:00:16. > :00:17.Hello and welcome to the One Show with Matt Baker.
:00:18. > :00:24.Tonight we're meeting the descendants of two sets of 11
:00:25. > :00:37.There they are, they are in the studio now. As rowdy as you would
:00:38. > :00:38.expect. And we'll find out what happened
:00:39. > :00:40.when we reignited the rivalry We'll do that in the company
:00:41. > :00:48.of a writer and actress who is responsible for inventing
:00:49. > :00:50.so many catchphrases and expressions, she's almost
:00:51. > :01:09.created a new language. Knock me sideways on a seesaw! I
:01:10. > :01:17.walked in the name of the money Street -- Manic Street Preachers, do
:01:18. > :01:33.you know what we are creating? I feel very much at home now because
:01:34. > :01:42.Bobby in Stella is played by Alan, who was my neighbour for a long
:01:43. > :01:50.time. This wonderful phrase of, what in the name of. Tel us the story. It
:01:51. > :01:56.started in series four when one of the other writers had one of the
:01:57. > :02:04.lines, what in the name of, and I thought that is so funny, so we
:02:05. > :02:08.expanded it. We were writing the Christmas special one day, I was in
:02:09. > :02:12.a cafe and I saw Michael Ball. I thought that would be good, what in
:02:13. > :02:20.the name of Michael Ball do you think you are doing. Then we had
:02:21. > :02:25.Manic Street Preachers and we want a Welsh related music artist. What in
:02:26. > :02:31.the name of Alex Jones! We will chat more about Stella in a little while.
:02:32. > :02:35.First, multinational companies do a roaring trade in the UK but when it
:02:36. > :02:40.was discovered how little corporation tax rate paid, it caused
:02:41. > :02:45.a huge public outcry. They argue that what they pay is fair so is it
:02:46. > :02:52.OK for hard-pressed small businesses to get in on the act?
:02:53. > :02:57.Multinational companies avoiding UK tax is one subject guaranteed a
:02:58. > :03:05.reaction. I just think it is not on, for goodness sake. If you earn the
:03:06. > :03:08.money, you should pay tax on it. Big business can afford to keep their
:03:09. > :03:15.tax bills as low as is legally possible. They can hire armies of
:03:16. > :03:18.experts to look for loopholes and exploit them, often using
:03:19. > :03:22.complicated offshore arrangements. That's not something that's
:03:23. > :03:28.available to small firms, not until now. This new BBC Two documentary
:03:29. > :03:33.follows one group of local traders as they explore using the same tax
:03:34. > :03:41.loopholes exploited big business. And this is their town in the Brecon
:03:42. > :03:45.Beacons in South Wales. It is fiercely independent, filled with
:03:46. > :03:51.local stores, some run by several generations of the same family, and
:03:52. > :03:56.all unique. But one thing they have in common, they all pay their taxes.
:03:57. > :04:02.UK corporation tax is currently 20% of profits but some multinationals
:04:03. > :04:06.managed to sidestep it completely by basing themselves offshore. This
:04:07. > :04:15.cafe owner, Steve Lewis, is not impressed. My taxation every year is
:04:16. > :04:19.in the 60,000 - 70,000 bracket, and there's zero, and they are turning
:04:20. > :04:26.over eye watering sums. The scale of what is going on is not flat. I read
:04:27. > :04:30.runs to micro-businesses, an ice cream parlour and the local
:04:31. > :04:43.optometrist. She said being able to avoid taxes gives the bigger players
:04:44. > :04:46.unfair advantage. They could pass their savings to consumers who
:04:47. > :04:54.cannot afford stuff like that, so it does seem to be unfair. When the BBC
:04:55. > :05:01.team suggested the traders see for themselves how the big boys do it,
:05:02. > :05:04.they jumped at the chance. The documentary's presenter showed them
:05:05. > :05:12.a tax plan would help them take their profits offshore via Holland
:05:13. > :05:16.and there is a name for it. It is called the Dutch sandwich. It is a
:05:17. > :05:23.tax loophole trick that a lot of companies use to get money out of
:05:24. > :05:27.the EU. We have one of the top tax lawyers telling us the system works,
:05:28. > :05:34.which is crazy because we did it on the back of an envelope. To make
:05:35. > :05:40.their sandwich, the Crickhowell traders would have to set up a Dutch
:05:41. > :05:47.company, moving their profit via the Dutch firm could avoid financial
:05:48. > :05:54.penalties the UK taxman would impose. Michael James says fighting
:05:55. > :06:01.the taxman to get these complex schemes approved is a costly
:06:02. > :06:07.business. The question is what might stop it working? Where you have got
:06:08. > :06:09.these innovative tax schemes, large multinational companies pursue these
:06:10. > :06:16.disputes right to the bitter end. The traders in Crickhowell simply
:06:17. > :06:25.don't have the resources to do that. So what does HMRC think of this? In
:06:26. > :06:28.a statement, they say they enforce tax rules fairly, irrespective of
:06:29. > :06:36.the size and structure of the business, and they say they will
:06:37. > :06:42.look at the root legality of the Crickhowell tax scheme if it is put
:06:43. > :06:46.to them. Will they really go offshore? It seems opinions are
:06:47. > :06:52.divided. We cannot do it because if we do it, who will pay for our
:06:53. > :06:56.roads, hospitals and schools? One of us has got to go offshore to prove
:06:57. > :07:01.the principle, but the pound in it to demonstrate, then say to the
:07:02. > :07:05.taxman I owe you ?1 and it is sitting offshore, come and get it.
:07:06. > :07:11.If it means taking on George Osborne in court, that's what I will do. In
:07:12. > :07:15.the meantime the traders hope the threat of local businesses going
:07:16. > :07:18.offshore will be enough to get the tax loopholes closed once and for
:07:19. > :07:24.all. You can see how far those traders
:07:25. > :07:27.were prepared to take their campaign in The Town That Took On The Taxman,
:07:28. > :07:34.on tomorrow night on BBC Two. Nick is here, we will have a chat in a
:07:35. > :07:41.while. But first Ruth, you know that area, don't you? Yes, we filmed
:07:42. > :07:48.there in series one of Stella, it is a beautiful part of the world. And
:07:49. > :07:55.nice to see such a busy high street. Nick, the Government says they will
:07:56. > :07:59.clamp down on big companies avoiding corporation tax, but what have they
:08:00. > :08:07.done about it so far? They already introduced last April diverted
:08:08. > :08:15.profits tax, a tax of 20% on companies who enter into contrived
:08:16. > :08:19.arrangements to divert profits. It is so new, they don't know how much
:08:20. > :08:26.money it has raised but those figures will be out later in the
:08:27. > :08:31.year. They are predicting it will raise ?355 million per year by 2018.
:08:32. > :08:36.It sounds like a big figure, but the multinational companies it is a drop
:08:37. > :08:39.in the ocean. This is a political sticking plaster, it is the
:08:40. > :08:45.Chancellor wanting to be seen to do something. It is interesting, this
:08:46. > :08:49.corporation tax, because if you want to boost employment you have got to
:08:50. > :08:53.get the company is here that will give out the jobs. The Chancellor
:08:54. > :08:59.wants to be seen to be pro-business, he doesn't want to be seen to be
:09:00. > :09:05.beating multinational companies with a big stick. He has reduced
:09:06. > :09:15.corporation tax from 28% to 20%, which makes the UK the lowest in the
:09:16. > :09:20.GE 20. He will push it down to 18% by 2020 so he is seen to be
:09:21. > :09:25.pro-business, but there are small businesses in the UK who say that
:09:26. > :09:30.they want a level playing field. If they are earning billions of pounds,
:09:31. > :09:37.it is a drop in the ocean to pay more tax, why can't they do that? Is
:09:38. > :09:44.that they are bringing investment into the country, generating jobs.
:09:45. > :09:48.How much do they need? Seriously. They say they are helping the
:09:49. > :09:51.country out. Our football teams are still here, aren't they?
:09:52. > :09:53.Earlier we introduced the Charlesworths and
:09:54. > :09:56.the Coverdales, two families whose rivalry goes back over a century.
:09:57. > :09:59.Here's Joe to explain how it all started and to kick it off
:10:00. > :10:10.At a football stadium in Hull, players are gathering for a match
:10:11. > :10:14.like no other. They are descended from two unusual football teams that
:10:15. > :10:23.once did battle on this spot more than 100 years ago, and today there
:10:24. > :10:25.is a score to settle. In 1914, the Charlesworth brothers placed an
:10:26. > :10:31.advert in the paper challenging any other family to take them on at
:10:32. > :10:41.football. Historian Rick Glanville uncovered their tail. It was a
:10:42. > :10:51.family called the Coverdales who took up the challenge just a few
:10:52. > :10:55.miles away. The Coverdales won 3-0. We thought a rematch was well
:10:56. > :11:02.overdue so we tracked down descendants of both families. Let's
:11:03. > :11:06.hear it for the Charlesworth team! And fresh from their last victory
:11:07. > :11:25.just over 100 years ago, let's hear it for the Coverdales! It seems
:11:26. > :11:32.football is still in the blood. Wonderful for Big Billy there! It is
:11:33. > :11:36.wonderful seeing these families come together again, but if we hark back
:11:37. > :11:43.to the original game over 100 years ago, those innocent days would not
:11:44. > :11:48.last long, would they? No, tragically soon after World War I
:11:49. > :11:55.broke out. They all volunteered, and six of those 22 men died. What must
:11:56. > :11:59.it have done for Mrs Charlesworth and Coverdale to go off to a
:12:00. > :12:10.conflict in which people have very little understanding of what it
:12:11. > :12:16.would entail? This is my grandfather, Frank Charlesworth, he
:12:17. > :12:23.was one of 11 brothers that played the famous football match. This is
:12:24. > :12:28.the troops lined up on Scunthorpe platform, I believe, and there is my
:12:29. > :12:32.grandfather standing on the edge of the platform before they were
:12:33. > :12:38.embarked. What a remarkable photograph. What happened to him? He
:12:39. > :12:44.was gassed in the war which gave him breathing problems later in life but
:12:45. > :12:49.he survived. What do you think your grandfather would have made of this
:12:50. > :12:55.game happening today? I know he would have been proud of it. I can
:12:56. > :13:07.still see his face quite easily. It just makes me think how fantastic it
:13:08. > :13:12.is to do it 100 years on. There it is, and somewhere in that celestial
:13:13. > :13:22.grandstand there will be two sets of 11 brothers looking down, and saying
:13:23. > :13:32.that 100 year wait was worth it. It was a day of joy for both families.
:13:33. > :13:44.Amazing! He would probably have won if he came out of retirement. Seeing
:13:45. > :13:51.you all today, it is history for both sides. I present to you, the
:13:52. > :13:56.Brothers Cup. One of the things I love about the
:13:57. > :14:02.One Show is standing with families as they watch themselves on
:14:03. > :14:07.television. As you can see, we are here with both families. We have
:14:08. > :14:13.brothers, sisters, mothers, fathers, grandparents, all sorts. We saw Ian
:14:14. > :14:18.talking about his grandfather, but your grandfather also played in the
:14:19. > :14:23.original team, didn't he? Yes, Eric is the second left on the back row
:14:24. > :14:28.and he told me about it from a young age. Is it a story that has been
:14:29. > :14:34.passed down through the generations? It was certainly passed to me and we
:14:35. > :14:40.have a photo in the house so my children know about it. So this
:14:41. > :14:43.happened in East Yorkshire but you have come from all over the shop.
:14:44. > :14:51.You didn't even know half your family before this. Met most today,
:14:52. > :14:56.yes! Did you want trials, how did you work out who was good enough to
:14:57. > :15:05.make the team? Very democratic, we just did a bit of rotation. That's
:15:06. > :15:11.why we lost. You are not better then. We want a rematch! Is it going
:15:12. > :15:16.to happen every year? It would be a wonderful thing if it does. Shall we
:15:17. > :15:23.finish on that classic goal? Here is Big Billy.
:15:24. > :15:37.Wonderful stuff. Thank you for making the effort. Lovely to see
:15:38. > :15:43.you. Of course, Ruth used to be known as Nessa. It says a lot that
:15:44. > :15:50.when people see her on the street they now call her Stella instead. I
:15:51. > :15:54.will be setting up a proper maintenance agreement so we know
:15:55. > :15:59.where we stand. Babies don't need a designer gear and I can afford to
:16:00. > :16:07.pay for it. Whatever. You will get what is fair but I'm not a pushover.
:16:08. > :16:21.Has not always been the case. Come on, girls. Say thank you. Thank you.
:16:22. > :16:31.To bring everybody up to speed, Stella is a trainee nurse who lives
:16:32. > :16:37.in a fictional Welsh town of Pontyberry. That is from the
:16:38. > :16:46.brand-new episode where Beyonce has started to demand money. Well done.
:16:47. > :16:52.In that clip, my friend Justin, her daughters were a couple of Beyonce's
:16:53. > :16:57.friends and it makes me really proud when I see them in the background.
:16:58. > :17:04.They are such lovely girls. I digress. It is a bit of a
:17:05. > :17:07.roller-coaster and obviously, that ended on a big cliffhanger, you
:17:08. > :17:13.don't know which way Stella is going to go. The normal thing would be to
:17:14. > :17:23.say, Michael, you are out of here. But she is a natural mum type and
:17:24. > :17:28.cannot resist. She is really a maternal. Yes, and quite realistic
:17:29. > :17:34.and tolerant. I don't think there is anything wrong with that. She takes
:17:35. > :17:39.Beyonce under her wing and looks after her. That unfolds as the
:17:40. > :17:44.series progresses. The way that it has been put together and written is
:17:45. > :17:51.classic you but where does this love of the classic sitcom come from with
:17:52. > :17:56.you? I don't make any excuses, it is not plot driven. Gavin and Stacey
:17:57. > :18:02.was not plot driven. The characters, I love the way people talk. The
:18:03. > :18:07.footballer story is an amazing real-life story and I think people
:18:08. > :18:11.are brilliant, I'm always hearing people saying things are doing
:18:12. > :18:15.things and you just go, people are brilliant. There is so much rubbish
:18:16. > :18:19.in the world that sometimes you just want to hear heart-warming stories.
:18:20. > :18:31.Have you always been that observant? I think so. I probably liked to
:18:32. > :18:40.mimic accents and that is part of the entertainer. People are going to
:18:41. > :18:50.have a shock when I say this but Ruth Jones is actually quite shy.
:18:51. > :18:58.With Stella and Nessa, they are quite big characters, do you write
:18:59. > :19:02.them to be someone quite different? I think so. Certainly, Nessa was
:19:03. > :19:11.quite upfront. You could be as rude as you like and, I hosted a charity
:19:12. > :19:16.event and I was able to tell people to shut up. It was great to be able
:19:17. > :19:21.to do that. Because Stella is a different type of show, comedy
:19:22. > :19:31.drama, she is more real and a bit nearer to what I'm like In Real
:19:32. > :19:36.Life. But yes, Stella wears a wig, I love that because I can hide under
:19:37. > :19:40.it. We've heard you might be taking a break. What will you be focusing
:19:41. > :19:48.on next? You always seem to be ahead of the game. My husband and I have
:19:49. > :19:52.got a production company, we write together, we have two projects on
:19:53. > :20:01.the goal, studio sitcom and comedy drama. We felt if we did not focus
:20:02. > :20:05.properly on them we did not think we could do them justice and could not
:20:06. > :20:10.do them at the same time. So we decided to take a break from it and
:20:11. > :20:13.it is certainly not the end of Stella, we hope to do a Christmas
:20:14. > :20:19.special later in the year. You've got to be realistic, there's no
:20:20. > :20:23.point in just giving a bit of yourself to something. You've got to
:20:24. > :20:30.throw yourself in and be committed to it. It keeps it fresh. But it is
:20:31. > :20:38.back on. You're watching it with a risotto. Yes, if you have not seen
:20:39. > :20:48.it you can catch up. DVDs are also available. We have heard that Ruth
:20:49. > :20:51.is a master when creating characters. Michael Douglas has been
:20:52. > :21:03.to make a few more who would probably fit in. This is ComicCon in
:21:04. > :21:12.central London. Fans come to dress up as their favourite superhero. I
:21:13. > :21:20.am here to sort out their hair. You could call me Lord of the ringlets.
:21:21. > :21:29.Does anybody need they here doing? -- needs their hair doing. Just a
:21:30. > :21:40.short back and sides. I realise this is not yours. Is! I thought it was
:21:41. > :21:46.attached to the hat. It is my hair! Finally, some here that I can work
:21:47. > :21:55.with. Meet Crystal maiden. This is Jenny. I'm going to give her a
:21:56. > :22:02.haircut to match her costume. Did you make this yourself? Yes. What
:22:03. > :22:12.brings you here? Friends. We are all into the same thing, we thought it
:22:13. > :22:17.would be a nice weekend away. Dressing up requires a certain sort
:22:18. > :22:23.of person. What do you do for a living? I'm a graphic designer. I've
:22:24. > :22:27.always been creative. What have you enjoyed about today? I had some
:22:28. > :22:37.photos taken. People are coming up and wanting pictures. Thank you,
:22:38. > :22:41.that is amazing. Did you ever think you would get your hair done by a
:22:42. > :22:49.hobbit? I really did not! It has been a first for us both. Last year,
:22:50. > :22:57.100,000 fans flocked here to spend ?10 million on merchandise,
:22:58. > :23:10.including swords made of foam. This is the big one at the moment. What
:23:11. > :23:21.is this one? These are full contact. It is a lot of fun. Here is someone
:23:22. > :23:29.famous for their phone face. Robert Llewellyn was in red dwarf. Relaxed,
:23:30. > :23:39.gentlemen, you are quite safe. He's been coming to these events for
:23:40. > :23:50.light years. There was a period of time where some of the costumes were
:23:51. > :23:59.clearly home-made. Before it opened they had sold 50,000 tickets. There
:24:00. > :24:09.you go, you look younger and more attractive. That is very sleek. Not
:24:10. > :24:18.everybody is in costume. Jackie has been dragged along by husband and
:24:19. > :24:28.daughter. I might come in costume next time. Who would you come as?
:24:29. > :24:41.Something glamorous, steam punk, an elf. Take a look! Very nice. She's
:24:42. > :24:49.shocked and surprised by that. I am Deadpool. What I learned is
:24:50. > :24:55.sometimes people feel more themselves when they are being
:24:56. > :25:06.someone or something else. But it is back to reality. I wish I had
:25:07. > :25:13.brought a change of clothes. Today we found out why the opinion polls
:25:14. > :25:16.for last year's general election were inaccurate, they were not
:25:17. > :25:23.asking the right people. The last thing we want is for the TV awards
:25:24. > :25:30.to fall into the same trap. Your vote would mean a lot for us.
:25:31. > :25:38.For large parts of Northern Ireland and Scotland, 2015 had a sting in
:25:39. > :25:43.the tail, and the name was Frank. The power of the water pushed the
:25:44. > :25:48.vans this way, leaving utter devastation.
:25:49. > :25:58.These two look as if they do nothing all day. Actually, they don't.
:25:59. > :26:13.Dimbleby has suddenly perked up. In her case, one half of the spine
:26:14. > :26:18.grows faster than the other half. This is lengthened by an external
:26:19. > :26:26.magnet. It can be done in one minute. It is make or break time.
:26:27. > :26:28.Captain Winterbourne is the Army's highest-ranking transgender officer.
:26:29. > :26:41.It was as simple as that. At the back of the church was
:26:42. > :26:46.Frieda, she knew very little about the person who had received her
:26:47. > :26:47.son's heart. The staff had never known a donor family and recipient
:26:48. > :27:08.to meet like this. This is tough. These riders are
:27:09. > :27:17.doing this because they've faced the biggest challenges you could ever
:27:18. > :27:25.imagine in their lives. I've never heard of black fox, it is a really
:27:26. > :27:36.good sighting. It is beautiful. I feel content, I will not let the
:27:37. > :27:47.spirit go. Another morning in North Yorkshire and yet more charity
:27:48. > :28:00.letters arrive. Viewers can use that exact letter. Everybody should print
:28:01. > :28:10.that out. World first, that is a fantastic sculpture. It is an early
:28:11. > :28:18.Christmas present. It is the most wonderful time of the year. All
:28:19. > :28:27.finished, nearly. I've missed the football.
:28:28. > :28:43.We've been busy. If we win, we get that little dog back. You need to do
:28:44. > :28:48.is go to the website, it is great fun, only takes a few minutes, you
:28:49. > :28:54.can choose from your favourite shows and you can vote for us there. The
:28:55. > :28:56.vote closes at noon. Don't forget, Stella is on tonight, 9pm on sky
:28:57. > :29:18.one. We will be back tomorrow. # The low rider
:29:19. > :29:24.is a little higher... #