:00:19. > :00:22.Hello and welcome to The One Show with Matt Baker. And Alex Jones.
:00:22. > :00:26.Tonight's guest has worked in a shoe factory. He's been a
:00:26. > :00:29.footballer. He was in the RAF. had a chat show that ran for 45
:00:29. > :00:39.years. Oh, and he dated Shirley Bassey. It could only be Des
:00:39. > :00:44.
:00:44. > :00:49.O'Connor! Welcome, Des. This is like a second home for you, isn't
:00:49. > :00:59.it? Most was done for the other channel but I started my talk show
:00:59. > :01:06.with the BBC. 1963. 1684, it was! Were have a lovely picture of you
:01:06. > :01:12.squeezed between two cheeks. Which moment really stands out for you?
:01:12. > :01:19.It would have to be an audience with... I kept putting that off and
:01:19. > :01:24.then your wife said you have been rehearsing for that for 45 years,
:01:24. > :01:29.just do it! I could see all of these famous faces and that can be
:01:29. > :01:39.twitchy. My little girl was interviewing everyone after saying
:01:39. > :01:40.
:01:40. > :01:45."what was my dad like?" I will be finding out how you personally
:01:45. > :01:49.inspired Downton Abbey, don't say any more now. We may be a nation of
:01:49. > :01:53.pet lovers, but alarmingly the number of cats abandoned across the
:01:53. > :01:56.country is on the rise. Simon Boazman has been finding out why
:01:56. > :02:01.cats have been causing a problem on the street and what we can do to
:02:01. > :02:07.help. There is a growing menace on our
:02:07. > :02:12.streets. The population of stray and feral cats appears to be
:02:12. > :02:16.getting bigger, and soon we could have pussies galore. It is
:02:16. > :02:25.estimated there are around 2 million stray cats in the UK at the
:02:25. > :02:28.moment, and capped charities are really struggling to cope. Part of
:02:28. > :02:33.problem is the breeding rate of caps, who frankly give rabbits a
:02:33. > :02:43.run for their money. One cat that has not been neutered can produce
:02:43. > :02:49.18 kittens in the year. In Chester, a group of feral cats have been
:02:49. > :02:53.creating noisy, smelly havoc in the back garden of Mrs Davis. Charity
:02:53. > :02:57.Cats Protection have been called in to help, and I will be giving them
:02:57. > :03:04.a hand. I have been practising my reactions all night because today
:03:05. > :03:13.we will be catching some feral felines. If we do, we will be doing
:03:13. > :03:17.something unthinkable to their unmentionables. Feral cat defer
:03:17. > :03:24.from stray cat as they were born in the wild and will never be tamed,
:03:24. > :03:30.but stray cats could be rehomed. How difficult is it to trap a feral
:03:30. > :03:35.cat? The two is not necessarily that easy. Obviously food is the
:03:35. > :03:40.main incentive. Because of the cover they feel quite safe, and
:03:40. > :03:49.there is a trail of food to entice them in. How Ancell and Gretel.
:03:49. > :03:54.That is how it works. They walk into a trap, and it works the
:03:54. > :04:02.mechanism to shut the trap. there any cat that you see around a
:04:02. > :04:11.lot? One that you really want. Mother cat is what we call her. She
:04:11. > :04:15.is probably in the bushes, or watching. Cats Protection work to
:04:15. > :04:21.neuter a cat every three minutes but they can only do so much in the
:04:21. > :04:25.face of cats' breeding rates and things can get out of hand. You get
:04:25. > :04:28.to the stage where there are not enough resources and also an
:04:28. > :04:32.increase in disease with an increase in the density of
:04:32. > :04:37.population. We get more caps becoming ill, as well as other fat
:04:37. > :04:42.there would be more nuisance from urine spraying, that sort of thing.
:04:42. > :04:47.If you have got a feral colony at the end of the garden, what can
:04:47. > :04:54.people do? The most important thing is that people should get their own
:04:54. > :04:59.domestic cat neutered, and to have it done before they reach puberty.
:04:59. > :05:04.Sadly we are seeing more abandoned strays, and I do think the economic
:05:04. > :05:11.problems are adding to that, then those kittens that are born in the
:05:11. > :05:16.wild will become the start of new feral colonies. We can't neuter one
:05:16. > :05:21.if we can't catch one. It is not just the rampant cats themselves to
:05:22. > :05:26.blame for their numbers. Domestic owners have a role to play as well,
:05:26. > :05:34.and there are concerns people are not neutering their caps at all.
:05:34. > :05:40.lot of the time when people phone the Animal Centre they don't want
:05:40. > :05:44.to neuter their caps, sometimes simply because they don't want to.
:05:44. > :05:51.Rescue homes are finding it tough, with some charities reporting the
:05:51. > :05:56.amount of caps they are taking in as up by 50%. Hazel and Pauline run
:05:56. > :06:00.a rescue centre that takes in both feral and abandoned cats. The cats
:06:00. > :06:05.that were feral if you hadn't brought them here, how much of a
:06:05. > :06:10.pressure are they putting on your resources? There are genuine cases
:06:10. > :06:17.every single day where it is a bereavement or analogy or a phobia,
:06:17. > :06:22.and we have to say no. Back in Chester, feral cats are keeping
:06:22. > :06:27.away from the trap. I can't say I blame them, but one of the team
:06:27. > :06:32.caught previously is getting released after being neutered. Cats
:06:32. > :06:37.Protection spend �5.5 million last year neutering. It is a constant
:06:37. > :06:40.battle in the face of breeding rates and reluctant owners, and if
:06:40. > :06:45.lost it could lead to more caps than animal-loving Britain can
:06:45. > :06:49.handle. If you are worried that you can't
:06:49. > :06:55.afford to get your cat neutered, please speak to an animal charity
:06:55. > :06:58.for advice. Des, you are embarking on a brand
:06:58. > :07:06.new project, so you started rehearsals yesterday for Dreamcoats
:07:06. > :07:11.and Petticoats. Don't ask what I am wearing! It will open at the
:07:11. > :07:18.Playhouse in London on 3rd October. Give an idea of what the musical
:07:18. > :07:24.was about. I have done a few shows in the West End, so here I am a new
:07:24. > :07:29.boy in a musical and I am hoping to win most promising newcomer.
:07:29. > :07:36.Basically it is a fun show. When I went to see it, I thought well I
:07:36. > :07:42.really like this? There are teenagers, and it is just a fun
:07:42. > :07:49.show. A very talented cast of musicians, singers and actresses,
:07:49. > :07:53.and I am playing two parts. varying age as well, a 40 year-old
:07:53. > :07:58.and a 60 year old. And they are wrong on both counts. That is a
:07:58. > :08:06.complement in itself. I am really looking forward to it because I am
:08:06. > :08:13.getting to see new songs. I have got to do a concert in Cardiff on
:08:13. > :08:18.Saturday night, and there I work with real musos, but there are so
:08:19. > :08:24.many brilliant songs to be doing. Suddenly I really feel I might be
:08:24. > :08:29.40 again. Seriously, with no disrespect you are three months off
:08:29. > :08:38.80. There are two is just the number. But you are still sparkling.
:08:38. > :08:44.You have a young wife as well, and is your some seven? Seven tomorrow.
:08:44. > :08:49.You will be doing eight shows a week. Ruling. It is all right and I
:08:49. > :08:55.don't mind the driving. You have to go to people's towns and it will be
:08:55. > :08:59.just great. It is something new, a new challenge. That is the lovely
:08:59. > :09:06.thing about show business, you have never done it all. There is always
:09:06. > :09:12.something new to drive. Let's hope two turn up next time! Speaking
:09:12. > :09:18.about your wife, explain how you managed to inspire Downton abbey.
:09:18. > :09:24.asked her to marry me, and I didn't rush because we had been engaged 17
:09:25. > :09:30.years, then we got married four years ago on September 16th, 2007.
:09:30. > :09:35.It is just such a lovely place. I gave the producer a clip of part of
:09:35. > :09:43.the wedding. So you got married where they film Downton Abbey.
:09:43. > :09:47.There you are, looking lovely. is definitely more upstairs than
:09:48. > :09:55.downstairs, to be fair. There is a lovely moment when Jodie was
:09:55. > :10:02.getting very emotional during the bows, and you could see she was
:10:02. > :10:06.about to cry, and he shouted out "mummy, I love you". The key to
:10:06. > :10:12.success is longevity, but in your time you have had some critical
:10:12. > :10:20.fans. Let's have a look. That is the best record Des has ever made.
:10:20. > :10:27.There is nothing on it at all! Where did you get it from? Books.
:10:27. > :10:34.Did you need a prescription? I got it at the poison counter. How do
:10:34. > :10:44.you do? Have you seen his nose. It looks like Concorde coming out of
:10:44. > :10:44.
:10:44. > :10:53.the hangar for the first time. And those teeth! What's the matter?
:10:53. > :10:58.like him. Magical. We shouldn't really naff. They were special.
:10:58. > :11:03.Whatever you said to Eric, he had an answer. I once said I have
:11:03. > :11:10.become a limited company, he said "so you should, you are limited
:11:10. > :11:16.performer". Sometimes the kid's got the bad end of it because kids at
:11:16. > :11:22.school can be very cruel, and my mum got uppity about it, what is
:11:22. > :11:26.that man say about you? But he was a lovely man. Coming up, Christine
:11:26. > :11:30.Walkden is here to tell us about what we need to do in our gardens
:11:30. > :11:34.in the light of the news today that the second autumn is here.
:11:34. > :11:39.first she has been wandering around another celebrity's garden.
:11:39. > :11:47.If you pick the right time to come and visit this garden, and wait
:11:48. > :11:54.very quietly, you are likely to see some beautiful guests. This is a
:11:54. > :11:59.garden for people who loved everything about nature. It is in
:11:59. > :12:04.Norfolk and belongs to Liza Goddard. As an actress, she has always been
:12:04. > :12:09.a favoured, but for 20 years she was also president of a wildlife
:12:09. > :12:19.organisation. Her husband David made the classic wildlife film,
:12:19. > :12:20.
:12:20. > :12:27.Tajo the otter. What does this garden say about you? I hope it
:12:27. > :12:33.says variety, colour, vibrancy. The most important thing is that it is
:12:33. > :12:38.my sanctuary. I had breast cancer 11 years ago now, and at that time
:12:38. > :12:47.the garden was extremely important because it was it safe haven and a
:12:47. > :12:52.place to heal. Her garden is also a sanctuary for her rescue dogs, and
:12:52. > :12:57.for a few plants that you might not expect to see in a well cared for
:12:57. > :13:02.garden. I like the fact you have some weeds in your garden, that
:13:02. > :13:09.speaks of a true gardener, in my opinion, that you appreciate both
:13:09. > :13:14.the culture and wildlife in nature. This is a beautiful plant and most
:13:14. > :13:23.people pull it out. It is statuesque and beautiful. At the
:13:23. > :13:32.bumblebees love it. Here we have the herb garden and we have some
:13:32. > :13:37.weeds in their. A little tip for you on the stocks, though they are
:13:37. > :13:41.scented they won't attract money in sacked because double flowers tend
:13:41. > :13:45.to be sterile so you don't get much nectar. I thought because it was
:13:45. > :13:52.highly scented it would attract them. No, because sometimes with
:13:52. > :13:59.the amount of sent the nectar is reduced. A beautiful pergola leads
:13:59. > :14:04.you through to one of Liza Goddard's favourite spots. This is
:14:04. > :14:12.my collection of dragons, they remind me of places. This area has
:14:12. > :14:16.a devilish quality to it. Yes, and best of all is the view. It must be
:14:16. > :14:26.beautiful in the evening to come down here, have a gin and tonic,
:14:26. > :14:36.
:14:36. > :14:41.beautiful scenery. Labradors at We put up a nest box, and within
:14:41. > :14:47.two days, they moved in. That is why it is so important that people
:14:47. > :14:52.put up nest boxes. The barn owl is particularly endangered. The nest
:14:52. > :15:02.box has saved them. It must look beautiful at night, with them
:15:02. > :15:08.gliding over, swooping in. When I was ill, my garden was so important
:15:08. > :15:16.to me. I do think that nature has a very healing aspect for us. We need
:15:16. > :15:20.to sit and be quiet and just look at things growing, and stop the
:15:20. > :15:26.head mind and start listening with your heart of mind. As they grow a
:15:26. > :15:30.garden, and grow a soul? Beautiful. I love that.
:15:30. > :15:36.I am sure most of the UK is feeling peaceful after watching that. And
:15:36. > :15:45.you love weeds? Of course I love weeds. She is sitting next to me!
:15:45. > :15:50.What a specimen. We have a picture of your garden, Des. I just need
:15:50. > :15:54.you to invite me round. What would you do? I would have lots of shrubs
:15:54. > :15:58.and flowers. And there would find out what tickles your fancy. That
:15:58. > :16:08.has nothing to do with the garden. You don't know if you have never
:16:08. > :16:18.had it done. I like it when its nose. Then my garden looks as good
:16:18. > :16:21.
:16:21. > :16:25.as anybody else's. -- when it snows. The job is yours if you wish. That
:16:25. > :16:29.garden was beautiful. What is this news about a double autumn,
:16:29. > :16:33.Christine? Some authorities are saying that because we saw and
:16:33. > :16:39.believes a change in August, they thought autumn was here, but it was
:16:39. > :16:43.not. That is the plants' reaction to shortage of water. We are now
:16:43. > :16:47.beginning to see subtle changes of colour that are due to changes in
:16:47. > :16:52.temperature and conversion of sugar into starch. So autumn does not
:16:52. > :16:59.really start until we get cold weather. The des was a gardener,
:16:59. > :17:02.what should he be doing? He should be collecting seeds. Things like
:17:02. > :17:08.delphiniums and bedding plants. Collect them when the flowers
:17:08. > :17:16.finished dying of, so the seed capsules turn from green to brown.
:17:16. > :17:21.Coalite them in envelopes, label them. Tie them up and then put a
:17:21. > :17:24.bit of silicate, the things you get in your hand bags and suitcases.
:17:24. > :17:32.Put them in the bottom of the fridge, and you have lovely seats.
:17:32. > :17:38.What are you laughing at? I am imagining myself looking for seeds.
:17:38. > :17:42.The other thing you could do is beautiful scented roses. Take-off
:17:42. > :17:50.the top of the flower. Have a sniff of. What a button hole it would
:17:50. > :17:57.make. We can propagate these so easily. Just divide a stalker in
:17:58. > :18:04.half. Careful! I know what I'm doing. Strip off the leaves, take-
:18:04. > :18:09.off the thorns. Then pop that in a pot and by next May, it will have
:18:09. > :18:14.grown and you will have new roses. The other thing to do at this time
:18:14. > :18:18.of year is continue to plant a few lettuce seeds so you have fresh
:18:18. > :18:27.salad. You could have a window-box. You could have it all around your
:18:27. > :18:33.swimming pool, looking glorious. There is plenty to do. Can I keep
:18:33. > :18:43.this? Christine, last night you launched balloon week for us.
:18:43. > :18:44.
:18:44. > :18:47.at those strips of colour. British tulips at their best. Well, tonight
:18:47. > :18:57.it is Jamie Crawford's turn. He get a bird's-eye view of one of the
:18:57. > :19:02.most famous and mysterious landmarks in the world.
:19:02. > :19:07.In 1783, the Montgolfier brothers took to the skies in the very first
:19:07. > :19:10.hot-air balloon. Realising bombs could be dropped from the air, the
:19:10. > :19:16.French military what turn them into weapons of war. When the rest of
:19:16. > :19:19.the world found out about the French error static and lighter
:19:19. > :19:23.than air flying device, it sparked concern. But the hot air balloon
:19:23. > :19:30.had a major drawback that made it virtually useless for invasion. It
:19:30. > :19:34.was completely at the mercy of the prevailing wind. Nevertheless, the
:19:34. > :19:39.balloon was used on both sides of the Channel for aerial
:19:39. > :19:42.reconnaissance. In Britain, by 1906, the Royal Engineers balloon caught
:19:42. > :19:48.up to this guy, testing the military applications of aerial
:19:48. > :19:52.photography. And by chance, they chose as their subject one of
:19:52. > :19:56.Britain's oldest archaeological landmarks, Stonehenge. But no one
:19:56. > :20:00.could predict that these images would open up a vivid window into
:20:00. > :20:05.our ancient past and give rise to a whole new school of science, aerial
:20:05. > :20:10.archaeology. So what exactly did early archaeologists see in wartime
:20:10. > :20:13.surveillance maps which got them so excited? Helen wick stead is an
:20:13. > :20:17.aerial archaeologist. When you think of archaeologists, most
:20:17. > :20:21.people think of people are digging around in a muddy trench, not up in
:20:21. > :20:26.a hot air balloon. What does an aerial view bring you as an
:20:26. > :20:31.archaeologist? Aerial photography helps us because we get a sense
:20:31. > :20:35.from aerial photographs of how a site relates to another site, how a
:20:35. > :20:38.road might relate to a settlement. It gives you a different way of
:20:38. > :20:42.approaching the relationships between people and places. But the
:20:42. > :20:47.real advantage comes from detecting a phenomenon known as crop marks,
:20:47. > :20:51.almost invisible from the ground. When you have buried archaeological
:20:51. > :20:57.remains, they often contain water. That has different effects on plant
:20:57. > :21:01.growth than the surrounding areas. That line is one of the earliest
:21:01. > :21:07.sites to be identified with a crop mark. You are picking up changes in
:21:07. > :21:12.the vegetation that are causing that. These are things you do not
:21:12. > :21:16.notice from ground level. Right now, we are sitting on the Bank of a
:21:16. > :21:21.processional way that goes up to Stonehenge, called the Stonehenge
:21:21. > :21:26.Avenue. It goes off down there and curves around here, and then there
:21:26. > :21:29.is a crop Mark heading towards the river. Beyond those trees, you
:21:29. > :21:34.could only see it from the air. Aerial images revealed an important
:21:34. > :21:38.link between Stonehenge and the river. Many experts now believe
:21:38. > :21:42.this was how the giant stones found their way to the heart of Salisbury.
:21:42. > :21:52.We are going to follow in the footsteps of the Royal Engineers'
:21:52. > :21:52.
:21:53. > :21:56.first aerial photos, taken more than 100 years ago. Look at that.
:21:56. > :22:00.Stonehenge was a magnet for activity. The Bronze Age burial
:22:00. > :22:05.mounds, there are hundreds of them in the area. Talk us through what
:22:05. > :22:12.we can spot from here? The obvious thing is Stonehenge itself. But we
:22:12. > :22:15.can also see the bank and ditch around it. The Avenue coming out of
:22:15. > :22:21.Stonehenge, there are two lines. The avenue is visible as an
:22:21. > :22:25.earthwork. For some distance, the rest of the course is one of the
:22:25. > :22:31.earliest discoveries of the burial archaeology. It runs for three
:22:31. > :22:36.kilometres in total. It starts with the gap in those trees, and
:22:37. > :22:43.continues behind us to a gap in the trees further up. It is a monument
:22:43. > :22:48.that is earlier than Stonehenge. See that circle? That is a Bronze
:22:48. > :22:52.Age cemetery. There is a whole cluster of them. Some have survived
:22:52. > :22:57.better than others. With crop marks, although you can see the colour and
:22:57. > :23:01.height differences it causes on the ground, it is once you get a bit of
:23:01. > :23:04.hype that you can see the patterns they make. If you are getting up at
:23:04. > :23:08.dawn for anything, I highly recommend that you get in a balloon
:23:08. > :23:12.over Stonehenge. It is incredible. The hot air balloon may have had a
:23:12. > :23:15.chequered history when it comes to warfare. But as a time machine, it
:23:15. > :23:19.has revealed a view of the world that historians could only dream of,
:23:19. > :23:27.and shown us this ancient landscape that has always been right under
:23:27. > :23:32.our noses. Have you been up in a hot air
:23:32. > :23:41.balloon? I am all for hot-air balloons. Having been the father of
:23:41. > :23:47.the bride when my daughter got married, whenever -- I had a pain
:23:47. > :23:53.in my wallet. Richard Branson had a ceremony where you could get
:23:53. > :24:00.married in a balloon, but only two people were allowed. I am all for
:24:00. > :24:05.that! So you are busy rehearsing, but you have also try your hand at
:24:05. > :24:09.some poetry recently? Every time something silly happens in my life,
:24:09. > :24:14.the thing is to write about it. I have just come back from Spain.
:24:14. > :24:17.Security has gone mad now. They have now got a thing called a full-
:24:17. > :24:25.body scanner. It can see right through your clothes. It shows all
:24:25. > :24:30.your lumps and bendy bits, and I am a bit shy about those. Then they
:24:30. > :24:34.took away my nose clippers. Saw them as a threat, I suppose, like I
:24:34. > :24:42.might burst in on the captain and pull all the hairs out of his nose!
:24:42. > :24:48.One thing you are not shy about is going grey. I am not shy about that.
:24:48. > :24:53.You still have a full head of hair. Have a look at this. This is
:24:53. > :24:57.Britain's oldest supermodel, Daphne Selfe. She was strutting her stuff
:24:57. > :25:05.yesterday for London Fashion Week. She is 83 years old. Are you try to
:25:05. > :25:08.fix me up? No, you are married! With agencies signing up silver-
:25:08. > :25:12.haired models to fund their new advert campaigns, being Cray --
:25:12. > :25:15.being grey has never been so cool. Is it time to ditch the dye? We
:25:15. > :25:19.sent Joe Crowley to Coventry to see if you agree.
:25:19. > :25:23.As the fashion world begins to embrace the silver Barnet, what do
:25:23. > :25:28.women on the high street think about their greying locks? It is
:25:28. > :25:31.your perception of what great represents. Getting older. There is
:25:31. > :25:35.a perception that there is no place for older women, so women want to
:25:35. > :25:40.hang onto their youth. I have never coloured my hair. I believe in
:25:40. > :25:45.growing old gracefully. How old were you when you found your first
:25:45. > :25:51.grey hair? Probably early twenties. A long time ago. Have you found any
:25:52. > :26:00.yet? Yes, two. My partner and I argue. He claims he has found one
:26:00. > :26:05.in my hair, but it is blonde. have mine coloured, as you can see.
:26:05. > :26:10.Looks lovely. What happened to those two grey
:26:10. > :26:13.hairs? Pulled them out! There is no doubt that few of the women I met
:26:13. > :26:19.feel brave enough to expose their grey hairs to the world. So I guess
:26:19. > :26:26.it is up to me to lead the grey revolution.
:26:26. > :26:30.How many have I got? Only about two or three. You are all right. Des,
:26:30. > :26:40.one of the many things you have done in your incredible career at
:26:40. > :26:48.
:26:48. > :26:58.is present game shows like Take Your Pick. You did not say yes or
:26:58. > :26:59.
:26:59. > :27:04.no. Do you go to movies a lot? really. No. Do you like spicy food?
:27:04. > :27:09.There you were with your lovely hostess Jodie, who became your wife.
:27:09. > :27:18.We are going to play you at your own game. I will be your hostess.
:27:18. > :27:22.Is he going to be me? Who knows? It is time to play this. Yes, Des, I
:27:23. > :27:30.will be you. For one night only. You know this game better than we
:27:30. > :27:39.do. Try not to say yes or no. We will clock up how many times you
:27:39. > :27:46.say yes or no in a minute. Are you ready? I am ready. Have you ever
:27:46. > :27:52.done this live? No. Yes! Ready? The Times starts now. Is your middle
:27:52. > :27:58.name Bernard? It certainly is. Bernard? Bernard. Bernard? Bernard.
:27:58. > :28:05.Where we are borne? In a bed. it Stepney in east London? It was
:28:05. > :28:10.Stepney. This is harder than I thought! Do you ever go back there?
:28:10. > :28:16.Occasionally. But there is no plaque on a wall. Is it true that
:28:17. > :28:24.your teeth cost �5? What? Your teeth. My teeth? They cost more
:28:24. > :28:28.than �5. I have an implant. Do you have a sister called Pat? I have a
:28:28. > :28:34.sister called Pat. She's called Pat was my she is called Pat. Were you
:28:34. > :28:41.a pilot in the Royal Air Force? Yes! He is she 20 months younger
:28:41. > :28:47.than you? She is 20 months younger than me, yes. Have you been married
:28:47. > :28:55.many times? KLAXON.
:28:55. > :28:59.Fair play. Only two gongs. It is not easy. Bears, it has been
:28:59. > :29:03.brilliant to have you have. You can see Des in Dreamboats And
:29:03. > :29:13.Petticoats at the Playhouse in London from 3rd October. Is that
:29:13. > :29:15.
:29:15. > :29:19.right? Yes. Bears, you are going to a costume fitting tomorrow.