:00:19. > :00:24.Hello and welcome to The One Show with Matt Baker. And Alex Jones.
:00:24. > :00:28.Our guest is a world famous artist who started out as the bad girl at
:00:28. > :00:32.school. But ended up top of the class. So much so that the Prime
:00:32. > :00:40.Minister says he wants her to paint him. It is Tracey Emin.
:00:40. > :00:47.Where would you start with the Prime Minister? How would you
:00:47. > :00:52.painting? Well, Yves Klein would have painted the Prime Minister a
:00:52. > :00:55.blue and naked. That could be tricky! I would probably do some
:00:55. > :01:00.drawings of him first. The first time I met the Prime Minister he
:01:00. > :01:05.did tell me that himself. Because I do lots of sowing, which is really
:01:05. > :01:08.painstaking, slow and laborious, I said that if he wants to spend six
:01:08. > :01:15.funds in my studio while I do and embroidery of her and then fine,
:01:15. > :01:20.but I expect he has other things to do! -- of him. Just a few days to
:01:20. > :01:27.go until the Olympics, 99. You have design some of the posters. This is
:01:27. > :01:30.for the Paralympics. That is just beautiful. That is a very good
:01:30. > :01:36.message. Determination and inspiration were motto words for
:01:36. > :01:40.the Paralympics. What I am really thrilled about is that my poster is
:01:40. > :01:44.the designated poster for the Paralympics. That is what the
:01:44. > :01:49.Paralympic bought toes. Any literature, anything historic, it
:01:49. > :01:56.will be my poster. I'm really thrilled with that. It is great.
:01:56. > :02:00.APPLAUSE. Tracey has also taken part to a
:02:00. > :02:04.whole new level because she was the driving force behind an amazing new
:02:04. > :02:08.concept of a fleet of Olympic aeroplanes. We will be chatting to
:02:08. > :02:12.Tracey about that project later. They are just beautiful. For any
:02:12. > :02:17.youngster growing up with an adult with a drink or drug problem, life
:02:17. > :02:20.can be pretty tough. According to a new report, perhaps as many as 3.5
:02:20. > :02:26.million children live in a household affected by addiction.
:02:26. > :02:34.Hayley Cutts meets one remarkable family.
:02:34. > :02:38.Most of the time, my mum and Charley are arguing. It used to
:02:38. > :02:43.make me so sad that I would sit down somewhere and make me start
:02:43. > :02:47.crying. There were times when I have been chased around the house
:02:47. > :02:53.with a claw hammer because my mum had just flown into a fury. We got
:02:53. > :02:58.into an argument and did went too far. It all just went to hell,
:02:58. > :03:02.really. This is the reality for children growing up with an
:03:02. > :03:06.alcoholic parent. A quarter of all children in the UK now live with
:03:06. > :03:10.the family member suffering from an alcohol or drug problem. This
:03:10. > :03:16.family have agreed to tell me their story. For more than a decade,
:03:17. > :03:21.Charley, Daniel, Alan and Ruby, have spent their time living with
:03:21. > :03:25.an alcoholic mother. One of the biggest things in your child that
:03:25. > :03:35.is having a parent around. So that you can talk to them about things.
:03:35. > :03:36.
:03:36. > :03:39.At the time of your childhood, your parent is your best friend. I was
:03:39. > :03:43.tidying up, I was cooking, I was cleaning. I was just doing
:03:43. > :03:46.everything. My little sister actually started calling me mum
:03:46. > :03:56.because I had been looking after her for so long. That was pretty
:03:56. > :03:57.
:03:57. > :04:00.scary. How old were you? 13, 14. mum started going on, I would
:04:01. > :04:05.aggravate her more so that she went after me instead of the kids.
:04:05. > :04:13.put yourself in a line of fire to protect them? Yes. I have to
:04:13. > :04:19.because they were too little to take it. A charity has been helping
:04:20. > :04:23.his family to cope with their problems. Jordan of addicts are
:04:23. > :04:27.seven times more likely to become addicts themselves, so the only way
:04:27. > :04:31.to prevent this is to intervene early and offer support for the
:04:32. > :04:37.whole family. Charley realised that he had to fill the gap left by his
:04:37. > :04:43.mother's drinking. Servitor, parental role alongside his sister.
:04:43. > :04:49.It was the most horrible part of my life. -- he took on the parental
:04:49. > :04:53.role. It is difficult. Do you worry about following in your mother's
:04:53. > :04:58.footsteps? Honestly, I can't say I do because I have seen how my life
:04:58. > :05:02.is affected by it. If I was to have children, I don't think I could do
:05:02. > :05:08.that to them but I am not 100% sure, because all of the problems can be
:05:08. > :05:15.very overpowering sometimes, and I just feel like getting out of my
:05:15. > :05:23.face on alcohol or drugs or whatever I can get hold of, just to
:05:23. > :05:26.become not myself. After a year of being sober, mum Emma realises how
:05:26. > :05:30.her drinking affected the lives of her children. I don't think I can
:05:30. > :05:36.say that I was a mother. I wanted to be but that was blind doubt by
:05:36. > :05:40.the addiction which had taken over everything. -- blanked out. I found
:05:40. > :05:43.it difficult to spend time with them even. Sometimes I would be
:05:44. > :05:47.extremely aggressive because I was angry at drinking and being out of
:05:47. > :05:51.control and not being able to do what I felt I needed to do for them.
:05:51. > :05:55.Sometimes they would come home and I was depressed and they would have
:05:55. > :06:00.me crying. I think fear was a huge factor in their lives. Looking back
:06:00. > :06:04.on that, that is not a good thing to put on your children. Obviously
:06:04. > :06:08.I have said to them that I cannot change what happened at those times,
:06:09. > :06:14.but I can show them that I have changed. Having to be apparent for
:06:14. > :06:20.so long, I now feel lost because I don't have to be. -- to be the
:06:20. > :06:24.parent. Now where do I belong? I have no role in life. So it is not
:06:24. > :06:33.over for you? I do not think it will ever be over. I think this
:06:33. > :06:37.will affect the rest of my life, well, forever. Wonderfully strong.
:06:37. > :06:41.Three superb young people. Dr Jarvis is here. Charley was
:06:41. > :06:44.speaking about resisting the temptation of using alcohol to blot
:06:44. > :06:48.out his problems. Is this a recurring problem in children of
:06:48. > :06:52.addicts? Tragically it is. You would imagine that if you have gone
:06:52. > :06:56.through it yourself, the last thing you would want is to put your
:06:56. > :07:00.children through red. The problem is that this is about the family.
:07:00. > :07:03.Alcohol and drugs always affect the whole family, not the individual.
:07:03. > :07:08.These children have learned that that is how you cope. Even if you
:07:08. > :07:11.have not got an alcoholic parent, it is important to talk to children
:07:12. > :07:15.about keeping away from alcohol until they are 16, to understand
:07:15. > :07:18.they do not have to drink and give in to peer pressure. The Charley
:07:18. > :07:24.the important thing is getting support as the family. He needs to
:07:24. > :07:34.know how to be apparent and he has never learned. Emma is doing really
:07:34. > :07:34.
:07:34. > :07:39.well, so before you. Do addicts often relapse? -- sober for a year.
:07:39. > :07:44.Tragically it happens all the time. Every month that Emma is sober, the
:07:44. > :07:48.better chance she has got. It is all down to family and seeking help
:07:48. > :07:53.early. If things are going wrong, make sure you speak to your GP in
:07:53. > :07:58.the first instance, or somebody in authority who can help you.
:07:58. > :08:06.really do wish the family all the best. Tracey, you work with the
:08:06. > :08:12.NSPCC. You have seen how first hand young people can turn their lives
:08:12. > :08:15.around. Yes, when you come from a dysfunctional family, you need a
:08:15. > :08:18.lot of outside support. It cannot just work within because there are
:08:18. > :08:23.no guidelines and there is nobody to show you the way. Like we have
:08:23. > :08:27.been saying. The stuff I have seen with the NSPCC is terrific, and it
:08:27. > :08:32.would break your heart that it is happening in this country. It is
:08:32. > :08:36.not happening in a faraway place, it is right here, round the corner.
:08:36. > :08:43.Talking about the NSPCC, I have just donated my favourite little
:08:43. > :08:49.bird, which is an animated work, and you can go to the website. They
:08:49. > :08:54.are �50 each and every single penny goes to the NSPCC. Brilliant.
:08:54. > :08:59.last bid to say that and I have said it! -- they asked me to say
:09:00. > :09:04.that. Your father was an alcoholic before you were born. Yes, really
:09:04. > :09:09.heavy. Two bottles of whisky every day. He still managed to walk in a
:09:10. > :09:16.straight line and function, I don't know how. Then when he found out
:09:16. > :09:20.that my mother was pregnant with us, we are twins, he went and was cured
:09:20. > :09:27.completely. He stopped drinking in 1963 and I never saw him take a
:09:27. > :09:30.drink. He talked to you about it? Yes, constantly. He knew what the
:09:30. > :09:35.guidelines were, and he would talk to me from a very good moral
:09:35. > :09:40.perspective. The fact that he had been on the other side, I listened
:09:40. > :09:44.to him. That is key, like you were saying. Communication is so
:09:44. > :09:48.important. It is all about the family. Tracey, we could not have
:09:48. > :09:56.you here without showing you some dazzling artwork. I am sure this is
:09:56. > :10:00.not what you might expect. The submarine is a deadly weapon of
:10:00. > :10:05.warfare and now familiar to us all. But 100 years ago it was an
:10:05. > :10:11.entirely new and frightening threat. German U-boats were deployed for
:10:11. > :10:14.the first time in World War One. They proved deadly, especially in
:10:14. > :10:19.attacking civilian ships carrying food and supplies from North
:10:19. > :10:26.America to Britain. Several ships a day were being lost, including the
:10:26. > :10:31.Lusitania, torpedoed off the coast of Ireland in May, 1915, with the
:10:31. > :10:38.last of 1200 lives. -- the loss. There may be needed to counter the
:10:38. > :10:42.U-boat menace. An extraordinary solution came from an unlikely
:10:42. > :10:49.source, the world of art. Dr Samuel is an expert in the use of military
:10:49. > :10:52.camouflage and deception. I have always had a long-standing interest
:10:52. > :10:56.in appearances. Initially the idea was to conceal ships, by making
:10:56. > :11:01.them look the same as their background. Obviously, ships are
:11:01. > :11:05.rather large and this turned out to be a non-starter. At that stage,
:11:05. > :11:09.inspiration struck. They decided that rather than trying to conceal
:11:09. > :11:14.things, they would confuse the enemy instead. Ships were painted
:11:14. > :11:20.in bold, geometric designs, blocks of colour, stripes and strong
:11:20. > :11:23.shapes. They were designed not to hide and disguise the vessels, but
:11:23. > :11:26.confuse and disorientate U-boat commanders. The answer came from a
:11:26. > :11:34.chap called Norman Wilkinson, and he was an artist with naval
:11:34. > :11:38.experience. He called it dazzle camouflage, the idea being to paint
:11:38. > :11:41.high contrast patterns on the sides of ships. The theory behind dazzle
:11:41. > :11:51.ships was that submarine captain's hat to be close to their prey to a
:11:51. > :11:53.
:11:53. > :11:58.tap. This -- captains had to be close to their prey to attack. I
:11:58. > :12:02.have come to the National Submarine Museum to meet a former submarine
:12:02. > :12:05.captain. The captain wants to keep the periscope exposure down to a
:12:05. > :12:10.minimum so we have to think carefully about what he wants to
:12:10. > :12:15.get out of a Paris go before we use it. At this stage it is very tense.
:12:15. > :12:19.He will not be very far away, so he has to be very careful he is not
:12:19. > :12:22.detected himself. When the periscope goes up, the water has to
:12:23. > :12:27.drain away so that you can see the target, which takes a couple of
:12:27. > :12:32.seconds. U-boat commanders had six seconds to find their target and
:12:32. > :12:36.make the decision to fire. The main aim was to confuse the commander
:12:36. > :12:40.with an overload of information. In that brief moment, if you could
:12:40. > :12:44.give lots of information, that would confuse him. And then when he
:12:44. > :12:49.went to fire his torpedo, he would be in the wrong place. Bedazzle
:12:49. > :12:54.technique took several forms. In this design, the shape of the black
:12:54. > :13:04.patrol boat with an bow wave suggesting speed has been painted
:13:04. > :13:06.
:13:06. > :13:10.on to the stern of a larger vessel going in the opposite direction.
:13:10. > :13:15.The sloping smokestacks here suggest it is travelling right to
:13:15. > :13:19.left when it is travelling in the opposite direction. Dazzle became
:13:19. > :13:26.widely used by the end of the First World War and even into the Second
:13:26. > :13:31.World War. The advent of radar made it far less effective. Did it work?
:13:31. > :13:35.Well... The evidence is equivocal. It is not easy to say from the
:13:35. > :13:40.figures we have that it did actually work but it did not seem
:13:40. > :13:43.to make things worse. People felt safe on the ships and the rumours
:13:43. > :13:49.were that its stock to being torpedoed, so it was a moral
:13:49. > :13:53.victory at least. -- it stopped you being torpedoed. Modern technology
:13:53. > :13:58.makes dazzle obsolete but I think it is exciting. It is not quite
:13:58. > :14:08.magic, but it is a brilliant trick. Fascinating stuff. You were glued
:14:08. > :14:11.to that, or Leo. I want to go to Stockport now and go to that museum.
:14:11. > :14:17.It bedazzled me and it was really clever and I am sure that it worked.
:14:17. > :14:22.Just watching it, we were confused. If you have got six seconds in a
:14:22. > :14:28.periscope, you do not know what is going on. Moving seamlessly from
:14:28. > :14:34.painted boats to painted aeroplanes, as part of London 2012? That was a
:14:34. > :14:37.very good link! You said it yourself! You have been mentoring a
:14:37. > :14:46.young artist called Pascal. You have moved into designing
:14:46. > :14:51.aeroplanes. What have you been It was a competition that British
:14:51. > :14:55.Airways did to celebrate the Olympics. Which myself, and Heston
:14:55. > :15:02.Blumenthal were to mentor for British Airways. My job was to
:15:02. > :15:09.mentor an artist to design a plane. I wanted to turn the plane into
:15:09. > :15:14.something else. Pascal Anson's design was fantastic, it is a bird.
:15:14. > :15:19.Sometimes the simlest things are the best. It worked. I was so
:15:19. > :15:24.chuffed when I saw it at the unveiling a few weeks ago.
:15:24. > :15:29.And it was not just a bird, but a dove, the symbol of the Olympics.
:15:29. > :15:34.This is remarkable footage, we can see it coming together here. Would
:15:34. > :15:39.you like to get your head around one of those spray guns? I could
:15:39. > :15:44.not get my head around it. It was so overwhelming as an idea. The
:15:44. > :15:49.only idea I came up with was to put a picture of my cat on the back
:15:49. > :15:53.with a little flag around his scarf. Something cute going through the
:15:53. > :15:58.air. That is something about the dove. It is so lovely to look at.
:15:58. > :16:01.On its maiden flight, all of the people on the flight were so
:16:01. > :16:06.thrilled and excited to be on it. There will be nine of these planes.
:16:06. > :16:11.What is really lovely is that the dove in the 1948 Olympics, the
:16:11. > :16:15.doves were released as a symbol of peace for the whole world. There
:16:15. > :16:19.had just been the Second World War. It was a symbol of hope. What I am
:16:19. > :16:28.pleased with British Airways, first of all they let us do what we
:16:28. > :16:33.wanted to do and the next thing was to remove the red, blue and white
:16:33. > :16:37.flag. Just because we are hosting the Olympics, we don't own it. This
:16:37. > :16:42.is for the world to celebrate. This is showing the world that Britain
:16:42. > :16:49.is about other ideas, other things other than self-promotion it is
:16:49. > :16:52.about peace, understanding, sharing. It will is good, the same with the
:16:52. > :16:58.Paralympics. It is good.
:16:58. > :17:03.We were look up -- looking up to the sky to find one.
:17:03. > :17:08.What works on the ground does not work 15,000 feet on the air or as
:17:08. > :17:14.it takes off it is the same with Heston with the food, what tasted
:17:14. > :17:20.great on the ground does not taste good 36,000 feet on the air. The
:17:20. > :17:24.same with the music and film. That is why everything in the air is
:17:24. > :17:28.heightened. Well, look out for the nine
:17:28. > :17:34.Olympics planes with the dove motif. According to Mike Dilger, it is
:17:34. > :17:38.amazing what bird life you can spot close to the cities. When he told
:17:38. > :17:44.us that owls were drawn to bright lights, we thought there was a
:17:44. > :17:48.challenge, we asked him to prove it. I restricted my search to the M25.
:17:48. > :17:53.A boundary around the most densely populated area of Britain. The
:17:53. > :17:58.birds I am looking for are the tawny, the barn, the little, the
:17:58. > :18:05.short-eared and long-eared owls. It is almost dusk. Finding them will
:18:05. > :18:11.not be easy in an area of more than 2,500 square miles. To help, I have
:18:11. > :18:16.three teems of expert birdwatchers spread out across London. They each
:18:16. > :18:21.have an infra-red camera if they catch sight of an owl they will
:18:21. > :18:28.call me. With the sun setting I have the first tip-off. There are
:18:28. > :18:32.little owls that appear to be going in and out of what appears to be
:18:32. > :18:39.its hole. To protect the birds I have to keep my exact location
:18:39. > :18:46.secret. Once extinct in Britain, they are now trying after being re-
:18:46. > :18:50.introduced in the 1990s. Stand here. That is where it hangs
:18:51. > :18:55.around. Little owls use the same nesting
:18:55. > :19:02.location year after year. Dave saw one here an hour ago.
:19:02. > :19:07.Our patience is finally rewarded. It suddenly pops its head out it is
:19:07. > :19:13.in that lovely crevasse there. It is such a gorgeous bird. You are
:19:13. > :19:19.likely to see the birds during the day as that is when they hunt. It
:19:19. > :19:24.is flying! Flying! Fantastic! First owl down. It is dark when I get the
:19:24. > :19:28.next call. The family of tawny owls have been
:19:28. > :19:35.spotted in a Central London cemetery. That is exactly what I
:19:35. > :19:43.was hoping for. There was an adult calling about an hour -and-a-half
:19:43. > :19:47.ago, maybe a little less. Rural owls feed on small mam
:19:47. > :19:51.unanimouslys, but in the city, they become more reliant on small birds.
:19:51. > :19:56.That is why this is a perfect location.
:19:56. > :20:06.Can you hear that? The tawny owl calling in the dead of the night.
:20:06. > :20:12.
:20:12. > :20:22.Oh, it is close! It is really close. I see it! I see it! I've got to...
:20:22. > :20:23.
:20:23. > :20:28.I've got my second owl! It's now 1.00am. One of my support team is
:20:28. > :20:33.at a location where barn owls have been seen before.
:20:33. > :20:36.This is the area where they have been hunting. Lots of grass for
:20:36. > :20:42.them to hold the voles and the mice that they feed on.
:20:42. > :20:47.In the countryside, barn owls commonly hunt at dusk, but in
:20:47. > :20:56.cities they've become exclusively nocturnal hunters. After two hours,
:20:56. > :21:01.nothing, but here is footage of one filmed within a mile of the M25.
:21:01. > :21:10.Well, it is just before dawn after the end of a long night. I'm about
:21:10. > :21:15.to arrive at Rainham Marshes. Yesterday, the cameraman here
:21:15. > :21:23.captured another special owl. I am hoping to see it this morning.
:21:23. > :21:30.How are we getting on, any sign of the shorted-owl so far? Not yet. We
:21:30. > :21:35.are trying. This marsh -land is a perfect place
:21:35. > :21:40.to spot then, but in addition to last night's footage, I'm keen to
:21:40. > :21:46.set up the camera trap we set up two days ago.
:21:46. > :21:53.Shorted owl it is flying! It's is flying right past.
:21:53. > :21:58.Here we go. Lovely. Well, there we go. I have completed
:21:58. > :22:02.my dusk until dawn challenge. Two close encounters and footage of a
:22:02. > :22:10.third owl. It was a tough challenge, but the results are good enough for
:22:10. > :22:19.me and there is always another day. Nearly, Mike. Mr Mike Dilger is not
:22:19. > :22:26.the only fan of owl, is he -- owls, is he, Tracey? No. I love them.
:22:26. > :22:34.Now, can we split screen this. This is a self-portrait? It is.
:22:34. > :22:38.Why did you choose an owl? I will not say on daytime television.
:22:38. > :22:44.Fair enough! Now, Tracey, on the subject... To be honest, I will not
:22:44. > :22:48.lie. On the subject of your art, lots of
:22:48. > :22:53.people have an opinion about it. Is there a common theme? How do you
:22:54. > :23:00.describe your style and work? I come from a long tradition of a
:23:00. > :23:04.classical old-fashioned idea of art. First of all it is personal, it is
:23:05. > :23:09.subjective and I'm passionate about what I do. It is steming from me,
:23:10. > :23:15.what I am thinking, witness, see in, believe in, the philosophy that I
:23:15. > :23:18.follow. It is like I have a constant dialogue that I am
:23:18. > :23:22.constantly working out through my work.
:23:22. > :23:28.Words feature? A lot of words. The neon stuff is lovely.
:23:28. > :23:33.You do have an exhibition coming up over the summer in your home town
:23:33. > :23:42.of Margate. What can we expect to see? It is a new body of work. I'm
:23:42. > :23:51.showing with two gentlemen, Rodin and Turner, I am showing their
:23:51. > :23:56.erotic works alongside mine. I am not -- nervous about it. Not many
:23:56. > :24:01.artists have the chance to show the art in the town where they grew up.
:24:02. > :24:05.Margate is very small. But Turner showed there, he came
:24:05. > :24:10.from there. What I am hoping is that even if people don't like my
:24:10. > :24:13.work, go down to Margate to slag it off. Just go to Margate! It is
:24:13. > :24:17.beautiful. The gallery is fantastic? Margate
:24:17. > :24:23.is beautiful. It has the most beautiful sun sets in the world,
:24:23. > :24:28.that is why Turner painted there. He also had an affair with his
:24:28. > :24:34.landlady, Mrs Booth. I always say if you want a dirty weekend, don't
:24:34. > :24:40.go to Brighton, go to Margate. It is really dirty down there! Well,
:24:40. > :24:46.there is so much to Tracey's work. There is the My Bed, of course, it
:24:46. > :24:53.got us thinking, we know what Tracey's bed means to her, what
:24:53. > :24:59.does your bed mean to you? I love my bed because our son Jasper was
:24:59. > :25:04.born in the bed. At 4.00am one morning, the bed
:25:04. > :25:08.collapsed while I was feeding him. The mattress fell through with me
:25:08. > :25:17.on it. Jasper carried on feeding, my husband Paul was fast asleep and
:25:17. > :25:21.would not wake up! Welcome to my home. This is my cab. I work as a
:25:21. > :25:28.trucker Monday to Friday. Like in your own house you make it homely.
:25:29. > :25:34.You put your stuff on it I have kids, so, hence the fact I have the
:25:34. > :25:41.stuffed toys. I like to talk to them at night! Basically, obviously
:25:41. > :25:51.my spwed underneath, with the drawers here where I keep random
:25:51. > :25:52.
:25:53. > :25:58.things. I prefer my truck bed to my bed at home. Is that really sad?
:25:58. > :26:04.love our bed as it is our first marital bed. We have slept apart. I
:26:04. > :26:09.have a heart problem. I sleep on the double bed down here. Mike is
:26:09. > :26:17.upstairs. Now we have the bed. Basically we can really start to
:26:18. > :26:27.feel like we are married. You are going to make it? Yes.
:26:28. > :26:33.
:26:33. > :26:38.Ah! Comfy at last! Our new bed! like my bed because it's got secret
:26:38. > :26:46.compartments and most of all it's got my favourite football team,
:26:46. > :26:55.Chelsea. My stairs are good as my sisters can't get up it. My sisters
:26:55. > :27:00.are 22 and 27 years old. All of them are really annoying! I like my
:27:00. > :27:08.bed because it is really high up in the room. Because it is safe and
:27:08. > :27:13.snuggley. I love my bed. Knight.
:27:13. > :27:17.-- night, night. There we are, the lights go out.
:27:17. > :27:25.I want to ask you something, everyone knows you share the sofa,
:27:25. > :27:29.but in the studio I have heard that you share a bed? Hang on! It is
:27:29. > :27:37.factuallally correct. Basically, I have moved house, I am sleeping on
:27:37. > :27:45.Matt's sofa bed, but that is in my bed, not in Matt's house. There it
:27:45. > :27:50.is!. That is embarrassing! Not as embarrassing as mine that half of
:27:50. > :27:55.the world saw. It was recently in Adelaide. Apparently when it was on
:27:55. > :28:02.display, a lot of British people went and waved Union Jacks around
:28:02. > :28:08.It must be remade every time it is done? It is. Every time I do it, I
:28:08. > :28:13.sort of go... Now, when a museum does it, they wear gloves and
:28:13. > :28:23.things, masks, they think it is so disgusting! Tonight, we have
:28:23. > :28:27.
:28:27. > :28:31.noticed with the dove, with the Paralympics, with the charity,
:28:32. > :28:38.birds are very important to you? When I was depressed, I was so for
:28:38. > :28:42.a couple of years. With the art I wanted to make something that made
:28:43. > :28:49.me feel good. I didn't want to draw myself. So I started with birds and
:28:49. > :28:55.I have carried on doing it. They make me feel good. It is like
:28:55. > :28:57.angels, like the owl, when we saw it flying, it was so beautiful. You