:00:23. > :00:29.with Alex Jones. And Matt Baker. Our guest tonight is a tennis player who
:00:29. > :00:33.in the 70s had to deal with one of the most sexist men ever. It is
:00:33. > :00:39.incredible. Please do not shoot the messenger here. Former men's number
:00:39. > :00:45.one Bobby Riggs said this. The best way to handle women is to keep them
:00:45. > :00:51.pregnant and barefoot. He then went on to say "The male is
:00:51. > :00:59.king, the male is supreme and women should know that" . His words, not
:00:59. > :01:09.mine! But our guestbook that man in his place in the court. It is 39
:01:09. > :01:11.
:01:11. > :01:17.time Grand Slam winner Billie Jean King! I can't believe how many
:01:17. > :01:24.people you have here. We will be talking about this incredible battle
:01:24. > :01:28.later. I have trouble remembering it. How important was it for you to
:01:28. > :01:35.make Bobby Riggs eat his words? was quite important. There was so
:01:35. > :01:44.much attention on it. It really was a reflection of society. Sports are
:01:44. > :01:52.a microcosm of society. It was about equality. And you nailed it. We will
:01:52. > :01:58.go into that later. Goodness knows how you cope with the pressure.
:01:58. > :02:04.will also hear your Wimbledon predictions. I had better start
:02:04. > :02:09.thinking. I don't have a clue! The pressure is on. Before that, Google
:02:09. > :02:14.is everywhere. It is on our computers and phones, it is taking
:02:14. > :02:19.photos of where we live, voters of space. It is even about to send its
:02:19. > :02:22.own fleet of balloons into the skies. With that much power comes
:02:22. > :02:31.great responsibility, and many believe Google is not living up to
:02:31. > :02:36.its mantra - don't be evil. Gentlemen, my name is Doctor Google,
:02:36. > :02:41.and this is my evil online empire. From my headquarters, I can track
:02:41. > :02:49.your every move, find out what you are shopping for and follow your
:02:49. > :02:59.most private conversations. In the past five years, I have turned over
:02:59. > :03:02.
:03:02. > :03:06.�11 billion, but paid corporation tax of just 10 million. Hah ha-ha!
:03:06. > :03:10.Just 10 million? That is 1000th of its revenue. That explains why a lot
:03:10. > :03:13.of people see Google is a bit of a Bond villain. Last month, its top
:03:13. > :03:21.brass had to explain the company's tax affairs to a committee of angry
:03:21. > :03:24.MPs. Your company says do no evil, and I think you do do evil. Evil to
:03:24. > :03:29.me suggests something like the devil. Google, on the other hand, I
:03:29. > :03:33.am not so sure. If you have an official motto that says don't be
:03:33. > :03:38.evil, you are testing yourself up for a fall. You are saying to
:03:38. > :03:42.everybody, you are the good guys. Especially when it came to light
:03:42. > :03:46.that they had been avoiding paying tax by routing company accounts
:03:46. > :03:51.through Ireland. And that information was confirmed by a
:03:51. > :03:56.whistleblower. What did you blow the whistle on? Google were in the press
:03:56. > :04:00.saying they did not do any selling in the UK. They said that because if
:04:00. > :04:03.they don't sell in the UK, they don't have to pay much tax here. I
:04:03. > :04:08.worked for Google's sales team for four years and I want to make
:04:08. > :04:13.everyone realise that Google had a sales team in the UK and that
:04:13. > :04:19.selling was what the sales team did. Google makes millions of pounds in
:04:19. > :04:23.the UK, but it pays hardly anything in tax here. Let's make one thing
:04:23. > :04:27.clear. What Google is doing is perfectly legal under international
:04:27. > :04:29.taxation laws, and they are not the only ones at it. Other
:04:29. > :04:35.multinationals like Starbucks, Amazon and Facebook have faced
:04:35. > :04:40.similar criticism. But let's be honest, if you had the opportunity
:04:40. > :04:45.legally to pay less tax, wouldn't you take it? But for the doubters,
:04:45. > :04:48.Google's tax affairs are just the tip of an iceberg. Stored away on
:04:48. > :04:52.Google's servers are reams of personal information about us. It
:04:52. > :04:58.has also come under pressure to do more to block access to indecent
:04:58. > :05:00.material, but that is not holding the company back. Google processes
:05:00. > :05:04.over 3 billion searches around the world every day. Its sheer size has
:05:04. > :05:08.even changed the way internet searches work. It is looking into
:05:08. > :05:14.ways of automating your home and making a driverless car. It owns
:05:14. > :05:19.YouTube, and Google maps, and everything you do on it is stored,
:05:19. > :05:24.so it could know a lot more about you than you think. Rory, one is
:05:24. > :05:29.through some of the ways Google can access our information. You have
:05:29. > :05:36.search, Gmail, calendars, chats and Google Android. Anything that goes
:05:36. > :05:42.into or out of your mobile phone, they have access to. Is it possible
:05:42. > :05:45.to take Google out of your life? Maybe if you move to Timbuktu. Apart
:05:45. > :05:48.from that, search for Google dashboard, and you can see what
:05:48. > :05:53.information they hold on you will stop then you can start to scale
:05:53. > :05:57.back the information you give them. Would you say Google are revealed?
:05:57. > :06:01.Not on camera, because they know so much about me! Google is changing
:06:01. > :06:05.the world and how we do things. These entrepreneurs are among those
:06:05. > :06:11.who say it is that the better. This is a technical hub supported and
:06:11. > :06:14.part funded by Google. We provide them with access to an active
:06:14. > :06:19.community and mentorship and support so that they can launch their own
:06:19. > :06:23.businesses. What is in it for Google? This is a not-for-profit
:06:23. > :06:26.activity. We don't write cheques or recruit engineers from the
:06:26. > :06:34.start-ups. It is a way for us to give back to the start-up
:06:34. > :06:40.community. Are you offering these businesses tax advice? We do not
:06:40. > :06:43.offer tax advice. Just as well. Well, Google did not want to
:06:43. > :06:49.comment, which is interesting, because I thought they wanted to
:06:49. > :06:54.share everything. But technology correspondent Rory Selin Jones has
:06:54. > :06:57.followed Google more than most. Let's have a look at their good
:06:57. > :07:03.versus evil balance sheet. The good thing is that this is one of the
:07:03. > :07:07.most clever companies in the world. It has thousands of engineers
:07:07. > :07:10.working on those ideas from those driverless cars to these new glasses
:07:10. > :07:14.whether internet will come straight into your eyes to those feats of
:07:14. > :07:18.balloons to bring the internet to remote places. We all use their
:07:18. > :07:24.services and get a lot from them. At the bad side is what we have heard
:07:24. > :07:30.about the tax and how much control they have overall of our data and
:07:30. > :07:37.the worries about privacy. But the real thing about Google was the
:07:37. > :07:41.mistake it made at the beginning, in saying, we are not evil. They tried
:07:41. > :07:43.to paint themselves almost as a charity. I spoke to a guy from the
:07:43. > :07:48.company and other day who was telling me how wonderful the new
:07:48. > :07:52.Google maps is, and I said, and how does it make money? And he looked at
:07:52. > :07:56.me like I had used a dirty word. They are a business making huge
:07:56. > :08:00.amounts of money, and there are compromises involved in that.
:08:00. > :08:06.Billie, on the privacy issue, how do you feel now that your government
:08:06. > :08:15.has access to you all your e-mails? I am OK about it, but I understand
:08:15. > :08:20.why people would not be. I told everybody in the tennis press
:08:20. > :08:25.office, whatever you write, everybody can see. So are you all
:08:26. > :08:30.right with it? That is the deal now. You have to think. The only trouble
:08:30. > :08:37.is that sometimes I hit that send button, and then I want to bring it
:08:37. > :08:45.back! How can I retrieve it before anybody sees it? Otherwise, you just
:08:45. > :08:54.have to think different league. Secrets don't work. I just think we
:08:54. > :08:59.have to be alert. Are you willing to have the whole world look at it?
:08:59. > :09:03.From our point of view in Britain, Google, Yahoo, Microsoft, all of
:09:03. > :09:08.these companies are in the US. We are giving them our data. They may
:09:08. > :09:17.be lovely, but it is them that decide what happens. It is very
:09:18. > :09:23.complex. But they don't realise what they are creating.
:09:23. > :09:28.Now, let's take ourselves back to the late 60s. Women in America could
:09:28. > :09:32.not get their own credit cards. In the UK, within earned up to 45% less
:09:32. > :09:36.than men for the same job and female tennis players at far less money
:09:36. > :09:42.than the men. We know those facts are correct, because we googled
:09:42. > :09:44.them. Anyway, enter Billie here. Here she is in her new cinema
:09:44. > :09:54.documentary, explaining how her fight for equality began at a young
:09:54. > :09:59.age. As a child, I realised that girls did not have power and people
:09:59. > :10:03.would not listen to us in the same way they listened to boys. I could
:10:03. > :10:08.not articulate it then. I felt these things bubbling up in me. I decided
:10:08. > :10:11.I was going to spend the rest of my life fighting for equal
:10:11. > :10:19.opportunities for boys and girls, men and women. I knew that tennis
:10:19. > :10:27.would be a platform if I became number one. That was majestic
:10:27. > :10:31.footage. They bring back great memories. You did become world
:10:31. > :10:37.number one, but after that, the fight really took off in 1968, when
:10:37. > :10:45.women became professional. We fought for professional tennis first. The
:10:46. > :10:51.all England club voted for it, so we owe a lot of debt to them. Then when
:10:52. > :11:00.we first got money in 1968, that was the first year. They are going to
:11:00. > :11:07.get �1.6 million. Thanks to you.But the point is that when Rod Labour
:11:07. > :11:13.got his cheque for �2000 and I got my check the �750, I went, oh, no. I
:11:13. > :11:18.thought it would be even. So I thought, here we go again. We were
:11:18. > :11:22.fighting so hard for pro tennis. I wanted to be with the men as an
:11:22. > :11:28.association, and they didn't want us. So that was not fun. Rejection
:11:28. > :11:34.is not fun anyway, but it was hard because these guys were my friends.
:11:34. > :11:39.And you were playing for a dollar? We signed that dollar contract, nine
:11:39. > :11:45.of us. That was the moment of the birth of women's professional tennis
:11:45. > :11:50.as we know today. Today we are celebrating our 40th anniversary. We
:11:50. > :11:56.start of the Association three years later in 1973 at the Gloucester
:11:56. > :12:05.Hotel in London. It was during the Queens tournament. It was an �18,000
:12:05. > :12:09.tournament. And I said to Betty stove, from Holland, Locke the
:12:09. > :12:19.doors, don't let anybody out. We will have an association by the end
:12:19. > :12:23.of this meeting, or not. And she goes, great. She is really tall. And
:12:23. > :12:28.we signed on and elected our officers that they. My former
:12:28. > :12:36.husband had the bylaws written, because he was a lawyer. We were an
:12:36. > :12:39.association at the end of that day on June 20, 1973, which is today.
:12:39. > :12:43.it was all going great guns, and then there was this guy we spoke
:12:43. > :12:49.about at the beginning, Bobby Riggs, who was a chauvinist and a thorn in
:12:49. > :12:53.women's side, permanently. And then you two challenged each other to a
:12:53. > :12:58.tennis match. He followed me around for three years and I would not play
:12:58. > :13:04.him, and then he played Margaret and she lost, and then I had to play.
:13:04. > :13:09.Margaret took one for the team. I had to play him. I knew it was about
:13:09. > :13:18.social change. People only pay attention to women in sports if we
:13:18. > :13:26.are in the men's arena. And because 95% of the media is controlled by
:13:26. > :13:35.men, it is about them. It was a flamboyant match. It was like the
:13:35. > :13:42.World Cup would be here. I am coming out on managing she and litter -- on
:13:42. > :13:48.an Egyptian litter, with these beefcake guys carrying me. They were
:13:48. > :13:52.adorable, from Huston. We watched the documentary this morning, a
:13:52. > :14:02.friend and myself, in our pyjamas. We were screaming at the TV. How
:14:02. > :14:02.
:14:02. > :15:03.Apology for the loss of subtitles for 60 seconds
:15:03. > :15:07.much pressure were you feeling at took another 34 years for Wimbledon
:15:07. > :15:17.to do the same. But tennis is not the only profession to drag its
:15:17. > :15:17.
:15:17. > :16:16.Apology for the loss of subtitles for 60 seconds
:16:16. > :16:20.heels. Jasmine Harman serves up the It is wrong. They are both doing the
:16:20. > :16:25.same job. We are living in a different age now, so why should we
:16:25. > :16:28.not get paid the same wages for the same work? But that headline figure
:16:28. > :16:34.does not begin to account the percentage of women working part
:16:34. > :16:38.time. If you put them into the mix, the pay gap increases to nearly 20%.
:16:38. > :16:48.It means that as women would have to work nearly two months more every
:16:48. > :16:48.
:16:48. > :17:53.Apology for the loss of subtitles for 60 seconds
:17:53. > :17:57.year to earn the same as our male political sense? We all are. We want
:17:57. > :18:01.equal rights for men and women. That is the way the world needs to go for
:18:01. > :18:05.all of us, because we are all in this together. I have always tried
:18:05. > :18:08.to think about trying to be good to each other.
:18:08. > :18:15.On a different subject, when we sent Mike to Lyme Regis in search of a
:18:15. > :18:19.rare bird, none of us were sure if you would find anything. But never
:18:19. > :18:22.doubt the Dilger. Prepare yourself for the weakest stakeout in natural
:18:22. > :18:27.history history. The variety of birds in Britain is
:18:27. > :18:31.growing, and is now more diverse than ever. The arrival of new
:18:31. > :18:36.species often start with just a few leading the way. So I am on a
:18:36. > :18:45.mission to track down an exotic bird, called the hoopoe, that could
:18:45. > :18:48.be the next regular site in Britain. Only 100 of these
:18:48. > :18:53.mysterious verbs are spotted every year, so they are tough to find.
:18:53. > :18:58.Even when one is located, it usually disappears within hours, so I have a
:18:58. > :19:02.challenge on my hands. This is a map of all the recent sighting this
:19:02. > :19:07.year. Even though they are fairly well spread, there is a real hotspot
:19:07. > :19:13.along the south coast. So that is where I am headed in the hope of
:19:13. > :19:17.finding a hoopoe. Better known as a package holiday bird, it is so
:19:17. > :19:23.rarely seen here that most which will have only spotted one on beach
:19:23. > :19:26.holidays in the Met. But far from the Mediterranean, my destination
:19:26. > :19:31.today is Lyme Regis in Dorset, as their have been sightings here over
:19:31. > :19:36.the last week. You have been catching up with this elusive
:19:36. > :19:41.hoopoe? Yes, I saw it last Saturday. I have some photos from
:19:41. > :19:46.Chris Cook on the West Midlands, who came just to see this word.
:19:46. > :19:51.Beautiful, isn't it? The plumage is really fresh. And you can see the
:19:51. > :19:55.mud on the bill. These birds migrate from Africa to Europe, and currently
:19:55. > :20:03.only turn up in England when they accidentally overshoot. How long has
:20:03. > :20:07.it been knocking around? About a week. That is unusual. Hoopoe is
:20:07. > :20:13.often stay for a day or two, but we have had a lot of rain and strong
:20:13. > :20:21.winds. If the bird tries to return now, it will be flying against the
:20:21. > :20:23.wind. It will try and find its home. When a rare bird lands, there
:20:23. > :20:30.is a flutter of activity online. In the last week, there have been
:20:30. > :20:35.frequent posts on websites like this one. But over the last 24 hours, the
:20:35. > :20:39.trail has gone cold. I hope I haven't missed it. I am told there
:20:39. > :20:43.has been a group of the -- bird-watchers at the pitch and putt
:20:43. > :20:53.car park over the last two days, and they were all lingering near a blue
:20:53. > :21:00.skip. And that is it, so at least I am in the right place. All I have to
:21:00. > :21:04.do now is find it. Hoopoes like really short turf to feed on to look
:21:04. > :21:14.for lots of juicy invertebrates, leather jackets, worms, grubs,
:21:14. > :21:24.
:21:24. > :21:33.Beatles. This is a good place to start. Hang on. It is there! Look! I
:21:33. > :21:40.am standing a metre from the skip, and it is in the field. Oh, As! It
:21:40. > :21:45.looks totally at home. Its crest is laid-back, and it has a long bill.
:21:45. > :21:52.Beautiful, pink plumage. Fabulous, dazzling black and white wings. This
:21:52. > :22:02.is the easiest to which I have ever gone on. I found the bird within 30
:22:02. > :22:03.
:22:03. > :22:07.seconds. Beautiful. My word, look at that! The crest is up and
:22:07. > :22:13.everything. They have a startling ability to show how they are feeling
:22:13. > :22:23.as well. In alarm and excitement, they flicked open their plumes in
:22:23. > :22:24.
:22:24. > :22:29.this stunning fan. I can't believe this. The bird is just preening
:22:29. > :22:38.itself, keeping those fabulous feathers in tiptop condition. This
:22:38. > :22:43.bird is putting on the most amazing show. Look at that! I love seeing
:22:43. > :22:47.rare birds, especially ones as beautiful as this. And who knows?
:22:47. > :22:53.With warmer summers that we are getting, this could be a much more
:22:53. > :23:01.regular occurrence. Until then, keep your eyes peeled in spring for a
:23:01. > :23:08.black and white bird exploding out of the grassland.
:23:08. > :23:13.Have you ever known such excitement? ! After 30 seconds he still put in
:23:13. > :23:18.for a full-day's pay! This is a woman you will be interested in. She
:23:18. > :23:24.had to deal with men doubting her abilities. Amy Johnson was prepared
:23:24. > :23:30.to go a long way to prove her ex-boyfriend wrong.
:23:30. > :23:33.In 1930, when men dominated the skies, one for men flew an
:23:33. > :23:40.incredible 10,000 miles from England to Australia in a machine like this.
:23:40. > :23:44.Ever since the Wright brothers's first powered flight in 1903, men
:23:44. > :23:50.designed, built and flew aeroplanes with varying degrees of success. For
:23:50. > :23:58.most women, it was pretty much a closed shop, except for one woman
:23:58. > :24:01.who stands tall among this old boys club. Her name was Amy Johnson. With
:24:01. > :24:08.only two years flying experience behind her, she became the first
:24:08. > :24:14.woman to complete that epic journey in this plane solo. She was born and
:24:14. > :24:20.raised in whole, the oldest of four girls in 1903. In 1923 she pursued
:24:20. > :24:25.her dream of flying by moving to London. After just 16 hours of
:24:25. > :24:28.Jewish she gained her pilot license. Not content with just being able to
:24:28. > :24:34.fly, she was able to fix aeroplanes and was the first woman in the
:24:34. > :24:39.country to hold a ground engineer's license. This would be the start of
:24:39. > :24:49.an incredible flying career. She decided to beat the record in 1930
:24:49. > :24:55.
:24:55. > :25:01.set for a flight from Britain to Australia in this gypsy moth. It was
:25:01. > :25:05.bought second-hand for �600. On the 5th of May, she prepared to take off
:25:05. > :25:15.from Croydon airport with compass and map for navigation, and another
:25:15. > :25:16.
:25:16. > :25:20.essential item. Part of the survival kit apart from water and a portable
:25:20. > :25:27.stove and quinine, she was advised to take a revolver just in case she
:25:27. > :25:33.was making a forced landing in a difficult environment. How difficult
:25:33. > :25:39.is it to fly? There is no autopilot. She was hand flying. Some of the
:25:39. > :25:46.legs would have been 11 hours at the time. Why did you do it?She wanted
:25:46. > :25:50.to prove to her former boyfriend that she was capable of leading an
:25:50. > :25:55.independent life, so it was partly to show him what she could do. And
:25:55. > :26:00.partly there were records to be made. The path took over Vienna,
:26:00. > :26:03.through Turkey, over Iraq and arriving in India two days earlier
:26:03. > :26:10.than the German had done. Although torrential rain, bad light and lack
:26:10. > :26:17.of fuel forced her to crash land in Rangoon, damaging her aeroplane and
:26:17. > :26:20.putting paid to her record attempt. I have taken to the skies above this
:26:20. > :26:30.airfield with compass and map just to see what it is like to navigate
:26:30. > :26:57.
:26:57. > :27:02.from an open cockpit. It is on through Singapore, arriving to a
:27:02. > :27:06.heroes welcome in Darwin on the 24th of May. The 19.5 days that she took
:27:06. > :27:12.did not beat the record but she became the first woman to fly solo
:27:12. > :27:22.from England to Australia. It was a huge achievement. The Australians
:27:22. > :27:26.loved her. She was officially the darling of the age. Hello,
:27:26. > :27:31.everybody. My seem to have got here at last. It has been a long time but
:27:31. > :27:36.here I am and jolly glad to be here at last. Amy Johnson came home to
:27:36. > :27:41.the hero's welcome, was awarded the CBE, and went on to set more records
:27:41. > :27:46.will solo flights around the world. She had become a worldwide celebrity
:27:46. > :27:49.but her life was tragically cut short in 1941, when on a mission for
:27:49. > :27:59.the air transport auxiliary she crashed in the Thames estuary.
:27:59. > :28:01.
:28:01. > :28:03.Despite numerous attempts to find her, she and her aeroplane have
:28:03. > :28:06.never been recovered. The celebrated aviator was just 37 years old. Amy
:28:06. > :28:10.Johnson did leave behind a trophy paid for by her Australian money and
:28:10. > :28:15.for 80 years has been awarded to people from Hull. The current holder
:28:15. > :28:21.is here with her grandmother, who won the cup for helping save her
:28:21. > :28:31.family's life when a fire broke out at home. We have a replica of the
:28:31. > :28:37.trophy here. I was just going to ask you... I would love to do it. My dad
:28:37. > :28:47.was a firefighter. How appropriate. What an honour for me to be able to
:28:47. > :28:48.
:28:48. > :28:57.give you this. What would you like to do when you
:28:57. > :29:05.leave school? I would like to become a policewoman. My dad was a police
:29:05. > :29:12.officer, too. You covered it! you pick out the winners? I have no