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:00:21. > :00:26.Hello and welcome to The One Show. As we all know, the Defence

:00:26. > :00:31.Secretary, Liam Fox, is now out of his job. Who could have seen that

:00:31. > :00:34.one coming? I don't know what time this goes out, he may not be in a

:00:34. > :00:43.job any more, because the Prime Minister said he had his full

:00:43. > :00:50.support. It's Ian Hislop! That must have been quite a gift for you at

:00:50. > :00:56.the beginning of a new series. it was fabulous. It gave you plenty

:00:56. > :01:03.of material. Yes, it was very obvious he was going to go. And he

:01:03. > :01:11.did. It is incredible, you have done every episode. Yes, that's

:01:11. > :01:16.just fear. Ian is of course also the editor of Private Eye, which is

:01:16. > :01:21.celebrating its 50th anniversary. More on that later on, including

:01:21. > :01:24.what the Prime Minister thinks of it. And also tonight, we have got

:01:24. > :01:30.the star of the internationally acclaimed War Horse, which is about

:01:30. > :01:35.to become a film. Robots used to be the stuff of science fiction, but

:01:35. > :01:40.nowadays, they do everything. But surely there are some things we

:01:40. > :01:50.cannot trust machines to do, like complex surgical procedures? Don't

:01:50. > :01:53.

:01:53. > :02:02.be so sure. Scissors, please. Surgery requires years of training,

:02:02. > :02:09.nerves of steel, and above all, precision. Just as well I chose a

:02:09. > :02:13.career in TV. In fact, even the most experienced and best trained

:02:13. > :02:17.surgeons can make mistakes. If you have an operation over the coming

:02:17. > :02:22.months, it could be that the surgeon never actually lays his or

:02:22. > :02:28.her hands on you. This is a surgical robot, one of several

:02:28. > :02:32.being used in Britain. Supporters of robotic surgery claim that

:02:32. > :02:37.machines like this represent the newest frontier in minimally

:02:37. > :02:43.invasive surgery. Here in Liverpool, this consultant is using it to

:02:43. > :02:48.treat prostate cancer. The prostate is hidden away deep inside the

:02:48. > :02:54.pelvis. One problem with open surgery was bleeding and blood loss.

:02:54. > :02:59.Also, there was a longer term complication, of incontinence.

:02:59. > :03:02.robot is manipulated by a surgeon. The high-definition camera

:03:02. > :03:09.magnifies or of the movements, meaning the surgeon has heightened

:03:09. > :03:14.vision, and can be more precise than ever. What advantages does it

:03:14. > :03:19.give? This is minimal invasive surgery, it allows us to perform

:03:19. > :03:23.complex surgery on patients without making large incisions. It has the

:03:23. > :03:28.effect of reducing the recovery time. Most patients will go home

:03:28. > :03:32.within a day. There is less bleeding and less pain afterwards,

:03:32. > :03:39.and also quicker recovery. They will get back to work and back to

:03:39. > :03:45.going to the gym quicker. Earlier this year, 57-year-old Alan became

:03:45. > :03:49.the first of his patients to undergo such surgery. When did they

:03:49. > :03:53.first mention the possibility of having a robot do it? They said

:03:53. > :04:01.they were getting a new piece of kit and they said that I might be a

:04:01. > :04:09.suitable candidate. I said, go on, I will be your guinea pig.

:04:09. > :04:13.hesitation? No, there was no hesitation. If I had hesitated, I

:04:13. > :04:18.could have lost the opportunity of getting treated earlier. I was told,

:04:18. > :04:23.if I had left it 6-12 months, I would have had major, major

:04:23. > :04:29.problems. Since the operation, everything going well? Everything

:04:29. > :04:34.going well, touch wood. To use the system, not only do you have to be

:04:34. > :04:39.a surgeon, but it takes another 12 months of additional training. But

:04:39. > :04:47.they have very kindly agreed to let me have a go, not on a live patient,

:04:47. > :04:52.of course. Let's see if I can work out how to use this. First, make

:04:52. > :04:58.sure you're comfortable, you could be here for several hours. Rest

:04:58. > :05:05.your forehead in here and look through. With a price tag of �1.6

:05:05. > :05:09.million, the robot is not cheap, but it is effective. Hold on, that

:05:09. > :05:14.is so much easier than I thought it was going to be. After just a few

:05:14. > :05:21.minutes of expert tuition, I'm able to perform some simple procedures.

:05:21. > :05:25.This is the delicate bit, bringing it up slowly. New technologies like

:05:26. > :05:30.this may look fantastic, but with limited funds available to spend on

:05:30. > :05:33.cancer care, not everyone agrees they are the best use of the money.

:05:33. > :05:37.There is an ongoing debate within the medical community about where

:05:37. > :05:41.money should be spent to see the greatest gains for patients. Cancer

:05:41. > :05:45.survival rates are worse in this country for a number of reasons.

:05:46. > :05:50.Perhaps the most important reason we found was that patients in this

:05:50. > :05:55.country are diagnosed later. In the future we need to focus much more

:05:55. > :06:00.on the early diagnosis of cancer. Is it money well spent? People

:06:00. > :06:05.might say, maybe that �1.6 million could be better spent on screening

:06:05. > :06:09.and awareness campaigns. I Farrelly believe that we should invest more

:06:09. > :06:13.in screening, particularly for prostate cancer, which we do not

:06:13. > :06:18.currently do in this country. But if you have not got the equipment

:06:18. > :06:23.to offer the choice of treatment, then screening and finding patients,

:06:23. > :06:27.and then saying, well, we have not got the technology to treat you

:06:28. > :06:32.would be counter-intuitive. While not everyone agrees that robotic

:06:32. > :06:42.surgery is the future, for patients like Alan, it has made a real

:06:42. > :06:45.

:06:45. > :06:50.difference. It has probably saved It is an interesting time, Ian, you

:06:50. > :06:56.have got surgeons using knives and robots doing similar jobs - what

:06:56. > :07:06.are your thoughts on this? I am perfectly happy, providing it is

:07:06. > :07:06.

:07:06. > :07:13.assessed by the other robots! what other ways are robots being

:07:13. > :07:18.used in hospitals, Dr Sarah Jarvis? It is remarkable, it is being used

:07:18. > :07:23.in pharmacies, lots of drugs are dispensed every minute of every day.

:07:23. > :07:27.There's a hospital in Scotland which reckons it has saved �700,000

:07:27. > :07:32.from its drugs bill by using an automated system to dispense drugs.

:07:32. > :07:37.There needs to be back ups, because nobody else can read the barcodes.

:07:37. > :07:44.That's understandable, in dispensing, but what about actual

:07:44. > :07:48.treatment? There is a really exciting one, called the Cyberknife,

:07:48. > :07:52.which has pinpoint accuracy, and you can get to tumours with X-ray

:07:52. > :07:59.beams which you could never tried before. Actually, you probably

:07:59. > :08:09.could not even have operated before. And then there is a bizarre one,

:08:09. > :08:10.

:08:10. > :08:15.the doctor, and you can see his face, but it is a robot. This is

:08:15. > :08:20.ROBODOC. Yes, you do feel somebody is going to jump out and say, April

:08:20. > :08:24.fool. But actually it is more than just a high-tech video camera. They

:08:24. > :08:29.have got stethoscopes, and the doctor 100 miles away can listen to

:08:29. > :08:39.you. What is his bedside manner like? It has been assessed by

:08:39. > :08:40.

:08:40. > :08:45.another robot. This is being used in very rural areas. Is this just

:08:45. > :08:49.expensive technology for its own sake? Some of it has paid for

:08:49. > :08:54.itself already, like the dispenser. But things which we take for

:08:54. > :08:59.granted today, like a telescopic surgery, meaning people get out of

:08:59. > :09:03.hospital quicker, 20 years ago, that was fringe medicine. We were

:09:03. > :09:07.young then. But for some people, that's a long time ago.

:09:07. > :09:13.everybody is going to be replaced by a robot, we thought we had

:09:13. > :09:18.better design one for you. This is the Ian Hisbot 2000. It has got a

:09:18. > :09:28.scandal handle. There is also a sarcasm unit, or affect cash

:09:28. > :09:30.

:09:30. > :09:35.dispenser, for lawyers. It is more effective than me! Redundant again!

:09:35. > :09:45.As we mentioned earlier, Private Eye is celebrating its 50th

:09:45. > :09:46.

:09:46. > :09:50.birthday. Gyles Brandreth now looks back at half-a-century of satire,

:09:50. > :09:55.scandal and solicitors' fees. the beginning of the 1960s, some

:09:55. > :09:59.people were saying we had never had it so good. Other people were

:09:59. > :10:03.saying... The post-war government seemed to have run out of steam.

:10:03. > :10:07.British politicians were being treated with less respect and more

:10:08. > :10:13.scepticism. So, in the decade that would bring Americans their summer

:10:13. > :10:18.of love, we Brits got there first with a summer of satire.

:10:18. > :10:27.Spearheading this very British revolution was Private Eye. It

:10:27. > :10:33.began life as a school magazine at Shrewsbury School, and was the

:10:33. > :10:39.brainchild of four men. Two of the went on to study at Oxford, and it

:10:39. > :10:44.was while they were here that the magazine first went into print. 300

:10:44. > :10:49.copies were distributed to coffee houses around Soho. Now, it costs

:10:49. > :10:54.�1.50, and sells around 200,000 copies every fortnight. The single

:10:54. > :10:59.image on the cover became its trademark. Inside, readers found a

:10:59. > :11:04.mixture of current affairs, cultural reviews, satirical

:11:04. > :11:09.cartoons and now famous but previously unreported scandals.

:11:09. > :11:14.Times have changed since the magazine's first publication, but

:11:14. > :11:19.its offices in Soho have not. offices are in this very CD corner

:11:19. > :11:23.of Soho. But I think that's a healthy thing. Everyone should be

:11:23. > :11:33.reminded of the squalor of the world as they come through the door.

:11:33. > :11:38.Today's editor was reported to be the most sued man in Britain. In

:11:38. > :11:41.the beginning, what was it? In the beginning, I think it was the jokes

:11:41. > :11:46.about institutions which people traditionally have been different

:11:46. > :11:53.about. After that, it was the stories which got people going.

:11:53. > :11:58.then came satire. What did satire mean in those days? It meant a new

:11:58. > :12:04.attitude of questioning, a new attitude of disrespect to a society

:12:04. > :12:10.which at the end of the 1950s in Britain had been pretty deferential.

:12:10. > :12:14.Can you go too far, can you be too inflammatory? You can, I try hard

:12:14. > :12:20.not to become a because then you lose people. You need to be able to

:12:20. > :12:23.justify the joke. Not only has it poked fun at the nation's elite, it

:12:23. > :12:26.was also pioneer in investigative journalism, and soon gained a

:12:26. > :12:32.reputation for running stories that were too controversial for

:12:32. > :12:37.mainstream papers. When you look back, people will point out the

:12:37. > :12:40.Profumo case, the Robert Maxwell saga, they will probably look at

:12:40. > :12:45.the Bristol heart scandal, some of the stuff which looks dull but

:12:45. > :12:50.makes a huge impact on your life, we have been there, banging away.

:12:50. > :12:55.As a consequence of its intrepid reporting, Private Eye has been the

:12:55. > :13:00.recipient of many a libel writ. It was involved on one of the largest

:13:00. > :13:05.libel payouts in British legal history. Sonia Sutcliffe, wife of

:13:05. > :13:09.the Yorkshire Ripper, was awarded �600,000 after the Eye accused her

:13:09. > :13:14.of cashing in on her husband's notoriety. When the Appeal pointed

:13:15. > :13:20.out that this was more than twice the families of the victims had

:13:20. > :13:26.received, the fine was slashed to �60,000. It's part a reform in

:13:26. > :13:32.libel law. Private Eye has been prepared to say things which other

:13:32. > :13:36.people are not prepared to say, funny, but with a serious side as

:13:36. > :13:41.well, exposing the great and good. At times it has been very strong,

:13:41. > :13:45.at other times, you have felt it has been less relevant. The fact

:13:45. > :13:49.that it is funny and satirical has sometimes detracted from which

:13:49. > :13:56.journalism, because you do not know what is actual fact and what is a

:13:56. > :13:59.bit of a joke. Private Eye has now been around for half-a-century,

:13:59. > :14:03.telling the stories which other publications either couldn't or

:14:03. > :14:07.would not. I know from my time in politics that the media can be a

:14:07. > :14:11.cruel mistress. But if satire is indeed telling the truth with a

:14:11. > :14:21.smile your face, then I am all in favour of it. Good grief, what

:14:21. > :14:24.

:14:24. > :14:30.You must have got some real dote on him. He has done it himself!

:14:31. > :14:35.have plenty of scandal. For just a small fee.

:14:35. > :14:40.Twenty-five years the UWE, 50 years for the magazine, but your

:14:40. > :14:46.appointment was not welcomed by all the journalists -- 25 years for you.

:14:46. > :14:52.There were some muttering. I was 26. Looking back I think, good grief,

:14:52. > :14:55.why did they give him the job? Luckily, I survived. And to

:14:55. > :15:01.celebrate the anniversary, you have brought out a couple of books and

:15:01. > :15:08.an exhibition at the V&A in London. You have picked out 50 covers for

:15:08. > :15:18.the exhibition. What is your personal favourite? I am very keen

:15:18. > :15:21.

:15:21. > :15:26.on the "got Hugh" cover. -- Gotcha. It was the Murdoch press at its

:15:26. > :15:31.worst. I thought in my head, for 20 years, one day I would put that

:15:31. > :15:38.word over the cover, over a picture of Murdoch, and all these years

:15:38. > :15:44.later, I thought, I have got you! I am particularly keen on that one.

:15:44. > :15:51.That is on the annual as well. is all over the place! There is a

:15:51. > :15:55.very good history by one of our journalists. For at least 45 years,

:15:56. > :16:01.Private Eye has been looking at Murdoch so that is what you get

:16:01. > :16:07.with us. Repetition and a refusal to get up. But you did get in

:16:07. > :16:12.trouble in 1997 with the Diana cover. Do you regret that? No. I am

:16:12. > :16:18.actually rather proud of that. I did feel that the country had

:16:18. > :16:22.slipped into a grief hysteria. I felt it was important. It is never

:16:22. > :16:26.terribly successful as saying to the general public, I think you are

:16:26. > :16:31.wrong, but from the reaction afterwards and when the hysteria

:16:31. > :16:36.died down, I think what we managed to do is inject a certain note of

:16:36. > :16:43.sanity. It was literally people saying, how upset are you? Not

:16:43. > :16:48.very? String him up! I thought it was non-British. But if you are

:16:48. > :16:53.seen as too soft, you are seen as part of the Establishment. I used

:16:53. > :17:00.to read it as a teenager and BT's a thorn in the side of politicians.

:17:00. > :17:05.It makes people in power ridiculous. It keeps everything in perspective.

:17:05. > :17:09.There are front covers I have seen and thought, oh my God. The main

:17:09. > :17:13.thing is, it is funny and if you can't laugh at yourself, you

:17:13. > :17:18.probably should not do this job. will continue to go from strength

:17:18. > :17:24.to strength. Matt Little looks on Ed Miliband at the end is quite

:17:24. > :17:29.interesting. -- that little look by Ed Miliband. If this was a front

:17:29. > :17:34.cover, what would you put in a speech bubble? If it is Ed Miliband

:17:34. > :17:40.saying, we will go from strength to strength, we have had it! They are

:17:40. > :17:44.so rude, politicians. Cameron saying he thinks it is funny. It

:17:44. > :17:51.makes you want to give up! Nick Clegg likes it, but when he changed

:17:51. > :17:57.his mind? How much worried do you have about stories being truthful?

:17:57. > :18:01.There is no point having stories if people do not think they are true.

:18:02. > :18:11.Everything I print, I believe is true. We have got lots of other

:18:12. > :18:18.papers for that! Fair enough. Ian Hislop has Scholl a light into the

:18:18. > :18:22.lives of famous people for the last 25 years. -- champs Allied. Now,

:18:22. > :18:28.people are doing it in Salford. If you find yourself out in Salford

:18:28. > :18:32.one night this week, you may be in for more than you bargained for. It

:18:32. > :18:37.was Shakespeare who said that all the world is a stage and this week,

:18:37. > :18:43.two artists from Glasgow are out to prove just that. Explain what is

:18:43. > :18:47.going on behind us. We are installing Limelight. It is two

:18:47. > :18:52.Theatre spotlight on existing streetlights and it will create a

:18:52. > :18:56.pool of light. The idea is that it creates impromptu behaviour from

:18:56. > :19:01.passing people. It is about how we think about public space and

:19:01. > :19:06.suggesting a different way of behaving. It has been two different

:19:06. > :19:09.cities and watching how their behaviour is different. A into

:19:09. > :19:16.wanted, people started doing the human pyramids and they did not

:19:16. > :19:20.even know each other -- in the Toronto. For half-an-hour, people

:19:20. > :19:25.play it paper scissors stones. Whoever lost, had to get out of the

:19:25. > :19:30.light. In Botswana, they had a real flair for dance.

:19:30. > :19:36.What is the most outrageous thing anyone has done? Eight I asked his

:19:36. > :19:40.girlfriend to marry him? I hope she said no. -- a man asked his

:19:40. > :19:46.girlfriend to marry him. She said yes and I think he then regretted

:19:46. > :19:49.it. It is not long before the locals are having a go. But with

:19:49. > :19:57.the rain lashing down, the participants are thin on the ground

:19:57. > :20:03.so I tried to get things going. # I met a one-man band...

:20:03. > :20:13.Luckily for us, I have invited some other people along with a bit more

:20:13. > :20:17.

:20:17. > :20:21.Is this art or a pool of light for shorts? I will let you decide. --

:20:21. > :20:29.for show-offs. I think we know the answer for that

:20:29. > :20:34.one! Limelight is that the media City UK in Salford until Wednesday.

:20:34. > :20:43.A few quick questions, the spotlight is on you now. Here is a

:20:43. > :20:50.school photo. Can you point yourself out? Yes! I am there!

:20:50. > :20:55.Correct! I appear to be wearing a lampshade. Speaking of that

:20:55. > :21:02.Lampshade, would you rather have kept that hairstyle or own your own

:21:02. > :21:09.steam train? I would rather have kept the hairstyle. I am very keen

:21:09. > :21:13.on trains. Why? Someone said this man is in love with yesterday. It

:21:13. > :21:17.is a reasonable description. I love steam trains. They have a romance

:21:17. > :21:24.of travel that might commute in a train where there are not enough

:21:24. > :21:30.seats does not really have. Moving on. Kiss and make-up. Robert

:21:30. > :21:38.Maxwell or Piers Morgan? Right. You are trying to make it easy for me.

:21:38. > :21:42.Multimedia magnate who sell off his yacht, or CNN presenter? Maxwell!

:21:42. > :21:50.If you did have one Desert Island book, or would it be about cricket

:21:50. > :21:54.or one of your wife's? It would be one of my wife's brilliant novels.

:21:54. > :21:59.Probably her latest one, which is out next week. You know which side

:21:59. > :22:03.your bread is buttered! The story of a cavalry horse in World War I

:22:03. > :22:07.has fast become one of the theatrical sensations of the decade.

:22:07. > :22:13.We will be meeting the star of the show shortly, but first, Clare

:22:13. > :22:19.Balding finds out about the battle- hardy warhorses.

:22:19. > :22:23.It is no great secret that I love horses. Not only are the big and

:22:23. > :22:27.beautiful and a warm, there is an intrinsic honesty to them.

:22:27. > :22:31.Something that is incredibly comforting. They are also

:22:31. > :22:37.unbelievably brave. No where it was that bravery more evident than in

:22:37. > :22:44.the Great War. Between 1914 and 1918, a total of 8 million horses

:22:44. > :22:50.died on both sides. Michael Morpurgo's book, War Horse, has

:22:50. > :22:54.been turned into a West End play, making the Great Wall real for a

:22:54. > :22:58.new generation, and Steven Spielberg's Bill will bring the

:22:58. > :23:03.moving story of a boy's relationship with a warhorse to win

:23:03. > :23:07.even bigger audience when it opens next year. Richard Van Emden and I

:23:07. > :23:13.are walking in an authentic We creation of a World War I trench

:23:13. > :23:15.system. -- recreation. I asked him about the role of the real war

:23:15. > :23:19.horses in what is generally remembered as the first mechanised

:23:19. > :23:25.war. What was the roar of horses and the

:23:25. > :23:28.First World War? It could not have happened without forces. The horses

:23:28. > :23:33.pulled the wagons, which brought up all of the suppliers and all have

:23:33. > :23:38.the ammunition to the front line. Just over 1 million served on the

:23:38. > :23:44.Western Front. 25% of the horses were killed and the other 75% died

:23:44. > :23:48.of exhaustion and disease. They had a torrid time. They also died of

:23:49. > :23:54.hunger. Like soldiers, horses march on their stomachs. What was there

:23:54. > :23:59.to feed them? There was more food taken over in tonnage and shells

:23:59. > :24:02.but the problem was getting it to where the horses were. There would

:24:02. > :24:06.be horse is nibbling at the ropes and the tunics of the men who came

:24:06. > :24:12.to see them. They were starving. Even in the most horrific

:24:12. > :24:16.conditions, the bonds between the men and the horses was not broken.

:24:16. > :24:21.There were so many cases of men hanging on to their dying horses,

:24:21. > :24:25.stroking them, trying to save those final words, and someone told me

:24:25. > :24:29.that when his horse died, he spent an hour of trying to get the German

:24:29. > :24:36.sniper who killed his source and he spent the rest of the day trying to

:24:36. > :24:46.bury him. What really hooks a sin as readers about War Horse is the

:24:46. > :24:52.

:24:52. > :24:59.drama of the central character -- -- a man I knew all my life's

:24:59. > :25:03.grandfather took his horse to be Great War and they both survived.

:25:03. > :25:08.Warrior and his grandfather a ride on the Western Front in 1914. The

:25:08. > :25:16.story of their survival is as amazing as any fiction. Horses are

:25:16. > :25:20.bald. Imagine a horse carrying you with shells landing and standing

:25:20. > :25:28.still and coping -- horses are bald. Warrior survived everything you

:25:28. > :25:33.could imagine. One guy was standing, smoking, with two horses on his

:25:33. > :25:38.lead, and a shell cut the other horse in half. He was at the Battle

:25:38. > :25:43.of the Somme, at passion Dell, and he got pulled out. Lot of horses

:25:43. > :25:47.got killed at passion Dale. horse came through it all, as

:25:48. > :25:57.detailed in my horse would we have. The men got to love him more and

:25:58. > :25:57.

:25:58. > :26:02.Do you think your horse became a significant not just for your

:26:02. > :26:11.grandfather but for the men around him? He got the nickname, the horse

:26:11. > :26:16.the Germans cannot killed. He was at the warhorse. He lived until

:26:16. > :26:23.1941. There is a lovely picture of my grandfather and him riding along

:26:23. > :26:27.the road. Their combined age was 100 twofold. The story shows that

:26:27. > :26:34.even in the case of the greatest in humanity, man could still maintain

:26:34. > :26:41.dignity and a relationship. Still be kind and show humanity. Perhaps

:26:41. > :26:44.that is the greatest gift that the horse is given a -- has given us.

:26:44. > :26:48.He teaches us that we can be better people.

:26:48. > :26:53.Warrior: The most appropriate name for that horse.

:26:53. > :26:56.You have seen War Horse a couple of times. The puppetry is brilliant.

:26:57. > :27:03.Instead of talking about human suffering, the British do it about

:27:03. > :27:08.an animal... Here is the horse on the National Theatre production of

:27:08. > :27:12.War Horse. It is unbelievable puppetry! Finn Caldwell is in

:27:12. > :27:18.charge of directing all of the puppeteers and the puppets. Where

:27:18. > :27:22.do you start? We start by giving them eight weeks' training so they

:27:22. > :27:27.have all of that period to get used to the moves and then they end up

:27:27. > :27:34.in the show. We have three people operating the puppet. The buyer by

:27:34. > :27:39.the head is in charge of keeping their heads in the air -- the

:27:39. > :27:45.manner by the head. Breathtaking! It must be incredible work for the

:27:45. > :27:49.men inside the course but in the show, somebody rides the horse!

:27:49. > :27:55.The cavalry charge! It is quite extraordinary!

:27:55. > :27:58.LAUGHTER. The man in front is in charge of the lakes and the weight

:27:58. > :28:05.of the horse but he also has the breath, so by bending his knees,

:28:05. > :28:10.you can see it looks like the horse is taking in air. Yes. The guy at

:28:10. > :28:14.the back of the difficult task of making sure that the walk of the

:28:14. > :28:18.horse is all right. So when it moves from walking to trotting to

:28:18. > :28:24.galloping, he is making sure it is right and they spent a long time

:28:24. > :28:30.studying horses. We worked with the King's troop. Howard Ward, the

:28:30. > :28:34.original Sergeant Thunder, how are you? It has been incredibly popular.

:28:34. > :28:38.The a million and a half people have now seen it at the National

:28:38. > :28:45.Theatre and on Broadway. But there is a new exhibition. What can we

:28:45. > :28:53.see? We went this morning. It was fantastic. It is absolutely free.

:28:53. > :28:57.Lots of it is from War Horse. Bits from the film. Also, you can

:28:57. > :29:02.decorate your own of warhorse. that is at the National Army Museum.

:29:02. > :29:09.Yes, free, and it starts on Saturday. Thank you, Sergeant

:29:09. > :29:12.Thunder. That is it. Thank you to everybody, and a caustic Ian Hislop.