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:00:35. > :00:39.Hello and welcome to The One Show with Alex Jones. And Matt Baker. We

:00:39. > :00:49.have got our stetsons on to welcome the ultimate bad boy oil baron who

:00:49. > :00:53.

:00:53. > :00:58.gripped the road in the '80s. It is JR Ewing himself, Larry Hagman.

:00:58. > :01:02.Larry, so good to see you. Before we came on air, Larry shaped our

:01:02. > :01:07.hats for us so that we were looking right. They were a mess. And you

:01:07. > :01:12.have even got cowboy boots on. Don't joke, they are not fun. They

:01:12. > :01:19.are made for riding on horses, not walking around London. But you do

:01:19. > :01:26.feel at home around here. I lived in St John's Wood for five years.

:01:26. > :01:32.1961 till 1966. It was wonderful. Very different back then. Well, I

:01:32. > :01:36.don't know. The smell of London is here. It has just got more people.

:01:36. > :01:42.We also read that you are partial to hat. You are wearing a lovely

:01:42. > :01:47.Stenson, but you have a collection of them? I collect hats. My friends

:01:47. > :01:51.send me hands from everywhere in the world, so I have a few thousand.

:01:51. > :01:55.We do you keep them? I don't know, my wife hides them. I am not

:01:55. > :02:01.kidding. I must have a thousand hats. I have not the faintest idea

:02:01. > :02:09.where most of them are. But some are really expensive, aren't they?

:02:09. > :02:19.This one was $5,000. That is a hell of a hat. What material is that?

:02:19. > :02:28.

:02:28. > :02:35.is beaver. The other one is some kind of flannel. Made in Australia?

:02:35. > :02:40.Then I had better say nice things. That is a good hat. But is it

:02:40. > :02:47.really a working man's hat? I will lay it down that way. Because if

:02:47. > :02:51.you don't, your luck runs out. know lots of people at home have

:02:51. > :02:55.cowboy hats and they never have the excuse to put them on, so tonight

:02:55. > :02:59.is the night for all of you out there with a cowboy hat. If you

:02:59. > :03:03.have one, get it on and come back to the telly and take a picture of

:03:03. > :03:11.yourself, and we will show some later. People who have been on hen

:03:11. > :03:14.nights will have loads. I have a fight. Now, Larry, Dallas was

:03:14. > :03:17.constantly in the headlines back in the day. Later, we will meet a mum

:03:17. > :03:27.and daughter who made the papers in Texas for their special connection

:03:27. > :03:30.

:03:30. > :03:34.with your show back in the 1980s. Eighties, '90s? Long time ago. Now,

:03:34. > :03:39.everyone remembers that JR Ewing was shot, but can you remember who

:03:40. > :03:43.did it? Our very own cowgirl Lucy Siegle launches her own debts and-

:03:43. > :03:50.style investigation. A JR Ewing epitomised the money,

:03:50. > :03:54.oil and glamour that made Dallas and '80s soap smash hit. It -- in

:03:54. > :04:02.scenes where alpha males regularly locked horns... Somehow, the

:04:02. > :04:06.ruthless businessman always won. am going to nail you. You have to

:04:06. > :04:10.be a man. The show spawned probably the most famous whodunnit in

:04:10. > :04:18.television history, gripping an estimated 350 million viewers

:04:18. > :04:23.across the globe, with one infamous storyline. Stealing into the office

:04:23. > :04:28.of the mean old Texan oil baron, an unknown assailant fires two 38

:04:28. > :04:34.calibre slugs into JR Ewing, leaving him for dead. A nail-biting

:04:34. > :04:38.end to its third season. The sound that followed was of millions of

:04:38. > :04:43.viewers in the UK falling off their seats. One question was on their

:04:43. > :04:48.lips - who shot JR? It seemed everyone wanted to know whodunnit,

:04:49. > :04:54.from the Queen Mother to US President Jimmy Carter. I came to

:04:54. > :05:02.Dallas to find out confidentially who shot JR. Possibly the most bet

:05:03. > :05:06.upon showing TV history, the series even spark some odd tributes.

:05:06. > :05:14.Speculation over the shooter's identity was rife, but now we all

:05:14. > :05:22.know who did it, don't we? Who shot JR? Oh, um... That was a long time

:05:22. > :05:30.ago. Your man Cliff? I thought it was so Welland. It was a dream.

:05:30. > :05:37.can't say. I will not say. I don't remember who shot JR. Gerard was a

:05:37. > :05:40.man with a long list of enemies, from bamboozled oil barons to his

:05:40. > :05:46.wife Sue Allen, Cliff Barnes and what about Miceli? Actually, she

:05:46. > :05:50.was his mum. When the heavily guarded first episode of Dallas

:05:50. > :05:54.series four arrived in the UK, it even made the 9 o'clock News.

:05:54. > :05:58.secret of whodunit is contained in videotape brought into Heathrow

:05:58. > :06:02.Airport by an American security guard. And a long eight months

:06:02. > :06:08.after the shots were fired, the nation held its collective breath,

:06:08. > :06:14.waiting for the cliffhanger to be resolved. Even after 30 years, you

:06:14. > :06:19.want to know who did it. Ready? Dramatically, the camera tilts up

:06:19. > :06:26.to reveal of JR's sister-in-law and mistress Kristin Shepard had pulled

:06:26. > :06:31.the trigger. I thought it was so well and! De twas Kristin all along.

:06:31. > :06:35.And she had a very famous dad. and Crosby was her father, and my

:06:35. > :06:41.mother worked for him -- with him for two and a half years on his

:06:42. > :06:51.radio show in the '40s. Did you meet him as a younger lad? I never

:06:51. > :06:56.did, but I went to school with his sons. Small world. Actor who shot

:06:57. > :07:01.JR. Did you know the outcome, or is it true that only Sue Allen, from

:07:01. > :07:10.the cast, or Linda Gray, knew who it was? I didn't know and I don't

:07:10. > :07:14.think anybody else did. But she says, it was you, Christin, who

:07:14. > :07:22.shot JR. She had to do that in a voice-over, and that was how she

:07:22. > :07:26.found out. Barras is back, 21 years on, it will be on in September on

:07:26. > :07:30.Channel 5 -- Dallas. We know the background. It was about two

:07:31. > :07:35.families. I was a big fan. Before we see the new version, let's

:07:35. > :07:40.remind ourselves of summed up as just relationships between yourself

:07:40. > :07:44.and Solent. There were some great scenes. They wanted to see if you

:07:44. > :07:48.could make it through the ceremony without passing out. I admit, I

:07:48. > :07:53.fell off the wagon. I had a few drinks, but that is over now. I

:07:53. > :07:59.will stop drinking. So Llewellyn, don't bother with that story on my

:07:59. > :08:04.account, honey. We both know if you are a lush. Was it hard keeping a

:08:04. > :08:09.straight face during that scene? didn't, I was laughing inside.

:08:09. > :08:13.did have great chemistry with Linda Gray and Patrick Duffy, so much so

:08:13. > :08:20.that you were great friends. still are. We have lunch or dinner

:08:20. > :08:24.a few times a month. What was it about you three? Were just struck a

:08:24. > :08:30.chord and worked with each other for 13 years, happily. How often do

:08:30. > :08:34.people do that? Are you friends? course. But when the phone call

:08:34. > :08:38.came and they said, we are thinking of bringing Barras back, was it an

:08:38. > :08:43.easy decision for the three of you that that would be a great thing?

:08:43. > :08:47.Will heard about it for two years, and finally, someone sent us a

:08:47. > :08:52.script. And they read it, and I waited to see what they thought

:08:52. > :09:00.before I bothered. Usually, it is dreadful. But it was quite good, or

:09:00. > :09:10.doable. So I said, you want to do it? And they said yeah, let's do it.

:09:10. > :09:11.

:09:11. > :09:15.Linda Gray said, you will do it. what do we need to know about J are

:09:15. > :09:20.in the last 21 years? What has happened to him? I don't really

:09:20. > :09:28.know. You haven't seen any of this? For not the new series. I don't

:09:28. > :09:32.know how much I can tell you, because there is a secret. If you

:09:32. > :09:38.have a cousin in America, they will tell you. We will show people a

:09:38. > :09:48.clip now what you with your son, John Ross junior. Bobby was always

:09:48. > :09:49.

:09:49. > :09:59.a fool. Stubborn as a mule. And particularly hare-brained about

:09:59. > :10:02.

:10:02. > :10:12.Christopher. He was not even a Ewing. On what grounds are you

:10:12. > :10:14.

:10:14. > :10:18.contesting my mother's will? Mental incompetence. That is the great

:10:18. > :10:22.thing about the new Dallas, there is a new generation of Ewings

:10:22. > :10:27.coming in, including Jesse Metcalfe from Desperate Housewives playing

:10:27. > :10:33.Bobby's son. It must have been overwhelming for them to do the

:10:33. > :10:37.first read-through of the first day on set. Did they seem nervous?

:10:37. > :10:42.They say they work, but I don't think so. I never give advice. You

:10:42. > :10:47.can't give a kid advice. These are seasoned actors, they are not just

:10:47. > :10:51.coming in off the street. They have done this for a living for a long

:10:51. > :10:58.time. They have proved themselves. Did you snap straight back into

:10:58. > :11:04.that character? Of course. It was like coming home. Is there any part

:11:04. > :11:10.of you that thinks it was such a big success, maybe it was a mistake

:11:10. > :11:16.to bring it back? At my age, darling, it is worth the gamble.

:11:16. > :11:20.What have I got to lose? You can see Dallas on Channel 5 from early

:11:20. > :11:23.September. The now, time for some real-life drama as Mike Dilger

:11:23. > :11:30.investigates a dangerous beast that is popping up in parts of the

:11:30. > :11:36.country and causing havoc. Not as toxic as JR, but pretty troublesome

:11:36. > :11:41.nonetheless. In 2006, here in the leafy suburbs

:11:41. > :11:45.of west London, a mysterious alien outbreak had government agencies on

:11:45. > :11:50.high alert. 30 people from one estate near Kew began to suffer

:11:50. > :11:55.from a mysterious, itchy rash on exposed parts of their body,

:11:55. > :11:57.bloodshot eyes and some even had difficulty breathing. Richmond

:11:57. > :12:02.environmental health was immediately called in to

:12:02. > :12:06.investigate. At first, it was suspected to be biting mosquitoes,

:12:06. > :12:10.attractive to a nearby water plant. But this theory was quickly

:12:10. > :12:13.eliminated. Whilst looking for further clues in the surrounding

:12:13. > :12:17.environment, they discovered a strange coincidence. Damaged oak

:12:17. > :12:22.trees in the area were found to bear similarities to these photos

:12:22. > :12:24.taken in southern Europe, along with strange, nest-like are

:12:24. > :12:30.structures on the bark of the affected trees which were made by

:12:30. > :12:34.an unidentified organism. Local experts were stumped. The answer

:12:34. > :12:37.finally came when photos were sent to leading entomologist Martin

:12:37. > :12:42.Townsend, who identified the creatures as the non-native and

:12:42. > :12:45.highly toxic caterpillars of the Coke recessionary moth. The moth

:12:45. > :12:51.themselves are harmless, it is only the caterpillars that cause

:12:51. > :12:53.problems. It has a black band along the back. There are minute hairs a

:12:53. > :12:58.long but backbend which are like little barbs. They become detached

:12:58. > :13:02.and float in the air, causing a nasty rash, which can be persistent.

:13:02. > :13:07.Very rarely, it can cause a life- threatening condition. The moths

:13:07. > :13:11.were introduced to Britain absently with imported foreign oak trees,

:13:11. > :13:17.and since their discovery in west London, more nests have been found

:13:17. > :13:21.in Pangbourne, Sheffield and Leeds. One expert tried to stop the spread,

:13:21. > :13:25.Dr Mark Townshend. Can it be contained? I at the moment, with

:13:25. > :13:31.the level of resources being devoted to it, it will be hard to

:13:31. > :13:35.contain her. They are covering an area of 100 square kilometres now.

:13:35. > :13:39.It can be done, but it will be hard work. To remove the species from

:13:39. > :13:44.Britain entirely may prove impossible, but just as they do in

:13:44. > :13:48.Europe, UK councils are now eradicating nested trees as soon as

:13:48. > :13:52.they are spotted near populated areas. I am going to see how they

:13:52. > :13:56.do that here in healing. I can see the oak tree, but not the

:13:56. > :14:03.caterpillars. The fuel to the second branch across, follow it

:14:03. > :14:07.down. Underneath, you see the little ball? I can see it.

:14:07. > :14:11.Presumably, the caterpillars are abundant inside? To which the nest,

:14:11. > :14:15.we need a cherry picker, but first, I need to get dressed for the job.

:14:15. > :14:19.These suits are standard practice on the Continent, because exposures

:14:19. > :14:22.to the caterpillar's toxic hares can result in life-threatening

:14:22. > :14:28.anaphylactic shock, and the camera crew are not taking any chances

:14:28. > :14:32.either. In 2007, several soldiers were rushed to hospital after

:14:32. > :14:37.refusing to wear such protection. Thus clearing nests in southern

:14:37. > :14:43.Europe. This is the secret weapon, an industrial vacuum cleaner, used

:14:43. > :14:46.to remove asbestos fibres from old buildings. This will suck up not

:14:46. > :14:56.only the caterpillars and the nest, but any extra hairs flying around

:14:56. > :14:57.

:14:57. > :15:03.in the air. This must be the most unusual place I have ever used a

:15:03. > :15:08.vacuum cleaner. But vacuuming them up is not the end of the story. The

:15:08. > :15:11.only way to completely destroy the caterpillar's harmful toxins is to

:15:12. > :15:16.incinerate the contents of these vacuum cleaners, along with the

:15:16. > :15:20.suits we are wearing at over 600 degrees centigrade. Thankfully,

:15:20. > :15:25.there are now much stricter regulations on imported oak trees.

:15:25. > :15:29.Hopefully, no more caterpillars will be brought into Britain.

:15:29. > :15:39.Personally, I never like to see a species eradicated at the hands of

:15:39. > :15:41.

:15:41. > :15:48.man, but it is a health and safety You looked a bit like Ghost Busters.

:15:48. > :15:52.I was suited and booted. Those tiny hairs are serious business. As of

:15:53. > :15:57.recently, a new infestation has been found in Bromley and the nests

:15:57. > :16:01.are so numerous that they are trying to contain them. It is an

:16:01. > :16:04.ongoing problem. We about scaring the living daylights out of the

:16:04. > :16:12.people, they can approach caterpillars but these once you

:16:12. > :16:15.have got to watch out for them. the moment the youngsters are in

:16:15. > :16:21.the gregarious nests so if you see a lot of gregarious caterpillars in

:16:21. > :16:26.oak trees, let the environmental health know. Do they sting you?

:16:26. > :16:32.they have little tiny hairs that can fly off and get into your

:16:32. > :16:38.throat. Really? They are not the only thing giving the Forestry

:16:38. > :16:42.Commission a headache at the minute. The Asian longhorn beetle as of

:16:42. > :16:47.20th March 12 they recently found in Tunbridge Wells. It doesn't

:16:47. > :16:57.cause harm to humans. They were found coming from China in packing

:16:57. > :16:58.

:16:58. > :17:07.crates. They live in here for several years. It takes them a long

:17:07. > :17:17.time to turn into adults. This is the thing that causes the damage to

:17:17. > :17:24.

:17:24. > :17:32.the trees. Where is the mouth? chomps through the wood amount they

:17:32. > :17:40.caused so much damage that whole trees had to be chopped down within

:17:40. > :17:50.100 metres radius. They ended up with 65 trees which were found and

:17:50. > :17:50.

:17:50. > :17:58.they could end up, colonising Britain. Potentially they are still

:17:58. > :18:08.here. We don't want you to feel left out so we did get you a

:18:08. > :18:09.

:18:09. > :18:16.stetson as well. Larry might want to shape it. I met him before we

:18:16. > :18:26.came on and he put his hand out for a fist pomp and I shook it. I am so

:18:26. > :18:29.

:18:29. > :18:39.pathetic. The only one today! of people at home have got their

:18:39. > :18:39.

:18:39. > :18:47.stetsons out. This is Chris, and she went to the

:18:47. > :18:57.trouble of taking a photo of you and went upstairs wearing this top,

:18:57. > :18:57.

:18:57. > :19:02.rodeo queen 1978, unbelievable. This is Emily from Horsham. You are

:19:02. > :19:07.at an icon, Larry. Time now to celebrate the work of an inventor

:19:07. > :19:14.from Derby who went to extraordinary lengths to save lives.

:19:14. > :19:18.Over to Marty Jopson. Edgar Pask was called the bravest man in the

:19:18. > :19:23.RAF never to have flown an aeroplane. During World War Two he

:19:23. > :19:27.put his life on the line many times but his research led to the

:19:27. > :19:37.development of the modern life jacket and that has saved countless

:19:37. > :19:41.

:19:41. > :19:45.lives around the world. In the 1940s, Edgar Pask was investigating

:19:45. > :19:51.ways of improving the survival chances of aircrew who had baled

:19:51. > :19:56.out of their aeroplanes. This included coming into the sea to

:19:56. > :20:04.watch people being rescued. He was presented with a disturbing sight -

:20:04. > :20:08.men wearing life jackets, but face down in the water, dead. The fear

:20:08. > :20:11.was that they died not from injuries sustained in battle but

:20:11. > :20:17.because the life jackets they were wearing didn't keep their heads

:20:17. > :20:27.above water if they blacked out. Circumstances surrounding these

:20:27. > :20:27.

:20:27. > :20:32.deaths have to be handled carefully. He began his research, but there

:20:32. > :20:40.was a problem. Nobody had found an accurate way of testing how to do

:20:40. > :20:44.this in the 1940s. The reason being that imitating an unconscious

:20:45. > :20:48.person in water is impossible because the body will always

:20:48. > :20:53.automatically protect itself, giving on realistic results. He

:20:53. > :20:58.realised there was only one way to test how an unconscious body reacts

:20:58. > :21:03.when it is wearing a lifejacket, and that was to test it on an

:21:03. > :21:10.unconscious human being, and who better than himself? That was his

:21:10. > :21:16.Eureka moment. He became the guinea-pig for his own experiment,

:21:16. > :21:19.which these remarkable photographs show. He got dressed up in the full

:21:19. > :21:27.battle out for it and put whatever flotation device they were testing,

:21:27. > :21:33.then laid down at the side of the pool and was anaesthetised. Once

:21:33. > :21:38.out cold, he was set adrift in the pool. The only thing keeping him

:21:38. > :21:44.alive was the tune that fed him air and more anaesthetic to keep him

:21:44. > :21:51.knocked out. Sometimes he sank, sometimes flipped over, sometimes

:21:51. > :21:55.floated nicely. A very dangerous experiment to do. After every Test,

:21:55. > :22:00.Edgar Pask had to be hospitalised but this didn't put him off pushing

:22:00. > :22:05.things further. He in studios were already making propaganda films but

:22:05. > :22:11.he got them to contribute in a different way, by commandeering

:22:11. > :22:16.their wave tank. The model ships normally filmed being tossed around

:22:16. > :22:20.for high seas were replaced by a knocked out Edgar Pask. This is

:22:20. > :22:25.very rare footage of him in conditions you would find in the

:22:25. > :22:29.Channel. All of these experiments gave vital information about how

:22:29. > :22:34.life jacket of the altered so they always looked unconscious people on

:22:34. > :22:39.to their back. He had to play around with the buoyancy quite a

:22:39. > :22:44.lot, but one thing he found was the optimum place to put it allowed the

:22:44. > :22:50.body to rotate and float at about 45 degrees, allowing your airways

:22:50. > :22:55.to stay clear. By placing a crutch strap to keep the lifejacket in

:22:55. > :23:00.place actually allowed the lifejacket to rotate successfully.

:23:00. > :23:05.His pioneering work started the ball rolling for the life jackets

:23:05. > :23:15.we see all over the world today, including these ones worn by the

:23:15. > :23:15.

:23:15. > :23:22.RNLI. What better place to test it out than their centre in Poole.

:23:22. > :23:30.They can recreate a storm. Even in these high seas, I feel completely

:23:30. > :23:39.safe. This buoyancy device here keeps me off my back. If I turnover,

:23:39. > :23:43.it just pops me over again. It is all thanks to Edgar Pask. There is

:23:43. > :23:47.no doubt these experiments took their toll on his health, but by

:23:47. > :23:55.putting his life on the line for others, it allowed lifejackets

:23:55. > :24:00.today to save hundreds if not thousands of lives.

:24:00. > :24:03.That film was extraordinary. Next time you are on the aeroplane and

:24:04. > :24:10.watching them give the demonstration, think of Edgar Pask.

:24:10. > :24:14.We have mentioned how big Dallas was in 1980, so big that thousands

:24:14. > :24:20.of people entered a competition run by the BBC show Nationwide to send

:24:20. > :24:25.a family out to Southfork to meet the whole cast of Dallas. This is

:24:25. > :24:31.the story of how Nationwide followed her mother and daughter

:24:31. > :24:41.from Crewe and travelled them out to Texas. Leonora and Katie were

:24:41. > :24:46.

:24:46. > :24:50.stars from the moment they landed. Dallas, at last! Leonora was not

:24:50. > :24:55.just a secretary from an English town, she was a celebrity - they

:24:55. > :24:59.were fascinated by her. By the end of the first day, they could have

:24:59. > :25:09.been few of the citizens here who didn't know of the gun and trees

:25:09. > :25:26.

:25:26. > :25:32.from Crewe -- gallantries. Hello, it is charming to meet you. This is

:25:32. > :25:39.my daughter, Katie. Can I give you a little something, which is a very

:25:39. > :25:44.small token. It is a shilling, and English chilling. I hope you will

:25:44. > :25:49.keep that and sometimes remember me. I certainly will. It is something

:25:49. > :25:59.you don't dream will happen to you. We really are here, it is

:25:59. > :26:00.

:26:00. > :26:08.incredible. 32 years on, Leonora and daughter Katie are here! Nice

:26:08. > :26:18.to see you. There you are, old friends now. How good to see you.

:26:18. > :26:19.

:26:19. > :26:28.I'm bumping like that because I am strange. Or cool! That kind, did

:26:28. > :26:33.that go where the hats went? I hope not! For how did you feel seeing

:26:33. > :26:38.that because it was a long time ago? You yes, 32 years. Was a

:26:38. > :26:44.strange watching it back? Embarrassing. We will come back to

:26:44. > :26:49.that in a minute because the idea was to come up with a plot of what

:26:49. > :26:53.happened when JR got shot, so what was your idea? That nobody else did

:26:53. > :26:59.it, but in fact he was not really shot but he was wearing a bullet-

:26:59. > :27:06.proof vest and a corrupt policeman shot him, but of course he just

:27:06. > :27:12.fell down. He wasn't shot, he got better. That is pretty good. I was

:27:12. > :27:16.the only one... Everybody else said... For can they use that in

:27:16. > :27:22.the new series? You should be in the new series, you look great in

:27:22. > :27:28.that hat. Use four the competition, and then

:27:28. > :27:33.Katie you were dragged in to go with your mum. We still look a bit

:27:33. > :27:37.embarrassed by the whole thing. Was it traumatic? It was very

:27:37. > :27:47.overwhelming. People didn't get on aeroplanes and fly halfway across

:27:47. > :27:47.

:27:47. > :27:52.the world to meet stars and it was just a total shock. Were we

:27:52. > :27:58.everything you expected us to be? Be Go and better. Did you get

:27:58. > :28:05.sucked in with your whole life, Dallas, Leonora? It is a big place,

:28:05. > :28:10.Big Country, big people. Everything was so big for a midget like me.

:28:10. > :28:17.The must be over the moon it is coming back? Yes, we did know it

:28:17. > :28:20.was coming back. It is nice to have you both here. We have been asking

:28:20. > :28:24.people all night to send in pictures and we have had a lot. The

:28:24. > :28:29.most successful call out we have most successful call out we have

:28:29. > :28:35.ever done apparently. This is William from Norfolk.

:28:35. > :28:41.This is Samantha. This is Ali the sheriff from Twickenham. Owen from

:28:41. > :28:47.Liverpool, or is it Usain Bolt? For these were taken whilst watching

:28:47. > :28:52.the television. There is Robert in Glasgow. Nick from Crouch End in