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:00:26. > :00:30.with Matt Baker and Alex Jones. Tonight's guest is a father of

:00:30. > :00:37.three, and he spends his days Mocking the Week. He has been

:00:37. > :00:47.described as the most British man that Ardal has ever met. It's Hugh

:00:47. > :00:51.Dennis. : How is that? We were both in a sitcom together called My Hero

:00:51. > :00:56.and we used to drive together in the same car, because we lived near each

:00:56. > :01:00.other. I can't remember. I don't know what I'd done. He described me

:01:00. > :01:03.as the most British person he had ever met. I've never quite known

:01:03. > :01:08.whether to be ashamed of that or delighted. It's a difficult one to

:01:08. > :01:12.know how to take. We thought we would clear it up so we got in touch

:01:12. > :01:17.with Ardal and we asked him to write down what he meant. The result is

:01:17. > :01:22.in. Here we go. He told us, "It's meant to be a compliment. Hugh

:01:22. > :01:28.Dennis, you epitomise a certain type of Britishness. You are modest,

:01:28. > :01:33.practical, fair-minded, you have a well-stocked toolbox." That's

:01:33. > :01:37.apparently. That's certainly true. He'll know that. You do like toast?

:01:37. > :01:44.I love toast. There you are, then. That's it. Does that make me British

:01:44. > :01:49.then? He goes on. There's another sentence, "In another era you would

:01:49. > :01:58.almost certainly been the Viceroy of a small country." There is the

:01:58. > :02:03.proof. How do you like your toast? There was a point where I ate almost

:02:03. > :02:09.nothing but toast. I would eat ten slices. I like it.Now I'm down to

:02:09. > :02:13.two. It's bad for me to eat that much. I sort of stopped. Well, if

:02:13. > :02:17.you at home are doing something typically British, maybe you are

:02:18. > :02:27.doing it right now, or eating toast, 12 slices, send us a picture and

:02:28. > :02:28.

:02:28. > :02:31.we'll see if you can out-British hue. -- Hugh. Hugh has written a

:02:31. > :02:35.book called Britty Britty Bang Bang. More on that later. It's been ten

:02:35. > :02:39.years since using your mobile while driving was banned and in that time

:02:39. > :02:43.over one million drivers have been convicted. It seems to be a law that

:02:43. > :02:52.the public have decided they ignore sometimes, but as Martin Bayfield

:02:52. > :02:56.finds out, using your phone on the road can have deadly consequences.

:02:56. > :03:00.Down there is our researcher, Lucy and for the last 30 minutes she's

:03:00. > :03:04.been counting the number of people using their mobile phones whilst

:03:04. > :03:08.driving. She is not looking for people using hands-free, just those

:03:08. > :03:14.who are talking or texting while holding the phone. How many people

:03:14. > :03:21.have you seen so far? I've had 18 people, either talking or texting on

:03:21. > :03:25.their phone. In the last 30 minutes, 18 people. One woman using a tablet

:03:25. > :03:29.computer to do a bit of typing. That's more than one person breaking

:03:29. > :03:34.the law every two minutes on this stretch of road. And it's a big

:03:34. > :03:38.problem, because using a mobile phone while driving can seriously

:03:38. > :03:40.impair your concentration. When people are talking on their phone

:03:40. > :03:43.the research suggests they are four times more likely to have an

:03:43. > :03:48.accident. However, when they are texting, there is evidence to say

:03:48. > :03:52.that that risk increases to more than 20 times. They are effectively

:03:52. > :03:57.as dangerous as a drink driver. Today, I'm out with South Wales

:03:57. > :04:00.police officers who are on the lookout for offenders. We could have

:04:00. > :04:04.multiple accidents caused by one person who is deciding to have a

:04:04. > :04:07.look at their phone and read a text. So many things people can do with

:04:07. > :04:12.their phones, that they are being distracted. Drivers caught using

:04:12. > :04:17.their mobiles will receive three points on their licence and a �60

:04:17. > :04:21.fine, but if the case goes to court that fine could rise to �1,000 and

:04:21. > :04:25.you can disqualified from driving even. He's still on the phone going

:04:25. > :04:29.around the second round about. not long before we stop drivers

:04:29. > :04:33.breaking the law. He travelled around four round abouts whilst on

:04:33. > :04:39.the phone. Were you aware what you were doing is breaking the law?

:04:39. > :04:43.Yeah. It's work purposes. Is it something you have done quite

:04:43. > :04:48.regularly? I've got the hands-free and I was just looking at the kit

:04:49. > :04:55.for it. You better hurry up and buy it now. Tomorrow.Soon, we see

:04:55. > :05:02.another offender. We'll pull in on the left there. Did you realise what

:05:02. > :05:07.you were do doing is against the law. I pressed it and picked it up.

:05:07. > :05:11.Some people won't accept they've been caught red-handed. The van

:05:11. > :05:21.driver denies using the mobile and says there's not even a battery or

:05:21. > :05:22.

:05:22. > :05:27.SIM card in there. You were fully engaged. He has dismantled the back

:05:27. > :05:31.and the SIM card has disappeared. It is quite a mystery. The driver

:05:31. > :05:35.admits he was talking on the phone. He panicked because he was worried

:05:35. > :05:41.about losing his licence. What is the law recording what you can and

:05:41. > :05:45.can't do behind the wheel? You can't make or receive a call without a

:05:45. > :05:51.hands-free kit and if police think you aren't in control because you

:05:51. > :05:57.are talking you can still be fined. It's illegal to read or send a text,

:05:57. > :06:01.even if you are stopped at a traffic light. The current �60 fine could go

:06:01. > :06:05.up to 90 in the future as the Transport Secretary says, because he

:06:05. > :06:09.wants to crack down on dangerous drivers. Back on the road, the

:06:09. > :06:13.officers are following a particularly careless driver.

:06:13. > :06:21.just cut straight out in front of us. No indication. I don't think he

:06:21. > :06:30.even checked the mirror. He has just pulled in with no warning. You have

:06:30. > :06:34.driven straight passed us, on your mobile. Use of a mobile phone may be

:06:34. > :06:41.the least of his problems. There is a suspicion there may be drugs in

:06:41. > :06:45.the car. They soon find cannabis and he's arrested for possession with

:06:45. > :06:52.intent to supply. Am I surprised by how many people we have stopped

:06:52. > :06:56.today? No, not really, because it's second nature. We have to respond to

:06:56. > :07:00.the phone. Just because so many do it, it doesn't mean it's the right

:07:00. > :07:04.thing. It is of course illegal and it's so, so dangerous. The next time

:07:04. > :07:06.you get in your car, put your phone out of reach or switch it off. Just

:07:06. > :07:11.remarkable statistics. Amazing how many people were seen in that short

:07:11. > :07:15.amount of time. He mentioned it that he didn't put it in the film, 20

:07:15. > :07:19.years ago when he was a police officer, he pulled a guy over for

:07:19. > :07:24.dangerous driving and it was not illegal, but he had his whole lap

:07:24. > :07:29.covered in breakfast serial. He was not only on the phone, but having

:07:29. > :07:38.his breakfast. He was proper multitasking. Was there milk on it?

:07:38. > :07:42.He didn't go into that much detail. I once got, as a student, I went

:07:42. > :07:45.down to Greece on a coach that started at Victoria Station and went

:07:45. > :07:50.through the top of Italy and elsewhere and there were two strange

:07:50. > :07:56.things that happened on that. coach? Yeah. There was a very, very

:07:56. > :08:00.long journey. When we got to the border of jug jug the driver --

:08:00. > :08:07.Yugoslavia the driver appeared to bribe the border guards with

:08:07. > :08:12.cabbage. I never understand that. They were handing them over. This

:08:12. > :08:18.guard is going umm. Everybody was happy about this. Then, on a

:08:18. > :08:23.motorway in Yugoslavia two things - one, they missed the turning, so

:08:23. > :08:26.they reversed back up the motorway. You can't do that. Then, when they

:08:26. > :08:31.swapped the drivers over and there was no limit on how long they were

:08:31. > :08:37.allowed to driver for, but when it happened, one just stood up with his

:08:37. > :08:43.foot still on the pedal like that. While the other driver slipped in

:08:43. > :08:48.around the back and carried on. All done at about 80mph. Fantastic.

:08:48. > :08:52.Obviously, as a student I felt I was completely indistructable and I

:08:52. > :08:55.thought, this is great. Awful, awful. Terrible. We'll have to get

:08:55. > :08:59.Martin to investigate the cabbage story. We are. We thought we could

:08:59. > :09:05.top that, but maybe we can't. Look at this picture that somebody sent

:09:05. > :09:09.in to the Daily Record. This is a man driving while looking at the

:09:09. > :09:17.tablet, but on that tablet he's playing card games, so he's driving

:09:17. > :09:21.a car and playing the card games. Pointless. One or the other. We

:09:21. > :09:25.don't know if it's real. In your book, Britty Britty Bang Bang, you

:09:25. > :09:30.say the clue basically is in the subheading, One Man's Attempt to

:09:30. > :09:35.Understand His Country. You have been here 47 years. What don't you

:09:35. > :09:41.understand about it? Well, there's a lot I don't understand. The

:09:41. > :09:44.inspiration for it really was the Olympic opening ceremony. When the

:09:44. > :09:49.whole of Britain came together. A great moment and you suddenly felt

:09:49. > :09:53.this surge of pride at being British, which displaced and

:09:53. > :09:57.replaced all that stuff about not knowing how to feel about it. Should

:09:57. > :10:05.we be proud or whatever? It was all replaced. We went through the rain

:10:05. > :10:09.and there was the NHS beds and the man w with the flying pad. And I

:10:09. > :10:13.thought, what is that? We've done it all, but what is that? What is

:10:13. > :10:18.happening? I thought I would just try and explain it all to myself.

:10:18. > :10:22.Why we were celebrating all that stuff. And what else there was no

:10:22. > :10:26.celebrate and whether the rest of the world see us the way we see

:10:26. > :10:32.ourselves. You cover a lot. There are loads of topics from gardening,

:10:32. > :10:36.alcohol, animals. Yeah and etiquette. We think of ourselves as

:10:36. > :10:41.being a tremendously polite country. Aren't we? Well, I think we are

:10:41. > :10:46.fairly, but we are not top of the politeness league that is apparently

:10:46. > :10:51.Canada. I think we are just letting them go first, because it would be

:10:51. > :10:55.rude not to. Are you quite content now having researched all of this?

:10:55. > :11:00.There is a lot of factual information in there. It is funny,

:11:00. > :11:06.but are you sitting there now understanding it? What it has done

:11:06. > :11:10.is made me incredibly afeGS nate for Britain. -- affectionate for

:11:10. > :11:15.Britain. Part of my job as a comedian is to point out the faults

:11:15. > :11:21.of things. That is what comedy is, often. Things have to go wrong for

:11:21. > :11:27.things to be funny. Actually, it is, I've decided, a fantastic place to

:11:27. > :11:32.live. We are actually - I do a thing about whether we are democratic and

:11:32. > :11:37.should we be proud of the fact we think we introduced democracy to the

:11:37. > :11:43.rest of the world. We sort of have, but the most democratic countries

:11:43. > :11:46.are Scandinavia. We are Second Division democracy. I love your

:11:46. > :11:51.animal stories. The cat, and Alex can absolutely understand where you

:11:51. > :11:57.are coming from. Are you a cat lover? I am. She died. She was 24.

:11:57. > :12:02.But we used to take her out on a lead and you did too? I bet yours

:12:02. > :12:11.was just a lead? It was an actual lead that we got for the cats.

:12:11. > :12:16.you can have them, but we used a 30-foot washing line. That is the

:12:16. > :12:22.difference. It's brilliant. I think this is right. The parents weren't

:12:22. > :12:25.very British and they don't really mind being mieed excentric. We used

:12:25. > :12:34.to take the cat for walks because they thought it would be unfair for

:12:34. > :12:39.the cat to be too tethered. I feel bad. Our cat came across Dartmoor

:12:39. > :12:43.and it went up Wormside and it's done all of those things.

:12:43. > :12:48.well-travelled cat? Yes. I found it so embarrassing to walk behind at

:12:48. > :12:53.the end as a teenager, that I had to walk about 30 yards behind my

:12:53. > :12:56.parents, so no-one would think I knew them. That meant I had all the

:12:56. > :13:06.comments walking passed them, so I would hear, "Did you see that nutter

:13:06. > :13:08.

:13:08. > :13:11.with the cat?" . ". I absolutely admire the fact they did it. Hugh's

:13:11. > :13:16.book, Britty Britty Bang Bang is out on Thursday. Hugh, it takes a very

:13:16. > :13:25.brave man to bring out a book just a week after Dan Brown has brought out

:13:25. > :13:32.his new one. Are you a fan? I read the Da Vinci Code. I think it's a

:13:32. > :13:39.really good story. I thought you were being sarcastic. The new book

:13:39. > :13:49.is all about Dante's version of hell. The question is, what would be

:13:49. > :14:00.

:14:00. > :14:03.Stuck at a self serving checkout in a supermarket. Where the bags don't

:14:03. > :14:09.work and the items don't weigh what work and the items don't weigh what

:14:09. > :14:16.they are supposed to. That same, same over and over again.

:14:16. > :14:22.I know I'm not going to get help. And way z I want to get my shopping

:14:22. > :14:27.home. I just happen to be an undertaker.

:14:27. > :14:31.What's your vision of hell? I hate numbers. I hate numbers. You want to

:14:31. > :14:34.ring your local store and just ask them if they have whatever and you

:14:34. > :14:40.are given a choice of 30 numbers that you can pick! All the time you

:14:40. > :14:47.are thinking, " This is costing me money." Please hold for the main

:14:47. > :14:53.menu. What's your vision of hell on earth

:14:53. > :14:59.Going back to work and finding that Justin Bieber has taken over!

:14:59. > :15:09.People look at you and think what are you doing? People who don't open

:15:09. > :15:11.

:15:12. > :15:19.doors for people with pushchairs. I can't go in an aquarium. What's

:15:19. > :15:27.your vision of hell? Other people pushing past going aimlessly or

:15:27. > :15:33.wandering. Aimliless gawking. vision of hell is in the morning

:15:33. > :15:40.time when no one says, " Morning" to each other on the streets. Come on

:15:40. > :15:46.and say "morning." It can make someone's day much better.

:15:46. > :15:51.# I'm on the highway to hell # Good morning, indeed. That's great.

:15:51. > :15:58.We have a wildlife man, a history man and a science man, but this is

:15:58. > :16:04.the first time we have needed a hell man! So editor of Christian Magazine

:16:04. > :16:11.reform, Stephen Tomkins has got the job. When people hear the word hell,

:16:11. > :16:15.we think of fire. Men with little horns, devils and pitchforks, but

:16:15. > :16:20.the bye-byele doesn't help us form any of that -- bible doesn't help us

:16:20. > :16:27.form any of that? The bible doesn't seem to be interested in hell. There

:16:27. > :16:35.are 15 mentions with hell compared to six or seven hundred verses about

:16:35. > :16:41.heaven. It doesn't tell us much what it means about the word. It was the

:16:41. > :16:44.the Middle Ages? They had this idea of hell where you got the

:16:44. > :16:48.punishments for different since and you have people being turned into

:16:48. > :16:56.trees or swimming in sewage or having their heads eaten and you

:16:56. > :16:59.have the mythical monsters so it is way beyond anything in the Bible.

:16:59. > :17:03.Being turned into a tree sounds nice.

:17:04. > :17:12.You have to commit suicide. quite so nice.

:17:12. > :17:17.Your dad was a bishop? My dad is a bishop. He is a retired bishop.

:17:17. > :17:24.Did you have discussions around the table of your concept of hell?

:17:24. > :17:32.don't remember it being mentioned at all. No. Not really. I do have, the

:17:32. > :17:39.- I don't really have a vision, but I have this recurring dream when I

:17:39. > :17:44.am on a night bus and I'm only wearing my pants.

:17:44. > :17:50.So grease surrounded by cabbages. Shall we turn up the heat a bit?

:17:50. > :17:57.That's nice. So who are the key people, Stephen, who have helped

:17:57. > :18:06.shape our idea of what hell would look like? Well, Dante wrote the

:18:06. > :18:16.divine comedy and that goes on a tour of heaven and hell and purge

:18:16. > :18:19.purgetry and a few centuries later we have John milton writing about

:18:19. > :18:24.par adise lost. Talk us through this. There are two

:18:24. > :18:28.sides to no piece of work. You have got these people in the reasoned

:18:28. > :18:35.picture of hell -- right-hand picture of hell being punished for

:18:35. > :18:39.their different kinds of sin. In the bottom right-hand corner, you have

:18:39. > :18:44.someone dressed as a pig because they were presumably guilty of lust

:18:44. > :18:49.and other people skating across thin ice and falling down.

:18:49. > :18:54.The ears with the knife going through the middle. It is an

:18:54. > :18:59.entertaining place. Well, there is a lot going on. On to

:18:59. > :19:06.Milton's view? This is like our modern cartoon image of hell which

:19:06. > :19:09.we get from Milton. It is fire and darkness. You have mountains and

:19:09. > :19:15.rocks and rivers, but it is made of fire.

:19:15. > :19:20.And this is painted by John Martin? It is an impression of what Milton's

:19:20. > :19:22.hell looked like. As a fellow of the Royal

:19:22. > :19:30.Geographical Society, Hugh, we were wondering if you knew what the

:19:30. > :19:40.capital of hell is or what the capital is called? Is it Hell City?

:19:40. > :19:43.

:19:43. > :19:47.Hellston? It is called Pandemonium. It means the demons.

:19:48. > :19:54.And we have got a picture right here. This is by Martin? That's

:19:54. > :19:59.right. In Paradise Lost sateen falls from heaven because he rebelled

:19:59. > :20:02.against God and they fall for nine days down to Hell and they think, "

:20:02. > :20:08.We are going to be here for eternity, let's brighten the place

:20:09. > :20:13.up and build a great, big Parliament." And Dante did say it

:20:13. > :20:18.was possible for hell to freeze over? Yes. There's the proof.

:20:18. > :20:25.Here is the bottom pit of hell, you have got sateen eat eating Judas and

:20:25. > :20:31.he is up to his waist in ice. Yeah, it is always a cold day in hell for

:20:31. > :20:37.sateen. Thank you very much.

:20:37. > :20:43.Thank you very much indeed. Mini, Land Rover and Jaguars maybe

:20:43. > :20:48.in foreign hands, but one form of transport remains British.

:20:48. > :20:58.John Sergeant reports. The British manufacturing industry

:20:58. > :21:04.has been heading in one direction recently. Moved production to China.

:21:04. > :21:14.Britain once led the world in bicycle manufacture. One company is

:21:14. > :21:18.

:21:18. > :21:22.bucking the trend. Brompton Bicycles are not folding, but its bikes do.

:21:23. > :21:27.Andrew Ritchie revolutioned bike design. Today the firm makes 35,000

:21:27. > :21:32.bikes a year and for some models, there is a waiting list. But getting

:21:32. > :21:35.started was difficult. I started with some prototypes. This is an

:21:35. > :21:39.early one. I took it is around to a lot of people trying to promote the

:21:39. > :21:45.business and get it off the ground and that led to nothing. P Vp

:21:45. > :21:52.dpe sign was -- the design was rejected by a major British bike

:21:52. > :21:57.manufacturer. I had a good idea and some years later we got into proper

:21:57. > :22:01.production which was about 25 years ago and that's near enough the same

:22:01. > :22:05.as the bikes we're making now. The company makes all the bikes in

:22:05. > :22:09.Britain and won't look East. How important is it it that the

:22:09. > :22:12.bikes are made here? Once you have the knowledge of how we make the

:22:12. > :22:16.things, it is an effort to ship it somewhere else. We are not really

:22:16. > :22:20.big enough. You need a lot of men in white coats to supervise what's

:22:20. > :22:23.going on on the other side of the world. Here, we can respond quickly

:22:23. > :22:28.to people's demands. We make bikes to order. We had to deal with that

:22:28. > :22:33.in the far east, it would be a non-starter for us.

:22:33. > :22:38.Another danger posed by moving abroad, is the theft of special

:22:38. > :22:42.skills and techniques. The company faced this problem after permitting

:22:42. > :22:46.some manufacturing overseas. drawings were out there and they

:22:46. > :22:50.slipped into the hands of some cowboy and the things started

:22:50. > :22:57.popping up over Europe. Luckily we were able to stop that.

:22:57. > :23:01.You took action in the courts and you won? We can fight our corner.

:23:01. > :23:05.Nobody is going to pinch our brand name.

:23:05. > :23:10.Folding bikes caught on because of their design. They can go from being

:23:10. > :23:15.a road worthy machine to a neat, portable package in seconds. It

:23:15. > :23:19.makes them ideal for commuters travelling by train. A lot of

:23:19. > :23:24.engineering goes into the bikes. It takes six hours to make a bike from

:23:24. > :23:30.over 1,000 different parts. And most of those parts are made here in this

:23:30. > :23:34.plant. The engineering skills are traditional ones, overseen by the

:23:34. > :23:37.production manager, Richard Spencer. We are taking a in a raw material

:23:37. > :23:40.which is a steel tube and we are turning that into the frame of the

:23:40. > :23:45.bike. So you are not just assembling,

:23:45. > :23:48.every bit has to be made? Absolutely. We have a guy raising

:23:48. > :23:52.bits of steel tube together and on the way home, he will see somebody

:23:52. > :23:55.riding past on a bike he may have built and assembled. That's the job

:23:55. > :24:00.satisfaction for a lot of people at the company.

:24:00. > :24:05.Part of the success of the bike is the way it stands out. A bit

:24:06. > :24:15.eccentric, very British and so too is the Brompton wormed championship,

:24:16. > :24:16.

:24:16. > :24:20.a folding bike -- world chaip, a folding bike races. Cycling is

:24:20. > :24:23.increasing in the UK and around the world all the time, not only as a

:24:23. > :24:29.sport, but as a means of transport as a means of commuting. As long as

:24:29. > :24:33.that increases, bikes like Brompton are well adapted to that purpose.

:24:33. > :24:36.But what about speed? Compare this wa that, there is no comparison?

:24:36. > :24:43.They go quite fast. Let's have a race!

:24:43. > :24:53.Despite the handicap of building his bike, Michael is off to a flying

:24:53. > :24:57.

:24:57. > :25:04.start. The world champion seems to be

:25:04. > :25:07.catching me! He has more training to do for the

:25:07. > :25:16.rickshaw challenge! Talking of British inventions. You

:25:16. > :25:20.did a lot of research for the book, but you owe your existence to see

:25:20. > :25:25.something? Yes. It is very significant in my family because on

:25:25. > :25:33.my first date my mum and dad went for a picnic and my mother didn't

:25:33. > :25:37.know you had to dilute lime cordial. She gave my dad a glass of undiluted

:25:37. > :25:41.lime cordial? And he drank it? Because he didn't want to ruin the

:25:41. > :25:46.moment. Ah, that's romantic.

:25:46. > :25:50.We thought we would ask you to re-create the moment. We will have a

:25:50. > :25:57.lovely glass of lime cordial here. You will start to appreciate the

:25:57. > :26:03.pain you get in your jaws. How much of it are you dppting to --

:26:03. > :26:07.expecting me to drink? I am not having to impress anyone?

:26:07. > :26:09.There we are. That's not bad. It's not bad. But

:26:10. > :26:15.wait for the tingling to start spreading.

:26:15. > :26:22.I used to think it was a great achievement of my father. I think he

:26:22. > :26:30.did nothing now! We love to laugh at loosers and nobody plays a better

:26:30. > :26:34.loser than Ronnie Barker and you are looking into... I saw himLet's look

:26:34. > :26:44.at the master at work and you can tell us about it afterwards.

:26:44. > :26:47.

:26:47. > :26:49.Have you booked? No. No.

:26:49. > :26:59.LAUGHTER Well, I suppose I can fit you into

:26:59. > :27:25.

:27:25. > :27:30.Could we have a look at the menu, As part of My Hero, your documentary

:27:30. > :27:36.is out soon? Yes. What do you know about Ronnie Barker

:27:36. > :27:39.that you didn't know before? series is for other people and I

:27:39. > :27:45.always loved Ronnie Barker and I loved the fact that he was able to

:27:45. > :27:53.play with words and he used to do the monologues and Ws were replaced

:27:53. > :27:57.with a B. But what I found out about him was what, well what I really --

:27:57. > :28:02.what a really nice guy he was. He came from an non-acting background

:28:02. > :28:10.and desperate to do it, but couldn't initially and went off to try other

:28:10. > :28:16.jobs and then went through Rep. Went into Frost Report and came a really

:28:16. > :28:20.hot property from doing that and then into the Two Ronnies, but it

:28:20. > :28:24.was a thing he loved doing, but he was modest about it.

:28:24. > :28:33.I am looking forward to seeing it. A legend in the world of British

:28:33. > :28:40.comedy and we asked you if you could out-British Hugh here. This is

:28:40. > :28:44.Nicola and she is dressed as the Queen there. P. P. Dave Jones is

:28:44. > :28:50.having a very British afternoon with his cake and everything.