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:00:27. > :00:42.# But I know we'll meet again some sunny day

:00:43. > :01:05.# Till the blue skies chase Those dark clouds far away.

:01:06. > :01:13.APPLAUSE. Hello and welcome to The One Show

:01:14. > :01:20.with Michelle Ackerley. And Matt Baker, and a huge thank you to

:01:21. > :01:28.Katherine Jenkins! Beautiful as ever. Lovely to see you. Someone

:01:29. > :01:35.whose voice was as much a part of World War II as Winston Churchill's,

:01:36. > :01:40.you were singing in honour of. We are talking about Dame Vera Lynn.

:01:41. > :01:44.You performed that song with Dame Vera Lynn for the 60th anniversary

:01:45. > :01:48.of VE Day. That was when you were dubbed the new forces sweetheart.

:01:49. > :01:53.What are your memories of that day? It was such a special moment. I was

:01:54. > :01:58.asked to close the show by singing We'll Meet Again in Trafalgar

:01:59. > :02:01.Square. She was interviewed before the finale and she was at the back

:02:02. > :02:08.of the stage. I remember looking out as I went to sing it and thinking,

:02:09. > :02:14.this is all wrong. Why is Dame Vera not at the front of the stage? It is

:02:15. > :02:20.her song. You have had quite a connection with her, because you

:02:21. > :02:24.sang at her 90th birthday. It feels like yesterday was her 90th

:02:25. > :02:28.birthday. She has always been such an inspiration to me. It was at

:02:29. > :02:31.Trafalgar Square where we talked after that showed that she persuaded

:02:32. > :02:36.me to go out to Iraq for the first time. So all my links with the

:02:37. > :02:41.forces were because I was inspired by her and her stories. Well, Dan

:02:42. > :02:44.Snow will be leading our own spectacular solo version of Dame

:02:45. > :02:48.Vera's 100th birthday when he helps to project one of her classic

:02:49. > :02:52.performances onto the White Cliffs of Dover. So if you would love to

:02:53. > :02:55.wish Dame Vera a happy birthday today and you have a picture of the

:02:56. > :03:01.two of you together, please send them in. And it is not just about

:03:02. > :03:07.Dame Vera tonight. We will be talking about Katherine's new show,

:03:08. > :03:12.plus Sara Cox and Javone Prince tell us why we should dig deep for Comic

:03:13. > :03:16.Relief. It is a busy show. Now, another person who has been digging

:03:17. > :03:22.deep, unfortunately into other people's rockets. Here is nick.

:03:23. > :03:33.It was when we needed money that he would pray honours. It was scary.

:03:34. > :03:37.Upsetting. -Ness. -- yeah. They have traditionally been thought of as

:03:38. > :03:41.villains in a murky underworld, but don't be fooled. Last year, over

:03:42. > :03:49.300,000 households fell victim to loan sharks. When times get tough,

:03:50. > :03:53.demands for quick cash bring with them a surge in legal moneylending,

:03:54. > :03:57.but with extortionate rates of interest and threats of violence,

:03:58. > :04:04.these loans are costing people dear. Like victims of loan shark Lynn

:04:05. > :04:07.Davis from Neath in South Wales. The 58-year-old led thousands of pounds,

:04:08. > :04:14.charging massive repayment rates, and used intimidation to claw back

:04:15. > :04:18.his cash. Two of his victims have bravely agreed to talk to the One

:04:19. > :04:23.Show. We have disguised their identities to ensure their safety. I

:04:24. > :04:26.thought he was a friend in the beginning, and things went from

:04:27. > :04:30.there. He knew he could make money off us. We missed out on food

:04:31. > :04:37.sometimes struggled with gas and electric to make sure he got his

:04:38. > :04:42.money. He lent us ?1000, but woodchuck ?800 on top. We were just

:04:43. > :04:47.paying every week. And when we didn't have the money, he would get

:04:48. > :04:51.aggressive. The frighteningly high interest rates charged by loan

:04:52. > :04:55.sharks are shocking, but it is not those mind-boggling percentages that

:04:56. > :04:58.are illegal, it is the fact that they are loaning money without a

:04:59. > :05:04.licence that puts them on the wrong side of the law. Steve Gray is

:05:05. > :05:07.investigations manager at the illegal moneylending unit here in

:05:08. > :05:12.Cardiff, a task force set up to bite back at loan sharks. In front of us,

:05:13. > :05:18.we have some of the tools of the trade we have come across during

:05:19. > :05:22.searches. They are clearly intimidating weapons. That access

:05:23. > :05:29.from a case where someone turned up the person's house late in the

:05:30. > :05:33.evening and arrived with that. How do people find themselves borrowing

:05:34. > :05:36.money from a loan shark in the first place? It can be a simple financial

:05:37. > :05:39.crisis if you want a pair of shoes because the kids are going back to

:05:40. > :05:43.school or your washing machine breaks down. If you are in a

:05:44. > :05:48.position where you can't satisfy traditional lenders with your

:05:49. > :05:51.creditworthiness, there is nowhere else to go sometimes. The real thing

:05:52. > :05:56.the loan shark is after is not lend you 100 quid and have 200 quid back

:05:57. > :06:00.next week. They want to groom you, entice you into their world so that

:06:01. > :06:05.they can control you, and you will be a cash cow for them for the next

:06:06. > :06:10.five years. But it was the emotional cost that took the greatest toll on

:06:11. > :06:17.Lynn Davis' victims. I just feel embarrassed and angry. He was making

:06:18. > :06:23.us go into debt, not helping us out. It was going on for about five years

:06:24. > :06:27.- stress, anxiety and worry. I think he's capable of anything. He is a

:06:28. > :06:31.nasty man. Davis pleaded guilty to illegal moneylending last October,

:06:32. > :06:36.but here is what is surprising - the judge offered him a lifeline. If he

:06:37. > :06:40.would pay back all the extortionate interest he had charged his victims,

:06:41. > :06:46.nearly ?10,000, then he might avoid a prison sentence. It's a decision

:06:47. > :06:50.not all of Davis' victims agree with. The stress he put us through

:06:51. > :06:54.towards the end, the last couple of years, he should have some

:06:55. > :06:59.punishment back. On Friday, Davis was due back at Cardiff Crown Court

:07:00. > :07:03.for sentencing. We have been told he has coughed up that interest in

:07:04. > :07:06.full, but is it enough to avoid a prison sentence and what has he got

:07:07. > :07:16.to say to his victims, the people he bullied into a cycle of debt? Lynn

:07:17. > :07:19.Davis? It is nick Walace from The One Show. You can take your jacket

:07:20. > :07:25.off your head. Are you ashamed of something? Why don't you answer some

:07:26. > :07:31.questions? Does he deserve any privacy after the way he treated his

:07:32. > :07:34.victims? There we go, no remorse, not answering questions. It is down

:07:35. > :07:40.to a judge to decide what happens to him now.

:07:41. > :07:44.Well, Nick is here now with news of that decision. What did the judge

:07:45. > :07:48.said and did Len Davies escaped jail? Lynn Davis is a deeply

:07:49. > :07:51.unpleasant and now convicted criminal who engaged in a

:07:52. > :07:57.controlling and abusive relationship with his victims, but he wasn't sent

:07:58. > :08:00.to prison. He was given an 18 month suspended sentence, and the judge

:08:01. > :08:02.said that if he broke the terms of his parole or his curfew or he

:08:03. > :08:08.engaged in any other kind of criminal activity, he would be

:08:09. > :08:13.straight into jail. Is it unusual for a judge to give somebody time to

:08:14. > :08:16.pay money back? Many people might be disgusted by the way Lynn Davis

:08:17. > :08:21.could just walk out of court essentially a free man. Steve, who

:08:22. > :08:24.we saw in the film from the illegal moneylending unit in Wales, said he

:08:25. > :08:28.had not come across something like this before. However, we have found

:08:29. > :08:32.instances where court orders have been made of this kind. I think the

:08:33. > :08:36.thinking behind it is that if you throw a loan sharking to prison,

:08:37. > :08:41.then you might find it difficult to track down their assets. But if you

:08:42. > :08:44.say to them, you can avoid jail if you start paying back the money that

:08:45. > :08:50.you have taken from people illegally, then sometimes that money

:08:51. > :08:53.magically appears. In this case was particularly unusual because we knew

:08:54. > :08:56.how many victims there were and how much he had taken from them, so the

:08:57. > :09:01.court was able to order him to pay that money directly to the victims.

:09:02. > :09:05.In many cases, if the police do a raid on a loan shark's property and

:09:06. > :09:08.they fined ?200,000 stuffed in a mattress with no paperwork, they

:09:09. > :09:12.will not know where that money has come from. So often, that money is

:09:13. > :09:16.then given back to the community in terms of charitable projects. What

:09:17. > :09:20.advice do the police have for people who may be tied up with some kind of

:09:21. > :09:22.debt and are concerned about this? The first thing is that it is not

:09:23. > :09:38.illegal to borrow money from a loan shark. You will not get into trouble

:09:39. > :09:40.if you raise your hand and say, I need help. You can get confidential

:09:41. > :09:42.help from any number of organisations like the Citizens

:09:43. > :09:44.Advice Bureau or Crimestoppers or you can go directly to the

:09:45. > :09:46.moneylending units themselves and say, I think someone could be an

:09:47. > :09:50.illegal moneylender. They will check them out and start to give you help

:09:51. > :09:52.from day one. It is -- if it is a potentially violent situation, they

:09:53. > :09:55.can take you out of that situation. These units also operate on

:09:56. > :09:59.tip-offs, so if you suspect that someone is a loan shark or might get

:10:00. > :10:02.in trouble with a loan shark, call them and they can expect to get

:10:03. > :10:08.these loan sharks out of the communities they are operating in.

:10:09. > :10:13.Thank you, Nick. There are more details on our website. Katherine,

:10:14. > :10:16.before we hear about your new version of Carousel, let's have a

:10:17. > :10:22.look at a song everyone will recognise from the classic 1956

:10:23. > :10:28.movie. # Walk on, walk on.

:10:29. > :10:39.# With hope in your heart. # And you'll never walk alone. Well,

:10:40. > :10:43.Michelle, you say everyone will know the song, but I am sure not many

:10:44. > :10:49.realise that it is from Carousel. What images does that conjure up for

:10:50. > :10:53.you when you see that old footage? As a child, my mum used to entertain

:10:54. > :10:56.my sister and I by putting on all the Hollywood musicals, and that was

:10:57. > :11:00.my first love before I found classical music. I have always

:11:01. > :11:08.wanted to do something like this, but it has never been the right

:11:09. > :11:12.project. I am thrilled to be rehearsing something like this. It

:11:13. > :11:18.is a song you have sung many times before. Yeah, I have sung this in

:11:19. > :11:23.concerts and recorded it for my album. It is such a special song and

:11:24. > :11:27.I think not many people know where it comes from. When you put it into

:11:28. > :11:32.the context of this amazing story, this love story, with its highs and

:11:33. > :11:37.lows, and this comes at the end, it is really emotionally charged. A

:11:38. > :11:41.very different setting for you. We are used to seeing you in front of

:11:42. > :11:45.big audiences, but in a concert situation. Here you are in a musical

:11:46. > :11:50.situation, with Alfie bow on the 7th of April at the London Coliseum. As

:11:51. > :11:55.far as the story is set, when is it set in history and what is your

:11:56. > :11:59.character? This has been moved to the 1930s. I am playing Julie Jordan

:12:00. > :12:04.and Alfie plays Billy Bigelow, and it is the story of how we fall in

:12:05. > :12:08.love and the consequences of that. It is the most gorgeous score by

:12:09. > :12:14.Rodgers and Hammerstein and it was voted the most popular music. It is

:12:15. > :12:20.my first time doing anything like this, but I am having the best time.

:12:21. > :12:24.We have 71 people on stage in one go with the English National Opera

:12:25. > :12:29.chorus and their award-winning orchestra and all the dancers and

:12:30. > :12:33.taking children. But it is only on for five weeks. This is your first

:12:34. > :12:37.musical theatre performance, but you are so used to performing in front

:12:38. > :12:44.of thousands of people. How are you feeling about this on how does it

:12:45. > :12:48.compare? It is nerve-wracking, but exciting. It is such an honour to

:12:49. > :12:54.get the opportunity to be involved in this. The English National Opera

:12:55. > :12:57.decided to put on special programming of a one off popular

:12:58. > :13:00.show every year to bring in a different audience. To be asked to

:13:01. > :13:03.be involved with that has been a lovely thing. Of course I will be

:13:04. > :13:07.nervous on the night, but I am having a whale of a time. It is an

:13:08. > :13:14.emotional story as well. And you have to kiss Alfie Boe as well. I

:13:15. > :13:21.do! We went into the kiss pretty early. It is so funny, because I

:13:22. > :13:27.have known Alfie for such a long time and we get on so well that it

:13:28. > :13:34.was like, let's get it done. Did that make it easier? Um, I am a

:13:35. > :13:37.married woman with a baby at home. You just think you will never kiss

:13:38. > :13:44.anybody else again and then you have to get your head around it. And you

:13:45. > :13:48.have to do an American accent. Yeah, I have got to speak in an American

:13:49. > :13:52.accent, but luckily my husband is American, so I get some practice at

:13:53. > :13:58.home. First-time acting, first time in an accent. Alfie has done lots of

:13:59. > :14:06.musicals and operas, so he has been great at giving the encouragement.

:14:07. > :14:11.We wish you all the best. Now, Katherine, you are not the only show

:14:12. > :14:23.stopper in the room tonight, because here is the clip. This was Michelle

:14:24. > :14:30.on Let's Sing And Dance For Comic Relief on Saturday night. Shall we

:14:31. > :14:40.just let it breathe a moment? There you have it, well done, Michelle!

:14:41. > :14:43.Put that into some context for us. I loved wearing that costume. We all

:14:44. > :14:48.thought, if we are going to do it, we might as well go for it. As you

:14:49. > :14:56.could probably here, I can't sing to save my life. I thought you did

:14:57. > :15:01.well! And of course, you got lots of support from viewers at home. Thank

:15:02. > :15:04.you for voting. We are thrilled to be few. Final Saturday, all the

:15:05. > :15:16.best. Everything is crossed. This week we have some famous faces

:15:17. > :15:23.highlighting project your money helps fund. Here is Javone Prince.

:15:24. > :15:24.Any change for the homeless please? Spare any change for the homeless

:15:25. > :15:37.please? This is like my reality. When I leave my house I am amazed at

:15:38. > :15:41.how many homeless people I see sleeping rough on the streets of

:15:42. > :15:44.Britain and I am thinking why is this still happening in this day and

:15:45. > :15:50.age and why are we not doing anything about it? Firm foundation

:15:51. > :15:54.Winter night shelter is one of many projects across the UK which is

:15:55. > :15:59.funded by Comic Relief and helps meet the basic needs of people who

:16:00. > :16:03.are homeless. The shelter offers emergency accommodation for up to 12

:16:04. > :16:10.men and five women and night, Gillian is the manager. The shelter

:16:11. > :16:15.runs for three months, 84 nights, requiring caterers and volunteers

:16:16. > :16:21.and people to help run a shelter so people can leave the street. People

:16:22. > :16:26.are homeless for many different reasons and so we find very quickly

:16:27. > :16:32.that there isn't a stereotypical homeless person. My job finished, I

:16:33. > :16:39.didn't have any money and my landlord said sorry, I like you but

:16:40. > :16:46.you have to go. I was on the street. What was your first night like? I

:16:47. > :16:55.was walking might just to keep warm. I stay here, it was like, wow, like

:16:56. > :16:59.something from above. One of the reasons the shelter is so helpful is

:17:00. > :17:02.it gives people not just the nutritional aspect but the social

:17:03. > :17:09.aspect and the two together to lift spirits. They give you a nice bag of

:17:10. > :17:12.washing stuff, boxers and stuff like that and you can put your head down

:17:13. > :17:23.for the evening and they give you a lunch. It's a good thing that they

:17:24. > :17:28.do. There are circumstances are often heart-wrenching and we are

:17:29. > :17:34.working with them to establish away out of rough sleeping, out of

:17:35. > :17:38.homelessness. I'm not asking for people to feel sorry for me, it is

:17:39. > :17:42.just understand it. I may have fallen on hard times, for me it's

:17:43. > :17:46.not what people think about it, it's what you think about yourself.

:17:47. > :17:51.People who are homeless are 13 times more likely to be victims of

:17:52. > :17:57.violence. I have had a couple of fights before. Some say get the job,

:17:58. > :18:03.some say go back to your own country. Before they hear me speak.

:18:04. > :18:10.Because I was born here. Was fine sleeping rough in an abandoned

:18:11. > :18:15.building. The first night I slept out, I slept in a car park, no

:18:16. > :18:21.sleeping bag, nothing. It does get cold. It is called now as you can

:18:22. > :18:28.feel. I get cooked meals when I come here. If I can get some change

:18:29. > :18:31.together, get a hot cup of tea. This place is a life-saver, definitely.

:18:32. > :18:41.Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger doesn't it? Sadly there are

:18:42. > :18:46.more people that are homeless than there are spaces at these projects.

:18:47. > :18:51.To add to say to someone sorry, there is not a bed available and see

:18:52. > :18:58.them go out rough sleeping, that is difficult. There are thousands of

:18:59. > :19:02.people across the UK sleeping rough on our streets in any one night.

:19:03. > :19:07.Your donation can help project like these offer those that are homeless

:19:08. > :19:09.a safe place to spend the night and provide vital support to help

:19:10. > :19:20.improve their lives. Thank you. Big thank you, Red Nose Day is of

:19:21. > :19:24.course on Friday and if you would like to donate some money which

:19:25. > :19:29.codes to fund projects here in the UK and in Africa, here is how you do

:19:30. > :19:38.it. Catherine, can you do the honours?

:19:39. > :19:44.Those text messages will cost your donation and your standard network

:19:45. > :19:49.message charge and all of the donation will go to Comic Relief.

:19:50. > :19:57.You must be 16 or over, please ask the bill payers permission. For more

:19:58. > :20:02.information or to donate online go to BBC .co .uk/ Red Nose Day.

:20:03. > :20:07.Someone else raising a lot of money for Red Nose Day as we speak doing

:20:08. > :20:14.it about 50 meters in that direction on the top of Radio 2. She can hear

:20:15. > :20:23.us. She is smiling. She is dancing to 80s music for hours, it is Sara

:20:24. > :20:29.Cox. You are looking good, how do you feel? I feel all right. This is

:20:30. > :20:36.what I do know, I danced nonstop. Very fresh faced. Let's hear about

:20:37. > :20:44.what you are eating and how you are a growing, how are you keeping your

:20:45. > :20:48.strength up? I have the good Professor looking after me, lots of

:20:49. > :20:57.peanuts and bananas, a burger. It's amazing. Whilst you are moving? For

:20:58. > :21:02.the odd moment, I had to viewers because I am wolfing food whilst

:21:03. > :21:07.dancing. The listeners of radio to have been incredible and we have

:21:08. > :21:13.raised so much and we have to keep going until 9:30am. Stick with us on

:21:14. > :21:17.the red button. As far as beams are going, what are you finding the

:21:18. > :21:22.easiest to dance to, power ballads, rock, disco? It's good to have a

:21:23. > :21:30.power ballad because then you can just do some of this. It of that. A

:21:31. > :21:37.bit of Prince was good. We have got it all. 80s music for 24 hours until

:21:38. > :21:42.9:30am, I would love people to join in and innate and support because as

:21:43. > :21:47.you know Comic Relief is incredible, every penny goes to all the

:21:48. > :21:53.brilliant causes. If people donate and keep me dancing that would be

:21:54. > :21:56.mega. No doubt they will. We have something to motivate you, the

:21:57. > :22:02.slogan is make you laugh count so we have asked viewers to send in videos

:22:03. > :22:06.of their favourite laps. Keep them coming, here is the current top

:22:07. > :22:10.three as they stand. At three it is one-year-old Dylan.

:22:11. > :22:26.LAUGHTER In Glasgow it's Ann.

:22:27. > :22:36.And in the top spot at number one, Sinead from Dagenham.

:22:37. > :22:50.Sinead joins you know to help you dance for the rest of the sure, all

:22:51. > :22:55.the very best with everything Sara, you are doing a sterling effort,

:22:56. > :23:02.well done. Thank you very much. Can you give us a laugh? LAUGHTER

:23:03. > :23:12.I don't know if Material Girl will be playing at some point but if so

:23:13. > :23:19.Katherine chose that one. And you can support Sienna Cox in her Sounds

:23:20. > :23:26.of the 80s Dance-athon/ Radio 2. Earlier we heard music from the

:23:27. > :23:33.1930s, the birthday of Dame Vera Lynn. To celebrate Dan helped in the

:23:34. > :23:38.performance of one of her most famous songs.

:23:39. > :23:43.During the blitz one voice rang out in the depths of the darkness. Her

:23:44. > :23:46.songs were shorthand for British spirit in the face of adversity. The

:23:47. > :23:49.forces sweetheart, Dame Vera Lynn. # But I know we'll meet

:23:50. > :24:04.again some sunny day In honour of her 100th birthday The

:24:05. > :24:13.One Show is preparing something very special to mark the occasion. Where

:24:14. > :24:17.else but the white Cliffs of Dover. This iconic British landmark is

:24:18. > :24:22.synonymous with one of Dame Vera's most love songs. Named the Aptly

:24:23. > :24:33.white cliffs of Dover. # They'll be bluebirds over the

:24:34. > :24:39.White Cliffs of Dover. It's that unforgettable Hector which

:24:40. > :24:43.will be at the heart of our tribute. With the cliffs as a backdrop we

:24:44. > :24:48.will attempt a tribute on a monumental scale. We have teamed up

:24:49. > :24:53.with a company specialising in outdoor projection. Such a large

:24:54. > :24:58.scale canvas is not without its obstacles. Most people assume cinema

:24:59. > :25:03.screens are quite virgin services winners this is actually mottled

:25:04. > :25:09.with moss. What is the idea, blast as much light as you can? We have

:25:10. > :25:16.six high-powered projectors, we are going to have about a lumens of

:25:17. > :25:22.projection, probably equal to the average lighthouses worth of power

:25:23. > :25:27.onto the surface. As the team sets up I'm off to learn more about the

:25:28. > :25:32.song. Filled with the spirit of resolve and defiance it is

:25:33. > :25:37.quintessentially British classic. Or is it? Although this has the

:25:38. > :25:42.reputation of being an iconic wartime British classic it was

:25:43. > :25:51.written by two Americans. What? It was written in New York in tin Pan

:25:52. > :25:56.Alley. My goodness. Despite neither of them coming to England, and we do

:25:57. > :26:01.not have bluebirds in England. Why did these Americans write it? It was

:26:02. > :26:05.1941 and the Allies were not doing very well and there was a dire

:26:06. > :26:12.desire to try and decrease American support for the idea of joining the

:26:13. > :26:16.war. Dame Vera Lynn became a figurehead for the war effort,

:26:17. > :26:21.braving bombs to sing to troops across the globe. Songs like the

:26:22. > :26:26.White Cliffs of Dover reminded soldiers stationed far away of home.

:26:27. > :26:32.Exactly what they were fighting for. Almost time to begin. In true

:26:33. > :26:36.wartime fashion we will be using searchlights. These are so powerful

:26:37. > :26:41.we have had to notify the Civil Aviation Authority to tell pilots to

:26:42. > :26:46.keep their distance. With one exception. The tribute would not be

:26:47. > :26:53.complete without a cameo from one aircraft that has become synonymous

:26:54. > :26:55.with World War II. To kick-start proceedings, a Spitfire salute for

:26:56. > :27:20.the forces sweetheart. And as darkness falls it's time to

:27:21. > :27:47.turn on the projectors. # There will be bluebirds over the

:27:48. > :27:54.White Cliffs of Dover. # Tomorrow, just wait and see.

:27:55. > :28:10.# There will be love and laughter # And peace ever after.

:28:11. > :28:20.# Tomorrow, just you wait and see # . APPLAUSE

:28:21. > :28:27.We were all joining in, some of us better than others! If you're

:28:28. > :28:34.watching Dame Vera Lynn, happy birthday. Thank you to our technical

:28:35. > :28:42.team. These are pictures of people who have met Dame Vera. This is say

:28:43. > :28:48.that who sang in front of horror in 2010. This one sent in by Vivian.

:28:49. > :28:56.Thank you for all of your pictures. Thank you to Katherine, Carousel is

:28:57. > :28:59.in the London Coliseum from the 8th of April. John Bishop is here

:29:00. > :29:22.tomorrow night. See as we served life sentences

:29:23. > :29:24.in solitary confinement.