:00:19. > :00:25.Hello and welcome to the One Show with Matt Baker. And Alex Jones.
:00:26. > :00:29.When America's hottest young star asked tonight's guest to join her
:00:30. > :00:34.smash at show about a group of bright 20 something women, how long
:00:35. > :00:42.do you think it took him to say yes? Why don't we asking? It is Richard E
:00:43. > :00:46.Grant! Yes! Rigid, good to see you! Girls is an incredible show, how
:00:47. > :00:53.long did it take you to say yes, I will come to New York. A quarter of
:00:54. > :00:57.a nanosecond. That quick! Good! We will talk about it more later, and
:00:58. > :01:01.we have got a bit of a challenge for you, because we understand that you
:01:02. > :01:06.have this remarkable ability to smell things. What is that about?! I
:01:07. > :01:10.obsessively smell things, I don't know whether I have any ability, but
:01:11. > :01:16.he will put me to the test and obviously shame me. Used and lots of
:01:17. > :01:22.time in London and New York, two very different cities, which smells
:01:23. > :01:30.better? London. Can you describe the smell? Yeah... No I am going to
:01:31. > :01:36.sound like somebody describing wine! A touch of ginger and a bit of...
:01:37. > :01:43.No, it just has a great, it smells like London, you step out and you
:01:44. > :01:48.know you are here, not there. As Matt said, there is a test later. We
:01:49. > :01:52.have had a long commute today. We are slightly tired, to be honest,
:01:53. > :01:58.because we woke up in Ayrshire, had a full Scottish. I had porridge.
:01:59. > :02:03.Then we had a bit of a runaround. We were under starter's orders with
:02:04. > :02:06.Prince Charles, of all people. Here we are, ready to go. There were
:02:07. > :02:15.quite a few of us, more on that later. Richard was just smelling the
:02:16. > :02:22.sofa! And? It has been recently cleaned. It is quite new, that is
:02:23. > :02:29.why. We are in our third week now, only ten or so bottoms on there.
:02:30. > :02:34.Many local authorities are facing tough decisions about what cuts to
:02:35. > :02:37.make in order to balance the books. Councils have already axed millions
:02:38. > :02:41.of pounds' worth of jobs and services, but is there a smarter way
:02:42. > :02:47.to save money? Why not cut the councillors themselves? Here is
:02:48. > :02:51.Justin. It is like being a police officer,
:02:52. > :02:56.you go out on the beat and deal with whatever crops up. A good counsellor
:02:57. > :02:59.is always busy. A self-made man with business
:03:00. > :03:04.interests in the hospitality trade, John spent two and a half days a
:03:05. > :03:08.week on council work. At around ?13,000 per year, he thinks he is
:03:09. > :03:13.good value for the people of Bradford, but not everyone is
:03:14. > :03:20.convinced. Which raises an interesting question, do any of us
:03:21. > :03:23.actually need the number of local councillors we have got? Couldn't we
:03:24. > :03:28.cut back a few, maybe save a bit of money? In Bradford, there are 90
:03:29. > :03:33.councillors, three in each of the district's 30 wards. Across England,
:03:34. > :03:35.there are roughly 3000 people to everyone counsellor. Some
:03:36. > :03:40.authorities have already cut the numb of councillors to save money,
:03:41. > :03:45.but John thinks, in Bradford, this would be a disaster. He is sure he
:03:46. > :03:50.will convince me of his worth by the end of the day. Good morning! First
:03:51. > :03:54.up, he is visiting a block of flats where residents have been
:03:55. > :03:59.complaining about mould and damp. That has got mould on the inside of
:04:00. > :04:03.it, hasn't it? And that window above it is full of mould. I come from the
:04:04. > :04:09.angle that they have had their day, and to be blunt about it, they want
:04:10. > :04:17.pulling down. Then it is off to his office to catch up with the day's
:04:18. > :04:21.e-mails. We have got 86. 86 e-mails? That is quite a lot, and what is
:04:22. > :04:25.that going to be, constituents writing to you, council business? It
:04:26. > :04:30.will be many and varied. I have got to be honest, not all of this is
:04:31. > :04:35.scintillating, is it? If you scan through, there are things that you
:04:36. > :04:39.can make a difference too, and you can help with. The call to cut the
:04:40. > :04:43.number of district councillors by a third in Bradford came from Judith,
:04:44. > :04:48.the Lib Dem Deputy Mayor of Keighley. She believes that this
:04:49. > :04:53.will save the council over ?400,000 per year. We are thinking of cutting
:04:54. > :04:57.social care, planning to cut youth services, and yet they are not
:04:58. > :05:02.thinking of cutting their own pay, they are not thinking of cutting
:05:03. > :05:05.their own numbers. If you reduce the number of councillors, you will not
:05:06. > :05:10.have enough people to run the committee is and airy committees and
:05:11. > :05:15.planning. It would be a nightmare. -- area committees. A good
:05:16. > :05:20.counsellor is always busy. I agree with that, but I do not think they
:05:21. > :05:24.are always busy, draw your own conclusions! John, you put in a lot
:05:25. > :05:31.of work, you work very hard, but not everybody works as hard as you. If
:05:32. > :05:34.somebody is swinging the lead... Maybe we should have some attendance
:05:35. > :05:44.charts. Do you mean to say you don't?! Only on major council
:05:45. > :05:46.meetings. There should be a benchmark for measuring
:05:47. > :05:50.performance. A large percentage of them would be well above that
:05:51. > :05:54.benchmark. And attendance is an issue. In
:05:55. > :05:57.Lincolnshire, a councillor who lived outside the county resigned
:05:58. > :06:01.following criticism about her attendance record. In Liverpool,
:06:02. > :06:06.Sharon Green was criticised for only turning up to a third of council
:06:07. > :06:10.meetings. The Labour leader of Bradford Council, although a
:06:11. > :06:16.political rival of John's, agrees that the number of councillors
:06:17. > :06:20.should not be cut. At a time of austerity, ?400,000 could do a lot
:06:21. > :06:25.of good for the people of Bradford. I do not think we should fall into
:06:26. > :06:32.that. Of cutting down on democracy. But the is, I mean, one of your
:06:33. > :06:38.councillors live in Spain! -- the truth is. He is not one of my
:06:39. > :06:42.councillors, he is one of Bradford's councillors, but I
:06:43. > :06:44.believe that he still works hard to represent the constituents who
:06:45. > :06:52.elected him at the time when he lived in the UK full-time. Come on,
:06:53. > :06:57.it is a bit ridiculous! You would have to take it up with him. He
:06:58. > :07:00.lives in Spain and represents Bradford!
:07:01. > :07:06.Whatever the machinations of City Hall, for John, being a councillor
:07:07. > :07:10.begins and ends with small acts for his community, including fixing
:07:11. > :07:17.gravestones. This is not strictly council business, is it? No, but it
:07:18. > :07:22.is community business. I think, particularly in the economic times
:07:23. > :07:25.we are in, the council does too much for too many, and now of course it
:07:26. > :07:30.cannot afford to do a lot of it. And so we have got to go back to the old
:07:31. > :07:35.ways and learn how to help ourselves.
:07:36. > :07:40.Good effort! John is a godsend. He is a hard worker, isn't it? But some
:07:41. > :07:45.councillors are not pulling their weight, but they were not there to
:07:46. > :07:48.defend themselves. Sharon Green, who we mentioned, said she was not able
:07:49. > :07:51.to attend meetings in July and September because of work and
:07:52. > :07:59.holiday commitments. She says, I am a hard-working counsellor and I
:08:00. > :08:03.represent my constituents. The Spanish counsellor, he says that he
:08:04. > :08:09.has gone off and bought a retirement home in Spain, but he says, I am
:08:10. > :08:13.committed, I will be there for every council meeting. So councils are
:08:14. > :08:16.struggling to make these cuts, so presumably they are in a right
:08:17. > :08:21.predicament after the recent floods. Indeed, a lot of damage
:08:22. > :08:24.costing a lot of money to fix. A recent survey of highway managers
:08:25. > :08:31.estimated the total cost of infrastructure damage at ?400
:08:32. > :08:35.million. Cornwall alone, ?2 million to fix the roads there. Councils do
:08:36. > :08:40.have a right to get emergency assistance, and the Association, the
:08:41. > :08:43.Local Government Association, which represents councils in England and
:08:44. > :08:49.Wales, the command said you could have 6.7 million. -- the
:08:50. > :08:56.Government. They definitely say they need more money. Who could forget
:08:57. > :08:59.this scene here when flood victim Erica Oliveira challenged David
:09:00. > :09:03.Cameron when he visited Yalding in Kent just after Christmas? Erica had
:09:04. > :09:09.been without power for days and managed to get a bit of an offer
:09:10. > :09:13.from the Prime Minister. You have got a lot of furniture you need to
:09:14. > :09:17.throw out, carpets and things like that. I will come and have a look,
:09:18. > :09:23.I'm going to see the post offers first, but it would be nice to see
:09:24. > :09:26.you. Well, we spoke to her this afternoon. David Cameron popped
:09:27. > :09:33.around to the post office, but after that, he came around to her house,
:09:34. > :09:38.and he did have a chat, and later the council did call her. She was
:09:39. > :09:46.without power for five days over Christmas, she had a horrible time.
:09:47. > :09:50.She had to eat her Christmas dinner with her family on the first floor.
:09:51. > :09:53.It is because of customers like Erica that the heads of the big Alec
:09:54. > :10:00.is the disturbing copies have to appear before MPs today. But -- the
:10:01. > :10:04.big electricity distribution companies had to appear before MPs
:10:05. > :10:08.today. The chairman said there seemed to be no expression of
:10:09. > :10:12.concern by the firms, utter complacency. In their defence, they
:10:13. > :10:16.said, listen, the weather was much worse than we expected, and the
:10:17. > :10:20.plans did not work out as we hoped. They said they had to do repairs
:10:21. > :10:24.from boats, trees they had to cut through. It did not help that the
:10:25. > :10:28.industry body that represents them did not know how many people had
:10:29. > :10:34.been without power for 24 hours, and by the end of the session Tim Yeo
:10:35. > :10:41.said, he accused the companies of exploiting their monopoly position.
:10:42. > :10:43.It was a tough time for them. Hopefully they will get some
:10:44. > :10:48.compensation soon. If these pictures are anything to go by, David Beckham
:10:49. > :10:56.could be heading to pack for a job in sales courtesy of Del Boy and
:10:57. > :10:59.Rodney. -- Peckham. He is actually appearing in a one-off Only Fools
:11:00. > :11:01.And Horses sketch for Sport Relief, and we were there for the launch
:11:02. > :11:15.earlier today. It is Tuesday morning, and we are at
:11:16. > :11:19.the very picturesque Dumfries house, trapped up to the sporting lines,
:11:20. > :11:24.warming up because today we are going to be doing the Sport Relief
:11:25. > :11:28.challenge. You can make every mile count by running, cycling or
:11:29. > :11:33.swimming for Sport Relief across one weekend, the 21st two the 23rd of
:11:34. > :11:39.March. Does it feel like it is going to rain? Let's get running, dodge
:11:40. > :11:43.the raindrops. Over 100 runners are taking part in the challenge today,
:11:44. > :11:46.including local primary schoolchildren and people from Sport
:11:47. > :11:51.Relief funded projects. As well as doing our bit for Sport Relief,
:11:52. > :11:54.there is a special reason why we are here this morning. His Royal
:11:55. > :11:57.Highness the Prince of Wales is going to be starting the race, so we
:11:58. > :12:04.had better get to the starting line. Let's not keep him waiting.
:12:05. > :12:11.Good morning, your Royal Highness! How are you? We did a little warm up
:12:12. > :12:17.around the front drive, I hope you don't mind. There is a lot of
:12:18. > :12:26.excited evil out there, what does it mean to you to have the run here?
:12:27. > :12:30.The great thing about Sport Relief is that involves so many people in
:12:31. > :12:37.local communities, brings people together, and you all have fun,
:12:38. > :12:40.doing a bit of useful exercise. And help so much for lots of
:12:41. > :12:45.disadvantaged people in different parts of the country, so it is a
:12:46. > :12:50.wonderful way, it seems to me, of raising money, doing it in a jolly
:12:51. > :12:58.way. And essentially we are running around your garden, so is Touraine
:12:59. > :13:04.difficult? Too many hills! It is relatively flat. When you think,
:13:05. > :13:13.?195 million has been raised through Sport Relief... It is the Brits to
:13:14. > :13:17.do it. We think they are waiting outside on the steps, we had better
:13:18. > :13:40.get out of there. Ready, steady, go!
:13:41. > :13:48.What a brilliant morning! It was quite a privilege, to be part of the
:13:49. > :13:52.first mile. Running around Prince Charles' garden, quite nice. If you
:13:53. > :13:57.want to cycle, run or swim for Sport Relief, the details are on the
:13:58. > :14:03.website, and you have got long enough to train. Let's talk about
:14:04. > :14:06.Girls, goodness me, we saw it on the in-flight magazine on the way back,
:14:07. > :14:13.we couldn't believe it. And it is not on this channel either! That is
:14:14. > :14:16.a good point, what is the series about for those who have not seen
:14:17. > :14:22.it? The sex lives and emotional lives of four 25-year-old girls in
:14:23. > :14:28.New York. It is what happens to them. Anybody who has left college,
:14:29. > :14:35.school, university, that is what has happened to them. Where does your
:14:36. > :14:38.character fit into this, Richard? I play a very old man, older than
:14:39. > :14:44.their fathers, who meets one of them in a rehab facility and falls madly
:14:45. > :14:53.in love with her. This is your character trying to pass on his
:14:54. > :14:59.wisdom to that girl. When you are older your mind learns to let go of
:15:00. > :15:03.things that do not suit you. Being young is terrifying as well. You
:15:04. > :15:09.have all of the knowledge, but none of the language to persuade yourself
:15:10. > :15:14.-- persuade yourself from the horrible truth of the world. If only
:15:15. > :15:18.I could make the world a less gargantuan place for my daughter.
:15:19. > :15:42.That is just one way that I protect her. Do you just not like watching
:15:43. > :15:45.yourself? It is excruciating. Girls has been created, written and
:15:46. > :15:51.produced by Lena Dunham, apparently the next big thing. Would you agree
:15:52. > :15:55.with that? She is extraordinary. She is 27 and has been writing since she
:15:56. > :16:00.was nine. She has written and directed two films with her family
:16:01. > :16:05.and partner, and now has written this thing that has won Golden
:16:06. > :16:10.globes. She has this incredible talent, but you would never know
:16:11. > :16:15.that she is the person in authority. Everyone listens to what
:16:16. > :16:19.you says and she never raises voice. You told one of our researchers that
:16:20. > :16:25.it is an all girl production and the women are in charge. Yes. I loved
:16:26. > :16:34.it, it was fantastic! It has been great for your daughter. She was a
:16:35. > :16:42.big fan of the Spice Girls and now she is a driving force? Yes, when I
:16:43. > :16:50.was in Spice World as the manager, she was so thrilled. I have earned
:16:51. > :16:57.wryly points twice in my career with her. Everything else has been in
:16:58. > :17:04.between. Not only are you in Girls, you're in this fantastic series
:17:05. > :17:13.called Hotel Secrets, or you'd jet around the world, doing what? Job on
:17:14. > :17:19.beds, stay in ?40,000 per night suites, and give the stories to the
:17:20. > :17:29.viewers, and give the stories of who run them. What have you discovered?
:17:30. > :17:40.They can charge $5,000 for a hamburger in mass figures. It has
:17:41. > :17:48.foie gras and truffle sauce. Was their chips with it? It is a normal
:17:49. > :17:56.burger and you get a certificate. They say the burger costs 500 and
:17:57. > :18:06.the glass of fine costs 4500, so that is what you get. Girls
:18:07. > :18:11.continues on Sky Atlantic. Many of the physical signs of our
:18:12. > :18:17.long coal-mining history have long been demolished. Andy Kershaw was in
:18:18. > :18:22.Yorkshire to witness the polling of the plug of another part of the
:18:23. > :18:26.mine's daily life. Mining was the engine of British
:18:27. > :18:31.industry for centuries, and a dangerous and dirty job. The miners
:18:32. > :18:35.would be covered in coal dust and went home quoted in an oily
:18:36. > :18:41.residue. In 1926, life changed forever. Bass and showers that to
:18:42. > :18:46.date we would take for granted would now be provided by the mine. Life
:18:47. > :18:51.improved immeasurably for the miners with the creation of pithead baths
:18:52. > :18:56.like this one. Finally, they could get clean of the coal dust and grime
:18:57. > :19:01.before returning home. In 1938, these pithead baths near Sheffield
:19:02. > :19:06.were built. It was a transformation for the community here, which had
:19:07. > :19:15.grown up around the mining industry. One of the curators at the National
:19:16. > :19:20.Coal Mining Museum is and Bradley. You would come off your shift filthy
:19:21. > :19:26.dirty and you would be dragging it back home. Miners would enter the
:19:27. > :19:32.bass at the beginning of each shift and leave their clothes at the clean
:19:33. > :19:37.end, then change into their pet gear. After work, they would do it
:19:38. > :19:42.in reverse, having a shower on the way out. It was bustling, it was
:19:43. > :19:49.noisy and there was chatter. Men could get showered and go off out.
:19:50. > :19:55.But in 1994, the mine closed and a year later, the wheelhouse was torn
:19:56. > :20:00.down. The derelict bats are one of the last remnants of the area's
:20:01. > :20:07.heritage. This one-time focus of the mining community was about to
:20:08. > :20:12.disappear. The bass are due to be demolished to extend this community
:20:13. > :20:17.parkland. It is a poignant moment for those who have memories of the
:20:18. > :20:24.place. Jorge Messi worked in the mine. I did 28 years. I finished in
:20:25. > :20:33.November. It was rough. You would get grimy and you needed a shower.
:20:34. > :20:39.Today, George is getting one last look at the locker room before the
:20:40. > :20:45.demolition team moves in. I am looking for nine to seven, which are
:20:46. > :20:51.used for 28 years. -- 927. Here it is. I locked that in November, 1990.
:20:52. > :20:56.That was the last time I was in here. The demolition crew is getting
:20:57. > :21:13.ready to come in. It is the last call for the pithead baths. How do
:21:14. > :21:27.you feel watching this? It is sad in some respects, but the colliery
:21:28. > :21:33.closed in 1994 and we have got to this now. What was the effect on the
:21:34. > :21:43.community? People were reeling before they finally got established
:21:44. > :21:49.into other things. George's bank of lockers is being flung on the
:21:50. > :21:53.scrapheap. No matter how hostile the conditions at the coal face, the
:21:54. > :21:56.pithead baths offered the miners comfort and respite from the
:21:57. > :22:00.dangerous world of underground and created a social hub for the
:22:01. > :22:05.community and a connection to the generations before. We have a
:22:06. > :22:15.surprise for you. What did you say your number was? 927. There you go,
:22:16. > :22:23.brother. Fantastic. Much obliged. Thank you. Is that all right? Yes,
:22:24. > :22:32.lovely. I have got to carry this back the bus!
:22:33. > :22:39.I rang George to ask in what he had done with the locker door. He said
:22:40. > :22:41.it is in pride of place in the outhouse with his fishing
:22:42. > :22:48.paraphernalia. Richard, at the beginning of the show we said that
:22:49. > :22:51.you have a very good nose for sniffing all things sniffable. We
:22:52. > :22:58.are going to put your nose to the test. We will start with the smell
:22:59. > :23:09.in this box. Have a little sniff. You were in Spice Girls' movie, so
:23:10. > :23:23.we need you to identify that spice. Is it came in seats? Almost. It is
:23:24. > :23:33.cardamom. Now, this is one of your favourites. Oh, my God! There is
:23:34. > :23:44.ginger and sugar... It is sticky toffee pudding. This one has the
:23:45. > :24:00.royal seal of approval. It smells like a toilet! It is our smelly
:24:01. > :24:04.socks from the Sport Relief Mile! I think they must have added cheese.
:24:05. > :24:11.Nobody smells like that. Thank you for the humiliation! Carrie Grant is
:24:12. > :24:19.like a musical Miss Marple, discovering the mystery and meanings
:24:20. > :24:26.between iconic tunes. Tonight it is the turn of a Glastonbury anthem.
:24:27. > :24:30.Officially recognised as a City of Culture, Glasgow is renowned for
:24:31. > :24:34.producing great art of all kinds. Thanks to a classic song by a famous
:24:35. > :24:42.Glasgow band, it now has a bit of a reputation for something else.
:24:43. > :24:49.MUSIC: "Why Does It Always Rain On Me?" By Travis.
:24:50. > :24:58.This song propelled art school hopefuls Travis to fame in 1999.
:24:59. > :25:03.With the city's weather at its wet worst, I am escaping into the
:25:04. > :25:06.Glasgow school a tube meet one of its most celebrated ex-students,
:25:07. > :25:18.Fran Healy, who studied here in the mid-90s. Were your hopes and dreams
:25:19. > :25:22.to be an artist? The day I matriculated into the school was the
:25:23. > :25:27.day I auditioned for the band. The two things when parallel to each
:25:28. > :25:34.other. At what point did the scales tip from art to music? I think we
:25:35. > :25:42.had rehearsed three times and it always clashed with life drawing
:25:43. > :25:47.classes. I realised that I did not know how to finish a painting but I
:25:48. > :25:52.could finish a song. Frank decided to concentrate on songwriting for
:25:53. > :25:56.the band and signed on. -- Fran. It was tough. All my mates were at art
:25:57. > :26:01.school having a great time, and I was on the dole, sitting in my room,
:26:02. > :26:07.trying to write songs. As soon as you get it you think, oh, this is
:26:08. > :26:13.how you do it! Despite four years of hard graft, a record deal and first
:26:14. > :26:16.album, success still eluded them. But the rain cloud was to have a
:26:17. > :26:23.silver mining went frantic aid desperately needed holiday. Where
:26:24. > :26:39.did this on common? I was asking for sunshine, so I went to Israel. I
:26:40. > :26:44.remember opening the curtains in my hotel and it was raining. I was
:26:45. > :26:49.thinking, I have come all this way, and it was chucking it down. I sat
:26:50. > :26:56.on my bed and I had my guitar, and I was playing and then it came on.
:26:57. > :27:05.# Why does it always rain on me? # Is it because I lied when I was
:27:06. > :27:10.17? Is it because I lied when I was 17? What is that about? I have said
:27:11. > :27:14.to myself I am never going to set what that is. That line, for a lot
:27:15. > :27:21.of people, is the hook of the whole song, the pivot of the seesaw. I am
:27:22. > :27:28.not going to tell you what it was. I did lie when I was 17, but I think
:27:29. > :27:33.everyone does! So it is destined to be raining everywhere you go because
:27:34. > :27:39.of something you did when you were 17. I can't talk about it. Fran's
:27:40. > :27:47.black cloud followed him to Glastonbury in 1999, but it was the
:27:48. > :27:52.making of Travis. We went on stage, it was a beautiful sunny day and we
:27:53. > :28:00.played Why Does It Always Rain On Me?, and began to pour with rain. I
:28:01. > :28:08.remember everyone looking at us and thinking, oh, this is rubbish, this
:28:09. > :28:13.has blown it. And then I got home that evening and they were talking
:28:14. > :28:18.about it like it was something really good. Ironically, this
:28:19. > :28:28.wash-out performance gave the band their first top ten hit and
:28:29. > :28:33.international renown. He would not tell what he lied about
:28:34. > :28:38.when he was 17. It must be quite big. I think he said he passed his
:28:39. > :28:43.driving test first time. What did use it when you were 17, Richard? I
:28:44. > :28:58.said I was good to be an astronaut. I had recently landed on the moon.
:28:59. > :29:03.Was it to attract a girl? Probably. Girls continues on Sky Atlantic on
:29:04. > :29:13.Monday night at ten o'clock. Tomorrow we are joined by Melvyn
:29:14. > :29:14.Bragg and the coup Marquez Mac. -- and the Kumars. Good night.