:00:20. > :00:25.A bit nervous about tonight's guest. Another Hollywood A lister. Will
:00:25. > :00:31.Smith was lovely. Steve Martin was very chatty. Bruce Willis. Not so
:00:31. > :00:36.chatty. Just over here on the left, mate. Anywhere would be great.
:00:36. > :00:41.Thank you. Danny Devito. He's going to be great, isn't he? Talkative,
:00:41. > :00:51.really good-natured. He'll be fine. This is the tip? You call this a
:00:51. > :00:58.
:00:58. > :01:04.tip?! I'll give you a tip - get out Hello. Welcome to the One Show with
:01:04. > :01:10.Alex Jones. And Matt Baker. We know tonight's guest as the star of
:01:10. > :01:15.Romancing the Stone and Ruthless People and Twins. But there's a lot
:01:15. > :01:21.of affection for the role that started it all. Taxi for Danny
:01:21. > :01:27.Devito. I need a cab for the weekend. I'm going to Miami.
:01:27. > :01:31.Come on. No. Let's take it. Hold everything. OK, I got to get tough
:01:31. > :01:37.with you guys. APPLAUSE
:01:37. > :01:42.Please, welcome, Danny Devito. APPLAUSE
:01:42. > :01:50.So great to have you here. It was so much fun doing that show. Taxi -
:01:50. > :01:55.it was a killer. It's back. 30 years after. In 1978 we started. It
:01:55. > :02:01.was just a joy, because the writing was great, the cast - you don't
:02:01. > :02:06.know what you're going to get. I had such a ball. Amazing. Five
:02:06. > :02:08.years. We did 115 shows. It was like a family. It was really
:02:08. > :02:13.terrific. Every time I see something like that, it just gives
:02:13. > :02:17.me a kick. I bet. What does it feel like for you to be here, 30 years
:02:17. > :02:25.later, actually talking about it, because it's coming back to CBS?
:02:25. > :02:32.love it's going to be here in England. It's starting on 6.30 week
:02:32. > :02:39.days. During the week. They're going through the years. When does
:02:40. > :02:44.it start? 7Th or something. You're the one who's here. It's a lot of
:02:44. > :02:49.fun. The humour is really vibrant and cool. Many people will, of
:02:49. > :02:57.course, remember the original, but there will be a whole new audience,
:02:57. > :03:00.like watching a brand new show for them? It's current and a lot of fun.
:03:00. > :03:04.We did character jokes basically. I just yell at them through the whole
:03:04. > :03:09.beginning of the show. Nobody has ever seen me. It's not like I was a
:03:09. > :03:13.movie star or a television star at that time. It was just like Danny,
:03:13. > :03:16.the guy playing the part. For the whole beginning of the show I'm
:03:16. > :03:23.screaming at them and telling them what to do. Bossing them around.
:03:23. > :03:27.Then I come out and look up at them and it was sizic. You had to be
:03:27. > :03:31.there. One person who knew all about you was your mum and you
:03:31. > :03:36.ended up having your mum in one episode. My mum was in two. I
:03:36. > :03:40.didn't really have her in the episode. The producers were looking
:03:40. > :03:44.for somebody. There she is. They were looking for someone to play my
:03:44. > :03:51.mother and they had met her, because she come out to California
:03:51. > :03:56.to hang out and when we started the show. They asked me and I said I'm
:03:56. > :04:02.not going to speak for my mother. My mother is in her 70s. You want
:04:02. > :04:06.to talk to her, call her up. I knew what was going to happen, because
:04:06. > :04:10.my mother is very vocal. They call her up and there was a speaker
:04:10. > :04:16.phone and they said, we are looking for somebody to play Louis's mother.
:04:16. > :04:20.Will you do the part? We won't write a lot of stuff. It won't be a
:04:20. > :04:28.lot. She cut them off and said, "I can do dialogue." She was very
:04:28. > :04:32.feisty. Danny, in honour of taxi, we have some questions for you from
:04:32. > :04:37.taxi drivers in the UK. We'll look at the first one. See what you
:04:37. > :04:47.think of that. Out of all your co- stars who would you refuse to pick
:04:47. > :04:49.
:04:49. > :04:58.up? Not just in taxies. In all the movies? Not just in taxies. I can't.
:04:58. > :05:08.I mean, the list goes on! Who would be least likely to give you a tip?
:05:08. > :05:08.
:05:08. > :05:12.Arnold probably. He's a tight wad! In a moment we'll be asking Danny
:05:12. > :05:15.if the rumours are true that there's going to be a sequel to the
:05:15. > :05:21.film Twins, that he was in, involving triplets. Because of
:05:21. > :05:26.Twins, I don't know if you've noticed, but you did, you are not
:05:27. > :05:36.seeing double or triple. I'm glad I had my glasses. Look at them. Look
:05:37. > :05:39.
:05:39. > :05:46.at the triplets. Twins there. turned out all bald! You look
:05:46. > :05:54.exactly like the day you were born! The studio's rammed with identical
:05:54. > :06:02.twins and the lot. Fantastic. What about the guys down below? Hi, lads.
:06:02. > :06:06.Fantastic. The other one forgot his glasses, but that's OK. Even if he
:06:06. > :06:09.doesn't need them, they put them on him so he looks like part of it.
:06:09. > :06:19.It's lovely to have you all. Really nice.
:06:19. > :06:25.APPLAUSE There was a great line in Taxi,
:06:25. > :06:32.where Christopher Lloyd comes on as Reverend Jim and it's the second
:06:32. > :06:36.season. There was a great line and he was in there and he was very - I
:06:36. > :06:46.don't know - always looped or something. You couldn't understand
:06:46. > :06:46.
:06:46. > :06:49.him. That was his character. One day twins actually were in the show
:06:49. > :06:57.and two really gorgeous girls are in the show and he just looks up at
:06:58. > :07:01.them and his line is, "What happened, did the eggs split in the
:07:01. > :07:08.womb?" If you need any ideas for plots for the sequel, look at this
:07:08. > :07:14.next film. When you are pregnant with triplets they are called A, B
:07:14. > :07:16.and C and when they're born it's one, two and three. We went for the
:07:16. > :07:21.12-week scan thinking we were having twins and it turned out
:07:21. > :07:27.there were three, so we were really, really shocked. It took us quite a
:07:27. > :07:30.while to get our heads around it. You do three bottles and change
:07:30. > :07:35.three nappies and there's barely a gap in between, so it becomes a
:07:35. > :07:38.production line really. They are a continual source of amusement,
:07:38. > :07:41.having the three together. They've worked out that one of them on
:07:41. > :07:47.their own can't open the fridge, but three together can open it.
:07:47. > :07:55.They definitely hunt in a pack and if they're out to cause chaos and
:07:55. > :07:59.make trouble, the three together can do it very, very quickly.
:07:59. > :08:03.he walked through the ward, it all went quiet and he walked me mam and
:08:03. > :08:13.said is there anything wrong? No, we are not having two, we are
:08:13. > :08:13.
:08:13. > :08:18.having three. We were never known as John, Jean and Joseph. It was
:08:18. > :08:23.trips. The only worse thing, with us being two girls, we didn't like
:08:23. > :08:27.being dressed the same, me and Joyce. Not me. Nobody really knew
:08:27. > :08:34.us as triplets as we got older. We all did our own different thing
:08:34. > :08:41.then and met our boyfriends or girlfriends and that. We have
:08:41. > :08:48.switched me and her! We used to go to the toilets in the pub and
:08:48. > :08:52.change clothes and come out. Confuse a few boyfriends! Although
:08:52. > :08:58.we might not see each other day in, day out, we are still close. Yeah.
:08:58. > :09:02.We are there for each other. always have been. I've always
:09:02. > :09:12.thought we've got one brain between the three of us, because where one
:09:12. > :09:13.
:09:13. > :09:18.can't do one, one's good at another and one there. Something else.
:09:18. > :09:23.Having triplets we have always said feels like living in a public
:09:23. > :09:30.swimming baths. The noise is always immense. There is always something
:09:30. > :09:35.going on. We usually play together, because we like... Playing together.
:09:35. > :09:41.Because we feel safe around each other. Sometimes we get in big
:09:41. > :09:48.fights, but always sort it out. normal day is literally military.
:09:48. > :09:58.Uniforms laid out, bags packed. Breakfast decided. Homework diaries
:09:58. > :10:02.signed. Once I was at school and Annabel left and so I - we swapped
:10:02. > :10:09.jumpers, so I went into her class and she went into my class and they
:10:09. > :10:13.didn't find out. The girls are strong-willed and have their own
:10:13. > :10:18.opinions and minds. People they we look the same so we are the same,
:10:18. > :10:21.but it's not true. It's like we're all different. We've always got
:10:21. > :10:26.someone to play with, so you don't have to worry about sleepovers,
:10:26. > :10:30.because you always have one every night. They continue to grow,
:10:30. > :10:37.thrive and just be aborable little girls. I always think we must be
:10:37. > :10:47.doing something right. Don't mention the boyfriends to Gary.
:10:47. > :10:52.
:10:52. > :10:56.please don't. Moving swiftly on! Danny, we have talked about Twins
:10:56. > :11:02.briefly. Will there be a sequel then? We have been talking about it.
:11:02. > :11:09.Actually, before I came to do the Sun sign Boys here in London we
:11:09. > :11:15.were talking about it at Universal. We are trying to come up with the
:11:15. > :11:19.right script and we decided at one point the possibility to call it
:11:19. > :11:25.Triplets and bring Eddie Murphy on. Is that going to happen? We are
:11:25. > :11:31.trying to work it out. It's a possibility. We are trying to have
:11:31. > :11:39.some fun. We like to come up with something that's - so Universe kl
:11:39. > :11:48.Studios are working on -- universAl Studios are working on it.
:11:48. > :11:54.Julius and I'm your twin brother. Obviously! The moment I sat down I
:11:54. > :11:59.thought I was looking into a mirror! We are not identical twins.
:11:59. > :12:09.Oh, no. I wouldn't be too sure pal. I don't lie. I am your brother and
:12:09. > :12:12.
:12:12. > :12:20.you must let me help you get out of here. I am your brother. I love him.
:12:20. > :12:26.He's so much fun. We had a ball. A good time. A giant muscle-bound guy.
:12:26. > :12:32.That scene when he takes his shirt off in the motel room. Please!
:12:32. > :12:40.Incredible. Give me a break. Did you see Pumping Iron, the movie.
:12:41. > :12:47.He's massive. That little song? made that song up. That was my song.
:12:47. > :12:53.# Tonight is your night, bro... # I tell you the reason that happened.
:12:53. > :12:58.It was really funny. You are improvising with that. I did a song
:12:58. > :13:01.that is called Tonight. It's from a musical and I won't sing it on the
:13:01. > :13:07.show, because you'll probably have to buy it, but that was the thing.
:13:07. > :13:14.I started singing the song in the rehearsal. The producer said, no,
:13:14. > :13:21.no don't sing that, because we'll have to pay for it. I made up that
:13:21. > :13:25.song. It's great. Can you believe it. A horn. That means we have
:13:25. > :13:29.another question for you from a cabbie. Danny, you were married to
:13:29. > :13:38.Bette Midler in Ruthless People. Could you cope being married to her
:13:38. > :13:43.in real life? Oh, yeah. I like her, she's really cool. She threw me off
:13:43. > :13:50.a bridge in that movie. She has been a friend for a long time and I
:13:50. > :13:55.think she's very, very talented and the only thing would be who can
:13:55. > :14:00.carry those high notes better. It would be cool. These days, Danny,
:14:00. > :14:06.you don't just act, but produce and direct and do all of that. Of all
:14:06. > :14:10.of them, which do you prefer or the mix? Whatever comes along and gets
:14:10. > :14:15.you going, tickles your fancy. If you're lucky enough to be working,
:14:15. > :14:20.because that's all we want to do as actors, we - most people like to
:14:20. > :14:25.work. If you can direct, if you know how to do it and you can do
:14:25. > :14:29.and done it and try it and people let you do it, there's no reason.
:14:29. > :14:33.It's all what gets you out of bed and makes you feel excited about
:14:33. > :14:40.going to work, so whether it's acting. Like I did the Sunshine
:14:40. > :14:45.Boys for 106 shows at the Savoy. Fantastic. West End play. With
:14:45. > :14:49.Richard Griffiths. I hadn't been on stage for 40 years before that.
:14:49. > :14:54.There I am with my white hair. did you find that, being on the
:14:54. > :14:59.stage? Great. The thing is first of all it's a Neil Simon play. A great
:14:59. > :15:06.play. We had a great director and we had Richard, who is like just
:15:06. > :15:11.born in a trunk, if you can find a trunk big enough I'm only kidding.
:15:11. > :15:21.He's the sweetest man in the world. We had a ball. We are going to do
:15:21. > :15:34.
:15:34. > :15:42.it again in the States in LA. Here is a film by somebody else who
:15:42. > :15:47.knows how to spin a good yarn. Yes, I will see you later.
:15:47. > :15:53.Did we ever have just walked down the street without doing something
:15:54. > :15:58.else at the same time? Yes! The 1970s and look. Nothing electronic.
:15:58. > :16:04.Then came the mobile phone. 80 million of them in this country
:16:04. > :16:09.alone. Walking seems like a waste of time unless you are texting and
:16:09. > :16:15.talking. What is everyone talking about? There has never been so much
:16:15. > :16:21.chatter. Can't it wait? Sorry to interrupt, was it important? If it
:16:21. > :16:27.was my wife. Maybe it is the most important phone call! And you have
:16:27. > :16:32.two! This is for local calls and this is to international calls.
:16:32. > :16:35.admit it, the mobile phone can annoyed the living daylights out of
:16:35. > :16:40.you have but one leading anthropologist describes it as the
:16:40. > :16:47.new garden fence. The place for a chat. Having a good chat over the
:16:47. > :16:51.garden fence does us all good. It is essential to have these little
:16:51. > :16:57.conservation has -- conversations. It helps us get to know each other.
:16:57. > :17:02.It helps us understand each other. That makes life move along smoothly.
:17:02. > :17:06.It is not the same. The quality of communication must have diminished
:17:06. > :17:12.with these electronic devices. Research says the complete opposite.
:17:12. > :17:21.Research tells us it is improving people's communication. But in the
:17:21. > :17:25.past, gossip has been regarded as the death of good, efficient and
:17:25. > :17:31.even dangerous. In the First World War, government posters claim that
:17:31. > :17:36.careless talk costs lives. Dylan Thomas did not believe in
:17:36. > :17:40.keeping mum. He said that there would not be any careless talk if
:17:40. > :17:45.only people were taught to make intelligent conversation. Dylan
:17:45. > :17:51.Thomas of course was contrasting everyday chit-chat with the wisdom,
:17:51. > :17:55.wit and elegance of the golden age of conversation. He meant the great
:17:55. > :18:01.Dr Johnson, but would we have enjoyed conversing with him in the
:18:01. > :18:05.coffee house? Surprisingly, some say no. The point about
:18:05. > :18:12.conversation, kit comes from the Latin meaning to change sides -- it
:18:12. > :18:18.comes. It is about the exchange, the momentum. We might be delighted
:18:18. > :18:21.to have Dr Johnson as a one-man Wikipedia, but maybe in the 18th
:18:21. > :18:25.century that was exactly what you wanted because you did not have
:18:25. > :18:30.television and Wikipedia, but I suspect you would also struggle to
:18:30. > :18:34.get a word in edgeways. Conversation that is not. Dr
:18:34. > :18:40.Johnson did not even want people to question him! He would be no --
:18:40. > :18:46.most affronted by your approaches to me today. If that was not his
:18:46. > :18:50.style, laughing, chatter, it is something to celebrate. Not mobile
:18:50. > :18:54.the chat but real life. Great conversation is about finding
:18:54. > :18:59.common ground with another person. We have so many ways of keeping in
:18:59. > :19:02.touch and communicating that actually, face-to-face talk, where
:19:02. > :19:07.you are exchanging a smile and noticing when attention is
:19:07. > :19:12.wondering, is becoming quite a precious commodity. Many have
:19:12. > :19:15.predicted that conversation is doomed. The Victorians thought the
:19:16. > :19:20.new electric light would lead to more reading endless talking.
:19:20. > :19:24.George Orwell thought radio would kill it. Our parents brought the
:19:24. > :19:30.villain would be an addiction to television. The mobile is the
:19:30. > :19:34.latest culprit. It could be the only major damage inflicted on
:19:34. > :19:39.modern communication is financial. The average household mobile phone
:19:39. > :19:45.bill now exceeds �1,000 a year. At that price, talks certainly isn't
:19:45. > :19:54.cheap. No, it is not. Can you believe
:19:54. > :20:01.this? Danny used to work in a hair salon. Is that where you learnt the
:20:01. > :20:08.art of conversation? No, it is where I learnt how to flirt. My
:20:08. > :20:13.sister had a beauty parlour in New Jersey, where I am from, and I was
:20:13. > :20:17.18 and I was just out of high school, 17, 18, and she said she
:20:17. > :20:22.would give me a job if I went to the discourse. It wasn't like
:20:22. > :20:28.something I really wanted to do but I went and I dragged my feet all
:20:28. > :20:35.the way. All summer she told me about it. She bought me the whole
:20:35. > :20:42.thing, the kit. I went. I finally went to the school and walked up
:20:42. > :20:52.the stairs, opened the doors, I was not very happy about it, I looked
:20:52. > :20:52.
:20:52. > :20:56.in and there were 40 girls my age. It was fantastic! It was the best
:20:56. > :21:01.semester I ever spent! I read somewhere that you can't help but
:21:01. > :21:07.look at people and tell them if their hair works. Is that true?
:21:07. > :21:13.do not do that. All right! I am attempting to look a little bit
:21:13. > :21:22.like cute in their hair department. You are done for. You on your way
:21:22. > :21:29.out. Look at those three guys, that is your future, it right there. My
:21:29. > :21:35.gosh. They look like planets. have got it so wrong. I am regarded
:21:35. > :21:39.as the British Bruce Willis. talk more than him! Anyway, picking
:21:39. > :21:47.up on yours film... Research tells us that the British talk only about
:21:47. > :21:57.the weather. The Americans are supposed to talk Principe about
:21:57. > :21:57.
:21:57. > :22:04.sport and politics when they meet. A do not speak about sports.
:22:04. > :22:09.mainly about sport and politics. Mostly men. Are m in London. What
:22:09. > :22:13.shall I talk about the weather? don't need to talk about the
:22:13. > :22:19.weather in Los Angeles because it is always good. In Asia and the
:22:19. > :22:23.Middle East, they talk about family. In the forest, they make a
:22:23. > :22:28.conversation to discover people's pecking order, where you in the
:22:28. > :22:38.hierarchy. What is always to be universally is you never talk about
:22:38. > :22:41.
:22:41. > :22:47.money. -- Pat -- what is always taboo. What is the etiquette when
:22:47. > :22:52.it comes to taxes? Not what I do, I get into it and I close the window.
:22:52. > :22:58.That is because a live in London and I know on public transport, you
:22:58. > :23:02.keep silent. When I first came to London, my first time, I was on my
:23:02. > :23:09.way to work on the Tube and I sat next to somebody and I said, good
:23:09. > :23:12.morning, and they got up and moved. That was it! It London, we do not
:23:13. > :23:17.talk to one another. But cab drivers do expected to make
:23:17. > :23:26.conversations. I first moved to New York after a did the thing with my
:23:26. > :23:30.sister and I was 20, and I started studying acting. It was like that.
:23:30. > :23:37.You would go on a bus and nobody would talk to each other. You never
:23:37. > :23:44.know what is going to happen. In a big city, you know. That is the
:23:44. > :23:51.thing. Now people are listening to their headphones on the subway.
:23:51. > :24:01.Thank goodness. I got mine! carry on. I have lost interest in
:24:01. > :24:02.
:24:02. > :24:07.this conversation. Shall I tweet you? Danny DeVito! You have not
:24:07. > :24:12.been on the show before but we switch topics quite often on the
:24:12. > :24:15.show. We could switch to Boy Scouts and Hitler's Germany. It could be
:24:15. > :24:21.anything. Tonight we have both of those
:24:21. > :24:28.subjects, in oneself. Boy Scouts? Hitler? Really!
:24:28. > :24:31.This pastime was once considered a threat to Britain. In 1937, a
:24:31. > :24:36.combination of the Boy Scout movement and bicycle tours
:24:36. > :24:41.attracted the attention of the security services and cast serious
:24:41. > :24:46.suspicions over the movement's founder, Lord Robert Baden Powell.
:24:46. > :24:51.As chief scout, he turned scouting into a worldwide movement and with
:24:51. > :24:55.war in Europe looming, he wanted to use that popularity to read out the
:24:55. > :24:59.next generation of Germans. He thought bringing the British and
:24:59. > :25:06.German youth movements together could build relations between the
:25:06. > :25:13.two countries. There was just one problem. By that time, all German
:25:13. > :25:19.youth movements had been absorbed into just one. The Hitler Youth.
:25:19. > :25:23.MI5 were monitoring Lord Baden Powell, especially a memo he wrote
:25:23. > :25:27.complementing the German ambassador and informing him that the Scouts
:25:27. > :25:32.were keen to forge closer links with the Hitler Youth, and that is
:25:32. > :25:39.exactly what they did. Say it's all Scout troops hosted visits from
:25:39. > :25:44.groups of Hitler Youth -- several Scout troops. One movement from
:25:44. > :25:48.here went all the way to Germany. They were very excited. Some of
:25:48. > :25:53.them had never been further than Birmingham's are going to Germany
:25:53. > :25:58.must have been massively exciting. They saw the sides but also went to
:25:58. > :26:04.a Hitler Youth camp. In September, MI5 war on their guard as the
:26:04. > :26:08.Hitler Youth completed a group to Padworth. The village took them to
:26:08. > :26:13.their hearts. They were taken to be capped refectory of Bournville, to
:26:13. > :26:18.William Shakespeare's house at Stratford upon-Avon -- Cadbury's
:26:18. > :26:21.factory. They bought their own bicycles with them and they cycled
:26:21. > :26:28.from Grimsby and whilst they were here, they were wandering around
:26:28. > :26:32.and looking at the sites. But was sight seen all they were doing? MI5
:26:32. > :26:36.noticed as a special article in a European newspaper that instructed
:26:36. > :26:40.German cyclists travelling abroad to make detailed observations of
:26:40. > :26:45.the areas they visited, paying special attention to bridges. With
:26:45. > :26:52.Hitler Youth groups cycling around Britain, MI5 suspected they were
:26:52. > :26:57.spies. You are a reconnaissance experts. If I am a 1937 German
:26:58. > :27:01.cyclist, what can I take home? you are going to be launching an
:27:01. > :27:05.invasion of Britain, you need to control the bridges so people on
:27:05. > :27:10.the ground would be a good way of finding out. The German
:27:10. > :27:14.reconnaissance plan was to fly over the bridge. That would attract
:27:14. > :27:18.immediate notice. A group of boys cyclists would arouse less
:27:18. > :27:23.suspicion. German teenage cyclists on the Hitler Youth would not have
:27:23. > :27:29.had a military view of the ground. They would have been more
:27:29. > :27:33.interested in the local girls, if we are honest! By MI5 were taking
:27:33. > :27:38.no chances. Some people even speculated that Lord Baden Powell
:27:38. > :27:43.might be a fascist sympathiser. Today Scout Movement said those
:27:43. > :27:50.people misunderstood the chief scout's motives are. Baden Powell
:27:50. > :27:54.committed himself and the Scout movement to furthering world peace.
:27:54. > :27:58.But the Hitler Youth are unlikely bedfellows? Perhaps he was naive
:27:58. > :28:02.but one I would hold as well, that young people who camped together
:28:02. > :28:06.and share food together are less likely when they grew up to want to
:28:06. > :28:10.shoot each other. But the British Government was taking no chances.
:28:10. > :28:14.When Baden Powell revealed he had been invited to Germany to meet
:28:14. > :28:20.Hitler himself, he was taught very clearly not to go. Of course the
:28:20. > :28:24.outbreak of the Second World War put a stop to any more exchange
:28:24. > :28:34.visits and fears over spy-cyclists were replaced by fears that were
:28:34. > :28:34.
:28:34. > :28:37.much more real. Spyclists! What a turn-up! We
:28:37. > :28:45.apologise for putting you on the same show.
:28:45. > :28:50.We have time for one more question. Here we go. Danny, you have Alex
:28:50. > :28:57.Jones, a great dancer sitting next to you. Any jobs are busting some
:28:58. > :29:07.moves with her? I would not go that far! -- any chance of boosting some
:29:08. > :29:08.
:29:08. > :29:13.moves? I do not dance. Bob bins?! Don't Leave Me Hanging? -- have no?
:29:13. > :29:19.Shall we do it will? No, I do not dance. But I will have a
:29:19. > :29:25.conversation with you. OK, just chat away. That is all we have got