:00:17. > :00:18.Hello and welcome to The One Show with Michelle Ackerley...
:00:19. > :00:24.Tonight we have the mind-boggling story of the
:00:25. > :00:28.Robertson family who were lost at sea for 38 days in an open boat
:00:29. > :00:38.If you cannot remember it, it is one to watch.
:00:39. > :00:40.And Nick Knowles will be revealing how
:00:41. > :00:42.he's been working with the Royal Princes to promote mental
:00:43. > :00:51.We will be talking to nick in a moment and three of the runners
:00:52. > :00:56.little bit later. Sorry to interrupts the training, by the way.
:00:57. > :00:59.First though today's dramatic election news
:01:00. > :01:01.and two people who are, I think it's fair to say,
:01:02. > :01:17.You're not going to pretend you knew this was coming? I was on the M4
:01:18. > :01:23.trying to have a holiday and I got a call from the One Show editor. If
:01:24. > :01:27.you are people like me and Matt, it is quite exciting. You wait five
:01:28. > :01:32.years for an election to come around and three come at once. We had the
:01:33. > :01:37.referendum, the Scottish referendum and another one. Politics has
:01:38. > :01:43.suddenly got very exciting. Your eyes would glinting. I am so
:01:44. > :01:50.excited! You cannot get enough of it. Not just from a work point of
:01:51. > :01:54.view. It is good for people like us. For a punter, it is like Fifa saying
:01:55. > :01:58.there will be a World Cup in six weeks. All of this stuff happening
:01:59. > :02:03.when you think about what it will mean and all the characters back in
:02:04. > :02:09.play. Nigel barrage will be outside of a pub, drinking and smoking. --
:02:10. > :02:24.Farage. Are these the questions, by the way?
:02:25. > :02:29.All of it, I cannot wait. How are we going to know who to believe?
:02:30. > :02:34.Theresa May said there would not be an election now there is. Overall,
:02:35. > :02:38.people kind of pick and choose the things they take seriously as broken
:02:39. > :02:42.promises. Once an election starts it is about who you want to run the
:02:43. > :02:48.country. If it were a broken promise about investment in the NHS, put
:02:49. > :02:52.that on the of a bus on the previous campaign, we might feel sore about
:02:53. > :02:57.that. Once the campaign starts you get swept up in it. Remember
:02:58. > :03:01.America. Once the things are called, all the wonderful stuff and it would
:03:02. > :03:08.be such a beautiful election. You'll be so beautiful. Theresa May will
:03:09. > :03:10.get her own mandate. -- it will be so beautiful. You are going to love
:03:11. > :03:19.it so much. Is everyone else as excited
:03:20. > :03:26.as Matt and Amol though? When the BBC broke the news
:03:27. > :03:31.at 10:55am with this tweet, we told our film teams working
:03:32. > :03:33.around the UK to drop what they were working on and ask
:03:34. > :03:36.this simple question. Are you happy or unhappy to be
:03:37. > :03:39.heading back to the polling stations just two years
:03:40. > :03:48.after the last election? I am not going to be calling a snap
:03:49. > :03:54.election. I have been very clear that we need that of time, that's
:03:55. > :03:57.the late stability. I have just chaired a meeting of the cabinet
:03:58. > :04:03.where we have agreed the Government shall call a general election. It is
:04:04. > :04:09.time to take the challenge to the Tories. If she wants to call an
:04:10. > :04:13.election, we should be ready to take her on. I think it was going to
:04:14. > :04:19.come, especially with the debate about Europe. She is not really for
:04:20. > :04:23.it herself. What she is looking for is a vote of confidence, more than
:04:24. > :04:29.anything else. I had it in my head there was not going to be another
:04:30. > :04:35.election until 2020. The fact it is happening now in 2017 is quite a
:04:36. > :04:40.shock, but it is a cool shock. I think it is shocking she should go
:04:41. > :04:47.back on her policy before which was not to have a snap general election.
:04:48. > :04:52.There is no opposition. It could be that will make Labour disappear. It
:04:53. > :04:56.probably will not unite the country but it will give whoever gets in a
:04:57. > :05:03.stronger mandate. The last time I voted Liberal Democrat, so I think
:05:04. > :05:09.it is quite a good time for us. I do not think calling a general election
:05:10. > :05:18.is a good idea. Politics here is a shambles. I think she has picked it
:05:19. > :05:22.tactically got that she knows the Labour Party is in crisis. She could
:05:23. > :05:27.be the leader of the country needs. I like her. She is a very strong
:05:28. > :05:33.lady. I would be quite happy to vote. I am happy she has called a
:05:34. > :05:40.general election. With the EU referendum campaign asked you, I do
:05:41. > :05:46.not think people understood it. It is a good chance for people to get
:05:47. > :05:50.almost a second chance. Labour in the UK are so weakened. Can Jeremy
:05:51. > :05:56.Corbyn get a strong Labour vote out Qwest might is hard to say. I think
:05:57. > :06:01.he will. I can see this backfiring on Theresa May, the same way it
:06:02. > :06:07.backfired on her predecessor. I think she has just got fed up. The
:06:08. > :06:11.summer is coming. She wants out. Instead of giving in her notice like
:06:12. > :06:17.a normal job, she has called a general election. It is like another
:06:18. > :06:24.gain. You're not going to walk out there if you know you will lose. She
:06:25. > :06:28.wants to get people talking about politics. She was never elected. To
:06:29. > :06:32.get a mandate, she needs the will of the people to go with it. I think
:06:33. > :06:36.she needed to do it to get the backing of the people. I think it is
:06:37. > :06:41.a good idea. They will settle a lot of the questions in the country at
:06:42. > :06:44.the moment. Referendum after referendum, election after election.
:06:45. > :06:48.I think a lot of people are getting a bit fed up. I think it is the
:06:49. > :06:54.Tories taking advantage of the polls. It will put them in a strong
:06:55. > :06:59.position for negotiating Brexit. I think it is just another part of the
:07:00. > :07:04.Brexit gains the Tory Party has been playing right from the word go. She
:07:05. > :07:08.is not on the coat-tails of David Cameron for that she is standing on
:07:09. > :07:11.her own. I do not think she has much of viable opposition.
:07:12. > :07:24.Thank you to one and all. Who is that boy in Cardiff! He was great,
:07:25. > :07:28.wasn't he? Well done. Thank you very much indeed. Let's talk about this
:07:29. > :07:32.decision by Theresa May. Apparently she made the decision just before
:07:33. > :07:37.Easter. She was walking with her husband in Wales. I wish she is a
:07:38. > :07:42.keen walker. We must set the scene. She has a spring water with a
:07:43. > :07:50.thermos rucksack and walking poles. There we are. She is surveying this
:07:51. > :07:54.political landscape. We will go with the pros and cons of the
:07:55. > :08:12.eventualities. Let's start with the pros. Do you want me to be Theresa
:08:13. > :08:16.May? Keep it to politics, will you? She is saying, Philip... Arguments
:08:17. > :08:20.in favour. I am doing the hardest thing a British minister has had to
:08:21. > :08:24.do for a long time. I need a mandate, backing from the public
:08:25. > :08:28.what I am going to do and a big majority in the House of Commons. It
:08:29. > :08:32.will never be so easy for me. I have a massive lead in the polls. I am 20
:08:33. > :08:38.points ahead of Jeremy Corbyn for them if I do not do it now, I might
:08:39. > :08:43.always reject it -- regret it. What will be going through her head? The
:08:44. > :08:48.cons are that she said she would not have an election, so it those are
:08:49. > :08:52.the seeds of doubt about integrity. That is right. For a lot of people,
:08:53. > :08:57.she is reminiscent of Gordon Brown. They both followed charismatic
:08:58. > :09:00.leaders were a break from the Cabinet style government, sofa style
:09:01. > :09:04.government. Gordon found himself in a position where he could have won
:09:05. > :09:12.the general election and he chose not to. Theresa May will have had
:09:13. > :09:18.that at the back of her mind. All the other downsides are displayed on
:09:19. > :09:23.Gordon Brown's TV. People will think, you're only calculating
:09:24. > :09:25.anyway. That is part of the downside. If the polls were more
:09:26. > :09:30.narrow, you would not have called it. She can say what she likes about
:09:31. > :09:35.Brexit. She was saying the opposite yesterday. In her head she says it
:09:36. > :09:40.is a calculation. That is worth the cost to her reputation in the
:09:41. > :09:45.short-term. I think the biggest reason not to call this election now
:09:46. > :09:49.is people could say, why should I ever trust you again is might you
:09:50. > :09:53.said time and again you are not going to call an election. Now you
:09:54. > :09:59.have changed your mind. Why should I trust you? Theresa May is an unusual
:10:00. > :10:06.Prime Minister. She is not like David Cameron or Tony Blair. She is
:10:07. > :10:11.very serious. She is, trust me, I am your leader. Talk about strong and
:10:12. > :10:14.stable leadership. Now she has changed her mind. Regarding what the
:10:15. > :10:22.world is thinking, what will Donald Trump be saying down his camera? I
:10:23. > :10:26.love Theresa May. We got very close. I got close to a lot of women, like
:10:27. > :10:28.I did Theresa May. You only held hands. Very big hands. You know what
:10:29. > :10:34.that means! A pleasure. One of our leading mental health
:10:35. > :10:37.professionals has said that by talking about his mother's death,
:10:38. > :10:44.Prince Harry had done more good for sufferers in 25
:10:45. > :10:47.minutes than he had been In a moment, Nick Knowles will be
:10:48. > :10:52.telling us about his work in this area with Harry and The Duke
:10:53. > :11:08.and Duchess of Cambridge ahead of This is 24-year-old music artist.
:11:09. > :11:14.After being filmed on the tube singing along to a Rhianna song he
:11:15. > :11:19.became a viral sensation. The video was viewed over two and a half
:11:20. > :11:24.million times. What people did not realise is this was one of the
:11:25. > :11:29.darkest times of his life. He was suffering with mental illness. I
:11:30. > :11:34.felt exposed. It became overwhelming and I was under a lot of pressure.
:11:35. > :11:38.It was the final blow when I saw the video. I thought the best thing
:11:39. > :11:44.would be to run away and hide in myself. So, that's what I chose to
:11:45. > :11:49.do. I could not tell you what happened. I was so confused. In my
:11:50. > :11:55.darkest moments, they started harming myself. The mind is very
:11:56. > :12:01.powerful. That is where my mind was at at the time. It is estimated
:12:02. > :12:05.that, in an average year, one in four Brits will experience the
:12:06. > :12:10.mental health problem. If you are a black man, you are 17 times more
:12:11. > :12:14.likely than your white counterpart to be diagnosed with a psychotic
:12:15. > :12:19.illness. This is due to factors some professionals have said may include
:12:20. > :12:22.poverty, racism and cultural misunderstandings. This is a
:12:23. > :12:31.long-standing issue. It is something that has been a challenge for many
:12:32. > :12:33.years. If you will have effective intervention and therapy, the
:12:34. > :12:36.service has to be built around understanding of these issues. We
:12:37. > :12:39.found that having music as a way in gauging these people, it has been a
:12:40. > :12:42.big part of a lot of these initiatives. People need to
:12:43. > :12:49.understand the value of the ways into these communities. It is hard
:12:50. > :12:54.for black males to deal with mental illness because they are frowned
:12:55. > :13:03.upon. People throw jokes around. You are crazy. I throw jokes around as
:13:04. > :13:07.well. In 2014, Kenneth, also known by his stage name, was sectioned
:13:08. > :13:12.under the Mental Health Act. He has been battling with his conditions
:13:13. > :13:21.ever since. This is the magic that I come to every night. It is two mg,
:13:22. > :13:26.three mg. It calms me down and abandons out my thoughts and stuff.
:13:27. > :13:32.I had no one to talk to about it at the time, only me. These thoughts
:13:33. > :13:36.and feelings I was feeling, I kept them to myself. It was hard to share
:13:37. > :13:40.probably because of embarrassment, probably because of the image I have
:13:41. > :13:44.built up for myself. Now I understand it is cool to turn to
:13:45. > :13:49.people. You can talk to whoever you want. Following a brief time in the
:13:50. > :13:53.music industry where he enjoyed success as part of the group,
:13:54. > :13:57.Kenneth now sees music as a way to highlight his own personal battle
:13:58. > :14:00.with mental illness. Most of my friends find out more stuff through
:14:01. > :14:06.the music. They cannot wait to hear what's next. They will find out the
:14:07. > :14:15.hidden agenda I have not told them yet. He uses music as a form of
:14:16. > :14:21.therapy. During recovery, he used the services of key changes, the
:14:22. > :14:28.charity who uses this as a remedy. Tonight he is attending one of their
:14:29. > :14:36.regular open mike nights. Accompanied by another man after he
:14:37. > :14:41.saw the you video online. When I saw it, I knew exactly what was going
:14:42. > :14:45.on. I knew he was trying to block everything out and not fall back
:14:46. > :14:53.into a relapse, a zone. That is what music does. I think it helps you. A
:14:54. > :15:00.lot of people do not know. That is what really drove me over the edge.
:15:01. > :15:05.Music is literally my only show. I used it to keep my head above water.
:15:06. > :15:09.That was used against me. Music has given me a voice to vent and a place
:15:10. > :15:13.to express myself. That is important. Most people going through
:15:14. > :15:17.our situation do not have a voice. You can become their voice. I
:15:18. > :15:22.appreciate it. Well, that's how music
:15:23. > :15:25.can help some people. Nick Knowles is here now with three
:15:26. > :15:28.people using running - specifically preparing
:15:29. > :15:38.for the London Marathon - This is interesting. You have worked
:15:39. > :15:46.on lots of different big projects. How does this compare? It is a
:15:47. > :15:51.centre point of the BBC's health batch of programmes. It was a really
:15:52. > :15:56.ambitious project to take ten people, who were dealing with very
:15:57. > :16:00.different mental health issues. All of them suffering with anxiety. Even
:16:01. > :16:04.getting these people to gather together in a room, six months ago
:16:05. > :16:08.when cameras were around, was a tough ask. The first day when I was
:16:09. > :16:12.trying to make friends with everyone really quickly, they did not want to
:16:13. > :16:15.be there. You guys felt really comfortable did not want to be
:16:16. > :16:19.there. They bonded together so quickly. The fact they are out here
:16:20. > :16:26.talking about it in the way they are now is testament to the amazing work
:16:27. > :16:31.they have done in using music exercise as a coping strategy. We
:16:32. > :16:34.are trying to show that we can use exercise and good nutrition and
:16:35. > :16:35.getting out into the countryside to help you cope.
:16:36. > :16:38.It's all for a programme called Mind Over Marathon.
:16:39. > :16:51.The volunteers have been set the ultimate running challenge,
:16:52. > :16:55.completing the 2017 London Marathon. They will be getting some special
:16:56. > :16:58.support from The Royals whose campaign heads together aims to
:16:59. > :17:06.change the way we talk about mental health. I think we really just want
:17:07. > :17:11.to reduce the stigma. As a nation, talking about mental health is best
:17:12. > :17:16.for everybody. You are the heroes because you are standing up there
:17:17. > :17:20.telling your stories. Accomplishing 26 gruelling miles is not just a
:17:21. > :17:28.punishing physical undertaking but a mental one as well. Every single day
:17:29. > :17:32.at the moment. APPLAUSE The marathon is this Sunday and I
:17:33. > :17:37.know you have all had a big day today with Prince William, what is
:17:38. > :17:43.it been like to have such high profile people talking about things
:17:44. > :17:51.that relate to you? It's amazing to have met them but to have them as
:17:52. > :17:54.the heads of the campaign is such an amazing thing and for them to be
:17:55. > :18:02.open and honest and talk about what they have been through as well. But
:18:03. > :18:08.they really do listen. Those conversations are intimate. Yeah,
:18:09. > :18:14.they are such lovely people. It's been such a journey. Simon, tell me
:18:15. > :18:21.how you have changed in this process because it's been pretty hard-core.
:18:22. > :18:27.As Nick said, when we first came in the room at the start you could feel
:18:28. > :18:30.the tension. I guess when we first arrived at the first training camp
:18:31. > :18:38.there was ten of us all dealing with similar issues and that was a common
:18:39. > :18:41.thread, it is what we bonded over. It was a weird event in the evening
:18:42. > :18:46.where me and a few of the boys went to the pub and we were all just they
:18:47. > :18:51.are having a drink and talking about feelings and emotions and when would
:18:52. > :18:55.that happen in real life? But it was that thing which brought us together
:18:56. > :19:00.quickly. I think over the course of six months, when you are dealing
:19:01. > :19:03.with any sort of mental health condition it's the whole stigma
:19:04. > :19:07.about it and the idea that you cannot openly talk about it with
:19:08. > :19:14.anyone, down the pub or with family and friends, it's something you hide
:19:15. > :19:18.away from. There has been a cathartic process of making the
:19:19. > :19:23.documentary where we all know it's going to go out and it's going to be
:19:24. > :19:27.high-profile, we are going to have to start opening up to people about
:19:28. > :19:32.it and taking ownership of what we have been through. Shereece we are
:19:33. > :19:38.watching you do activity, how much is that helped, the physical side? I
:19:39. > :19:44.do not do sport, I run for the bus and that is the most I do! I am a
:19:45. > :19:50.singer so I thought I had good breath control until I started
:19:51. > :19:54.training and I realised I did not. Running helps me tuned into my
:19:55. > :19:58.breathing technique because I suffer from anxiety it's like I have
:19:59. > :20:04.literally for the past few months been able to take myself out of
:20:05. > :20:10.three episodes by myself so I know I have achieved something just from
:20:11. > :20:15.running. We can watch it all and Ford -- watch it all unfold. Now to
:20:16. > :20:21.the story we promised, this is the type of stuff movies are made of. It
:20:22. > :20:27.was 46 years ago we set sail from here, we live in Falmouth. My twin
:20:28. > :20:32.and I were nine and one Sunday morning he said why don't we sail
:20:33. > :20:41.around the world and crazily my dad said yes, good idea. Dad sold the
:20:42. > :20:46.farm for ?8,250 and most of it went on a wooden spoon. We could not
:20:47. > :20:52.believe our luck, we had been taken out of school and were going to my
:20:53. > :20:57.dad called the University of life. When we set sail the twins were 11,
:20:58. > :21:03.I was 16 and my sister was 18. The boat was about the same size as the
:21:04. > :21:07.boat we on now. Dad was a marinara, none of us had ever been on a boat
:21:08. > :21:13.before and when we got here he did not even take us around the harbour.
:21:14. > :21:17.He just set sail. We were so excited, we were going to cross the
:21:18. > :21:22.Atlantic and circumnavigate the world. In the the Hammers I met and
:21:23. > :21:30.fell in love with a young man and I decided to jump ship so to speak --
:21:31. > :21:35.in the Bahamas. I was a student, I wanted to travel around the world. I
:21:36. > :21:40.joined the Robertsons and little did I know what was going to befall me
:21:41. > :21:45.over the next few weeks and months. It happened a couple out of the
:21:46. > :21:52.blue. An almighty crash. Three killer whale is hitting the whole.
:21:53. > :21:57.It took the ball down with it. We had the dinghy and a life raft and
:21:58. > :22:02.we clambered aboard, we had some onions and oranges, six lemons, a
:22:03. > :22:06.bag of boiled sweets and enough water for ten days. After two weeks
:22:07. > :22:11.the raft was leaking so badly we had to leave it and climb aboard the
:22:12. > :22:16.dinghy. It was a matter of hanging in there and keeping your marbles.
:22:17. > :22:20.It rained and we collected rainwater which drained off the canopy but it
:22:21. > :22:25.was never enough. The worst thing was nobody knew we were missing. We
:22:26. > :22:30.would eat raw fish and we caught and eight raw shark. Then came the
:22:31. > :22:36.turtles which were the main staple for survival. We were pulling them
:22:37. > :22:42.out of the water, we got proficient in this after the second, third,
:22:43. > :22:49.fourth turtle. After 30 days we saw a ship on the horizon and fired
:22:50. > :22:52.flares. We thought the ordeal was over and we all just sat there and
:22:53. > :22:59.this big fishing boat came alongside. Japanese hands helping us
:23:00. > :23:04.on board. It was the most exhilarating moment of my life. When
:23:05. > :23:08.I was back in England presuming they were having a wonderful time I saw
:23:09. > :23:11.the six o'clock News and could not believe it. They still do not know
:23:12. > :23:16.what happened to the family because none of the men on board speak
:23:17. > :23:24.English. We sank in a very short time and had to survive from the sea
:23:25. > :23:29.for as long as we were able. We could not walk, we just fell over.
:23:30. > :23:36.We had not been using our leg muscles for 30 days. Those guys
:23:37. > :23:42.saved our lives. We brought the boat back and gave it to Falmouth for the
:23:43. > :23:52.public to see. There she is. Oh gosh, memories. 46 years. Since we
:23:53. > :23:56.were together. Without that we would not be here today. It is just as
:23:57. > :24:03.well you are 12 or 13, can you imagine us in it now? We never would
:24:04. > :24:08.have got in it. This is where dad carved the messages with his knife.
:24:09. > :24:14.Can you imagine what he was thinking? Only a man considering his
:24:15. > :24:19.own mortality. That was carved for somebody to find. People's eyes
:24:20. > :24:26.would scan it quickly but for us every detail tells a story. That is
:24:27. > :24:32.the log book your dad kept. Playing 20 questions and games of I Spy. All
:24:33. > :24:40.we could do our words beginning with S! Sunshine, C, stars. We thought we
:24:41. > :24:48.were going to be eaten alive but we were not. Such an incredible story.
:24:49. > :24:53.Amazing. That's all we've got Tom Ford tonight, Mind Over Marathon
:24:54. > :24:57.starts nine o'clock Thursday on BBC One. We will be back tomorrow with
:24:58. > :25:08.Dennis Quaid and James Norton, but good luck. APPLAUSE
:25:09. > :25:11.It's time to clock in... Whoooa!