0:00:17 > 0:00:22Hello and welcome to The One Show with Matt Baker.
0:00:22 > 0:00:23And Angellica Bell.
0:00:23 > 0:00:26We've got two of the UK's top criminal barristers here tonight
0:00:26 > 0:00:29who have prosecuted and defended in some high profile cases and now
0:00:29 > 0:00:34they have a new job.
0:00:34 > 0:00:37Working with families whose relatives were tried and hanged
0:00:37 > 0:00:41for historic crimes which they might have been innocent of.
0:00:41 > 0:00:45Our first guest has played a murderer and a murder victim
0:00:45 > 0:00:48but he's recently been showing us his funny side.
0:00:48 > 0:00:56The jury's out on his singing though.
0:00:57 > 0:01:05# I never thought I could feel this way and I have got to say...He has
0:01:05 > 0:01:09to make toast under another woman's Grill. This tastes better than bath
0:01:09 > 0:01:18water. He demands a helicopter to Alton Towers?
0:01:18 > 0:01:26# Everybody deserves a happy ending, but we don't even try.
0:01:26 > 0:01:32I don't think it is that bad. It is Christopher Ecclestone.We have all
0:01:32 > 0:01:39enjoyed you. Looe that was character saying. I have got a good voice, but
0:01:39 > 0:01:46he has not. Have you enjoyed playing that?We laugh along with you. I
0:01:46 > 0:01:51never play roles like that, I am always a misery guts, so it has been
0:01:51 > 0:01:56a joy to play that. All those lines written by the writer, it is about
0:01:56 > 0:02:03the writer.Would you like to do more comedy roles?Yes, I would like
0:02:03 > 0:02:11to keep it out of my personal life and into my working life.
0:02:13 > 0:02:14and into my working life.You come from the north-west of England.
0:02:14 > 0:02:16You come from the north-west of England.
0:02:16 > 0:02:18Not everything is blooming for the property market there,
0:02:18 > 0:02:20because some housing developments just aren't what they seem.
0:02:20 > 0:02:23One story we've been following for a while has seen homes
0:02:23 > 0:02:26being sold that were substandard and in some cases didn't even exist.
0:02:26 > 0:02:30Five years ago dozens of people contacted us to complain about
0:02:30 > 0:02:37property developer from a fresh Start Living.There were flies and
0:02:37 > 0:02:41maggots everywhere and they got in the flat below.This is the open
0:02:41 > 0:02:48sewer pipe which is disgusting.That is disgusting. Karen told us she
0:02:48 > 0:02:51bought a flat which was then converted into a communal kitchen
0:02:51 > 0:02:54for the building without her permission.Where the bed should be
0:02:54 > 0:03:00I have now got bridges.Others told me their apartments had not even
0:03:00 > 0:03:05been built, yet when I confronted the company's director, Charlie
0:03:05 > 0:03:09Cunningham, you was keen to put things right.I am doing everything
0:03:09 > 0:03:16I can at the moment to get it sorted out.But just a few months later it
0:03:16 > 0:03:21went bust, leaving debts of hundreds of thousands of pounds. This is one
0:03:21 > 0:03:25of their old buildings in Manchester and when I was last here everyone
0:03:25 > 0:03:29was told to get out for their own safety. Look at it now. It is still
0:03:29 > 0:03:39a mess. Anita bought a £60,000 one-bedroom flat here from Fresh
0:03:39 > 0:03:43Start Living, just six months before the building was shut down. What
0:03:43 > 0:03:49were you told at the time about what was happening?Nothing, I contacted
0:03:49 > 0:03:56Charlie Cunningham. What response did you get?No reply. After the
0:03:56 > 0:03:59company's demise, a new company, Absolute Living Developments,
0:03:59 > 0:04:05brought the new building. Did that mean with a new owner she could move
0:04:05 > 0:04:11back in? Unfortunately not.My flat is gutted. All my belongings have
0:04:11 > 0:04:19gone.Where have they gone?I don't know. Why did they trespass on my
0:04:19 > 0:04:25property without consulting me?And you lost money?Yes, everything, I
0:04:25 > 0:04:31have worked hard.Others have had the same experience and we have
0:04:31 > 0:04:33discovered that Absolute Living Developments was busy selling new
0:04:33 > 0:04:40buyers off plan apartment in the same development and they were
0:04:40 > 0:04:45selling other flats in a location across the way. They have also gone
0:04:45 > 0:04:52bust, leaving millions of pounds per worth of debt. What is going on?
0:04:52 > 0:04:56Chris paid Absolute Living Developments a £40,000 deposit for a
0:04:56 > 0:05:02flat at the back of a's building, but it has never been built.I am
0:05:02 > 0:05:06left with uncertainty and questions about what has happened.Chris found
0:05:06 > 0:05:11out where his money had gone.I thought I was paying to the
0:05:11 > 0:05:15developers, but as it transpires the money was transferred to another
0:05:15 > 0:05:23company.Other buyers we spoke to also confirm that their money was
0:05:23 > 0:05:30sent to the corporate investment firm DS seven. Its director is none
0:05:30 > 0:05:33other than Mr Charlie Cunningham. Could he really be involved in this
0:05:33 > 0:05:41mess once again? It is not just buyers here who so far have nothing
0:05:41 > 0:05:45to show for their money. More than 300 buy to let investors across Asia
0:05:45 > 0:05:56paid 50% down payment on flats in the UK. Again, the bulk of the money
0:05:56 > 0:06:00went to DS seven.I spent two years waiting for this building to come
0:06:00 > 0:06:07through. I have lost all of my investment.It greatly undermined
0:06:07 > 0:06:12people's confidence in the UK property market as well as the legal
0:06:12 > 0:06:17system.Liquidator Louise Britain is trying to get to the bottom of what
0:06:17 > 0:06:22happened with ALD.There is a lot of money that has come through this
0:06:22 > 0:06:29company.Have you got any idea at all where any of the money has gone?
0:06:29 > 0:06:33That is what we are looking at, where the money came from and where
0:06:33 > 0:06:38the money flowed through any of the companies and banking transactions.
0:06:38 > 0:06:42In September last year, Louise took her findings to the High Court and
0:06:42 > 0:06:46obtained a freezing order on the assets of Mr Cunningham and four
0:06:46 > 0:06:52other parties. The liquidator alleges Mr Cunningham's company DS
0:06:52 > 0:06:58seven received payments of over £40 million from ALD over a two-year
0:06:58 > 0:07:02period and he personally received £1.4 million from companies
0:07:02 > 0:07:07associated with ALD. But does this offer any help to the growing list
0:07:07 > 0:07:13of creditors?The authorities should be looking into this and try to
0:07:13 > 0:07:17untangle this complicated web.I want an answer from Charlie
0:07:17 > 0:07:18Cunningham will stop we are searching for answers.
0:07:18 > 0:07:20searching for answers.
0:07:20 > 0:07:23Thanks, Angela.
0:07:23 > 0:07:25We have had a response from Mr Cunningham.
0:07:25 > 0:07:28He does not deny receiving some money from Absolute Living
0:07:28 > 0:07:30Developments but claims he was owed it and therefore did
0:07:30 > 0:07:31not do anything wrong.
0:07:31 > 0:07:34He vehemently denies all the allegations
0:07:34 > 0:07:36made by the liquidator, blames the downfall of the company
0:07:36 > 0:07:39on the Malaysian directors and says he never had anything to do
0:07:39 > 0:07:41with the running of the business.
0:07:41 > 0:07:45Investigations are still ongoing and there is expected to be
0:07:45 > 0:07:50a trial later this year.
0:07:50 > 0:07:55No doubt Angela will keep us up to date. Christopher, we mentioned at
0:07:55 > 0:08:03the start of the show The A Word. Singing like a bird. Singing like a
0:08:03 > 0:08:14bird, but playing a widow, are you becoming a role model?I have always
0:08:14 > 0:08:20been a role model for mail thanks. It is an unusual story, it is a
0:08:20 > 0:08:24three parter and the first episode is from the man's point of view and
0:08:24 > 0:08:28his truth. The second episode is from the woman's point of view and
0:08:28 > 0:08:34territory. In divorce as there are always at least two. The third
0:08:34 > 0:08:39episode is the resolution of that and it is a custody battle. But it
0:08:39 > 0:08:48is like The A Word. It is a very serious matter and people don't want
0:08:48 > 0:08:52to see a soapbox. So there is a great humour in it, which was
0:08:52 > 0:08:59attractive to me. There are a lot of light moments in it as well which
0:08:59 > 0:09:04helps the pill go down.Let's take a look at the Greg tucking in his
0:09:04 > 0:09:10daughter for the night.I wish you were not going.It will only be a
0:09:10 > 0:09:20couple of hours. Go to sleep. Who are you meeting?Just a friend.Who?
0:09:20 > 0:09:33Miss nosy, an old friend, lie down. I want mummy to come home.I
0:09:33 > 0:09:42promise, I really promise.I love that. It gets you.She is a
0:09:42 > 0:09:51fantastic actress.Tell us more about the character Greg.He is an
0:09:51 > 0:09:54ordinary working man, whatever that means. He has got a small business,
0:09:54 > 0:09:59he is a mechanic, he adores his wife and she decides to leave the
0:09:59 > 0:10:03marriage for a very good reasons which he cannot see. In a sense Greg
0:10:03 > 0:10:11has imprisoned her by not understanding all of her needs. But
0:10:11 > 0:10:16he is so focused on just being a family man that he has failed to see
0:10:16 > 0:10:21her as an individual.Do you think this drama will make people take
0:10:21 > 0:10:25sides? It is celebrating a single father and it is a woman who has
0:10:25 > 0:10:31left the family and her home.It is very provocative role, really. The
0:10:31 > 0:10:38idea to society that a woman would walk out on her children is very
0:10:38 > 0:10:41challenging, but I think the female character is very brave because she
0:10:41 > 0:10:47is so unhappy that she realises if she does not make herself happy she
0:10:47 > 0:10:51will not be able to parent successfully. And at the same time
0:10:51 > 0:10:56she acknowledges the deep love that her husband has for the children and
0:10:56 > 0:11:01vice versa. She does not want to wreck that, but she also wants her
0:11:01 > 0:11:06own autonomy, so she is incredibly heroic. Some people will judge her
0:11:06 > 0:11:11harshly, but that always happens to women, always. The woman always gets
0:11:11 > 0:11:17the rougher deal, not legally, but in terms of society and perceptions.
0:11:17 > 0:11:21We are putting that in front of an audience to challenge them and
0:11:21 > 0:11:28nobody comes a rosy. They both have great areas and both of their grey
0:11:28 > 0:11:33areas have a foreground.We all have them. A very interesting project to
0:11:33 > 0:11:38be involved in if people will be viewing it in that way. It is coming
0:11:38 > 0:11:39to BBC One this spring.
0:11:39 > 0:11:41It is coming to BBC One this spring.
0:11:41 > 0:11:43When videos of screaming children on flights go viral online,
0:11:43 > 0:11:46it's no surprise that a quarter of a million parents say they avoid
0:11:46 > 0:11:50flying with their children so as not to be "parent shamed".
0:11:50 > 0:11:55And you are one of those.I have never been on a flight with my
0:11:55 > 0:11:58children.It is not that bad.
0:11:58 > 0:11:59It is not that bad.
0:11:59 > 0:12:02I'm sure everyone can relate to this whether or not they have children.
0:12:02 > 0:12:07Some people are now calling for child-free flights.
0:12:07 > 0:12:11Here is someone else who has not taken my children on a plane, it is
0:12:11 > 0:12:15my husband Michael.
0:12:15 > 0:12:19What do the Flyers think about the current viral videos of babies
0:12:19 > 0:12:29crying on planes?Here comes a screaming baby.
0:12:32 > 0:12:36screaming baby.For some people this is an absolute nightmare, but why?
0:12:36 > 0:12:41After all, they are just children. Should we expect them to be like
0:12:41 > 0:12:47this? I am a father, I know.I have seen it from both sides where I have
0:12:47 > 0:12:52had passengers with children and they have been asked to move because
0:12:52 > 0:12:55they are not happy with the noise, but you don't what the parents to
0:12:55 > 0:12:59know that they don't like their kids.I find it irritating.Have you
0:12:59 > 0:13:06been on a flight with an upset child?It is irritating, but we have
0:13:06 > 0:13:11grandchildren who do the same.As a parent myself and on flights with
0:13:11 > 0:13:15screaming kids, you feel really guilty and you feel more stress
0:13:15 > 0:13:18because you are trying to quieten your child and they are not having
0:13:18 > 0:13:22any of it.The most annoying people on flights are adults playing the
0:13:22 > 0:13:29fool.Back in 2016 budget Indian airline Indigo introduced a ban
0:13:29 > 0:13:35which stopped anyone under the age of 12 from sitting in certain areas
0:13:35 > 0:13:40on the flight. What could be done about it? Some have suggested
0:13:40 > 0:13:43childfree zones on planes. Would children put up with those
0:13:43 > 0:13:51restrictions?I have been on a flight with friends and we were in
0:13:51 > 0:13:57the seas behind.
0:13:58 > 0:13:58the seas behind. If you start segregating, children will never
0:13:58 > 0:14:04learn.
0:14:04 > 0:14:08learn.Especially a baby screaming, I don't know how well that would go
0:14:08 > 0:14:14down, that might just not be creating the right areas. How do you
0:14:14 > 0:14:19monitor it?What about paying more for your tickets to guarantee no
0:14:19 > 0:14:26children on the fly?What do you think? You would have to have less
0:14:26 > 0:14:34flights for parents and families and I'm not sure if that is fair.
0:14:34 > 0:14:38Parents are the people with the kids. There will always be something
0:14:38 > 0:14:41that frustrates you. Just breathe through it and get on with your
0:14:41 > 0:14:51life.Get your own plain, simple as that? How difficult can that be?
0:14:51 > 0:14:54Both you and your husband have talked about it. You have to take
0:14:54 > 0:15:00your children on a plane.But you have said people have said things to
0:15:00 > 0:15:07you.Yes, they have and it made my blood run cold. There was nearly a
0:15:07 > 0:15:13major incident. I care for my children.
0:15:15 > 0:15:17children.We have a couple of barristers here.
0:15:17 > 0:15:19Sasha Wass and Jeremy Dein are here, you may have
0:15:19 > 0:15:21seen their names in the newspapers.
0:15:21 > 0:15:23Sasha prosecuted Rolf Harris and Jeremy defended Tulisa.
0:15:23 > 0:15:26You are both involved in this new BBC series. It is very, very
0:15:26 > 0:15:30exciting. Jeremy, where does it start, what is the idea with it?
0:15:30 > 0:15:39There are ten death penalty cases. They span the last 125 years. They
0:15:39 > 0:15:42are an investigation into the quality of the evidence, using
0:15:42 > 0:15:47modern-day techniques. There is a family member LinkedIn throughout,
0:15:47 > 0:15:50and they are a fascinating insight to the development of the criminal
0:15:50 > 0:15:55justice process over a very long period of time.It is quite an
0:15:55 > 0:15:58emotive series, you look at ten individual cases but you actually
0:15:58 > 0:16:03have contact with family members of those involved.That is what brings
0:16:03 > 0:16:07it to light, because you have some people, who have known about the
0:16:07 > 0:16:10hanging and the stigma of what happened all their lives, others
0:16:10 > 0:16:14learned much more recently. But even for those who only learned in the
0:16:14 > 0:16:18last few years, they suddenly became emotional, they wanted to vindicate
0:16:18 > 0:16:23their relation. It became a passion, a cause that they had.There is a
0:16:23 > 0:16:29different case every programme, let's talk about the death of
0:16:29 > 0:16:34Frederick Bryant on Monday's programme. From 1935, why did you
0:16:34 > 0:16:40want to reopen this case?Charlotte Bryant was the defendant, she was
0:16:40 > 0:16:43hanged for the poisoning of Frederick Bryant. This is a truly
0:16:43 > 0:16:47fascinating case, not just because it was a poisoning case, but because
0:16:47 > 0:16:54the defendant was a woman, and it involves putting the spotlight on
0:16:54 > 0:16:58how women were perceived, and how in particular women from the lowest
0:16:58 > 0:17:03echelons of society were perceived. So it is a truly fascinating case,
0:17:03 > 0:17:06and it involves many, many facets that I think the public will find
0:17:06 > 0:17:12intriguing.And what evidence were you looking at?This all turned on
0:17:12 > 0:17:15the evidence of arsenic, because the cause of death was arsenic
0:17:15 > 0:17:20poisoning, so we learned a lot about arsenic being a woman's weapon of
0:17:20 > 0:17:24choice in those days, how was detected, how it was administered,
0:17:24 > 0:17:28and we were able to speak to toxicologists, and find out an awful
0:17:28 > 0:17:33lot about life in those days. Arsenic was freely available. Rat
0:17:33 > 0:17:38poison, weedkiller, anyone could get it.Charlotte, the lady you are
0:17:38 > 0:17:42talking about, wrote a last-minute plea for mercy. In this series, it
0:17:42 > 0:17:50is read by her grandson.It is actually really difficult for me.Do
0:17:50 > 0:17:57you want me to read it?Thank you. She says, sir, may I respectfully
0:17:57 > 0:18:03beg for your mercy in my case. The date of my execution has been fixed
0:18:03 > 0:18:09for Wednesday next, July 15. And I am not guilty of the offence I am
0:18:09 > 0:18:13charged with. I humbly beg for the sake of my little children to spare
0:18:13 > 0:18:18my life. I remain, yours respectfully, Charlotte Bryant, and
0:18:18 > 0:18:26that is thought to be the last time that she wrote her name.Dear me.
0:18:26 > 0:18:30You can clearly see this is emotional.That letter says it all,
0:18:30 > 0:18:36it brings home that we were dealing with the death penalty here, and an
0:18:36 > 0:18:40extraordinarily cruel and barbaric concept.So in the event that you
0:18:40 > 0:18:45all agree there has been a miscarriage of justice, Jeremy, what
0:18:45 > 0:18:50happens next? What steps can be taken?Well, I think where it was
0:18:50 > 0:18:55thought that a miscarriage of justice might have occurred, then it
0:18:55 > 0:18:58is open towards Mike Rowe relatives to pursue the situation through the
0:18:58 > 0:19:04courts. It is a very -- it is open to the relatives to pursue the
0:19:04 > 0:19:08situation through the courts. This is a very complex affair, it may be
0:19:08 > 0:19:13possible for some, not for others, but doors are open, though there is
0:19:13 > 0:19:18another aspect.Another aspect was that the programme itself, and the
0:19:18 > 0:19:21process, provided closure for the families, because they saw what the
0:19:21 > 0:19:26evidence was, they saw that it being analysed again. We updated them
0:19:26 > 0:19:28throughout the programme, and whatever the conclusion, at least
0:19:28 > 0:19:33they felt that their relation's case had been properly looked at in
0:19:33 > 0:19:37modern-day times.The emotion they showed was quite extraordinary,
0:19:37 > 0:19:42bearing in mind that many of his relatives didn't know the person
0:19:42 > 0:19:47concerned.You can understand it, though, you can feel it. Fascinating
0:19:47 > 0:19:51programme.I will definitely be watching.
0:19:51 > 0:19:56Murder, Mystery and My Family starts on Monday on BBC One at 9.15am.
0:19:56 > 0:20:00It is also on the iPlayer.
0:20:00 > 0:20:02As one of Downing Street's more colourful characters,
0:20:02 > 0:20:04Labour MP and former Chancellor of the Exchequer Denis Healey
0:20:04 > 0:20:06revelled in the fun of the political game.
0:20:06 > 0:20:08And as his son Tim explains,
0:20:08 > 0:20:13he was always happy to play the fool at home.
0:20:13 > 0:20:18One frame from my mother rang all through my childhood, whenever dad
0:20:18 > 0:20:25was larking around, whether it was on or off screen, the cry was,
0:20:25 > 0:20:31Denis, don't!Denis Healey.As Chancellor of the Exchequer, people
0:20:31 > 0:20:34have referred to him as the best Prime Minister we never had.That's
0:20:34 > 0:20:39what it means, and that is what I'm asking for, that is what I will
0:20:39 > 0:20:47negotiate for!My father was irrepressible. This is a house in
0:20:47 > 0:20:54north London where my sisters Jane, Cress and I spent most of our
0:20:54 > 0:20:57childhood. The owner's kindly letting me in so I can take another
0:20:57 > 0:21:07look. While! The configurations is very much the same, and in some
0:21:07 > 0:21:10strange way, the ambience is the same. Dad had this fantastic last
0:21:10 > 0:21:16for life. One of those things was with any visiting friends of ours,
0:21:16 > 0:21:20you would grab them by the arms, and whirling them around at ferocious
0:21:20 > 0:21:28speed! My mother, in the background, always present. Denis, don't! He was
0:21:28 > 0:21:35just an MP in the early days, a bright young Labour MP, on the up.
0:21:35 > 0:21:38In 1964, Harold Wilson made him Defence Secretary. Ten years after
0:21:38 > 0:21:44that, the became Chancellor of the Exchequer, and the next move was to
0:21:44 > 0:21:4911 Downing St. He did a lot of good stuff, the most important thing was
0:21:49 > 0:21:53keeping the British economy afloat during a very troubled period. He
0:21:53 > 0:21:58did acknowledge there was a streak in himself of what he called brutal
0:21:58 > 0:22:02facetiousness. He was a great photographer, and although he was a
0:22:02 > 0:22:06big, Floros personality, nonetheless I think a lot of quieter tenderness
0:22:06 > 0:22:12comes through. Nice little one here I think we've got of us building a
0:22:12 > 0:22:17snowman in the back garden. He loved the outdoor life, he loved the
0:22:17 > 0:22:22family camping holidays he took us on. We discovered, recently, that
0:22:22 > 0:22:29the paper girl who delivered here was one Sarah Macauley, better known
0:22:29 > 0:22:33today, perhaps, as Sarah Brown, the wife of former Prime Minister,
0:22:33 > 0:22:37Gordon Brown.This is first time I have been this far into the house. I
0:22:37 > 0:22:41would have been doing this paper round at the beginning of secondary
0:22:41 > 0:22:46school, 12 or 13 years old. All of those papers would stack up and on
0:22:46 > 0:22:49Sunday was the super bumper pile, and for your dad, I think he ordered
0:22:49 > 0:22:55every single newspaper available.Do you missed the limelight?Having
0:22:55 > 0:23:02been in the public eye, it never goes away. I am Sarah Macauley in my
0:23:02 > 0:23:08head.Did dad kept at Christmas?I can't believe, having met your dad
0:23:08 > 0:23:13in Morrison years, that he wouldn't have been a great tip.Dad was a
0:23:13 > 0:23:17really keen swimmer and often brought us here, to the lied over.
0:23:17 > 0:23:24He needed to unwind and one of his great joys was swimming. He loved to
0:23:24 > 0:23:30entertain. My sister made a murder mystery film, involving all of us,
0:23:30 > 0:23:32and mum and that threw themselves into their parts with typical
0:23:32 > 0:23:38relish. He really loved television. I can't think of many other major
0:23:38 > 0:23:43political figures who would have coped so well with playing piano in
0:23:43 > 0:23:47a TV special. And he really relished being taken off by the
0:23:47 > 0:23:51Impressionist, Mike Yarwood.Yes, Harold and I had lots of fun in
0:23:51 > 0:23:55those days, even though we hardly had any money. Later, he made me
0:23:55 > 0:23:59Chancellor of the Exchequer, and we had even less money.LAUGHTER
0:23:59 > 0:24:08We used to love walking on hamster teeth, with dad yodelling out his
0:24:08 > 0:24:12favourite theme tune for our jaunts, the entry of the clowns, that famous
0:24:12 > 0:24:19circus theme... The views from Parliament Hill Fields are
0:24:19 > 0:24:22absolutely fantastic. The skyline has changed enormously since I was a
0:24:22 > 0:24:31boy. Dad died at 98, two years short of his hundredth birthday, and I
0:24:31 > 0:24:35think it was his great ambition, actually, even more than to be Prime
0:24:35 > 0:24:41Minister, was to lift to 100. He didn't quite make it, -- live to
0:24:41 > 0:24:45100, but two years on we are there now, and I can say it is happy
0:24:45 > 0:24:49birthday, dad. APPLAUSE
0:24:50 > 0:24:54Thank you for sharing those lovely memories. He has inherited the
0:24:54 > 0:24:57eyebrows, hasn't he? And the voice. It says a lot about him that
0:24:57 > 0:25:00although he must have had an incredibly stressful life at work,
0:25:00 > 0:25:05those are the memories Tim has as a dad at home.Beautiful. What was it
0:25:05 > 0:25:10like growing up to you as a child, Christopher?I was very happy, I had
0:25:10 > 0:25:14that kind of, huge amount of love and laughter in my family. I had a
0:25:14 > 0:25:20great childhood, really.And you have a wonderful little from your
0:25:20 > 0:25:23parents, Shakespeare, the complete works. Shall I tell everyone what
0:25:23 > 0:25:27has been happening over the last two and a half minutes?Don't spoil it,
0:25:27 > 0:25:31we will surprise everyone.That I won't say anything, just take it
0:25:31 > 0:25:39away, whatever you want to do. Trying to get in character. Hail
0:25:39 > 0:25:42Macbeth, Hail to the, fading of Calder.I know I am fain have
0:25:42 > 0:25:50glanced that power of Cawdor? Safe from whence you owe this strange
0:25:50 > 0:25:56intelligent and why you stop our way upon this blasted heath. Speak, I
0:25:56 > 0:26:05charge you.Seek to know no more. Bit of live Shakespeare there.
0:26:05 > 0:26:11Loving your work!You saw it here first!I will never be as good at
0:26:11 > 0:26:17you.I don't know.RSCH, come on. There is good reason we are talking
0:26:17 > 0:26:22about Shakespeare because you are deep in rehearsal for Macbeth.Yes.
0:26:22 > 0:26:26When I was 17 I was in an amateur production of Macbeth, and it toured
0:26:26 > 0:26:29round the North West of England and there was wine, women and song
0:26:29 > 0:26:35involved in it. I had a small part in it and I fell in love with the
0:26:35 > 0:26:38lifestyle, but I fell in love with the play. It is because of that play
0:26:38 > 0:26:43that I became an actor. At 17 I have this ridiculous notion that one day
0:26:43 > 0:26:47I wanted to play Macbeth. It is a true story, it sounds American, but
0:26:47 > 0:26:52it's not.It actually happened, yeah.I decided I will wanted to
0:26:52 > 0:26:57play Macbeth at the Royal Shakespeare Company, and at 504I
0:26:57 > 0:27:05have managed to do it.APPLAUSE When I set off to drama school, my
0:27:05 > 0:27:08mum and dad went to Marks & Spencer's, which is The posh shop,
0:27:08 > 0:27:12as you know, make bought me the complete works of William
0:27:12 > 0:27:16Shakespeare. The woman at the till said, bloody hell, Shakespeare, you
0:27:16 > 0:27:20too must be clever. My dad apparently said, it is not for me,
0:27:20 > 0:27:25it is my son, he is an actor. And my mum took the Mickey because I was
0:27:25 > 0:27:31nowhere near. My dad gave me my love of language. My dad was a man for
0:27:31 > 0:27:34his crosswords. He used to take his dictionary out and he would pick a
0:27:34 > 0:27:38word out, with the word out and say isn't this a marvellous word? He had
0:27:38 > 0:27:42a burning desire for language will stop when he had his dementia,
0:27:42 > 0:27:45sometimes if you got anxious, because I'd played Hamlet and I
0:27:45 > 0:27:48would sometimes do some of the Hamblett things for him in the
0:27:48 > 0:27:52Trafford centre and it would calm him down.He would be so proud of
0:27:52 > 0:27:56you.I am very proud of him, actually, I was very proud of my
0:27:56 > 0:28:09dad.Macbeth opens at the Royal Shakespeare Theatre on 13th March.
0:28:09 > 0:28:12Best of luck with it.Thank you very much full stopone reason why people
0:28:12 > 0:28:15love The A Word is because it is set against the stunning background of
0:28:15 > 0:28:15the Lake District.
0:28:15 > 0:28:17famous for its fast flowing becks and waterfalls.
0:28:17 > 0:28:19Patrick's been to another of our spectacular natural parks,
0:28:19 > 0:28:22The Yorkshire Dales, which is blessed with similar
0:28:25 > 0:28:28Rivers are a constantly changing force of nature. If every British
0:28:28 > 0:28:33river was connected in one single, meandering line, it would circle the
0:28:33 > 0:28:42Earth, twice. The Yorkshire Dales national park has some of the
0:28:42 > 0:28:48fastest flowing rivers in the UK, and many spectacular waterfalls.
0:28:51 > 0:28:58This landscape is unpredictable. And constantly changing. So only the
0:28:58 > 0:29:06most adaptable animals can thrive here. One bird particularly well for
0:29:06 > 0:29:12life in the falls is the dipper. They're dipping and bobbing is
0:29:12 > 0:29:16thought to help them pinpoint underwater prey, and with a meal in
0:29:16 > 0:29:25sight, their unique river skill is revealed. They can swim underwater.
0:29:25 > 0:29:29Within large to preen glands, ten times the size of other birds, they
0:29:29 > 0:29:33can give their feathers the essential waterproofing that they
0:29:33 > 0:29:37need. Highly developed wing muscles help them push against the currents.
0:29:37 > 0:29:42Strong legs and feet provide grip, and an additional eyelid protects
0:29:42 > 0:29:49their eyes whilst underwater. It is these unique adaptations that will
0:29:49 > 0:29:57help the dippers survive the approaching the river. Autumn has
0:29:57 > 0:30:01arrived, and the leaves are on the term. Injecting their burst of
0:30:01 > 0:30:07colour into the river habitat. At this time of year, rain is never far
0:30:07 > 0:30:14away, and the first downfall of the season has begun. Autumn brings with
0:30:14 > 0:30:19it the UK's highest rainfall, causing some rivers in the Dales to
0:30:19 > 0:30:26rise three metres in just 20 minutes.
0:30:26 > 0:30:28minutes. As the river rises, the excess water of the falls comes
0:30:28 > 0:30:34crashing down, and becomes a raging torrent, heading straight for the
0:30:34 > 0:30:41differs. It is such a chant up riverbed, no matter how many times a
0:30:41 > 0:30:45dipper dips and bobs, their visibility is hampered, making it
0:30:45 > 0:30:51extremely difficult to hunt, and even they struggled to battle
0:30:51 > 0:30:56against these new currents, and can only stand and watch, as their meals
0:30:56 > 0:31:00rush quickly passed. This inability to hunt means many dippers won't
0:31:00 > 0:31:06make it past their first year on the river. Luckily, this autumn downfall
0:31:06 > 0:31:09passes quickly, and the river returns to its natural rhythm once
0:31:09 > 0:31:17more. Allowing the dippers to continue doing what they do best.
0:31:17 > 0:31:19Beautiful.Beautiful.
0:31:19 > 0:31:24Thanks to Christopher for joining us.
0:31:24 > 0:31:30Round of applause for Christopher. Tomorrow,