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:00:24. > :00:28.$:/STARTFEED. Hello. Welcome to the One Show with Alex Jones. And Matt

:00:28. > :00:34.Baker. It's easy to imagine if our three guests weren't here they

:00:34. > :00:42.would be on their own having a brilliant night in. Feathers might

:00:42. > :00:46.just fly as the evening went on. Please welcome Pauline Quirke,

:00:46. > :00:52.Linda Robson and Lesley Joseph. APPLAUSE

:00:52. > :00:58.It's lovely to see you. It's not true that you are all sick of the

:00:58. > :01:04.sight of each other now? Maybe! know what, restarted rehearsals on

:01:04. > :01:10.Monday and we are not getting a lot done, because we're doing too much

:01:10. > :01:13.rabbiting. We had to say to the director, "Where there's a gap say

:01:13. > :01:18.something." Coming up the stairs it was just talking. We are still

:01:18. > :01:22.talking when we get here. It's lovely. You've all gone off to do

:01:22. > :01:28.separate projects, but who's best in keeping in touch? Linda and I

:01:28. > :01:37.have worked together a lot since we finished. Some people say too much.

:01:38. > :01:46.Probably, yes. She is mad about the old Twitter business now. Are you

:01:46. > :01:52.one of them? I've got 10,000 followers. It was 12,000. It's

:01:52. > :01:56.12,000. Matt's not keen on it. I was going to talk about the title

:01:56. > :01:59.sequence, which has to be one of the most memorable especially from

:01:59. > :02:06.our growing up, but so many people have seen your childhood

:02:06. > :02:10.photographs. I know, yeah. Look, there we are. Arh. Bless us. Lovely.

:02:10. > :02:15.I love the hair cut. When they did the titles they were talking about

:02:15. > :02:19.using our daughters, but they said they didn't look enough like us, so

:02:19. > :02:24.they cast two little girls who looked like us. That was for the

:02:24. > :02:34.end. You've been friends for 46 years? We were - I'm 54 this year

:02:34. > :02:39.and Linda is 72. We were at primary school together. It's 45 years in

:02:39. > :02:45.the business this year. So a long time. It's strange when I first met

:02:45. > :02:50.these two to work with them, they'd known each other all their lives.

:02:50. > :02:54.We went to the Ritz and you were wearing trainers. Wait a minute.

:02:54. > :03:01.It's absolutely true. I was so scared. We didn't think I would get

:03:01. > :03:06.in. We got in and we had champagne and you put water in it. They

:03:06. > :03:10.bought us this expensive champagne over, pink. The wine waiter was

:03:10. > :03:16.devastated because we poured Perrier water in it. It sounds like

:03:16. > :03:21.an episode of Birds. It's wasted on us. I think I had to finish all of

:03:21. > :03:26.this. You are back with a stage show which we'll talk about later

:03:26. > :03:35.and the family is extended. It is. Your son is part of the cast and

:03:35. > :03:38.he's here tonight. I bet his mum's gorgeous. What a good-looking lad!

:03:38. > :03:48.We'll find out where you left the story, but we'll remind ourselves

:03:48. > :03:50.

:03:50. > :04:00.of the last episode ten years ago. Oh, my God! Oh, no! Oh, yes. Shot

:04:00. > :04:07.out quicker than... It's two fingers up to the NHS. Hello

:04:07. > :04:17.beautiful. Oh, my God, get this child away from me before I get mad

:04:17. > :04:18.

:04:18. > :04:23.cow disease. APPLAUSE

:04:23. > :04:26.This is the weird thing, we did over 100 episodes and I do not

:04:26. > :04:31.remember anything about that episode. I think I can remember

:04:31. > :04:36.that green top. I remember giving birth in the stable, but I can't

:04:36. > :04:42.remember the sex of the child until we did the stage show. It's a boy.

:04:42. > :04:46.You had a different reaction there. Also tonight, in honour of our

:04:46. > :04:51.guests, whose characters lived next door to each other, we want you to

:04:51. > :04:56.take a photograph of yourself and your neighbour, so send it with

:04:56. > :05:02.send it in. If you've never said hello before, well, now's your

:05:02. > :05:08.chance. We'll reveal the story of how this enormous photograph was

:05:08. > :05:12.taken. Go, on Dave. We believe this is the world's largest-ever

:05:12. > :05:17.Panorama and there's quite a story to tell. Of the many places hit in

:05:17. > :05:20.the recent floods, an unexpected casualty was an inkent bridge in

:05:20. > :05:29.Somerset called the Tarr Steps. It was constructed from huge stones

:05:29. > :05:36.laid hundreds of years ago, but it was still torn apart. Here's Matt.

:05:36. > :05:42.Around us is Exmoor and running through is the river. Going across

:05:42. > :05:52.the river used to be the Tarr Steps, an ancient stone-slab bridge. I say

:05:52. > :05:54.

:05:54. > :05:56.used to, because on 23rd December last year the river smashed a hole

:05:57. > :06:03.in here. The water would have been up to here. I wouldn't have been

:06:03. > :06:08.here. It would have been foolish. The damage that did to the Tarr

:06:08. > :06:12.Steps is plain to see. Massive slabs carried all the way down the

:06:12. > :06:18.river. No, somebody's got to put it back together. It's a bit like

:06:18. > :06:22.jenga. That task has fallen to Kenny Higgins, who with his team,

:06:22. > :06:28.has been working around the clock to put the Tarr Steps back together

:06:28. > :06:33.again. What we will do initially is salvage all the stones and set them

:06:33. > :06:38.to one side and identify them. Find all the pier stones and where they

:06:38. > :06:41.originated and we'll re-install the actual stop slabs. You've got the

:06:41. > :06:48.pier stones which are the uprights and then the slab stones sitting on

:06:48. > :06:52.top of those. How do you know where they go? We have a file, which has

:06:52. > :06:57.a lot of specifications and details on the individual stones. There's

:06:57. > :07:02.photographs. Some have a chip on one corner, maybe a slight crack

:07:02. > :07:07.and we use that to move the slabs. We get them in. No one knows when

:07:07. > :07:13.the bridge was built. Some believe it's 3,000 years old, but it's most

:07:13. > :07:16.likely to have been constructed 500 to 600 years ago. Personally, I

:07:16. > :07:20.like the local legend which says it was built by the devil to win a bet.

:07:20. > :07:25.A lot of people will look and think it's a pile of stones, why should

:07:25. > :07:30.we bother putting it back the way it was? It's very, very unusual.

:07:30. > :07:33.It's unique. A claper bridge is basically stones laid across a

:07:33. > :07:37.river. They're not in mortar together or fixed together, but

:07:37. > :07:42.it's very different to all the other bridges, because it's much,

:07:43. > :07:46.much bigger. It has 17 spans, rather than one or two. It's an

:07:46. > :07:50.ancient monument, so it's legally protected. There's a duty to repair

:07:50. > :07:54.and people feel strongly about the Tarr Steps. People have family

:07:54. > :07:58.memories of coming here perhaps when they were children and it's in

:07:58. > :08:02.the national park and it's beautiful and it's probably one of

:08:02. > :08:07.the most iconic sights on Exmoor. To complete the work, Kenny has had

:08:07. > :08:13.to bring in a specialist piece of equipment. A first inspection may

:08:13. > :08:19.look like Kenny and the boys are inflating some kind of inflatable,

:08:19. > :08:22.but no, this is a boomer to go across like a dam and it unfurls

:08:22. > :08:30.like a frog's tongue to divert the flow of the river away from the bit

:08:30. > :08:35.that they want to work on. Bearing in mind this has been around for

:08:35. > :08:40.centuries, do you look and think amazing, so long ago, they got it

:08:40. > :08:46.right really? Absolutely. The privileges we have of using the

:08:46. > :08:53.heavy machinery to lift these things and what did they have? I'm

:08:53. > :08:57.not opposed to modern structures, but this thing does the job. It's a

:08:57. > :09:01.damn sight cheaper than building in concrete. You get satisfaction of

:09:01. > :09:05.doing something like this. By the time we have finished we have

:09:05. > :09:10.reconstructed the Tarr Steps. Within a week, the last slab was

:09:10. > :09:16.put in place. The Tarr Steps were now back to as they were, to be

:09:16. > :09:21.peshed, but more importantly, -- appreciated, but more importantly

:09:21. > :09:25.used as an important bridge. What a bridge that is. Very proud. You

:09:25. > :09:27.were saying, that you've been spending some time down in the West

:09:27. > :09:31.Country, Pauline? Would you say it's your favourite place? I loved

:09:31. > :09:37.it. I've been filming down there for three months. I've never been

:09:37. > :09:40.to that part of the world before, I'm ashamed to say. Lime Regis and

:09:40. > :09:45.all the coast and I absolutely loved it. Really did. What a

:09:45. > :09:49.beautiful part of the world. What were you filming? It's called

:09:49. > :09:53.Broadchurch. It's a drama for ITV beginning next month. We are there

:09:53. > :09:58.from August up to December. You had a bit of time to enjoy the place?

:09:58. > :10:03.was staying right on the beach. Lovely. Girls, do you enjoy

:10:03. > :10:07.holidaying in Britain? I do. I love it down there, but I learnt to swim

:10:07. > :10:12.in Weymouth and I used to go to the beach with my parents. We always

:10:12. > :10:17.went down to Devon and Cornwall and I love it. There is a theatre in

:10:17. > :10:20.Cornwall, which is right on the cliff. I played there. There were

:10:20. > :10:28.storms and lightning. It's fantastic. I absolutely love it.

:10:28. > :10:33.you go on holiday together then, girls? No. No. No! We spent 17

:10:33. > :10:39.weeks together last year. It's nice to get away. Being on tour is like

:10:39. > :10:46.being on holiday. We are in hotels or digs or cottages. When we went

:10:46. > :10:52.to L and Berlin and Majorca. That was all together on the series.

:10:52. > :10:56.think it would put an end to the friendship! We have a nice time. We

:10:56. > :11:02.went to Bath last year. That's the first time I've ever been and I

:11:02. > :11:09.absolutely loved it. Beautiful place. You were there for Christmas.

:11:09. > :11:12.The Roman baths. Shut up, Linda! They're only on for an hour!

:11:12. > :11:18.hasn't mentioned the granddaughter yet. That's coming up. We look

:11:18. > :11:23.forward to that. In 1993 Kate Hoey confirmed what we all thought that

:11:23. > :11:28.the BT Tower didn't exist, but as we discovered up until then it was

:11:29. > :11:33.supposed to be a secret, despite having had five million visitors.

:11:33. > :11:39.Opened in 1965, the Post Office Tower was Britain's tallest

:11:39. > :11:45.building for the following 15 years. Despite being some 620 feet high,

:11:45. > :11:52.its looming presence was expected to go unnoticed. Because, due to

:11:52. > :12:00.the role it played in beaming sil defence messages across the nation,

:12:00. > :12:03.-- civil defence messages across the nation, it was protected by the

:12:03. > :12:06.Government. Today, it's not the case that it's illegal to take

:12:06. > :12:12.photographs, and I'm on a mission to discover a fresh angle on

:12:12. > :12:18.London's original supertower. And find the photographic beauty in the

:12:19. > :12:21.detail. It was a war photographer, Robert Capper who said if your

:12:21. > :12:26.photographs aren't good enough, you're not good enough. That

:12:26. > :12:29.applies perfectly here. Looking straight up, it's not the most

:12:29. > :12:32.comfortable position to take photographs from, but all of the

:12:32. > :12:40.surrounding buildings create this amazing pattern of lines that

:12:40. > :12:43.converge on the very top of the tower. And zooming in reveals a

:12:43. > :12:47.telling detail. The circular shape of the tower, which was used to

:12:47. > :12:54.give it the strength to withstand the force of an indirect nuclear

:12:54. > :13:03.blast. But, you can't fully appreciate the tower from down here.

:13:03. > :13:10.I'm giving most of the 842 steps a miss. -- 843 steps a miss.? What is

:13:10. > :13:19.one of fastest lives in Europe. -- in what is one of the fastest lifts

:13:19. > :13:23.in Europe. But even this can only take us so far. 36th floor. Where

:13:23. > :13:27.we're going it's a last set of stairs, a ladder and through the

:13:27. > :13:37.air conditioning room. I think we're nearly there, before one last

:13:37. > :13:40.climb to freedom. No now, that is what you call a view -- now, that

:13:40. > :13:45.is what you call a view and when this was first built it needed to

:13:45. > :13:51.be. The tower was one of many of a network designed to carry phone

:13:51. > :13:55.calls and sing nals via microwave radio links across the -- signals

:13:55. > :14:02.via microwave radio links across the UK. Each needed a clear line of

:14:02. > :14:07.sight to the next tower in the chain. Today the Post Office Tower

:14:07. > :14:13.is the BT Tower and the microwave dishes that did encircle this

:14:13. > :14:18.entire floor has been replaced by a modern network of fibre optic

:14:18. > :14:22.cables and they're buried in the ground, but the unparalleled pan

:14:22. > :14:29.rammic vistas it offers over the capital remain. Back in 1965, all

:14:29. > :14:31.of this could have been yours for the grand admission fee of just

:14:31. > :14:35.four shillings. More than one million people went to see the view

:14:35. > :14:41.during the first year of operation. London had never had a view like

:14:41. > :14:45.this before. And neither had they had this particular dining

:14:45. > :14:49.revolution, a rotating restaurant floor, that having been tested for

:14:49. > :14:56.smoothness in an aircraft hanger by pouring cups of tea, offered diners

:14:56. > :14:59.a complete view of the capital in Minutes. Here it would seem the

:14:59. > :15:04.sky's really the limit. Sadly, the public viewing galleries and

:15:05. > :15:14.restaurant are no more, but the floor did still turn. To capture a

:15:15. > :15:24.

:15:24. > :15:30.sense of that 1960's glamour, we've We should get our own panoramic

:15:30. > :15:34.shot in no time. It is not every day that you get to use a landmark

:15:34. > :15:39.building as your very own motorised panoramic tripod and this for me is

:15:39. > :15:44.the beauty in the detail of the BT Tower. I can't help thinking that

:15:44. > :15:49.we could do better though. Don't put yourself down, I thought

:15:49. > :15:55.it was a lovely photographs. This is a trip down memory lane. You

:15:55. > :16:00.won't reminiscing about having lunch there? We got taken there for

:16:00. > :16:08.lunch to the BT Tower and then we went to a pantomime in the West End

:16:08. > :16:13.so it was quite an exciting days. It goes round reduce lonely. It is

:16:13. > :16:19.good because you can wait until you pass the toilet to get us. -- it

:16:19. > :16:25.goes round very slowly. We sort where you left us ten years ago in

:16:25. > :16:35.Birds of a Feather so bring us up to date. I am in a North people's

:16:35. > :16:39.

:16:39. > :16:45.home. But...! -- in an old people's home. Turn your hearing aid up!

:16:45. > :16:50.your character is? Obviously! You have to come and see the show but

:16:50. > :17:00.rest assured, the eyelashes are still on and the skirts are even

:17:00. > :17:03.shorter. I have not seen them for how many years? Ten years.

:17:03. > :17:11.finished in 1999 so it is 14 years since the television series

:17:11. > :17:17.finished. And what about you? are still living Together, Sharon

:17:17. > :17:22.and Tracey. Other men still in jail? They are out. They do get

:17:22. > :17:30.mentioned a lot but you do not see them. Tracey and Daryl are not

:17:30. > :17:36.together any more, they had a bitter a.. Her son lives in

:17:36. > :17:44.Australia and Travis, the one she gave birth to in the stable, he is

:17:44. > :17:52.in the show, played by our son's, they share the part. How is it

:17:52. > :17:59.working with your mum? Which one? It is like having three! No, it is

:17:59. > :18:06.really good. Is she very demanding? She is sitting at there. You can be

:18:06. > :18:11.honest. In the interval, we have to make cups of coffee and make sure

:18:11. > :18:18.it is cool enough for them when they get us. We have got them well-

:18:18. > :18:24.trained. It has been lovely. It was always like a family. Now to have

:18:24. > :18:28.the two boys there, it feels even more like family. We have various

:18:28. > :18:35.rituals that keep grubbing before we come on stage. I don't know how

:18:35. > :18:40.they got to be what they are -- keep growing. Is always has to say

:18:40. > :18:50.the same at every night. He said donkey once and now we have to say

:18:50. > :18:50.

:18:50. > :18:57.that every night. We do pelvic thrusts, we grab hands... People

:18:57. > :19:07.are having their tea at home! Let's keep something private! We put to

:19:07. > :19:07.

:19:07. > :19:11.the cameras into rehearsal. Let's What are you giving me evils for?

:19:11. > :19:17.You had better not go near the windows with that, the paparazzi

:19:17. > :19:23.are outside and they offered me 50 quid to dish the dirt on new. I

:19:23. > :19:28.told them to get lost. That stuff is worth at least a grand. After

:19:28. > :19:32.the Leveson Inquiry, I did not think this was allowed. A suppose

:19:32. > :19:42.it is inevitable. A young glamourous woman involved in an

:19:42. > :19:48.unexplained death. What young glamourous woman? You?! Brilliant!

:19:48. > :19:55.It is just like you are having the same conversation. Your editors

:19:55. > :20:01.have been very kind to us. We did not merit any of the lines! And you

:20:01. > :20:07.had your script in your hand! it shot in front of a live studio

:20:07. > :20:13.audience, Birds of a Feather? Is it very similar to how you would

:20:13. > :20:17.do it in the studio? No. In the theatre, sometimes things have

:20:17. > :20:23.happened like we have forgotten our lines and we stopped for five

:20:23. > :20:26.minutes while we giggle, but in the studio it has to be quite precise,

:20:26. > :20:33.with the lives. Thinking through the camera to about 12 million

:20:33. > :20:39.people. It is very different. first night was absolutely terrible.

:20:39. > :20:44.We got to the second half and we said one line three times. Then we

:20:44. > :20:50.kept going round in circles. In the end I just said, I haven't got a

:20:50. > :21:00.clue what to say next and the stage manager gave us the next line. We

:21:00. > :21:02.

:21:02. > :21:09.were so scared. DU at lib? No. Only when things go wrong. -- Do you ad

:21:09. > :21:14.lib? We discovered last year on tour that when it does go wrong,

:21:14. > :21:20.and that got less and less as the weeks went on, the other two are

:21:20. > :21:25.there for the people who has gone wrong. We have so much history.

:21:25. > :21:30.can see the panic in their lives. There is one line that Pauline has

:21:30. > :21:39.and I can see the panic! Sometimes the audience get it and sometimes

:21:39. > :21:47.they don't. Are you wearing leopardskin? Yes, I am. The shorter

:21:47. > :21:51.but you have ever seen in your life. And the high heels. I remember it

:21:51. > :22:01.very well from my younger days. A did you have a crush on her? I

:22:01. > :22:06.think a lot of us did! I can feel the electricity. Can you? The Birds

:22:06. > :22:09.of a Feather tour starts next Tuesday in Coventry.

:22:09. > :22:19.Earlier on today we asked ourselves if it was too shameful to show a

:22:19. > :22:21.

:22:21. > :22:25.bird film with the girls from Birds In the animal kingdom, it is

:22:25. > :22:30.generally accepted that it is the male of the species that rules the

:22:30. > :22:34.roost, yet on the highest peaks of the cane crops national park there

:22:34. > :22:42.is a bird whether traditional roles are reversed and it is the girls

:22:42. > :22:47.leaving the boys holding the babies, and that Birt is the -- that bird

:22:47. > :22:53.is the dotterel. They belong to the plover family and come here in the

:22:53. > :22:59.spring in order to breed. Kathy from Scottish National Heritage has

:22:59. > :23:03.brought along her expert tracker Nelson. I will need his keen eyes

:23:03. > :23:07.in this weather if I will have a chance of finding the dotterel.

:23:07. > :23:13.What is it that is so special about the tops of the mountains in the

:23:13. > :23:19.Cairngorms? It is adamant landscape from the Ice Age. Not quite but

:23:19. > :23:23.very close to being glacial. Not many predators up there. So they

:23:23. > :23:29.have less chance of being killed when they are breeding in this

:23:29. > :23:34.hostile environments. What are the chances? It is a difficult boat to

:23:34. > :23:39.find. We are probably going to be the ones that find it harder than

:23:39. > :23:44.they are -- it is a difficult bird to find! The top of the Cairngorms

:23:44. > :23:49.is more than 1,000 metres above sea level. What was rain at the bottom

:23:49. > :23:57.is falling as snow on the summit. Searching in these conditions is

:23:57. > :24:03.going to be task. -- toughed. Thankfully after three hours, the

:24:03. > :24:09.clouds lift but we were still not having much luck. Looking for the

:24:09. > :24:19.dotterel is trying to find a needle in an enormous haystack. We are

:24:19. > :24:30.

:24:30. > :24:36.Have a look at this. The mountain crane fly. That is food for the

:24:36. > :24:42.dotterel and a really good sign that we might just find the bird.

:24:43. > :24:52.After another four hours of searching, it is our expert Nelson

:24:53. > :25:00.

:25:01. > :25:05.who finally senses something in the I can't believe it! We have got a

:25:05. > :25:09.pair of dotterel ats. You can see the difference in their feathers

:25:09. > :25:15.and the size. She is the one in front and he is the one that is

:25:15. > :25:18.following. In almost every other bird, it is the male that is the

:25:19. > :25:24.show will. Why it is the role reversed with this one? You will

:25:24. > :25:31.have heard of polygamy, where a man takes several wives. This is the

:25:31. > :25:35.opposite. Polly Andre. Where a female will mate with several males.

:25:35. > :25:40.She mates with one male and produces a clutch for him, his

:25:40. > :25:45.chicks, but she then mates with another male and possibly a third

:25:45. > :25:52.and possibly even a fourth, so she literally doesn't have all of her

:25:52. > :25:57.eggs in one basket. Leaving de male in charge of rearing, the scheme

:25:57. > :26:02.are his three to find new mates and lay more eggs. These birds have

:26:02. > :26:07.developed this strategy to allow as many chicks as possible to

:26:07. > :26:13.successfully fled during the short summer breeding season. --

:26:13. > :26:18.successfully breed. That his courtship behaviour. That is lovely.

:26:19. > :26:26.The male is chasing the female. looks as if he wants to mate with

:26:26. > :26:31.her. They are in a difficult phase, do you want to be with me?

:26:31. > :26:39.Courtship behaviour is a great sign. The Scottish titles are the

:26:39. > :26:45.dotterel stronghold -- Scottish Highlands. Let's hope this couple

:26:45. > :26:48.of successful and the male turns out to be a devoted father. What a

:26:48. > :26:58.fascinating life style and what a treat to finally find the

:26:58. > :26:59.

:26:59. > :27:09.If the dotterel is the Dorien of the bird world, who are the Sharon

:27:09. > :27:14.and Tracey? Yes, very decorative, quantitative with men, the dotterel.

:27:14. > :27:20.She will fly all the way to Norway and leave the men with the babies!

:27:20. > :27:25.We have a sparrowhawk, bossy, controlling. Females are much

:27:25. > :27:31.larger than the male but particularly the sparrowhawk. She

:27:31. > :27:39.needs to be big and put a lot of weight on to bring up their chicks.

:27:39. > :27:46.Or you are not saying that Linda is big. No! The male is much smaller

:27:46. > :27:50.and more agile so they can go so the smaller birds. Definitely the

:27:50. > :28:00.females are bossing the males in the sparrow world. We thought long

:28:00. > :28:02.

:28:02. > :28:06.and hard about Sharon with the cuckoos. Taking it easy, letting

:28:06. > :28:10.everybody else take the strain, the cuckoo is well known in the natural

:28:10. > :28:16.world. They come from Africa, they will breed in the spring, the

:28:16. > :28:24.female cuckoo was said there and she will look for a nest, she will

:28:24. > :28:28.go him, lay one holes her own eggs inside the nest. Then the chick

:28:28. > :28:34.were oust the chicks of the warblers have. That is the sum

:28:34. > :28:41.total of the cuckoo's involvement. Nice! I think I did best out of the

:28:41. > :28:51.three of us! Sparrowhawk is all right! You have some other

:28:51. > :28:53.

:28:53. > :28:59.examples? Yes, a bossy females. The rain. -- wren. The theme are just

:28:59. > :29:05.sits and watches what the male makes their nest -- the female just

:29:05. > :29:10.sits and watches. If she does not like it, she will walk away. The

:29:10. > :29:16.male will make up to seven nests. In this case, the female is happy

:29:16. > :29:22.enough. That is one of my favourites. We have pigeons in the

:29:22. > :29:32.rehearsal room. We can hear them in the chimney breast. A sudden you

:29:32. > :29:33.

:29:33. > :29:36.realise I have never seen a baby pigeon. They're squabs. They can

:29:36. > :29:44.meet and greet any month of the year, they do not have a specific

:29:44. > :29:50.breeding season. And I have never seen a grown-up sparrow. Because

:29:50. > :29:57.they are hidden away. Do you think sparrows are baby pigeons? How can

:29:57. > :30:04.I put this? No. We should be celebrating a 62-year-

:30:04. > :30:14.old's birthday. Yes, the oldest boat in the northern hemisphere. An

:30:14. > :30:14.

:30:14. > :30:22.albatross in the end all -- Northam R picker Lago of Hawaii. It was

:30:22. > :30:26.ringed as a five-year-old in 1956. All albatrosses are monogamous.

:30:26. > :30:33.Wisdom has had several partners because she is so old. She has

:30:33. > :30:43.probably raised 32 chicks fourth dog that his footage they specially

:30:43. > :30:49.

:30:49. > :30:55.shot for the One Show full of dog And when it is five or 62, it looks

:30:55. > :31:05.exactly the same, they do not have the problem of ageing! It will

:31:05. > :31:13.

:31:13. > :31:18.carry on and carry on. Looking good $:/STARTFEED. The retirement age is

:31:18. > :31:23.rising and by 2026 it's planned to go up to 67 for both men and women.

:31:23. > :31:27.What happens when you get to call it a day at work. As we discover,

:31:27. > :31:31.things could be very different from what we're pecting. Retirement,

:31:31. > :31:37.it's the time of life when you could put your feet up, or spend

:31:37. > :31:40.more time doing the things you love. But young people today, they don't

:31:41. > :31:47.do jobs for life and their works pensions aren't as secure or

:31:47. > :31:52.generous. So, is retirement for them just a fantasy? 28-year-old

:31:52. > :31:55.Florence is a PR consultant living in London. I don't have any money

:31:55. > :32:00.or savings. Pension savings has fallen across all age groups with

:32:00. > :32:06.11 million of us not saving enough for our retirement. The age group

:32:06. > :32:11.saving the least are those aged 22 to 29. I like two to three holidays

:32:11. > :32:16.a year and love going out for dinner with my friends. Florence

:32:16. > :32:22.still knows what she wants. I would like to have around �30 a year when

:32:22. > :32:28.I retire. I would like to live in a two-bedroom cottage in a nice

:32:28. > :32:34.village. She earns under the average salary, but doesn't save a

:32:34. > :32:43.penny. We asked her to keep a diary and I'm bringing Sarah pen nels

:32:43. > :32:52.along to -- Pennells along to see. I went to a gallery and out for

:32:52. > :32:56.dinner. It wasn't expensive. What's that? Festival tickets. �32 on food.

:32:56. > :33:02.You are looking on banking on it never raining. What would you cut?

:33:02. > :33:07.Maybe a lit bit. There's barely any there. Whether you want savings for

:33:07. > :33:13.a deposit on a house or retirement, put some money in the account

:33:13. > :33:17.before you get your paws on it. Do you save in a pension? I don't. My

:33:17. > :33:22.employer pays into a pension for me. I think if I paid into it they

:33:22. > :33:28.would match what I put into it. That would leave Florence relying

:33:28. > :33:32.on a State pension, that's �107 a week and her income. If she stays

:33:32. > :33:36.with the same employer until 65, their contributions means she'll

:33:37. > :33:45.get around �160 top-up. But if she matched that �100 a month they pay

:33:45. > :33:49.in, that would bring the top-up up to �3040. She'll have to put aside

:33:49. > :33:55.between �400 a month, including her employer's contributions.

:33:55. > :33:59.taking Florence on a journey to see what her future could hold. This

:33:59. > :34:04.community centre offers a luncheon group for local pensioners, costing

:34:04. > :34:08.them �2.35 each. It provides a social opportunity to those, but

:34:09. > :34:13.it's a far cry from what she's used to. I believe in living from day to

:34:13. > :34:18.day. I lived in those days. I used to go out every night. When you

:34:18. > :34:23.were thinking about when you retire what would you dream? I wanted a

:34:23. > :34:30.cottage in the country. That's your dream. My husband and I spoke about

:34:30. > :34:39.that. When it came to the mortgage, I could not afford it. I lived in a

:34:39. > :34:44.flat. It's a little flat. Like every pensioner, but it's up to the

:34:44. > :34:50.youngsters today, what they pay. you think I should be saving now?

:34:50. > :34:56.When you've got a chance. You've got a chance. You should do it.

:34:56. > :34:59.Florence is looking in a mirror. She has met Ada who enjoyed herself

:34:59. > :35:05.and spent her money. She told Florence they wished she hadn't and

:35:05. > :35:11.saved a bit more. If Florence wants that pension of �30,000 a year she

:35:12. > :35:16.better start saving now. To get that had she started at 25, she

:35:16. > :35:20.needs �5,000. If she starts now it rises to �9,000 a year. This is the

:35:20. > :35:23.type of house you want. That's right. With no savings at all in

:35:23. > :35:29.order to get on the property ladder, Florence needs to get together a

:35:29. > :35:32.deposit. Ing saving �300 a month would give her �20,000 in five

:35:32. > :35:41.years' time, but even that's not going to be enough for the sort of

:35:41. > :35:47.places she wants, so I'm showing her a more realistic proposition.

:35:47. > :35:51.She could afford a one-bed flat. A mortgage of �600. She would own it

:35:51. > :35:56.outright when she retires, but if she wants the pension as well,

:35:56. > :36:00.she'll need savings of �500 a month, including her employer's

:36:00. > :36:05.contribution and tax relief, so she'll have just over �100 to spend

:36:05. > :36:08.a week. Ironically, the same as today's State pension. She'll not

:36:08. > :36:11.have the kind of retirement that most people dream of. It's

:36:11. > :36:14.definitely become apparent that I need to think more about exactly

:36:15. > :36:19.what I want when I retire and the sort of place I want to live and

:36:19. > :36:25.how I'm going to get there using my current circumstances. I'm clearly

:36:25. > :36:30.not saving enough money to be where I want to be when I retire. It's

:36:30. > :36:33.frightening. I'm not being very sensible in that department. I'm

:36:33. > :36:41.not mentioning ages, but who out of you three is ready for retirement?

:36:41. > :36:46.That's got to be me then. Hello! I get my pension. She's been getting

:36:46. > :36:50.it for over 20 years. Only you can get away with that. I do, but the

:36:50. > :36:53.trouble is if you're working then you'll pay tax on it anyway and I

:36:53. > :36:58.think whichever way you go, property, there's no guarantee it

:36:58. > :37:01.will go up. Whatever you do, it's never going to be worth it. Did you

:37:01. > :37:06.feel well prepared and invest throughout your whole life?

:37:06. > :37:09.Coming to Birds was a bit later in my career so I think it's wise to

:37:09. > :37:13.start planning for the year dot, but all the rules are changing now,

:37:13. > :37:18.so it's never going to be this wonderful panacea that you'll be

:37:18. > :37:22.able to retire and what do you do about old age and care homes

:37:22. > :37:27.wherever you are? Are you two prepared and putting money aside?

:37:27. > :37:32.little bit. Not a lot. Probably started in my 40s, which was maybe

:37:32. > :37:37.too late to start. What age would you recommend? This is the thing

:37:37. > :37:40.about pensions, that the earlier you start, the easier it is. My

:37:40. > :37:44.financial adviser talks about a rule he calls the half and half

:37:44. > :37:51.rule, that if you want half your salary when you retire you save

:37:51. > :37:56.half your age when you start. If you start when you're 20 you save

:37:56. > :38:00.half 20,10%, if you're 40, you save half, 20%. The longer you leave it

:38:00. > :38:03.the harder and harder it is to build up a big fund in your pension

:38:03. > :38:09.pot, because you're money hasn't got as long to work for you as it

:38:09. > :38:16.would be if you started when you were younger. My kids are going to

:38:16. > :38:21.look after me. Charlie? Hang on. You'll look after mummy, won't you

:38:21. > :38:27.son? Yeah, definitely! We'll get a bit more advice for you while

:38:27. > :38:31.Declan's here. You are begging to be put in a home. The thing is, the

:38:31. > :38:37.word itself is a turn-off. If it was an invest in your future scheme,

:38:37. > :38:42.more people would be putting their money in. It's normally called the

:38:42. > :38:46.old-age pension and when you are really young you don't think you'll

:38:46. > :38:49.get old and you'll never work like you are now. It's the future that -

:38:49. > :38:56.you could say test better to spend because you've only got one life

:38:56. > :39:01.and worry about what when the time comes. Yeah. It depends how much of

:39:01. > :39:07.a burden you want to be on everyone else when you reach that stage. The

:39:07. > :39:11.word is such a bore. Who wants to save for a pension when they're 20

:39:11. > :39:15.or 30? There are other fun ways of spending money and if you are

:39:15. > :39:19.younger, there are other demands on the cash, the mortgage, the car and

:39:19. > :39:22.perhaps a wedding or babies. There are huge demands on money. If you

:39:22. > :39:26.thought about it differently, stop calling it a pension, start

:39:27. > :39:33.thinking of it this way - you're not spending today so that you can

:39:33. > :39:39.spend and enjoy yourself when you're older. It's deferred

:39:39. > :39:45.gratification rather than instant. What about the risks? There are

:39:45. > :39:48.always risks. Some that are tied to the value of the markets, you saw

:39:48. > :39:52.when the markets tumbled at the start of this particular century,

:39:52. > :39:55.anyone retiring at that point relying on the stock market got far

:39:55. > :39:59.less than they expected. The thing you have to remember with pension

:39:59. > :40:03.is this - the state pension is never as generous as people expect

:40:03. > :40:08.and in today's money it's six grand a year. The other thing is, the

:40:08. > :40:11.amount of money you need in your own private pot to have a

:40:11. > :40:15.comfortable retirement is always staggering greater than you imagine.

:40:15. > :40:20.The earlier you start, the easier it should be. What about putting

:40:20. > :40:23.money in property? You can do that. For some people that works. You buy

:40:23. > :40:26.a big property when you're working and move somewhere smaller. But

:40:27. > :40:31.what tends to happen for some people the money runs out a lot

:40:31. > :40:36.faster than they expect. Declan, it's such a shame you didn't come

:40:36. > :40:41.on earlier, like two years ago. Thank you so much. Earlier on, we

:40:41. > :40:45.asked you to nip next door have have a photograph with your

:40:45. > :40:53.neighbour. This is Nicky C and T and they've been neighbours in

:40:53. > :40:57.Cornwall for two-and-a-half years. This is John and neighbour Rudy who

:40:57. > :41:02.is 101 years old. My mum is 100 and she got a telegram from the Queen

:41:02. > :41:07.and if I may say, talking about pensions, she got a telegram from

:41:07. > :41:14.Iain Duncan Smith, Minister of Works and pensions. How bizarre is

:41:14. > :41:18.that? Love it. Was he asking for money? She is 101 in May. Bless her.

:41:18. > :41:22.Talking of investing in the future, they say that one is born every

:41:22. > :41:27.minute, but of the 33,000 registered midwives in the UK, only

:41:27. > :41:33.132 of them are male and in Scotland, there's just three, with

:41:33. > :41:38.just one man delivering at home. We went to meet the man flying the

:41:38. > :41:41.flag. If you asked me to choose the perfect midwife for this baby I

:41:41. > :41:51.would have said someone kind, patient, good at quelling nerves,

:41:51. > :41:55.but I would never think of a man. Meet David Cunningham. David is

:41:55. > :41:58.currently the only practising community male midwife in Scotland.

:41:58. > :42:06.And he's been helping women to deliver babies for the past 25

:42:06. > :42:12.years. Can you hear that? That's a good one there. Over the years,

:42:12. > :42:17.David's delivered hundreds of babies. What was your husband's

:42:17. > :42:22.reaction to your midwife being a man? I think we both were a bit

:42:22. > :42:25.like that. My first midwife that I had didn't have children, and in

:42:25. > :42:30.some respects there was absolutely no difference because she had never

:42:30. > :42:34.been through the process either. Have you bver been mistake for

:42:34. > :42:38.somebody else? -- ever been mistaken for somebody else One of

:42:38. > :42:45.the girl's mum thought I was a gas man. They don't know who you are.

:42:45. > :42:49.What did she say? Oh, right. She was shocked. Shows like Call the

:42:49. > :42:59.Midwife, mean the profession is in the spotlight as perhaps never

:42:59. > :42:59.

:42:59. > :43:05.before, but men make up a tiny majority of midwives. You went to

:43:05. > :43:09.train as a nurse? Yeah. While you were training you loved mid-

:43:09. > :43:18.wievery? It appealed to me. There are more healthy women and I was

:43:18. > :43:24.interested. It was something different at that time. Caroline

:43:24. > :43:34.had a daughter nearly three weeks ago, called Isla. This is her first

:43:34. > :43:39.

:43:39. > :43:43.born. I'll have a wee check and get the scales. Sometimes you open the

:43:43. > :43:47.door and it's not always happy mums? No. Some mums have been up

:43:47. > :43:53.all night and feeding and it feels like they're at the end of their

:43:53. > :43:57.tether, but I just come in. I think sometimes they need a helper and

:43:57. > :44:03.helping with breast-feeding. You can sit down and they are frb often

:44:04. > :44:08.doing a good job. You tell David as much as you tell Mark? Probably

:44:08. > :44:12.more! Despite his day job, David's still very much a man's man after

:44:12. > :44:19.work. I like to go to the pub with my mates and out with the wife at

:44:19. > :44:24.the weekend and friends. I don't do anything different. I don't do

:44:24. > :44:29.anything different. I don't think differently, but when I go to work

:44:29. > :44:39.I switch on and when I feel protective to the people who I look

:44:39. > :44:44.

:44:45. > :44:53.David has certainly shown me that male midwives are just as effective

:44:53. > :45:03.and supportive as the now one's definitely. -- as a female ones.

:45:03. > :45:06.You have all given birth. Would you feel comfortable with a man? Mine

:45:07. > :45:12.were women. My daughter had a baby and I don't think she would have

:45:12. > :45:15.minded as long as she felt comfortable with the midwife.

:45:16. > :45:20.such an amazing experience, you don't really care who is there as

:45:20. > :45:25.long as the baby is delivered safely and you are in so much pain

:45:26. > :45:31.anyway, you just think, help me. is just important you feel

:45:31. > :45:36.comfortable with the person. We are getting inundated with people

:45:36. > :45:42.asking if there will be another TV series of Birds of a Feather.

:45:42. > :45:48.the moment, there is a script with the BBC, it was delivered last week.

:45:48. > :45:53.Fabulous. And at the moment we are waiting. There is the answer.

:45:53. > :45:58.is somewhere at the BBC. Maybe if the BBC don't want it, maybe

:45:58. > :46:04.someone else will. They all came along to Richmond when we did it

:46:04. > :46:11.last year and it was phenomenal. will watch this space and cross our

:46:11. > :46:16.fingers. A you had been busy doing your own

:46:16. > :46:21.separate projects as well. You did "I'm A Celebrity, Get Me Out Of

:46:21. > :46:25.Here!". I have watched it for the last 12 years. I did not do it last

:46:25. > :46:31.year because my daughter was pregnant but I thought, this year

:46:31. > :46:38.is my last year, I will be on his timber-frame any later. The first

:46:38. > :46:44.two days were so hard. You cannot believe you actually there. The

:46:44. > :46:48.creatures and the rats, everything you see, it is as awful as it seems.

:46:48. > :46:54.People think, you would give him food and drinks. What you see on

:46:54. > :46:58.the telly is what you get. After the third morning I thought, you

:46:58. > :47:04.know what? This ain't as bad as I thought it was going to be. We got

:47:04. > :47:12.on really well. We got on really well. Once I knew my kids were in

:47:12. > :47:20.Australia, I could not wait to get out! And that hotel was waiting as

:47:20. > :47:26.well. But I loved it and I have no regrets. Calendar Girls? Yes,

:47:26. > :47:30.stripping for the nation. It was wonderful. It is a bit like this,

:47:31. > :47:39.you all there together. Can I just say I was actually naked behind

:47:39. > :47:45.that as well. Yes, I was! I do not know why I chose to share that with

:47:45. > :47:51.everybody. I am so sorry. But it was an amazing experience. It was

:47:51. > :47:56.really invigorating. And a lot of money goes to cancer research. It

:47:56. > :48:01.is an amazing story and we met a Calendar Girls. I just absolutely

:48:01. > :48:07.loved it. And then I came to this. It is like doing two wonderful

:48:07. > :48:13.shows, it is bliss. You also have done a documentary about looking

:48:13. > :48:17.after the elderly. That was really tough but a lot of that money we

:48:17. > :48:24.raise money for on the elderly, maybe it resonates because of my

:48:24. > :48:28.mum. It was heartbreaking. I went into dementia hospital wards. It is

:48:28. > :48:32.really important that they get it out there. Some people say, like

:48:33. > :48:37.when they gave up smoking, it is terrible, and now nobody even

:48:37. > :48:43.thinks about it. It is like that with older people. We have got to

:48:43. > :48:50.get to a stage where we look after them. Very have got a message from

:48:50. > :48:59.two special people. Hello, Lesley. It is packed. I really enjoyed you

:48:59. > :49:02.You did everything from Malcolm. You got up in the night and we

:49:03. > :49:08.really did appreciate you been here but the highlight for me is when we

:49:08. > :49:13.went down the bingo, and I won. I know you wanted to win but it was

:49:13. > :49:17.my time. And with that money I went on a cruise and I thoroughly

:49:17. > :49:27.enjoyed it and it could not have happened without you. Thank you

:49:27. > :49:29.

:49:29. > :49:35.very much, darling. APPLAUSE. Sorry. That was the most

:49:35. > :49:40.extraordinary thing because we me when to bingo, she won �1,000.

:49:40. > :49:46.Everybody thought we had done it on purpose. It was a national game,

:49:46. > :49:51.you cannot state and national game, they would kill you! We were in at

:49:51. > :49:56.Dartford -- you cannot staged the national game. I said, you have

:49:56. > :50:05.won! They said, we have got a winner in Dartford. It was

:50:05. > :50:10.extraordinary. It was heartbreaking but wonderful. Bless you. And you

:50:10. > :50:15.said how nervous you get, which is incredible. You have done so many

:50:15. > :50:21.different productions. When we started the tour last year, I

:50:21. > :50:26.cannot tell you how it scared I was. I had not done theatre for 25 years.

:50:26. > :50:30.The girls have both done lots of the attack. It is just that are

:50:31. > :50:38.built up. Because Charlie was with me, I didn't want him to see what a

:50:38. > :50:48.state I can get myself into. So I gave myself a talking-to. It is

:50:48. > :50:55.healthy. Nothing wrong with a bit of an Airbus. -- a bit of nerves. A

:50:55. > :51:01.thin as we get out there, we love it. -- as soon as we get out there.

:51:02. > :51:08.The pressure is on now. No! We have got some old footage, a blast from

:51:08. > :51:11.the past. We will take you back to 1976 and we want to see if you can

:51:12. > :51:15.identify the man you were starring opposite.

:51:15. > :51:23.�1.50 and I will carry your shopping home. We cannot say fairer

:51:23. > :51:29.than that. You will do anything I want? Anything. I will have him.

:51:29. > :51:36.Lovely. I hope you will be satisfied. I can't wait until I get

:51:36. > :51:45.home. Basically, that lad with the chains around him, you chopped his

:51:45. > :51:51.head off with a magic trick,... All sorts of things. He is one of the

:51:51. > :52:01.four gentleman we have got in the studio. There he is! Don't spoil

:52:01. > :52:02.

:52:02. > :52:11.it! Is it number one? Number two? Number three, a feathered friend?

:52:11. > :52:18.Or number four? Who are you going for? You have got to know us.

:52:18. > :52:28.I have got my glasses on. Number two! Step forward, the real Mike

:52:28. > :52:29.

:52:29. > :52:35.Holoway! Did they really make you do all

:52:35. > :52:41.that? Thank you. How lovely to see you. I know everybody says you

:52:41. > :52:45.haven't aged but you really haven't. What a lovely looking lad! It was

:52:45. > :52:50.extraordinary. I signed up to be a singer and drummer of a pop band

:52:50. > :52:56.and they threw everything including the kitchen sink at me. Are you

:52:56. > :53:05.still traumatised? At that age! can't believe a word of it. Good to

:53:05. > :53:13.see you. Good luck to you. Many of you will know how to take a

:53:13. > :53:17.panoramic photo on your phone. We took one only yet on in the studio.

:53:17. > :53:24.-- A earlier. But back up the BT Tower, Jamie Crawford's doing a

:53:24. > :53:29.supersize one. At the BT Tower what, we we started

:53:29. > :53:34.the 1960s revolution, and captured a time-lapse of London by night.

:53:34. > :53:40.And by stitching together the shots, we have made a 360 degree panorama

:53:40. > :53:44.far wider than can be achieved in just one shot or stop but I am not

:53:44. > :53:49.the only one to spot but how will's unique photographic potential

:53:49. > :53:55.because a team of specialist photographers are setting out to

:53:55. > :54:00.create the most detailed panoramic image of his city ever made.

:54:00. > :54:04.were asked to create the largest photo in the world. I thought the

:54:04. > :54:11.BT Tower will would be a perfect location for that because it is

:54:11. > :54:15.like a giant tripod. And on that tripod, four computerised cameras

:54:15. > :54:22.will snap a grid of images which will make up one-quarter of the

:54:22. > :54:30.Panorama. 160 pictures across by 76 pictures in increments. It will

:54:30. > :54:35.take more than 12,000 pictures on each position. Nearly 50,000 photos.

:54:35. > :54:38.It is a process that will take over an hour and in theory, in that time

:54:38. > :54:43.a single person could be photographed multiple times in

:54:43. > :54:49.different places across the city, so detests the resolution of the

:54:49. > :54:54.final image, we are dispatching our One Show target-man on a mission to

:54:54. > :55:00.try to appear, first nearby the BT Tower and then to race the cameras

:55:00. > :55:04.across London to another landmark two miles away. The building that

:55:04. > :55:10.before the BT Tower was billed was the nation's tallest, St Paul's

:55:10. > :55:13.cathedrals all-star the race is on. The team must take all of the

:55:13. > :55:18.50,000 photographs they need before the light will have changed too

:55:18. > :55:23.much for the shots to match. If they can do this, their final image

:55:23. > :55:33.will be so detailed that my own effort would sit inside there's

:55:33. > :55:33.

:55:33. > :55:37.5,000 times of. Our man reached St Paul's just in time. This reveals

:55:37. > :55:43.the full extent of the most detailed photographs of the city

:55:43. > :55:48.ever taken. I can't wait to see this.

:55:48. > :55:58.We are now going to look at the whole thing in the studio.

:55:58. > :55:59.

:55:59. > :56:09.Hang on! We have gone wonky! Look Absolutely extraordinary.

:56:09. > :56:11.

:56:11. > :56:18.We have got Geoffrey Martin. This is a small version of what you can

:56:18. > :56:23.produce. The full-size would be 93 metres long and 20 metres tall.

:56:23. > :56:29.With that detail. And this was commissioned for a particular event

:56:29. > :56:32.but it took a bit longer to do then you anticipated. Right. It took

:56:32. > :56:42.over three months to put it together. It was supposed to take

:56:42. > :56:42.

:56:42. > :56:49.As we know, this is the world's largest Panorama. That's right.

:56:49. > :56:58.Which are the ones have you done? did one previously of London. And

:56:58. > :57:08.another one of Prague,... How does that relate to a normal photo?

:57:08. > :57:13.

:57:13. > :57:23.is made of 48,000 individual photos. We have got Simon over here for

:57:23. > :57:24.

:57:24. > :57:30.Simon Rodway is a London tour guide. Over here we have to One Show! That

:57:30. > :57:40.is television centre. Of course, the BBC is coming back to its old

:57:40. > :57:48.

:57:48. > :57:53.This is Regent Street. You can just make up the famous round Church.

:57:54. > :57:58.How nice for you to be flying all over this of. And coming down here,

:57:58. > :58:08.Fitz Roy via, fantastic. You have this, this is the old Middlesex

:58:08. > :58:10.

:58:10. > :58:20.Hospital. To walk round that, we have a big fence. Brilliant.

:58:20. > :58:23.

:58:23. > :58:33.asked rig your photo of your Steph and Maddie. Best friends as

:58:33. > :58:37.

:58:37. > :58:40.well as neighbours Foster. Abigail and Cheryl Cole Thanks to

:58:40. > :58:43.Pauline, Linda and Lesley, and the Birds of a Feather tour starts in

:58:43. > :58:45.Coventry next Tuesday. Tomorrow we'll be joined by the man with a