:00:22. > :00:26.Welcome to the One Show with Alex Jones and Matt Baker. Tonight's
:00:26. > :00:31.guests have lived in the two most sought after dresses on British
:00:31. > :00:38.telly. He spent a lot of time with the Kumars at Number 42 and she
:00:38. > :00:42.lived above the flat above the corner shop in Coronation Street.
:00:42. > :00:49.It's Sanjeev Bhaskar and Ayesha Dharker.
:00:49. > :00:55.Welcome. On the whole subject of broad casts,
:00:56. > :00:59.are we going to see any more on The Kumars? Hopefully. It would be
:00:59. > :01:02.interesting for me to see where the family got to after six years with
:01:02. > :01:05.the recession and change of Government and all that kind of
:01:05. > :01:10.stuff so it's something I'm working on. We'd all love to do it again,
:01:10. > :01:16.we had a great time doing it. of people out there will be pleased
:01:16. > :01:22.to hear that. Ayesha, would you go back to Coronation Street because
:01:22. > :01:27.you did live above the most famous corner shop? Yes, I think I would
:01:27. > :01:32.go back. I think yeah. I'm very upset that def's relationship is
:01:32. > :01:37.going so well. -- Dev. His marriage is wonderful, so there's no window
:01:37. > :01:41.for ex-girlfriends to wander in. Better off without him, Ayesha.
:01:41. > :01:46.know, you never know. A good man is hard to find.
:01:46. > :01:49.Sanjeev and Ayesha are about to star in the second series of The
:01:49. > :01:53.Indian Doctor, the story of a doctor and his wife who come from
:01:53. > :01:57.India to work in the NHS in the '60s and find themselves posted to
:01:57. > :02:05.rural Wales. Yes, now in real life, many doctors made the same journey.
:02:05. > :02:09.Alex Riley meets two such men to recall the early days on the job.
:02:09. > :02:13.On July 5th, the new National Health Service starts...
:02:13. > :02:18.creation of the NHS in 1948 was a landmark moment in post-war Britain
:02:18. > :02:22.with the aim of making quality health care available to all.
:02:22. > :02:26.However, the grand ambition of universal care required more
:02:26. > :02:32.qualified doctors than Britain could provide. The NHS had a remedy
:02:33. > :02:38.for the problem, recruit the best and brightest doctors from the
:02:38. > :02:43.Indian subcontinent. Hello, Mrs Adams... This doctor arrived in
:02:43. > :02:46.Britain in 1956 from Bangalore. came to the UK because I wanted to
:02:46. > :02:50.get a post-graduate qualification and some experience in the
:02:50. > :02:53.hospitals here, earn some money and then go back home after three or
:02:53. > :02:58.four years. Many of the doctors awe rivaling from tindian subcontinent
:02:58. > :03:05.found themselves not in Britain's bustling cities but in places like
:03:05. > :03:09.this, the Welsh Valleys. -- the Indian subcontinent. Dr Joshi
:03:09. > :03:13.arrived in 1971 from Gujarat. me, the UK meant London or
:03:13. > :03:18.Manchester or Birmingham. That's all I knew about the UK, I didn't
:03:18. > :03:22.know that something like Pontypool existed. On arrival, they often
:03:22. > :03:27.found it was very difficult and pretty impossible to get posts in
:03:27. > :03:32.prestigious areas and so would end up where the job vacancies were
:03:32. > :03:36.which were often in deprived rural areas. It's a culture shock. Things
:03:36. > :03:41.were totally different, people lived and talked differently.
:03:41. > :03:48.words you particularly struggled with? There is a place round here,
:03:48. > :03:52.a Welsh place, difficult for me to pronounce or even spell! It wasn't
:03:52. > :03:58.unbearably cold but what struck me first was how grey it was, there
:03:58. > :04:01.was no sun, as back in India there was plenty of light and houses of
:04:01. > :04:06.all colours. I grew up as a vegetarian. The only vegetarian
:04:06. > :04:09.food I got in the hospital was lettuce, tomatoes and cheese.
:04:10. > :04:13.The differences went much deeper than the food and the weather. This
:04:13. > :04:19.heavily industrialised region had some of the poorest health in the
:04:19. > :04:26.country and the doctors were faced are a range of diseases they'd
:04:26. > :04:32.rarely enkointered before. When I worked in India, it was diseases
:04:32. > :04:37.from malnutrition -- encount countered. You came across TB, tie
:04:37. > :04:42.food, malaria. It was all chest diseases, heart disease, high blood
:04:42. > :04:45.pressure and cancers which were very rare back in India. You had to
:04:45. > :04:50.learn those things all over again and start treating them as I went
:04:50. > :04:55.along. Some of the locals still remember their first encounter with
:04:55. > :04:58.an Indian Doctor. Well, I suppose it was excited in one way because
:04:58. > :05:03.it was somebody different and everybody was a bit nosey wanting
:05:04. > :05:11.to meet him, you know. People started coming to see you, telling
:05:11. > :05:16.you of their dark secrets, then you knew that they were treating you as
:05:16. > :05:21.someone whom they trusted and who they felt would give them the right
:05:21. > :05:25.advice. That's when I felt that I had arrived. These doctors from
:05:25. > :05:29.India really contributed in a very significant way to the development
:05:29. > :05:32.of the NHS. I think it's quite fair to say that the NHS wouldn't be
:05:32. > :05:37.what it is today without their contribution.
:05:37. > :05:41.Do you consider yourself as Indian or Welsh? I go to rugby matches,
:05:41. > :05:47.associate with my friends here, I'm completely Welsh.
:05:47. > :05:52.I certainly don't consider myself Indian, although you never lose the
:05:52. > :05:55.feeling, when in India, I'm an Indian, but when I'm here, I'm
:05:55. > :06:00.Welsh. Isn't that great! A lovely film, it
:06:00. > :06:06.really is. How much of that story were you both aware of before you
:06:06. > :06:10.started the first series? Certainly in terms of when the Indian Doctors
:06:10. > :06:15.came over, the fact that a lot went to Wales or Scotland, the NHS was
:06:15. > :06:18.just starting at that time so it was really to bolster all of that.
:06:18. > :06:26.I was kind of aware of that. In terms of the difficulties they had
:06:26. > :06:31.in terms of settling in, I had a great uncle who us - was a doctor
:06:31. > :06:35.in and around London but he arrived in the 40s, so I used the see him
:06:35. > :06:38.and hear his experiences. A lot of it was about wanting to integrate
:06:38. > :06:44.enough to be able to serve the community. That's what they all
:06:44. > :06:50.wanted to do. It's been compared to Call the Midwife, hugely successful.
:06:50. > :06:55.Have you heard that? I haven't, no. It's obviously the period drama.
:06:55. > :07:00.who in Call the Midwife do they think is like me then. Miranda-ish,
:07:00. > :07:03.I don't know! Happy with that! decade later it is. In the first
:07:03. > :07:11.series, the family settled in Wales and then they dealt with lung
:07:11. > :07:18.disease because of the miners. What happens in series two, what can we
:07:18. > :07:21.expect? Are we allowed to say? going to be on! The second time
:07:21. > :07:25.around, smallpox is the big killer. There was a major outbreak in the
:07:25. > :07:28.south of Wales. I couldn't believe that. People remembered it, the
:07:29. > :07:33.people that we were working with remembered it. It was serious and
:07:33. > :07:38.it took them some time to work out how the disease had come to Wales
:07:38. > :07:43.and how it spread. Across this series, that's the big thing, the
:07:43. > :07:48.who brought it. Also in the first episode, your mother in the series
:07:48. > :07:58.comes over from India. She's not very impressed, is she? No. Let's
:07:58. > :07:59.
:07:59. > :08:07.have a look. Mummy. It's been so long! I'm so excited. Hello there.
:08:07. > :08:15.Welcome to Wales. Oi, that one as well. Don't lose any, I've counted
:08:15. > :08:25.them. You must be exhausted. Let's get home. It's been so tiring. Such
:08:25. > :08:29.a long journey... Sorry about that. APPLAUSE
:08:29. > :08:33.Interestingly, your parents in real life went in the opposite direction,
:08:33. > :08:38.from Glasgow to India? That's right, the only people to go the wrong way.
:08:38. > :08:41.My mum grew up in Glasgow and my dad was teachingening nearing in
:08:41. > :08:48.Glasgow university so he had grown up in Bombay but was teaching and
:08:48. > :08:53.fell in love with my mum but one was Hindu, one was Muslim and they
:08:54. > :09:00.had to elop to Bombay to get married. A great story? Yes -- elop.
:09:00. > :09:10.My mum years later married a Welsh man, so I have a huge family in
:09:10. > :09:14.Wales in Denby and three very tall Welsh brothers. That really
:09:14. > :09:18.confuses people. Did they come down and film it to see how it was done?
:09:18. > :09:22.No, one of my brothers visited me and they wouldn't let him in
:09:22. > :09:26.because they didn't believe he was my brother and that was in Wales.
:09:26. > :09:31.Have you been learning any well ,, you San Sir John Stevens have. You
:09:31. > :09:41.have asked the crew to teach you two words every day? I have, I
:09:41. > :09:43.
:09:43. > :09:52.thought it was the right thing to do. How is it coming along??
:09:52. > :09:57.( SHE SPEAKS WELSH) I just asked where you film in
:09:57. > :10:02.Wales. Yes! We know chips and beer and flowers.
:10:02. > :10:05.If people want to see this, it's in the day time isn't it? Yes. People
:10:05. > :10:10.were pushing for it to go prime time but it's staying with the day
:10:10. > :10:15.time slot. Are you happy with that? Yes, it's nice to be on and
:10:15. > :10:19.actually all credit to BBC day time for changing the way that day time
:10:19. > :10:22.schedules are now. It's a real push for drama? Because there wasn't
:10:23. > :10:27.drama there before. Especially now with iPlayer and people being able
:10:27. > :10:31.to record stuff, you can find it and record it. Good stuff. Series
:10:31. > :10:33.two of The Indian Doctor begins next Monday afternoon at 2.15 on
:10:33. > :10:37.BBC One and carries on throughout the week.
:10:37. > :10:42.In a few weeks, the publicly owned Forensic Science Service will close
:10:42. > :10:47.its doors forever. In its place will be private companies hired to
:10:47. > :10:52.analyse vital evidence from crime scenes. Simon Boazman goes to the
:10:52. > :10:56.crime lab to investigate the changes.
:10:56. > :11:04.We have a burglary to investigate. Go in there, collect as much
:11:04. > :11:08.evidence as you can possibly find. Let's do it. This is not a real
:11:08. > :11:12.crime scene. These aren't real crime scene investigators. At least
:11:12. > :11:17.not yet. The aftermath of this house break-in is designed to look
:11:17. > :11:21.and feel as realistic as possible. It's actually a training facility
:11:21. > :11:24.where forensic science students at Bournemouth university perfect
:11:24. > :11:28.their investigative skills. Gathering evidence like this can be
:11:28. > :11:31.difficult and painstaking work, but finding that single hair, that
:11:32. > :11:40.piece of fibre or broken glass could mean the difference between
:11:40. > :11:47.getting a conviction or not. What you got, guys? A couple of
:11:47. > :11:50.bits of drugs... Forensic demonstrator Alex Otto spent 11
:11:50. > :11:55.years working as a forensic investigator for the police.
:11:55. > :11:58.police focus on the the photography and fingerprint side of things,
:11:58. > :12:05.whereas analysis, actual drug analysis, fibre analysis, body
:12:05. > :12:08.fluid analysis all has to be done by a company like Forensic Science
:12:08. > :12:11.Service. The Forensic Science Service is a Government-backed
:12:11. > :12:14.company, providing scientific support to the English and Welsh
:12:14. > :12:18.police. Scotland and Northern Ireland have their own publicly
:12:18. > :12:24.funded forensic service providers. The organisation can trace its
:12:24. > :12:30.origins as far back as the '30s and has played a key role in cracking
:12:30. > :12:35.some notorious cases including the Soham murders and the conviction of
:12:35. > :12:38.the Suffolk Strangler Stephen Wright. From next month, this is
:12:38. > :12:42.going to shut, meaning the police and the private labs will have to
:12:42. > :12:46.pick up the investigative slack. With the service losing between one
:12:46. > :12:49.and two million a month, and at risk of falling into administration,
:12:49. > :12:55.the Government announced its closure and the sale or transfer of
:12:55. > :12:59.many of its operations. Toxicologist Professor David
:12:59. > :13:03.Ossleton worked for the service for over 30 years, identifying pills
:13:03. > :13:07.and powders like our suspected drugs find was part of his work. A
:13:07. > :13:11.lot of stuff we have done here, if this was a real crime scene would
:13:11. > :13:15.be done by the Forensic Science Service, so what are your concerns
:13:15. > :13:20.about it shutting down? There will be a huge loss of expertise.
:13:20. > :13:23.Secondly, I think the quality in the short-term is going to suffer.
:13:23. > :13:26.The regulator of forensic science is going to put in place a number
:13:26. > :13:31.of quality guidelines and accreditation, but that isn't ready
:13:31. > :13:35.yet to be put into place. Thirdly, I think we are going to lose a lot
:13:35. > :13:41.of research. Criminals are clever people. They put a lot of money
:13:41. > :13:46.into trying to beat the science and the science has got to keep up.
:13:46. > :13:49.New measures are due to come into force in the next few months.
:13:49. > :13:55.Existing arrangements would flag up any problems it's believed. There
:13:55. > :13:59.are fear fors that the accuracy and impartiality could be compromised.
:13:59. > :14:03.In the short-term, there's a possibility there will be
:14:03. > :14:06.miscarriages of justice, that means Newsnight people may be found
:14:06. > :14:10.guilty and guilty people may not be caught.
:14:10. > :14:15.There are also concerns in legal circles. If you are talking about
:14:15. > :14:19.hiving off part of the service to the police, that causes me probably
:14:19. > :14:23.the most concern because very certainly questions about
:14:23. > :14:27.impartiality could arise. Association of Chief Police
:14:27. > :14:31.Officers refute that claim. They argue that taking extra forensic
:14:31. > :14:35.work in-house will help them become more efficient and effective in how
:14:35. > :14:38.they investigate crime. People will say that hired company
:14:38. > :14:43.also do the bare minimum because it's in their financial interest to
:14:43. > :14:49.do so? What we are looking for at the end of the day is a service
:14:49. > :14:52.that provides robust, accurate and reliable evidence and there is no
:14:52. > :14:56.or nothing to suppose that private companies won't be able to do that.
:14:57. > :15:01.We have to bear in mind that the Forensic Science Service itself has
:15:01. > :15:05.been involved in a number of fairly high profile miscarriages of
:15:05. > :15:09.justice cases. The Government says the closure of the Forensic Science
:15:09. > :15:14.Service won't have any impact on the continued provision of high
:15:14. > :15:16.quality effective forensic services to the criminal justice system.
:15:16. > :15:24.Some former Forensic Science Service staff have already been
:15:24. > :15:28.taken on by police and privats labs but by no means all of them.
:15:28. > :15:31.Forensic Science Service was the pioneer and model for many forensic
:15:31. > :15:36.organisations around the world. We were the envy of the world, we were
:15:36. > :15:41.the leading organisations in the world. I think it's a very sad day
:15:41. > :15:45.for forensic science in Jon. -- in general.
:15:46. > :15:49.Alex Otto is here. Welcome, nice to see you. Are your students worried
:15:49. > :15:53.about finding work with the privately-run companies or do they
:15:53. > :15:58.seem to be doing OK? They seem to be doing OK at the moment. We have
:15:58. > :16:03.got a few undergraduates and Masters students that have already
:16:03. > :16:06.found positions within the forensic laboratories and in fact I wrote a
:16:06. > :16:12.reference for one yesterday who's just about to take up a job. Things
:16:12. > :16:18.are looking bright, good. I'm sure lots of viewers' only experience is
:16:18. > :16:21.with things like Waking the Dead and CSI. Do you watch these
:16:21. > :16:26.programmes with your head in your hands and think, I can't believe
:16:26. > :16:29.how much they are getting wrong? do unfortunately. I've been told on
:16:29. > :16:34.numerous occasions by my fiance to be quiet and shut up. We don't want
:16:35. > :16:39.you to do that now. We are going to see a CSI clip now. Talk us through
:16:39. > :16:43.everything that's wrong here. Here we go. Firstly, there's no lights
:16:43. > :16:51.on. She's wandering around with a torch in her hand, walking all over
:16:51. > :16:55.evidence. We don't know what's on the floor. But to be fair, there is
:16:56. > :17:05.jeopardy. She even remembered to put lipstick on before going there.
:17:05. > :17:11.She looked great though. Amazing. No white suit? No gloves, no masks.
:17:11. > :17:16.She was investigating a crime scene, not just arriving home. It's a bit
:17:17. > :17:20.extreme to put all that stuff on. She's had a power cut!
:17:20. > :17:23.The next big thing in forensics is this contraption there which will
:17:23. > :17:29.help limit the amount of contamination in a crime scene
:17:29. > :17:36.won't it? That's right. This is basically 3D laser scanner.
:17:36. > :17:41.Essentially it will scan a crime scene in 3D freezing it so you can
:17:41. > :17:47.scan in into a computer, you can use measurements to measure
:17:47. > :17:51.trajectory, look at blood splatter, that kind of thing. It's been used
:17:51. > :17:57.in America for many years. They've had no appeals in court with it,
:17:57. > :18:01.it's been very, very successful indeed and... This is our studio.
:18:02. > :18:06.It's amazing that you are here today with the camera because we
:18:06. > :18:09.had an incident earlier on. There ease Caleb, part of the production
:18:09. > :18:14.team. It's about measurements and you can get so much information,
:18:14. > :18:17.it's a different type of science? It is. If you can visualise a 2D
:18:17. > :18:21.photograph, you would have to take a lot of photographs after each
:18:21. > :18:25.other and then present them to a jury, for instance, whereas with
:18:25. > :18:28.this, you are actually presenting the jury with a whole crime scene
:18:28. > :18:33.with measurements, you don't have to put them in a bus or bus them
:18:33. > :18:39.out to show them where the crime scene was, it's there in front of
:18:39. > :18:43.them. Thank you!
:18:43. > :18:48.The seven dwarves may have whistled while they worked but they've got
:18:48. > :18:58.nothing on the textile workers of Dundee. Their singing kept them
:18:58. > :18:59.
:18:59. > :19:06.moving Carrie Grant is glad to hear that the only sound left is song!
:19:06. > :19:13.It's a pure sound and a lovely tune, but this song is a lament recalling
:19:13. > :19:17.dark days of child labour in noisy, dirty mills.
:19:17. > :19:21.The mills were in Dundee and they made a material used in sacking,
:19:21. > :19:25.sandbags and the wagons of the wild west.
:19:25. > :19:29.Demand for cheaper textiles led to a boom in the manufacturer of a new
:19:29. > :19:34.fabric that led to thousands of workers coming into the town and
:19:34. > :19:38.the fabric was called Jute. The raw materials were shipped in
:19:38. > :19:42.from the Indian subcontinent, but the fibres were spun and woven into
:19:42. > :19:46.fabric in Dundee, making the Scottish town the world Jute
:19:46. > :19:50.capital right up until the early 20th century.
:19:50. > :19:55.62 mills employed more than 50,000 people, many of them women and some
:19:55. > :19:58.of them children. The work was tough, dangerous, but
:19:58. > :20:03.they found the perfect way to brighten up their day. They sang. I
:20:03. > :20:06.want to find out more about the music they made.
:20:06. > :20:10.Lily Thompson and Hannah Frankenberg have between them 50
:20:10. > :20:13.years experience of working in the Jute mills of Dundee. They remember
:20:13. > :20:19.the awful conditions and the power of song.
:20:19. > :20:24.Ladies, what was it like working in the mills? Smelly, noisy, dirty,
:20:24. > :20:30.your hair was covered in dust, your clothes were covered in dust. It
:20:30. > :20:34.was absolutely horrendous. wasn't just filthy, it was also
:20:34. > :20:39.deafening with each factory having hundreds of machines. This is just
:20:39. > :20:49.one. That's know someday! How did that
:20:49. > :20:53.affect your east? -- ears? Well, Dundee must be the capital city for
:20:53. > :20:57.hearing aids. The women sang to pass the time despite the noise.
:20:57. > :21:00.They sang in unison. If you had all that noise, how did you manage to
:21:00. > :21:05.sing? You can read the lips and once you
:21:05. > :21:09.picked up part of that song, you knew what song they were singing.
:21:09. > :21:15.The songs' lyrics accurately describe life in the mills. One of
:21:15. > :21:21.the most poignant is called Ox Dear Me, about the shifters. They were
:21:21. > :21:27.the people who ran about carrying things from place to place -- Oh
:21:27. > :21:32.Dear Me. In the really bad old day, quite often it was very young
:21:32. > :21:41.children, ten or 11 years old. It was tough work and very, very
:21:41. > :21:45.poorly paid work. Oh, dear me, the mills are getting
:21:45. > :21:49.fed, the wee shifters can't get near us...
:21:49. > :21:56.The Jute mills of Dundee are now all closed, falling victim to the
:21:56. > :22:06.cheap labour of the Far East. I joined the women singing choir,
:22:06. > :22:08.
:22:08. > :22:14.many of whom have family links with the now dead Jute industry.
:22:14. > :22:18.The day shifters can't get no rest,... Songs like this are a
:22:18. > :22:27.great way of keeping in touch with our industrial traditions and they
:22:27. > :22:32.remind us of how hard life was for many people not so very long ago.
:22:32. > :22:36.Power ballads keep the One Show's clock turning. Anything with a
:22:36. > :22:42.power grab! We understand that you both love a song as well, you've
:22:42. > :22:47.both appeared in the West End. We know where this is going, Sanjeev
:22:47. > :22:57.in Spamalot and Ayesha in Bombay Dreams. Who is the best singer?
:22:57. > :23:01.Ayesha. And he plays an instrument. I lip sing. I'm lip singing now.
:23:01. > :23:07.Ayesha would you give us a line from something. OK, well I'm six
:23:07. > :23:12.months pregnant so I sing to my baby all the time. Excuses,
:23:12. > :23:20.excuses... This poor child is sung to constantly. You are really going
:23:20. > :23:30.to do this to me? Just a little bit. I've got sunshine on a cloudy day...
:23:30. > :23:31.
:23:31. > :23:36.Beautiful! That is beautiful! The next line is? When it's cold
:23:36. > :23:39.outside, I've got the month of May... We'll put you out your
:23:39. > :23:41.misery and move on. 200,000 of us will be asked by the Office for
:23:41. > :23:45.National Statistics how we are feeling, all part of David
:23:45. > :23:53.Cameron's new happiness indx. You obviously are slightly embarrassed
:23:53. > :23:58.at the moment -- index. 0 out of 10. The PM isn't the first to think
:23:58. > :24:02.like this. In the early '30s, nearly a thousand families were put
:24:02. > :24:05.under the mood microscope. Ruth Goodman finds out what happened.
:24:05. > :24:09.I've come to Peckham in London to see a building that tells a
:24:09. > :24:15.remarkable story from the '30s. It's one that might seem rather
:24:15. > :24:22.sinister, involving hundreds of local families. In a research
:24:22. > :24:27.project known as the Peckham Experiment. In 1935, two doctors
:24:27. > :24:32.wanted to prove a connection between health and happiness.
:24:32. > :24:35.we are trying to do is to find out what health is. Strangery enough,
:24:35. > :24:40.this is the first time that's ever been tackled.
:24:40. > :24:43.Over six years, the doctors raised enough to build a centre where they
:24:43. > :24:49.could observe and measure the long- term well-being of a whole
:24:49. > :24:55.community. The centre had to make people feel good, so only the very
:24:55. > :25:02.best modernist architecture would The two doctors signed up no fewer
:25:02. > :25:08.than 950 working families, so local they had to be within pram-pushing
:25:08. > :25:15.distance. For a shilling a week, the families came here to enjoy
:25:15. > :25:19.sports and leisure facilities. Christopher's family helped with
:25:19. > :25:23.the project. When you get a project like this, full of all sorts of
:25:23. > :25:27.equipment, this wonderful pool next door to us, but nobody tells you
:25:27. > :25:32.what to do, that was the whole secret of it. 83-year-old Pam
:25:32. > :25:35.remembers the place from her childhood. When her family was part
:25:35. > :25:41.of the experiment, she remembers that. How old were you when you
:25:41. > :25:46.first came here? Seven. A long time ago. Absolutely an amazing part of
:25:46. > :25:51.my life actually. Yes? I was absolutely thrilled to be part of
:25:51. > :25:56.it. I had never had any school friends, too shy, and there were so
:25:56. > :26:00.many children here that really created a different atmosphere. It
:26:00. > :26:04.was a Wonderland. This was the big attraction. It was
:26:04. > :26:09.one of the largest pools in London. But all the while, the doctors were
:26:09. > :26:13.watching the families' behaviour. remember asking my mother, why are
:26:13. > :26:19.we going to that place and she said, because the doctors want to study
:26:19. > :26:22.what you are doing so I went round telling people I was a human Guinea
:26:22. > :26:26.pig. The families received no medical treatment but every year
:26:26. > :26:31.they had to take a medical overhaul, when every aspect of their health
:26:31. > :26:34.was examined and recorded for the research. Given the right
:26:34. > :26:38.environment and right conditions, their idea was that health was
:26:38. > :26:42.something which was contagious and given the right kind of society,
:26:42. > :26:47.people will be healthy and they will exude that healthiness. This
:26:47. > :26:51.is what the Peckham thing really tried to get across.
:26:51. > :26:55.The extra healthy living, the centre rented its own 70 acre farm
:26:55. > :26:59.in Kent with a herd of Jersey cows. The milk and fresh fruit and veg
:26:59. > :27:03.was brought to the centre every day and sold in the cafe.
:27:03. > :27:07.It was the forerunner of the organic movement.
:27:07. > :27:12.Health through happiness was what the doctors want and that meant
:27:12. > :27:16.having fun. The families even had their own dance band.
:27:17. > :27:20.By 1950, excitement around the new National Health Service put the
:27:20. > :27:26.emphasis on cure, rather than prevention, and Peckham simply ran
:27:26. > :27:30.out of money. The whole community disappeared. Did it work? The
:27:30. > :27:35.research data was so vast that no- one can say for sure, but the ideas
:27:35. > :27:39.have certainly influenced thinking about patient care.
:27:39. > :27:43.The principles of health through well-being are thriving. The
:27:43. > :27:46.Bromley centre in East London is perhaps the best-known. It's a
:27:46. > :27:49.health centre, a community centre and a place for education all
:27:49. > :27:54.rolled into one. We are about empowering people to
:27:54. > :27:58.look after themselves, not just to come to the doctor to get a
:27:58. > :28:02.prescription or a quick fix, but to see it as a longer journey when you
:28:02. > :28:06.begin to engage around the wider aspects of life, around the arts,
:28:06. > :28:09.training or perhaps engaging in an employment opportunity. For us,
:28:09. > :28:13.health is very much about the whole state of well-being that people
:28:13. > :28:18.feel. The Peckham Experiment that
:28:18. > :28:23.pioneered health through well-being ended 62 years ago. The centre, a
:28:23. > :28:28.listed building, is now luxury apartments. It was decades ahead of
:28:29. > :28:32.its time and I was privileged to be here.
:28:32. > :28:35.Thanks for that, Ruth. About a year ago, we had the Prime Minister on
:28:35. > :28:40.the show and asked him some of the questions from his very own
:28:40. > :28:44.happiness survey. So we'll ask you now, Sanjeev. He average averaged 8,
:28:44. > :28:50.the Prime Minister. Out of ten, how happy did you feel yesterday?
:28:51. > :28:56.Forget today or the day before? About 8. A good day? Yes. Ayesha,
:28:56. > :29:02.to what extent do you feel the things you do with are worthwhile?
:29:02. > :29:07.When you are a pregnant lady, it's all about food. This morning it was
:29:07. > :29:11.pancake day! So my happiness was about 11! Funny you should say that,
:29:11. > :29:17.because Olivia is on an 11 as well at the moment. She's three and
:29:17. > :29:24.wanted to make a pancake before the show, that was sent in from her