

:03:51. > :03:54.is the point it's so cross-generational. I remember as a

:03:55. > :04:02.young lad I would travel a long way to go to gym and every night my mum

:04:03. > :04:08.would put your music on. Now I pass it on to my children as well. You

:04:09. > :04:14.have got your book, your album. It's all going off, Phil. All systems go,

:04:15. > :04:19.as they say. First I will put your motoring head on. OK, you are

:04:20. > :04:24.passing a cyclist, how much room do you give them? Do you know how much

:04:25. > :04:32.room you are supposed to? Not officially. No That is the question.

:04:33. > :04:35.Trish has been out with the police force who are trying to make sure

:04:36. > :04:54.that drivers keep cyclists at arm's length..

:04:55. > :05:03.While drivers find some cyclists attitude infuriating, the statistics

:05:04. > :05:07.show those on bikes are 17 times more likely to be kill ond the road

:05:08. > :05:10.than those in car. Here in Birmingham the police are trying to

:05:11. > :05:21.do something about it, by going undercover. Today this PC is donning

:05:22. > :05:24.some lick consider. With his bike-mounted cameras he's going

:05:25. > :05:31.undercover to spot drivers who are too close to comfort. There is a

:05:32. > :05:35.close-pass, something which cyclists hate and fear.

:05:36. > :05:42.Anyone caught today can choose to have either three points on their

:05:43. > :05:47.licence or a 50-minute talking to by the officer. When passing anyone on

:05:48. > :05:52.the road you should give it at least a car's door width. There's no way

:05:53. > :05:56.motorists would know to be this far from the bike. We need to take the

:05:57. > :06:04.education back to the car drivers and remind them of the law. I wait

:06:05. > :06:08.for offenders with PC Mark Godson. How important is it to be

:06:09. > :06:16.undercover? We want cyclists to be treated like any other cyclist on

:06:17. > :06:24.the road. That way you get the true nature of the driving. The driver is

:06:25. > :06:34.disciplined. He doesn't want to talk tows. Here a -- talk to us. Here a

:06:35. > :06:37.bin lorry has been stopped. Most drivers choose the awareness session

:06:38. > :06:43.over points on their license. The most important thing is if you try

:06:44. > :06:47.and take away this 1.5 metre, this five-foot distance. What do you

:06:48. > :06:53.think you did wrong today? Nothing. I thought I gave him plenty of

:06:54. > :06:58.space. I cycle myself. You should be a better driver when it comes to

:06:59. > :07:03.cyclists. . I was on my way to an appointment. Cyclists are instructed

:07:04. > :07:08.to ride one metres from the curb. That is the instruction. This is the

:07:09. > :07:12.space that should be between your car and the cyclist.

:07:13. > :07:18.OK. That is much bigger than I thought. Say your cyclist is on his

:07:19. > :07:25.lane here, how wide are my arms and elbows out now? Arms and shoulders.

:07:26. > :07:30.If I can reach across and touch your car, you are too close. We know you

:07:31. > :07:36.don't drive badly, we want to make you more aware of vulnerable road

:07:37. > :07:41.users. It is a good job I used my indicator now I have been pulled in.

:07:42. > :07:47.In a double whammy Chris is passed too close by a driver who appears to

:07:48. > :07:54.be reading at the same time. Just over there for us. While you

:07:55. > :07:58.were driving your car if you've anything causing a distraction you

:07:59. > :08:03.are a danger and specifically to cyclists. You were very close to

:08:04. > :08:08.that cyclist. Too close. Again the driver didn't want to talk to us.

:08:09. > :08:12.Before he finishes his shift it seems Chris has plans for me. How

:08:13. > :08:22.did it go today? Successful today. We stopped a number of motorists in

:08:23. > :08:24.a short space of time. I am definitely more used to four wheels

:08:25. > :08:32.than two. We have to take you up some hills.

:08:33. > :08:36.Oh, no. Chris is keen to ride two abreast, which surprises me because

:08:37. > :08:42.it infuriates motorists. It is not against the law. The Highway Code

:08:43. > :08:47.suggest cyclists ride two abreast. You only have one length of bicycle

:08:48. > :08:52.to overtake. If I were to drop in behind you now, that car driver has

:08:53. > :08:59.two lengths of bicycle to overtake. OK, so we have got to... We have it

:09:00. > :09:04.going past us now. That was scary! I will have so much more respect for

:09:05. > :09:10.cyclists knowing what it is like being in the saddle.

:09:11. > :09:14.It has been a real eye-opener today. If it means that drivers give

:09:15. > :09:18.cyclists more room on the road I, for one, will get on my bike a lot

:09:19. > :09:24.more. And Trish has cycled here,

:09:25. > :09:29.incredible. It is lovely to see you. Cyclists can cycle a full metre away

:09:30. > :09:35.from the curb. Forget mind the gap, it is a huge gap. The Highway Code

:09:36. > :09:40.does not say where to position themselves. Use the default

:09:41. > :09:44.position. We speak to scoop cycle Training UK. They said make sure you

:09:45. > :09:49.can be seen and if in doubt, use the middle of the lane as a default

:09:50. > :09:54.position. OK, is this scheme going to be rolled out across the whole

:09:55. > :09:58.country Yes. Police Scotland are looking at it. It has gone as far as

:09:59. > :10:03.Canada, Denmark and Switzerland. So they are looking to take this on.

:10:04. > :10:09.Undercover pedal police are here to stay. Wow my brother-in-law is in

:10:10. > :10:13.Humberside Police. I can not imagine him in like ca. Within two or three

:10:14. > :10:19.minutes of being in London last night I saw a cyclist cycling across

:10:20. > :10:24.a red light without any lights on. This is the thing. There are big

:10:25. > :10:29.fines for that. Absolutely. Cyclists do get fined if they cycle badly.

:10:30. > :10:36.For example, Greater Manchester Police you can do a course to avoid

:10:37. > :10:41.the fine, but if you don't... He was cycling very well, but just? The

:10:42. > :10:47.dark, through a red line. It wasn't like he was cycling bad. He was

:10:48. > :10:52.fantastic. Motorists are still to blame in serious collisions, 57% of

:10:53. > :10:57.motorists didn't see the cyclist at junctions. They've got no lights,

:10:58. > :11:00.that's all. We will have to leave it there.

:11:01. > :11:07.25 years ago this magazine here was launched to help the homeless. To

:11:08. > :11:11.celebrate its success, the man who created it went back to his old

:11:12. > :11:17.college to reveal some of his own big issues.

:11:18. > :11:21.My name is John Bird, are or plain Lord Bird, if you like.

:11:22. > :11:23.In 1991 I started The Big Issue, the world's biggest

:11:24. > :11:27.Today I'm giving a One Show Life Lecture about the things I've

:11:28. > :11:33.And it's a story of high art and low life.

:11:34. > :11:44.From the age of ten we lived up there, at number 30.

:11:45. > :11:46.We were in the orphanage for three years and before

:11:47. > :11:50.that we were in a slum and before that we were in a slum.

:11:51. > :11:58.Still the noisy King's Road, New King's Road.

:11:59. > :12:01.It was a terrible place to bring children up.

:12:02. > :12:04.Dad used to drink a lot, my mum used to drink a lot.

:12:05. > :12:14.Given five years probation for shoplifting at the age of ten.

:12:15. > :12:17.And this went on until I was nearly 16, when I got put

:12:18. > :12:24.You can see the initials of my brother, Peter Bird.

:12:25. > :12:33.You believed in education and you wanted to educate me

:12:34. > :12:35.and I remember you giving me my first ever book,

:12:36. > :12:40.I was trying to get you into the middle

:12:41. > :12:43.It didn't work, though, I'm sorry.

:12:44. > :12:51.There is no doubt at this point I was on my way to a

:12:52. > :12:54.But whilst in prison I discovered something that changed

:12:55. > :13:03.When I was 18 I was told that if you were an art student you got

:13:04. > :13:15.I was going to evening classes, pretending I was an art student.

:13:16. > :13:19.I said to one of the instructors, do you think it would be a good idea

:13:20. > :13:21.if I applied to become an art student.

:13:22. > :13:24.He said, I thought you were an art student!

:13:25. > :13:26.Only art students are allowed in here.

:13:27. > :13:29.And they asked me if I had any levels, any O-levels,

:13:30. > :13:32.A-levels and all those things and I said, I haven't got anything.

:13:33. > :13:34.So they said, well, we'll handle that.

:13:35. > :13:36.Suddenly, I wasn't a tea-leaf anymore but a promising painter

:13:37. > :13:41.and fine art printer at the Chelsea School of Art.

:13:42. > :13:45.But not everyone shared my new-found sense of purpose in life.

:13:46. > :13:48.My mum took my student grant and threw me out on the streets.

:13:49. > :13:52.I know experienced homelessness first-hand.

:13:53. > :13:56.I used to sleep under the rhododendrons.

:13:57. > :13:59.Largely because people couldn't see you but also

:14:00. > :14:02.because it was near the road, so if somebody did come

:14:03. > :14:05.and try to get hold of me, I could scream and run out

:14:06. > :14:11.In 1967 I decided to run away to Paris, which at the time

:14:12. > :14:15.seemed more exciting and, yes, artistic.

:14:16. > :14:18.Here, my printing skills even came in handy.

:14:19. > :14:22.I used them to print some pretty revolutionary material.

:14:23. > :14:26.I now knew what I wanted to do in life.

:14:27. > :14:30.Fight injustice through the power of art and the written word.

:14:31. > :14:34.Back in London in 1991, I launched The Big Issue.

:14:35. > :14:39.And 25 years on, it's still going strong.

:14:40. > :14:42.So, with my somewhat unorthodox background,

:14:43. > :14:46.what lessons can I give to the students of my alma mater

:14:47. > :14:54.I'm here to kind of give you a little bit of guidance.

:14:55. > :15:00.The first lesson I would offer anybody who was starting out

:15:01. > :15:03.as an artist is you are moving into a world full of sharks.

:15:04. > :15:05.People who will promise you the earth and deliver

:15:06. > :15:14.The other interesting one is always start from where you are.

:15:15. > :15:21.A severely damaged post-war piece of social wastage who eventually

:15:22. > :15:29.You have to learn to be the best at something.

:15:30. > :15:37.You have to burn the candle at both ends.

:15:38. > :15:40.You have to sweat blood for what you believe in.

:15:41. > :15:42.Chelsea College of Arts should be full of aspiring geniuses!

:15:43. > :15:50.Thanks to John - the 25th Anniversary issue

:15:51. > :16:08.Your autobiography is out now. You don't hold back. Can we start at the

:16:09. > :16:12.beginning, when you were a little lad with your very very first drum

:16:13. > :16:18.kit and tell us that lovely story that you put there the book. The

:16:19. > :16:23.first thing when I was three, that I remember was a plastic drum. And

:16:24. > :16:30.back in my day when it was Christmas you got a soldier, a ball. Trapping

:16:31. > :16:35.Ian. O you know, you didn't get the complete Star Wars fleet. You didn't

:16:36. > :16:43.get a PlayStation with the games, so life was different. I took to this

:16:44. > :16:49.drum and so my uncles made me a drum kit, when I was five. I gradually, I

:16:50. > :16:56.got to know a friend across the road who was selling a snare drum, bass

:16:57. > :17:03.drum, and then at 12, I made the ultimate sacrifice of selling my

:17:04. > :17:12.brother's train set. Did you ask him permission? Permission? Permission?

:17:13. > :17:18.No, of course not. My mum and I went 50% each on a cheap drum kit and we

:17:19. > :17:22.went to a shop called Alberts in Twickenham, which you know, of

:17:23. > :17:28.course is no longer there, but you know, I bought a drum kit, and that,

:17:29. > :17:33.that saw me through the early 60s, you know. The early 6 o 0s was when

:17:34. > :17:40.it was all happening. It became at one point a toss up, between acting,

:17:41. > :17:44.and drumming. Not for me it didn't. Your parents were supportive either

:17:45. > :17:49.way. They were keen on that path for you. Back then, if you want to be a

:17:50. > :17:54.drummer you had to wait until you were 18, 19 before you could do it.

:17:55. > :18:02.Now you have multi-platinum records out if you are 14. So, I did the

:18:03. > :18:08.acting thing, it was great fun, I mean some things were much more fun

:18:09. > :18:13.than others, the art full dodger in Oliver with Jack wild there. You

:18:14. > :18:17.know, that was fantastic, then I had some dodgy moments and really all I

:18:18. > :18:26.wanted to do was play drums, so as soon as I could, escape, I did. Much

:18:27. > :18:32.to my father's I wouldn't say disgust, that is too strong, he

:18:33. > :18:38.wasn't, he was disappointed. He felt it would be better for you to go

:18:39. > :18:41.into acting. No better to me to go into the City of London insurance.

:18:42. > :18:46.Really, there we are. Talking of going into the city we took a drum

:18:47. > :18:52.kit into the city, just to see what would happen. To see if we can find

:18:53. > :19:10.any budding Phil Collinses. This is what happened. Look.

:19:11. > :19:24.It is like going into a trance when you play drums.

:19:25. > :19:25.I play African drums but you won't play because neighbours may

:19:26. > :19:51.complain. Really liberating. Getting my

:19:52. > :19:56.frustrations out. When I am drumming it makes me feel

:19:57. > :20:07.powerful. How did it feel? Exciting.

:20:08. > :20:12.APPLAUSE So what do you reckon? Anybody there

:20:13. > :20:19.you thought had a real knack? Yes, there was stuff at the end that was

:20:20. > :20:27.kind of, you know... What impressed me was three or four guys in, the

:20:28. > :20:33.sound changed, and it became more roomy, and that sounded impressive.

:20:34. > :20:41.Sometimes it is not what you play, it's the sound of what you play, you

:20:42. > :20:46.know. You can do... And if the sound is right... That is what I always

:20:47. > :20:54.say about drumming. LAUGHTER

:20:55. > :20:58.. So true. I think it is a great idea, for kids to have, if your

:20:59. > :21:05.house allows, to have a place because it lets off steam, and it

:21:06. > :21:10.kind of, you know, gives you a bit of, you know, this is me doing it, I

:21:11. > :21:13.think that is good for kids. I couldn't agree more and your

:21:14. > :21:19.household has been full of music, and you were saying earlier on about

:21:20. > :21:25.your sons and how they are brilliant drummers. Simon is 40, he is a

:21:26. > :21:34.fantastic drummer, he plays piano, writes, sing, does his own records,

:21:35. > :21:40.Nicholas, he is 15 now, and he is, he is awesome as a drummer, I have

:21:41. > :21:44.to say, awesome. I haven't taught them, I mean Matthew my youngest is

:21:45. > :21:48.a fantastic soccer player, I say soccer because he is an American

:21:49. > :21:56.man, it is football really. If you live over there football is

:21:57. > :21:59.something else. But it is yes, I am lucky, all my kids have become

:22:00. > :22:05.talented. It is just as well, really. It is just as well, because

:22:06. > :22:09.your dedication to drumming has resulted and you talk candidly in

:22:10. > :22:22.the book about it in lots of health problems as a result. How you now

:22:23. > :22:26.then? Coughs I am OK. I still have this problem with my left arm a bit.

:22:27. > :22:33.It is getting better. I should practise. You know, you get to

:22:34. > :22:37.Carnegie haul by practising, but I had back surgery a year ago -- hall.

:22:38. > :22:43.That left me with a numb foot, hence the stick I arrived with. And it is

:22:44. > :22:51.just the nerves need to regenerate. Apart from that I am fine. That is

:22:52. > :22:54.why I call the book Not Dead Yet because a lot has been made of the

:22:55. > :22:58.health. It took you five years to write it, you have waited a long

:22:59. > :23:02.time to do it, what is the reason for you putting all this down? You

:23:03. > :23:07.say at the beginning in the first few page, this is my view, the

:23:08. > :23:12.events the way I see them. Have you tried to set the record straight

:23:13. > :23:18.with this? It wasn't meant to be a get even book, it was just to take a

:23:19. > :23:22.bit of the lid off things, you know, that we all have, we have all got,

:23:23. > :23:28.we have all been young with our mum's -- mums and dads, we have

:23:29. > :23:32.children, and suddenly, you know, you, and the witness accident,

:23:33. > :23:39.witnesses to accidents, you know, someone said he wore a grey jumper,

:23:40. > :23:44.someone said he wore a blue jumper, we all perceive things differently,

:23:45. > :23:48.so in life, my camera went off at a certain time and I remember things a

:23:49. > :23:52.certain way. So I kind of pre-empt that by saying, you know, this is

:23:53. > :23:57.the way I remember it happening. Phil it is just the most

:23:58. > :24:01.extraordinary read. Page after page, decade after decade, and we haven't

:24:02. > :24:05.got any more time to talk about it. We talked about so much. Any way, go

:24:06. > :24:06.out and read it. It south on Thursday. It really is something

:24:07. > :24:10.else. OK, let's give a big welcome

:24:11. > :24:13.to a new species to the UK. This is the Viper's-bugloss mason

:24:14. > :24:15.bee, which has just been spotted for the very

:24:16. > :24:17.first time on our shores. And if you're a rare bee

:24:18. > :24:20.connoisseur, then George has found something for you -

:24:21. > :24:33.at a very unlikely site. Can I have wick in Essex was once

:24:34. > :24:37.earmarked for an oil refinery, building work started but in the

:24:38. > :24:41.'70s all development stopped. The abandoned brownfield site has been

:24:42. > :24:45.dubbed the wild east of modern Britain.

:24:46. > :24:52.The oil refinery developers dredged the Thames and dumped the shell

:24:53. > :24:56.laden nutrient rich soil on the surrounding land, inadvertently

:24:57. > :25:01.created the perfect habitat for plant, birds and invertebrates.

:25:02. > :25:09.By some measure of diversity can I have wick could be as rich as a

:25:10. > :25:14.rainforest. Doctor Sarah Henshall of bug life

:25:15. > :25:19.manages the site, along with the RSPB. This is an SSI, a site of

:25:20. > :25:26.special scientific interest but it is particularly so because of the

:25:27. > :25:30.insects. There is round 1400 species. It has everything they need

:25:31. > :25:35.to complete the life cycle. There is areas of ground to bask in, lots of

:25:36. > :25:39.floral research, nectar and pollen and they scrub things over in

:25:40. > :25:45.winter. Sarah will help me find insects and many are very rare.

:25:46. > :25:51.This is a photograph of one of our rarest and most threatened bees in

:25:52. > :25:57.the UK. Suffered massive decline due to a loss of wild flowers. I hope we

:25:58. > :26:04.will see some beetles. The bomb bah deer beetle. I I can't wait to get

:26:05. > :26:10.on with this. Shall we get on? Yes. We have recruited an army of

:26:11. > :26:15.volunteers to help us do a bioglitz. We will Garner as many species of

:26:16. > :26:20.insect as we can across the varied habitat. And it is not long before

:26:21. > :26:30.the tree beaters find and interesting beastie. What is under

:26:31. > :26:35.there? Lovely. A long horn beetle. It is just fantastically hairy. Not,

:26:36. > :26:45.I have to say a particularly rare thing. Nice but not rare.

:26:46. > :26:48.The insect catcher sucks up one of our target species. What have you

:26:49. > :27:02.got there? A bomb bah deer beetle. Wonderful.

:27:03. > :27:04.That is so cool. The next find comes from the grass

:27:05. > :27:10.sweepers. Brilliant, this could be what we are

:27:11. > :27:17.looking for. George. Is that it? Is that the insect? This is one of our

:27:18. > :27:22.most rarest bees, that is fantastic. It looks like a worker. Once

:27:23. > :27:28.widespread there are now only seven populations left. That is less than

:27:29. > :27:35.2,000 bees. We have a Queen, which is very very

:27:36. > :27:40.exciting. My first ever. This are quiet at the moment. If you hold

:27:41. > :27:44.them close to your ear... Yeah. Oh yes. A little buzz, a high pitched

:27:45. > :27:54.buzz. Beautiful.

:27:55. > :28:04.It is bee-autiful. She is having a feed. It is amazing we are under the

:28:05. > :28:12.flight path of London airport but this is just an oasis of wildlife.

:28:13. > :28:18.Most of it is stunning like this ruby moth that lays its eggs in the

:28:19. > :28:22.nests of other bees and wasps. We have collected well over 100

:28:23. > :28:27.species, we have done it, just before the rain. So I think the

:28:28. > :28:33.sooner we get this stuff released the better. Well done.

:28:34. > :28:37.I am staggered at the diversity of animals here, and I am very glad

:28:38. > :28:43.that the oil refinery business started their work but failed to

:28:44. > :28:47.finish it. Thank you Phil. We have to say a

:28:48. > :28:53.very big thank you to Phil Collins. The album which we never got the

:28:54. > :28:57.chance to talk about, The Singles is out now. We will be back tomorrow

:28:58. > :29:03.with Donny Osmond. Have a lovely evening. Bye.

:29:04. > :29:06.Behind the genteel facades of Victorian London's streets,

:29:07. > :29:10.Can't believe people had to live like this all their life.

:29:11. > :29:14.BBC Two will bring a 19th-century slum back to life...