0:00:15 > 0:00:18Hello and welcome to The One Show with Alex Jones.
0:00:18 > 0:00:20And Matt Baker.
0:00:20 > 0:00:23We've two fellas making their debuts on the show tonight,
0:00:23 > 0:00:25lovely guys by all accounts.
0:00:25 > 0:00:33It's just that something seems to happen when the camera turns on.
0:00:39 > 0:00:48And this is England.You are not bringing that thing in here.Want to
0:00:48 > 0:00:50see if I've got the minerals?
0:00:50 > 0:00:52Looking much more chilled out tonight -
0:00:52 > 0:00:57it's Stephen Graham and Lennie James!
0:00:58 > 0:00:58APPLAUSE
0:00:58 > 0:01:02APPLAUSE.
0:01:02 > 0:01:04Lennie, Stephen told us he calls you Uncle Lennie,
0:01:04 > 0:01:08so you must have a softer side?
0:01:08 > 0:01:16I don't even know where it came from.Your a few years older than
0:01:16 > 0:01:23me, it's just your general demeanour.I'm an old man!Note, you
0:01:23 > 0:01:31are loving, extremely sensitive and someone you can rely on.Who are you
0:01:31 > 0:01:40and what have you done with Stephen Graham? I tell everyone he calls me
0:01:40 > 0:01:45uncle Lennie, a good mate.We are getting a flavour of you because
0:01:45 > 0:01:53that's what we are used to. How far from the tough persona are you?
0:01:53 > 0:01:59Extremely, I'd like to say.I have seen you on CBeebies doing the
0:01:59 > 0:02:06bedtime stories!Yes, I loved doing CBeebies. I'm completely different
0:02:06 > 0:02:14to the characters I play.What is the story behind this?The story
0:02:14 > 0:02:23behind that is my wife, Hannah. It is her fault.Why?Because she
0:02:23 > 0:02:27thought it would be a good idea for me to do it and generally anything
0:02:27 > 0:02:34she says I do. It's about showing another side to me I suppose.We're
0:02:34 > 0:02:41going to keep you nice and relaxed tonight, which is the idea.
0:02:41 > 0:02:44But just how relaxed would you feel if you had to drastically cut
0:02:44 > 0:02:45down your use of plastic?
0:02:45 > 0:02:48Today's news that plastic particles have been found in three quarters
0:02:48 > 0:02:50of deep ocean fish reminds us what a critical point
0:02:50 > 0:02:51we have reached.
0:02:51 > 0:02:53No wonder so many families are trying their best
0:02:53 > 0:03:00to find alternatives.
0:03:00 > 0:03:06The Proud family from Manchester all have hectic lives. But mum Louise,
0:03:06 > 0:03:11dad Wayne and daughters 15-year-old Macy and 11-year-old Amber found
0:03:11 > 0:03:18time to take on the challenge close to my heart. Are you ready to go
0:03:18 > 0:03:23plastic free? I want them to reduce their single use disposable plastic
0:03:23 > 0:03:27consumption for a whole week and record how they get on with video
0:03:27 > 0:03:32diaries. But first I want to find out how much plastic they currently
0:03:32 > 0:03:37use.When I cook a meal it is just a load of plastic so I've been
0:03:37 > 0:03:47shopping today and
0:03:47 > 0:03:50shopping today and everything is in plastic bottles. Everything is just
0:03:50 > 0:03:53in plastic, and it is concerning. Like most families they don't feel
0:03:53 > 0:03:56they have a choice to use plastic. Dad Wayne is in charge of the
0:03:56 > 0:04:01recycling. But not all plastic is easily recycled. Can I look in the
0:04:01 > 0:04:09rubbish bin?If you must!We have this flimsy plastic here. When is
0:04:09 > 0:04:18this from?Today.And it isn't just at home...We get milk in plastic
0:04:18 > 0:04:22bottles with straws in them and every day we throw them in the
0:04:22 > 0:04:30rubbish bin.I'm interested in personal care products, moisturiser,
0:04:30 > 0:04:36shampoo...Make up wipes.Make up wipes are woven together with
0:04:36 > 0:04:39plastic. What's wrong with a flannel?
0:04:39 > 0:04:46So can they go without single use plastic for a whole week or is it
0:04:46 > 0:04:51just too convenient? They begin the week with some success.Instead of
0:04:51 > 0:04:59using face wipes I am using a flannel.And Louise ditches her
0:04:59 > 0:05:07plastic plate... But at the supermarket reality hits.All
0:05:07 > 0:05:13plastic, I haven't got to anything yet that hasn't got plastic on it.
0:05:13 > 0:05:17Midweek and the cupboards become bare so Wayne takes the kids food
0:05:17 > 0:05:22shopping. This time he ditches the supermarket in favour of a shop in
0:05:22 > 0:05:27Bolton selling produce without plastic packaging.Do we just put
0:05:27 > 0:05:34everything in the basket?If you are happy to, we would love that.
0:05:34 > 0:05:39There's paper bags for loose items. After visiting the bakers and
0:05:39 > 0:05:44butchers they are still plastic free but it's not as convenient as the
0:05:44 > 0:05:48supermarket.We have done quite a few miles and nearly three hours.
0:05:48 > 0:05:53Today the girls went into the shop to buy carrots like this, which they
0:05:53 > 0:05:59were very excited about. It is bizarre in this day the kids are
0:05:59 > 0:06:03excited to buy vegetables that is not packaged.The children are so
0:06:03 > 0:06:12excited, Amber
0:06:12 > 0:06:14excited, Amber decides to tackle the problem of plastic milk bottles and
0:06:14 > 0:06:17straws at her school.What I would like to think about is how we can
0:06:17 > 0:06:20use other things.Raise your hands now if you are for Amber's idea.
0:06:20 > 0:06:26Fantastic. It will be our job to make sure it is implemented.Macy
0:06:26 > 0:06:33checks her parents are still toeing the line.What do you think you are
0:06:33 > 0:06:41doing there?And cleaning.With plastics?Yes, but it is reusable.
0:06:41 > 0:06:48The other day I got the bleach bottle, filled it up to there and
0:06:48 > 0:06:58with water.But has she caught dad out?What is all of this plastic?
0:06:58 > 0:07:05Pineapple!No, what is this?There was no other choice than what was
0:07:05 > 0:07:11there. It is difficult to get meet that isn't in plastic from the
0:07:11 > 0:07:17supermarket.Experiment over but what impact has it hard? I'm back to
0:07:17 > 0:07:22find out. I'm seeing more glass and tins, less plastic but not a huge
0:07:22 > 0:07:31reduction. How has it been?Hard, I have been dreaming about plastic!
0:07:31 > 0:07:40Has this week been more expensive? From what to what?We normally spend
0:07:40 > 0:07:46about £100, I think it has been 120. He wouldn't have been able to do
0:07:46 > 0:07:51this challenge if you shopped in the supermarkets where you normally
0:07:51 > 0:07:56shop, it wouldn't have worked, would it?No, they have addressed plastic
0:07:56 > 0:07:59bags, now they need to address plastic in the store.
0:07:59 > 0:08:04So Louise, Wayne, Macy and Amber, welcome.
0:08:04 > 0:08:10That was brilliant. As Lucy said, it is because the supermarket, it is
0:08:10 > 0:08:14very difficult because everything comes in packaging. You drove three
0:08:14 > 0:08:19hours and all you got was a dirty carrot which is fine but it's not
0:08:19 > 0:08:25sustainable on a day-to-day basis for a family like you so what needs
0:08:25 > 0:08:30to be done to make this easier for everybody?We need to get that of
0:08:30 > 0:08:34plastic basically out of the supermarkets. It's everywhere so you
0:08:34 > 0:08:44need to reduce it massively. Everywhere you go to is plastic.
0:08:44 > 0:08:48Lucy basically went through your whole house so as far as the
0:08:48 > 0:08:52categories are concerned, beauty products and whatever, what was the
0:08:52 > 0:08:59hardest area to cut back on? You think food?For me, make up products
0:08:59 > 0:09:02because I couldn't find any that didn't contain a small bit of
0:09:02 > 0:09:08plastic. It maybe a glass bottle but it still had a plastic lid.Have you
0:09:08 > 0:09:16looked at websites where you can buy make up products that are in
0:09:16 > 0:09:20recyclable stuff.I have looked at it but I don't know if I'm willing
0:09:20 > 0:09:25to pay that much to get a plastic bottle that is recyclable.Fair
0:09:25 > 0:09:31enough.Amber, we saw you with your school friends so what have your
0:09:31 > 0:09:35school teachers said to you?We are trying to change it and make a
0:09:35 > 0:09:41difference on how we are using milk because the plastic, it's the
0:09:41 > 0:09:45plastic lids and the straws that are bad but we are trying to replace
0:09:45 > 0:09:49them and figure out a way we can do it, getting in touch with the milk
0:09:49 > 0:09:54company.Good, because everyone in your class was on board, weren't
0:09:54 > 0:09:58they? You were talking about meat saying that the hardest thing to
0:09:58 > 0:10:04come by that is not in plastic but as a family are you going to stick
0:10:04 > 0:10:12with this?Definitely.I'm dreaming about plastic. I have got my own
0:10:12 > 0:10:18back we make now, we enjoyed making those. I've got my straws, we need
0:10:18 > 0:10:23to change straws from plastic to paper, that's a big one for me so
0:10:23 > 0:10:28I'm on a mission.Maisie, you must be noticing plastic everywhere right
0:10:28 > 0:10:34now.Literally everywhere. School, everywhere. It is hard when you go
0:10:34 > 0:10:39into shock and not just see plastic, getting a snack or bottle of water,
0:10:39 > 0:10:44you have to check everything to see if it is recyclable.And obviously
0:10:44 > 0:10:52you don't want to be continuing when you are mum's age. It has to stop.
0:10:52 > 0:10:56Yes because in the future I see a future where people don't care any
0:10:56 > 0:11:02more. Plastic will be in the oceans, we will have less fish and my
0:11:02 > 0:11:05children won't understand what it's like not to have a world full of
0:11:05 > 0:11:12plastic and I don't agree with it. We could change it so
0:11:13 > 0:11:16We could change it so easily, even changing bins around streets not
0:11:16 > 0:11:23just a general waste but recyclable ones as well as general waste.Do
0:11:23 > 0:11:29you want to go and work with the Lucy?That was so eloquently said
0:11:29 > 0:11:37and you should be proud.The pair of them have done amazing.That was
0:11:37 > 0:11:41cracking the way you put that.We are in the hands of the next
0:11:41 > 0:11:47generation, that's what we need, definitely.
0:11:48 > 0:11:50definitely. The congratulations are going to continue now.
0:11:50 > 0:11:53We've got to say congratulations to League One's Wigan,
0:11:53 > 0:11:56who knocked Manchester City out of the FA Cup last night in a real
0:11:56 > 0:11:57old-fashioned giant killing.
0:11:57 > 0:12:00The winner was scored by Will Grigg, a man who's been
0:12:00 > 0:12:03immortalised in song.
0:12:14 > 0:12:19COMMENTATOR: A lot of people would have known the song better than they
0:12:19 > 0:12:23knew his face!Free from desire, that was the song.
0:12:23 > 0:12:25Football chants have a mixed history with some spreading racial
0:12:25 > 0:12:26and religious bigotry.
0:12:26 > 0:12:28Which is why what's happening in Liverpool
0:12:28 > 0:12:29at the moment is so interesting.
0:12:29 > 0:12:33Here's Mehreen.
0:12:33 > 0:12:37Here at Anfield, football is worshipped like a religion and the
0:12:37 > 0:12:44stadium is its cathedral. There are lots of songs sung on the terraces,
0:12:44 > 0:12:53but a recent one is uncharacteristically different. It
0:12:53 > 0:13:02is catchy and in honour of Egyptian international Mohammed Salah, and it
0:13:02 > 0:13:06has gone viral. It not only embraces the man for his talents on the field
0:13:06 > 0:13:13but also for his religion. Football has had problems with sectarian and
0:13:13 > 0:13:19racist chanting but this song is the complete opposite. Have you heard
0:13:19 > 0:13:26the new football chant about Salah? Yes, we have.What do you think
0:13:26 > 0:13:31about it?We think it's positive because we are not racist people.
0:13:31 > 0:13:39What was your reaction when you first heard it?A bit shocked. It is
0:13:39 > 0:13:43quite sensitive thing, quite a personal thing to be just thrown
0:13:43 > 0:13:49around like that.I saw it and I was like here we go again, another
0:13:49 > 0:13:53controversial chant but they are just adding the word in for shock
0:13:53 > 0:13:58value. They could have just said I will become a footballer too.As
0:13:58 > 0:14:05long as he's a red, that's all we care about.Supporters can loosen up
0:14:05 > 0:14:10their vocal chords before a match here on Anfield Road.When you are
0:14:10 > 0:14:13hearing it, you cannot stop singing it and when you go to bed you can't
0:14:13 > 0:14:19get to sleep because it is in your head, just singing it all the time.
0:14:19 > 0:14:24It's great!What do you think about including religion in songs at
0:14:24 > 0:14:28football games?If it brings faiths together it has got to be a good
0:14:28 > 0:14:37thing.It's not a fan base, it is a family. Whether you are white,
0:14:37 > 0:14:43black, Asian, African, Caribbean, whatever.Adopted Scouser Adam is a
0:14:43 > 0:14:48Muslim chaplain who loves the song and the message it sends out.I was
0:14:48 > 0:14:55chanting it myself...
0:14:55 > 0:14:58# If he's good enough for you, he's good enough for me
0:14:58 > 0:15:01# If he scores another few then I'll be Muslim too
0:15:01 > 0:15:04# If he's good enough for you, he's good enough for me
0:15:04 > 0:15:07# He's sitting in a mosque, that's where I want to be.
0:15:07 > 0:15:09Usually you expect negative things but on this occasion it has been
0:15:09 > 0:15:12positive. What's especially pleasing to me is the words they chose to
0:15:12 > 0:15:19use. You think thank God, finally, the person's religion is being
0:15:19 > 0:15:23mentioned as a positive aspects. It really made me smile.
0:15:23 > 0:15:29# If he's good enough for you, he's good enough for me.
0:15:29 > 0:15:33# If he's sitting in the mosque, that's where I want to be. I'm
0:15:33 > 0:15:39tempted to go to Anfield and join in the chanting.
0:15:39 > 0:15:43And well, watching that would interest, Stephen, you are a
0:15:43 > 0:15:47lifelong Liverpool fan and you said are you we going to show the picture
0:15:47 > 0:15:52and the answer is yes! There you are aged six. Have you heard this song
0:15:52 > 0:15:57before, are you familiar with it, what you saw there?No, I don't
0:15:57 > 0:16:02really get a chance to go to many Liverpool games but I heard it early
0:16:02 > 0:16:04on and I think of that is not integration, then I don't know what
0:16:04 > 0:16:16is. It's got that bit of humour about it but it is with great
0:16:16 > 0:16:19intent.It's everything that is good about being in the stands at a
0:16:19 > 0:16:21football game. It's got all the sense of humour, it's inclusive and
0:16:21 > 0:16:24it's a group of people who probably wouldn't have much to say to each
0:16:24 > 0:16:27other on a day-to-day basis but when they are all stood together cheering
0:16:27 > 0:16:32their team, it is the same bond, it is the reason I go to football. And
0:16:32 > 0:16:38Harry Kane. Moussa Dembele.Your roots are in south London, Lennie,
0:16:38 > 0:16:43is that what you based your new drama you have written and starred
0:16:43 > 0:16:47in, Save Me, there?It is. It is weird because when I was writing the
0:16:47 > 0:16:50first three episodes, I was in America writing them but when the
0:16:50 > 0:16:57idea came, it was always an idea I was going to set in London. I am a
0:16:57 > 0:16:59south-west London boy and this is set in south-east London button
0:16:59 > 0:17:04area, New Cross and Deptford, where I spent a lot of time, because I had
0:17:04 > 0:17:09family there and I wanted to write a thriller and I wanted to set it
0:17:09 > 0:17:16someplace that thrillers aren't normally set and I wanted it to be
0:17:16 > 0:17:19populated by people who want usually included in the telling of a
0:17:19 > 0:17:22thriller.He said you came up with the idea of it, it is about a
0:17:22 > 0:17:25missing child but actually much more of that, so what is the core of the
0:17:25 > 0:17:30idea and what are you trying to tell with it?It is a thriller but also
0:17:30 > 0:17:34the story of redemption and it is a kind of tale of the price of
0:17:34 > 0:17:39redemption, because the main character is a man who is accused of
0:17:39 > 0:17:43abducting his daughter and he sets out to prove his innocence but also
0:17:43 > 0:17:48to find the person who took there, because the person who took her
0:17:48 > 0:17:52pretended to be him so he sets out on this almost impossible mission
0:17:52 > 0:17:57and the story is about the affect it has on him, the effect it has on his
0:17:57 > 0:18:01immediate friends because whoever took her is someone who knew a lot
0:18:01 > 0:18:04about Nelly and finally the effect it has on the community and the
0:18:04 > 0:18:09effect it has on his relationship with the mother of his daughter.
0:18:09 > 0:18:12They haven't seen each other the 10-year sandbelt brought back
0:18:12 > 0:18:16together for this rather sad thing. It is a very strong cast and
0:18:16 > 0:18:23Stephen, at the beginning, you play your pub made, in a sense. What
0:18:23 > 0:18:28gripped you about the script?It was the complexity of the characters.
0:18:28 > 0:18:32For me, it's very much an ensemble. Obviously, you have a main character
0:18:32 > 0:18:37who the story is about but there are no small characters, each character
0:18:37 > 0:18:41is completely integral and what really gripped me was the thriller
0:18:41 > 0:18:44aspect to it, Gena what I mean? You want to know what happening, you
0:18:44 > 0:18:50want to know where she is but a longer journey, you also find out...
0:18:50 > 0:18:54You get a look behind the closed doors of the people on this estate
0:18:54 > 0:18:59and juicy snippet of their lives. And predominantly, without being
0:18:59 > 0:19:04horrible in any way, shape or form, most of the things that we see which
0:19:04 > 0:19:07represent those kinds of people are these people on the dole or these
0:19:07 > 0:19:13different kind of factual documentaries that we see, these
0:19:13 > 0:19:16real life stories where cameras following these people and it is
0:19:16 > 0:19:23also Rangers this and benefits that and that's not the way it is -- all
0:19:23 > 0:19:26scroungers this.You talked about the cast, Sue rang Jones stars as
0:19:26 > 0:19:33your daughter's mother. We will talk about the tense reunion -- see the
0:19:33 > 0:19:40tense reunion.Why are you here?You think this could be me.Please give
0:19:40 > 0:19:50her back.How? How could this be me? It could be. And don't you come here
0:19:50 > 0:19:54like that like I don't know you, because I know you.100 years ago,
0:19:54 > 0:20:01maybe.It is still you.It must be... Is it daunting when you are
0:20:01 > 0:20:04writing this stuff, you are starring in this thing and you have all of
0:20:04 > 0:20:08these people effectively working on your baby, how have you taken to
0:20:08 > 0:20:14that than what is it like in that situation?I'll tell you, like, when
0:20:14 > 0:20:18for example someone suggested Stephen for one of the characters,
0:20:18 > 0:20:22we will never get Stephen, he will never come, even though he calls me
0:20:22 > 0:20:27Uncle Lennie and Stephen said yes and Suranne said yes and Jason
0:20:27 > 0:20:31Fleming said yes and we had a fantastic director in Nick Murphy
0:20:31 > 0:20:35and when everybody comes to it, you think I must have done something
0:20:35 > 0:20:39right and you take confidence from that and it is a really weird thing
0:20:39 > 0:20:44when you walk into work on the first day and there are 100, 120 people
0:20:44 > 0:20:48working all because of you sat in a room writing things on your
0:20:48 > 0:20:53computer. And it is a really good feeling and after that, it was just
0:20:53 > 0:20:56gravy, everyone came in, wanted to work, enjoying what they were doing
0:20:56 > 0:21:01and we had a really good time in south-east London for about three
0:21:01 > 0:21:05months.We enjoyed it immensely, didn't we?
0:21:05 > 0:21:08Now, like many seaside towns, Aberystwyth is home to a nightly
0:21:08 > 0:21:11phenomenon which is either an attraction or a curse depending on
0:21:11 > 0:21:17your point of view. And it starts just before dusk.
0:21:17 > 0:21:23You see them arriving in October in a few small groups around the town.
0:21:23 > 0:21:30Mainly for me, it is hood up and run up the prom!You see this fantastic
0:21:30 > 0:21:34spectacle and then you get the smell.And that is when I start to
0:21:34 > 0:21:39get a bit twitchy.
0:21:39 > 0:21:44get a bit twitchy.I was a student at Aberystwyth University and people
0:21:44 > 0:21:49on the pier were looking for staff. 22 years later, I am the general
0:21:49 > 0:21:54manager.I used to come to the pier, to the nightclub, when I was a
0:21:54 > 0:21:59teenager and now, still, we come here for a night out.It is a
0:21:59 > 0:22:04special place, it is difficult to beat.I have been photographing now
0:22:04 > 0:22:13since 1980. I do have an obsession about the starlings in Aberystwyth.
0:22:13 > 0:22:17Every day, between October and March, I have to be here. I can't
0:22:17 > 0:22:23not come and see the starlings. Thinking back to when I first
0:22:23 > 0:22:27started, I guess I didn't take much notice of the starlings, it was just
0:22:27 > 0:22:32winter is here and here come the starlings and how many will there be
0:22:32 > 0:22:36this year?Oh, the starlings. We do enjoy watching them, but mainly from
0:22:36 > 0:22:42inside.We have a number of paying customers and then we have our
0:22:42 > 0:22:48feathered freeloaders.The starlings arrive about half an hour before
0:22:48 > 0:22:55sunset.I refer to them as having little squadrons coming in.They
0:22:55 > 0:22:59start flying above the pier and then more groups will join them.There
0:22:59 > 0:23:07must be tens of thousands of them. There are too many. They would
0:23:07 > 0:23:11pebble dashed appear. You would people walking down the street and
0:23:11 > 0:23:16think they were being attacked by machine guns -- pebble dash the
0:23:16 > 0:23:21pier. All of this coming from the sky!The timing is usually as we are
0:23:21 > 0:23:26walking to the pier after work and they are all coming in at the same
0:23:26 > 0:23:33time.It is just that sheer magical daily ritual that entrances me.It
0:23:33 > 0:23:39would just be crusty blanket art heard you would have to clear.
0:23:39 > 0:23:45Wouldn't anyone have a tiny problem up that -- crusty blanket of of
0:23:45 > 0:23:52turd.It is lovely to watch, but from inside.The attempted methods
0:23:52 > 0:23:55to determine the starlings roosting under the pier, one was flood
0:23:55 > 0:24:01lights, a case of they may not sleep but all the lie to did we show them
0:24:01 > 0:24:07the very best roosting places.Which is a genuinely awesome experience.
0:24:07 > 0:24:10Gross carers, that was another failed attempt. Hosepipes with holes
0:24:10 > 0:24:17into sprinkle them was a nonstarter. It is hypnotising on all sorts of
0:24:17 > 0:24:21levels.We zigzagged a yellow tape on the pier and the starlings would
0:24:21 > 0:24:24have it a wide berth but then we fielded a few phone calls from
0:24:24 > 0:24:29anxious members of the public asking if the end of the pier was going to
0:24:29 > 0:24:33fall off.In the rain, in the snow, in the gales, any sort of weather,
0:24:33 > 0:24:43you will find them. I am doing it all the time, obsessively.
0:24:44 > 0:24:48We are no longer battling the starlings. You are not going to stop
0:24:48 > 0:24:54them, you have actually just got to embrace them.They are one of the
0:24:54 > 0:24:58major attractions of Aberystwyth. There are very few urban starling
0:24:58 > 0:25:03murmuration is in the UK, where you can be in amongst the starlings as
0:25:03 > 0:25:10they fly around.
0:25:12 > 0:25:15People travel a long, long way to view these murmuration is because
0:25:15 > 0:25:23they are incredible.The mesmerising pattern of these birds as they fly
0:25:23 > 0:25:27in murmurations is a genuinely awesome experience and I couldn't be
0:25:27 > 0:25:33happier.
0:25:33 > 0:25:40We are all mesmerised, we are still talking about murmurations.I
0:25:40 > 0:25:43remember my nightclub days in the pier and when you use to dance, the
0:25:43 > 0:25:49floor would go up and down.Well, we will talk more about your work
0:25:49 > 0:25:52because you are both stars of two massive TV shows out there, these
0:25:52 > 0:25:58box sets that people download. Is it all right to talk about Boardwalk
0:25:58 > 0:26:02Empire? Stephen, how you got into it in the first place, because this is
0:26:02 > 0:26:06a big American production.Yes, it was kind of strange, I didn't have
0:26:06 > 0:26:12much work going at time and that is how it can be, bit of a lonely place
0:26:12 > 0:26:17and all of a sudden this phone call came from nowhere and it was my
0:26:17 > 0:26:22manager in America and he asked me would I be in to take a call from
0:26:22 > 0:26:27Martin Scorsese's office.You should have said, no, I'm not interested.
0:26:27 > 0:26:31I'm busy! And I said of course and he phoned back 20 minutes later and
0:26:31 > 0:26:36it was Marty on the phone and he said, what are you doing? Not much
0:26:36 > 0:26:41at the minute. How have you been? I said I am good, because I had worked
0:26:41 > 0:26:46with him on Gangs Of New York and he said I have this thing for you, we
0:26:46 > 0:26:50start in two months so I will send you all the stuff out and I'm sure
0:26:50 > 0:26:56you would like to be interested and I was like, yeah, OK. And he went,
0:26:56 > 0:27:01oh, you are playing Al Capone, I'll see you in a couple of months.
0:27:01 > 0:27:06Cheers, Marty, bye-bye! And I thought, what was that? I have no
0:27:06 > 0:27:10idea, I think he wants the to play Al Capone!
0:27:10 > 0:27:15Well, what a role, especially those who have played before it, and
0:27:15 > 0:27:19coming from Martin Scorsese. And you, Lennie, you are in the huge
0:27:19 > 0:27:22international hit The Walking Dead and didn't you have this bizarre
0:27:22 > 0:27:25experience when you are filming? Because you are not one of the
0:27:25 > 0:27:32zombies.No, I'm not, not yet, anyway!Spoiler!I think you are
0:27:32 > 0:27:36talking about when I came back in season three, because I did the
0:27:36 > 0:27:39first-ever episode and I was gone to seasons and when I came back, they
0:27:39 > 0:27:45wanted to keep it secret. We shoot in Atlanta, about 50 minutes outside
0:27:45 > 0:27:51of Atlanta but they stuck me an hour and a half outside of Atlanta Noonan
0:27:51 > 0:27:56and I stayed in a bed-and-breakfast and the people who ran it had to
0:27:56 > 0:27:58sign a confidentiality agreement promised they would wouldn't tell
0:27:58 > 0:28:02anyone I was staying with them and their guests who were staying at the
0:28:02 > 0:28:07B and B had to sign confidentially agreement to say they wouldn't tell
0:28:07 > 0:28:10anyone I was staying there and when I went back and forward to set, I
0:28:10 > 0:28:14had to go in a van with blacked out windows.Did anybody find out from
0:28:14 > 0:28:19the cast?There are websites, their whole job is to find spoilers for
0:28:19 > 0:28:25The Walking Dead. I think there is one called Boiling Dead and that is
0:28:25 > 0:28:29all they do so when I went outside during takes, they would have this
0:28:29 > 0:28:35screen and is poor guy would have to walk around hiding me. I was like,
0:28:35 > 0:28:39surely this is not necessary?That is where we will finish, thank you
0:28:39 > 0:28:43Poko and please come back and see us again. A round of applause for
0:28:43 > 0:28:50everybody. Both series available on Sky Atlantic and Now TV -- saved me
0:28:50 > 0:28:52it available. We will be backward Elke Brooks and
0:28:52 > 0:28:55the launch of my Mother of All Challenges Sport Relief and we will
0:28:55 > 0:28:59have these guys. Good night.