:00:19. > :00:26.Hello and welcome to The One Show with Matt Baker. And Alex Jones.
:00:27. > :00:30.Tonight's guest is a family man. He's a father of five, a grandfather
:00:31. > :00:34.of eight. But it was with his brothers and sisters that he first
:00:35. > :00:42.became world famous at the age of... Well, let's let him tell you. .
:00:43. > :00:55.What's your name? Top green Donny. How old are you? Five. And you sing
:00:56. > :01:02.along with your brothers? # We won't hide it, yes, ma'am
:01:03. > :01:05.# We're divided. # Super cute, but he's grown up since
:01:06. > :01:15.then. Donny Osmond! How are you? Good to
:01:16. > :01:22.see you. I actually remember doing that. I remember walking in and
:01:23. > :01:25.there was a couple of hundred people in the studio. I thought that's a
:01:26. > :01:29.lot of people watching me. There were three boxes with lenses, they
:01:30. > :01:33.call them cameras and I had no idea what that meant. Shortly after that
:01:34. > :01:38.appearance I went on tour with my brothers and Andy. It was a
:01:39. > :01:41.Christmas tour. I was introduced. I run on stage, the spotlights
:01:42. > :01:46.blindly. I had no idea how many people were out there. After the
:01:47. > :01:50.song I heard these cheers and whistles. It scared me, I ran
:01:51. > :01:55.offstage!. The next thing I remember is Andy Williams saying, Donny, come
:01:56. > :01:59.back out here, all of this applause is for you. At that moment I said to
:02:00. > :02:03.myself, I've got to do this for the rest of my life. That was the
:02:04. > :02:07.moment. You're going to be telling us all about your upcoming tour
:02:08. > :02:23.later on. We are guessing that, of course, you will sing Puppy Love.
:02:24. > :02:30.# And they call it puppy love. # # And they call it... #
:02:31. > :02:37.That very track, if you stats tonight watching the telly with your
:02:38. > :02:42.dog, then let's see some evidence. Let's see some evidence of puppy
:02:43. > :02:48.love for Donny. You are able to send in pictures of their dog watching
:02:49. > :02:51.the telly? What do they send us? We're going to put this up on the
:02:52. > :02:56.screen. If you have your dog watching the telly at the moment,
:02:57. > :03:04.let's see a shot your dog showing us love for Donny. He doesn't believe
:03:05. > :03:09.it's going to happen. Believe us! I know the British people. They'll do
:03:10. > :03:14.it. Please do it. That's not the only bit of audience interaction
:03:15. > :03:18.tonight. It's not, actually. What are you doing to me, should I be
:03:19. > :03:21.scared? We have a phone and we will be giving you a direct line to
:03:22. > :03:28.potentially five of your fans tonight. Really? It is potentially
:03:29. > :03:32.the first time it will happen tonight. But first, imagine you or a
:03:33. > :03:36.member of your family is suffering from an illness. You would do
:03:37. > :03:40.anything in your power to find a cure. Dr Sal has been on the cure
:03:41. > :03:44.the let trail of one man who is offering false hope and making bogus
:03:45. > :03:50.claims that his products can cure everything from MS to Alzheimer's.
:03:51. > :03:56.All sorts of claims are made about multivitamin drinks. Protein shakes
:03:57. > :04:00.and energy boosters. At one self-styled medical expert has taken
:04:01. > :04:06.those claims to the extreme, promising his products can cure
:04:07. > :04:10.diseases from Alzheimer's to MS. This is Doctor Stephen Ferguson. He
:04:11. > :04:14.claims he can diagnose people'sillnesses by looking at
:04:15. > :04:17.their blood under a microscope, and then a cure them with his special
:04:18. > :04:24.blood cleansing vitamin drinks and protein shakes. He's been doing it
:04:25. > :04:28.for years. Matty Smith is one of his former patients. He agreed to talk
:04:29. > :04:33.to us from Canada, where he now lives, about the very odd health
:04:34. > :04:40.check Mr Ferguson gave him. He was basically looking at a spot of blood
:04:41. > :04:44.under a microscope, and kind of using a chart to attribute certain
:04:45. > :04:48.cells to certain conditions that one might have. I thought it was
:04:49. > :04:54.completely odd, really bizarre. He actually told me that I had the
:04:55. > :05:00.blood sugar level of a diabetic, which I think was a concerning thing
:05:01. > :05:04.to hear. But Matthew isn't and have never been diabetic. Stephen
:05:05. > :05:07.Ferguson is no medical doctor. Two years ago, he was even prosecuted
:05:08. > :05:15.and fined for claiming his products could treat cancer. But we've
:05:16. > :05:22.discovered Stephen Ferguson is still in business and still making bogus
:05:23. > :05:26.medical claims. He hosts what he calls dynamic health awareness days
:05:27. > :05:33.at a London theatre. And I'm going undercover to see for myself. His
:05:34. > :05:40.products are on sale in the four yea, apparently for a bargain price.
:05:41. > :05:56.Once he hits the stage, Stephen Ferguson makes some big claims.
:05:57. > :06:02.A volunteer from the audience is given a free blood test, live on
:06:03. > :06:12.stage. Stephen Ferguson then claims to analyse it and these hot. -- on
:06:13. > :06:17.the spot. Just in case you're wondering,
:06:18. > :06:18.that's utter nonsense. Offstage, Stephen Ferguson makes more
:06:19. > :06:33.startling claims for his products. And I get my chance to quiz him on
:06:34. > :06:58.his results. What to do the doctors say when they
:06:59. > :07:03.go back? Unbelievable. As an A doctor I'm
:07:04. > :07:09.shocked by his claims. But what do the experts think? This doctor leads
:07:10. > :07:17.MS research at Queen Mary University of London. He's agreed to watch our
:07:18. > :07:22.secretly recorded footage. Curing MS, I mean, I'm working in
:07:23. > :07:27.the field for over 20 years now. I think it's staggering and cannot be
:07:28. > :07:31.true. This is somebody who obviously wants to make money out of the
:07:32. > :07:35.clientele. If somebody takes its seriously and some people will do,
:07:36. > :07:40.this is dangerous advice. It's seizing on the vulnerability of
:07:41. > :07:46.people and at the same time eroding their relationship to their NHS
:07:47. > :07:51.doctors. So does Stephen Ferguson stand by
:07:52. > :07:57.his claims? Well, we asked for an interview or a statement, but he
:07:58. > :08:03.said he was far too busy. So when it comes to Stephen Ferguson's
:08:04. > :08:09.unproven, and cures, well, there's only one place I'm pouring this.
:08:10. > :08:13.Dr Sal is with us now. Thanks, I know it's been a speedy trip from
:08:14. > :08:18.you this evening. How did it feel being in that theatre as a doctor
:08:19. > :08:24.yourself, listening to Stephen make these incredibly bold claims?
:08:25. > :08:28.Sitting in the audience there were people there. The reasons.
:08:29. > :08:33.Vulnerable, coming for all sorts of reasons looking for whatever. I was
:08:34. > :08:36.hearing him tell his audience a lot of stuff that was totally medically
:08:37. > :08:41.inaccurate. I'm not going to slam everything because a tiny part of
:08:42. > :08:46.the message was a healthy lifestyle. Diet and exercise. Which of the
:08:47. > :08:52.medical profession would advocate, too. But he added onto that that is
:08:53. > :08:56.to get the full effect you need to buy his powders, potions and super
:08:57. > :09:02.shakes. We didn't know what was inside them. There was no regulation
:09:03. > :09:06.or regulatory body on those packs. People were buying them. That's the
:09:07. > :09:17.worrying thing. The other thing that really worried me was his very
:09:18. > :09:20.negative message towards the health profession and medicines that
:09:21. > :09:23.doctors would prescribe for people with everything from diabetes to
:09:24. > :09:28.high blood pressure. My worry was that someone in the audience might
:09:29. > :09:35.say, right, I'm going to stop taking my medicine because of what Mr
:09:36. > :09:38.Ferguson have said. We already have problems dealing with compliance. He
:09:39. > :09:45.was really feeding that in a negative way against people taking
:09:46. > :09:48.them. That live blood analysis but he did on stage, what did you win
:09:49. > :09:56.the medical profession make of that? That was bowled, wasn't it? Some big
:09:57. > :09:58.claims there. But essentially the Royal College of pathologists and
:09:59. > :10:03.the Department of Health has said that there is no science to it, it
:10:04. > :10:07.is unregulated and it is not a diagnostic tool. He was making
:10:08. > :10:13.diagnosis with a little bit of blood dropped on a microscope. It is what
:10:14. > :10:17.would happen to anybody's blood under the microscope. Exactly, there
:10:18. > :10:23.was nothing there. The experts have said that. Also, the advertising
:10:24. > :10:26.standards agency has issued guidance to live blood practitioners to say
:10:27. > :10:32.you mustn't make false claims or misleading claims about remedies,
:10:33. > :10:38.advice. You can't give any diagnostic advice based on that. We
:10:39. > :10:44.spoke to a haematologist, a doctor that deals with blood, 40 years
:10:45. > :10:51.experience. He said there was no science to it and it is akin to
:10:52. > :10:56.reading tea leaves. Quite offensive because my brother and nephew have
:10:57. > :11:01.MS. I do like alternative medicine, but you don't go extreme on both
:11:02. > :11:06.sides. Absolutely. We are very interested to hear from anyone who
:11:07. > :11:10.has been taking his products. Do contact us in the usual way. Maybe
:11:11. > :11:12.you were the person who had your blood analysed or you bought them
:11:13. > :11:17.powders. We would be very interested to hear what you have today.
:11:18. > :11:21.Meanwhile, we have passed on our dossier of evidence to both the MHRA
:11:22. > :11:28.and Trading Standards. We will you up-to-date. Donny, it's fair to say
:11:29. > :11:38.that back in the 60s, the Osmonds had it all. 60s? Let's save the 70s!
:11:39. > :11:48.I mean, you had the looks. The sound is. The moves. I won dancing with
:11:49. > :11:51.the stars, so I will say that. One of the things you definitely had and
:11:52. > :11:59.still have is fabulous, quality care. Thank you. At my age, I'm just
:12:00. > :12:02.glad to have any! Our resident hairdresser, Michael Douglas, is
:12:03. > :12:06.taking three Donnie's Brothers back to their roots.
:12:07. > :12:11.44 years ago, this musical family left their native United States to
:12:12. > :12:16.conquer the world. They ended up selling around 77 million albums and
:12:17. > :12:22.singles across the globe. In the UK, teenage girls went slightly crazy.
:12:23. > :12:28.# Help me, please... # There was something about the
:12:29. > :12:32.Osmonds which just that "American!" They came from a place where
:12:33. > :12:37.everything was eager and better. That included their hair, it was
:12:38. > :12:46.perfect. -- was bigger and better. Today, I'm getting a visit from
:12:47. > :12:50.three B brothers. Jimmy, Jay and Merrill. -- three of the brothers.
:12:51. > :12:54.They've cut back their locks, but we will be create their hair and style
:12:55. > :12:59.from four decades ago. Appropriately, they began as a
:13:00. > :13:03.barbershop quartet. I joined about 50 years ago. I joined as a
:13:04. > :13:09.three-year-old boy. I fought every kid did what I did because my
:13:10. > :13:13.brothers were doing it. I was seven years old. This was the barbershop
:13:14. > :13:18.era? # We're saying by bike, Blues... #
:13:19. > :13:25.As they got older, the Osmonds decided they need to move with the
:13:26. > :13:29.times. Our dad would cut our hair. I think that was when we revolted.
:13:30. > :13:35.Presumably, somebody drew it first and you must have thought, he looks
:13:36. > :13:39.great! I kind of remember Merrill being the one with the big bushy
:13:40. > :13:47.hair. Jay kind of did the Afro thing. My sister encouraged that.
:13:48. > :13:55.This one at the bottom, this is about 1974. That was my ear right
:13:56. > :14:00.right there. It's so weird, and that is where the reasons why it lasted
:14:01. > :14:04.the long, is because we've never been afraid to try new things.
:14:05. > :14:10.Which, to be honest, is just as well. We're going to take you back
:14:11. > :14:18.in time to the era of the mid-70s. I'm very nervous. Not as nervous as
:14:19. > :14:22.me! The Osmonds' popularity in the 70s came at a time of economic
:14:23. > :14:23.turmoil. Full style guru Sean Chapman this might be the key to
:14:24. > :14:38.their look. People dress up and they go for a
:14:39. > :14:40.fantasy. Stage costume, glitter and glamour, is taken into people's
:14:41. > :14:47.homes and they dressed like that on the street. As the country tightened
:14:48. > :14:59.its belt, lapels and trouser bottoms bloomed. Jimmy, red and loud. That
:15:00. > :15:07.could power a city! Meryl... And Jay, Green is your colour. Would you
:15:08. > :15:17.have won something that bright? Absolutely. There is a costume
:15:18. > :15:28.change at the click of a finger. What do you think? A fantastic job.
:15:29. > :15:34.Next up is the hair. This is you. That is when my hair was brown. I
:15:35. > :15:41.never really thought I was a long-haired hippie. I was thought
:15:42. > :15:46.this was a normal haircut. Was one of you more precious about their
:15:47. > :15:54.hair? You mean, who cared more about their hair? I think Jimmy.
:15:55. > :16:02.How are you feeling about your hair at the moment? It feels kind of
:16:03. > :16:07.nerdy. It has been awhile since The Osmonds work craft like this. Will
:16:08. > :16:25.they recognise themselves? Take a look. Oh, no! Deja vu! That is about
:16:26. > :16:35.right. Can I buy this week? # We are on The One Show, led the
:16:36. > :16:44.reason below. -- the love. I am so glad I wasn't
:16:45. > :16:48.part of that segment! My ant and uncle nearly cancelled their crews
:16:49. > :16:53.because they heard you were coming into night. They are delighted that
:16:54. > :17:01.you are back during the UK in January. It is the story of your
:17:02. > :17:05.life. What can audiences expect? It has been ten years since I did a
:17:06. > :17:11.solo tour of this country. I have been back with Marie. I have been in
:17:12. > :17:17.Vegas for eight years. But this time it is going to be a fun party. I
:17:18. > :17:21.have got 53 years of music to pull from. There is a segment in the show
:17:22. > :17:28.that I have tested in the US and it works. About halfway through, I call
:17:29. > :17:33.it the purple card segment. About 50 to 80 cards are dispersed around the
:17:34. > :17:37.audience. I gather them. They are put on the stage. Halfway through I
:17:38. > :17:43.grabbed these cards not knowing what is on the cards, and for 15 or 20
:17:44. > :17:48.minutes, pure improvisation. Whatever they want to ask, whatever
:17:49. > :17:51.they want to hear... The audience are in control. My band is going
:17:52. > :18:04.crazy learning some any songs right now! It is so fun for me. Every show
:18:05. > :18:09.is slightly different. How much of this is a celebration, and how much
:18:10. > :18:14.does it reflect your life and the trouble is that you have had as a
:18:15. > :18:19.family? Interesting that you should use the word troubles. When you are
:18:20. > :18:22.in show business for that long period of time, particularly coming
:18:23. > :18:27.from a teenybop career, that transition is rocked with trouble,
:18:28. > :18:31.trying to make that job. Not a lot of people have been successful. I
:18:32. > :18:37.ended the show with a song I wrote for this album, my 60th. I did cover
:18:38. > :18:43.songs of songs that influenced me. I wanted an original. I wrote one
:18:44. > :18:48.called survivor. I have survived this business. This is a celebration
:18:49. > :18:53.not just of my music, but the fact I have come through the end of the
:18:54. > :18:56.tunnel. I hope that does not sound egotistical, but it has been a
:18:57. > :19:03.journey, a tough journey, a fun journey, and now an emotive
:19:04. > :19:08.celebration. What were some of the tougher times like with the family?
:19:09. > :19:11.We have this image of the Osmonds having a fantastic time all the time
:19:12. > :19:17.but it can't have been like that all the time. It has been well
:19:18. > :19:24.documented. There were tough times. To be honest, I enjoyed the 70s, the
:19:25. > :19:28.screaming girls. It was the time of my life. I really enjoyed it. The
:19:29. > :19:32.guards protecting me. I was trying to get away from the guides and go
:19:33. > :19:38.to the screaming girls. But that can only last for so long. Any
:19:39. > :19:42.teenybopper, anybody in show business will tell you it is short
:19:43. > :19:46.lived. Making that transition and re-educating the populace as to what
:19:47. > :19:52.you are doing now is critical. It is critical that you embrace the past.
:19:53. > :19:58.I do puppy love and I treated with respect. If you didn't do it, people
:19:59. > :20:04.would be disappointed. Exactly. They want to hear the old hits. That is
:20:05. > :20:09.what brings back the memories. You are kicking off the tour in
:20:10. > :20:14.Manchester. The 21st of January. And from then on it is going to be so
:20:15. > :20:21.much fun. We have a bit of British wildlife now. Numbers of harvest
:20:22. > :20:27.mice in the UK have declined. I am trying to bring it back to the 70s.
:20:28. > :20:34.We are going from Donny Osmond to mice! Thank you very much! It is
:20:35. > :20:39.fair to say that you are more likely to see one in a Beatrix Potter book
:20:40. > :20:41.than in our countryside. Mike Dilger met one couple who have taken it
:20:42. > :20:48.upon themselves to change all of that.
:20:49. > :20:52.Look at this little fellow. When it comes to the most endearing mammal
:20:53. > :21:01.in the UK, surely the harvest mouse is a strong contender? Weighing in
:21:02. > :21:05.at about the same as a 20p coin, these are the smallest rodents in
:21:06. > :21:11.Europe. They are facing a huge problem. Since the 1970s, the UK
:21:12. > :21:16.population of harvest mice has seen the most dramatic and worrying
:21:17. > :21:20.decline. The disappearance of hedgerows and intensive farming
:21:21. > :21:24.practices have caused their habitat to shrink and, in some cases, even
:21:25. > :21:29.vanish. But in one small part of Yorkshire, help is at hand. On the
:21:30. > :21:35.site of an old water treatment works is this nature reserve. John Brooke
:21:36. > :21:38.is one of the trustees. It is astonishing that 15 years ago we
:21:39. > :21:44.would probably have been standing in sewage. No luck. Yes, a tremendous
:21:45. > :21:49.amount of work has been done here since we took over. The volunteers
:21:50. > :21:54.have been brilliant. The Meadows, everything is coming on really well.
:21:55. > :22:00.With its lush grass and reads, it is a perfect habitat for harvest mice.
:22:01. > :22:06.Four years ago, they started a breeding programme. We bred just
:22:07. > :22:12.over 700 harvest mice. We started to release when we got to 100. By last
:22:13. > :22:18.August, they were released onto the reserve. Disaster struck. There are
:22:19. > :22:21.nine severe flood warnings in northern England, including at least
:22:22. > :22:27.five in the York area. The Boxing Day floods were some of the worst
:22:28. > :22:30.ever seen in Britain, and the reserve was badly affected. The
:22:31. > :22:37.local river burst its banks and left devastation in its wake. The newly
:22:38. > :22:42.flourishing harvest mouse population disappeared completely. There was
:22:43. > :22:45.about three foot of water running through here, full of silt and
:22:46. > :22:49.rubbish and everything that comes down the river. It came into the
:22:50. > :22:56.reserve and dumped it. The mice would have no chance. We were
:22:57. > :23:01.devastated. But you can't give up, carry on breeding, carry on
:23:02. > :23:07.releasing, that is our motto. Mice HQ is in the back of John's garden.
:23:08. > :23:12.His wife is the mouse midwife. Welcome to the mouse shed. This is
:23:13. > :23:21.more like a mouse production line. How many tanks have you got? I have
:23:22. > :23:27.13 breeding tanks. Each has a pair. Then we have tanks were the
:23:28. > :23:33.juveniles will wait for release. A female will have two to three
:23:34. > :23:37.litters per year in the wild. That number increases in captivity. The
:23:38. > :23:43.young grow extremely quickly. These are about one-week-old. There are
:23:44. > :23:49.minuscule. Little replicas of their mum and dad. How long before they
:23:50. > :23:55.are weaned? When they get to ten to 12 days old, they are old enough to
:23:56. > :24:01.leave. When old enough and ready for release, Maxine moves them to the
:24:02. > :24:07.reserve, one pen for the boys and one pen for the girls. We have 51
:24:08. > :24:10.females and 40 males. The reason we keep them separate is because we
:24:11. > :24:16.don't want them breeding in the pens. We want them to breed outside.
:24:17. > :24:23.Technique for releasing them? We have some holes at the far end of
:24:24. > :24:28.the pens. We on screw the board and they are Fleig -- free to go as they
:24:29. > :24:34.please. This year they have come up with a new plan if the floods occur
:24:35. > :24:39.again. We are on higher ground. They will spread down there but if the
:24:40. > :24:44.water comes, they will have somewhere to go. Throughout the day,
:24:45. > :24:50.the mice explore their new home, to hopefully start breeding here in the
:24:51. > :24:54.wild. Life can be such a precarious existence. One moment it is all
:24:55. > :24:58.going terribly well, and the next, a flood comes into white everything
:24:59. > :25:06.out. Fortunately, this reserve have their very own Mr and Mrs Noah. They
:25:07. > :25:12.are determined come Hell or high water, the harvest mice are a
:25:13. > :25:20.permanent fixture here. They are super cute. They argued, I
:25:21. > :25:25.have to admit. I like it. We are coming to a key part of the show. We
:25:26. > :25:29.have looked at your social media and we notice you like to ask your fans
:25:30. > :25:37.some Donny trivia. Yes, all the time. Is it true they can win a chat
:25:38. > :25:40.with you on the phone? I do call them, no matter where they are in
:25:41. > :25:50.the world. We are quite excited about doing this. We are going to
:25:51. > :25:54.call this dial Donny. Five hard-core Donny Osmond fans who are watching
:25:55. > :26:01.at home have the number to this hotline. On the line we have got
:26:02. > :26:06.Julie from Staffordshire. Val from Solihull. Tanya from Midlothian.
:26:07. > :26:12.Margaret from Liverpool and Rachel from Kent. You are going to ask them
:26:13. > :26:15.a question and it is the first to bring in who will get to speak to
:26:16. > :26:25.you, and hopefully you will serenade them. OK. Let's hope everybody is
:26:26. > :26:32.ready. Donny, your camera is number four. Once the question. What
:26:33. > :26:36.musical did Ayestaran in over 2000 times back in the 1990s? Phantom Of
:26:37. > :26:44.The Opera or Joseph and his amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat? Now we wait.
:26:45. > :26:51.These five ladies have the number. It is all about fast fingers. So
:26:52. > :26:56.far, nobody has fast fingers. Are they rolling phones?! What was your
:26:57. > :27:08.ritual before you went on stage for this role? I wore a loin cloth so I
:27:09. > :27:20.was working out all the time. Hello? Who is this? It is Julie. How
:27:21. > :27:25.are you, Julie? You have to give me the right answer. It is Joseph and
:27:26. > :27:31.the amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat. There it is. Quick question. I am
:27:32. > :27:41.coming on tour in January, are you coming to the show 's? You bet. How
:27:42. > :27:48.about some backstage tickets? Which show are you coming to? I am coming
:27:49. > :27:53.to Birmingham. I will see you backstage in Birmingham. So stay on
:27:54. > :27:57.the line, Julie, and we will get your information and I will get you
:27:58. > :28:04.backstage passes. Our son is called Joseph. Does he wear a loin cloth
:28:05. > :28:11.all day? Don't make him wear a loin cloth. I'm still in therapy! He
:28:12. > :28:22.couldn't wear it like you wear it! Let's leave that. Would you be able
:28:23. > :28:26.to serenade? What should I sing? It has got to be puppy love because it
:28:27. > :28:43.is why I fell in love with you. # And they call it puppy love...
:28:44. > :28:50.# Oh, I guess they'll never know. # And why I love Julie sell.
:28:51. > :28:58.Thank you. APPLAUSE. That was great. Donny Love
:28:59. > :29:10.continues. This is grace from Chatham watching Donny. And somebody
:29:11. > :29:18.else who loves you. I cannot get over Julie's reaction! There is
:29:19. > :29:24.another one. You doubted whether this would happen. You guys are
:29:25. > :29:33.good. Thank you so much, Donny. APPLAUSE. Donny's tour kicks off in
:29:34. > :29:39.Manchester in January. Tomorrow we are joined by Little Mix and Adam
:29:40. > :29:52.Hills. Try to top this show, Buddy! Have a lovely evening. Night.
:29:53. > :29:57.I'm investigating a worldwide illegal ivory trade that